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26th Sep '16 12:17:41 AM Siempie
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* Jasper from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', in her first fight with Amethyst not only [[CurbStompBattle utterly curb-stomps her, without letting her land a single hit]], but also shatters her already fragile self-esteem, by telling her, that she is a failure of a quartz soldier, because she came out small, breaking her spirit to the point, when she stops fighting and takes a final hit without dodging. Actually Jasper gives someone a breaking speech almost every time, that she talks, but most of the time it doesn't work, due to the fact, that victim either too self-confident to listen to her or too clueless to understand, what she is talking about.
--->'''Amethyst:''' Rose said I'm perfect just the way I am.\\
'''Jasper:''' Then she had low standarts.\\

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* Jasper from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', in her first fight with Amethyst not only [[CurbStompBattle utterly curb-stomps her, her without letting her land a single hit]], but also shatters her already fragile self-esteem, self-esteem by telling her, her that she is a failure of a quartz soldier, because she came out small, breaking small. This breaks her spirit to the point, when point where she stops fighting and takes a final hit without dodging. Actually Jasper gives someone a breaking speech almost every time, that time she talks, but most of the time it doesn't work, due to the fact, fact that victim is either too self-confident to listen to her or too clueless to understand, understand what she is talking about.
--->'''Amethyst:'''
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-->'''Amethyst:''' ''(shakily gets up)''
Rose said said... I'm perfect just the perfect... The way I am.am...\\
'''Jasper:''' Then she had low standarts.\\standards.\\
''(After the battle)''\\
'''Steven''': We WON! I can't wait to tell the others!\\
''(Steven and Connie run off laughing)''\\
'''Amethyst''': Oh, good! ''(Beat, she looks down)'' You didn't need me at all...\\

19th Sep '16 11:42:54 PM TechPriest90
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** While both factions have GreyAndGreyMorality, the Stormcloaks generally come off as [[ValuesDissonance somewhat difficult to empathise with]], especially if someone has come through Morrowind and Oblivion. After fighting for a unified Tamriel for the better part of four games, it can be more than a bit hard to side with a bunch of pretentious, racist Nords. [[spoiler: Especially when the leader of the Stormcloaks is revealed to be a ManchurianAgent under Thalmor control.]]
15th Sep '16 7:37:45 PM deltanine
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* ''FanFic/WhatChapter372OfFairyTailShouldHaveBeen'': Erza hurts Kyouka not only physically, but also psychologically. She frequently belittles and taunts her and calls her a "toady" or a "lapdog".
12th Sep '16 4:03:31 AM Freezer
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* In the ''Literature/HomecomingSaga'', Hushidh, a [[TheEmpath "raveler"]] manages to verbally destroy the standing of Rashgallavik, the commander of the army occupying Basillica. She can do this because he was merely standing in for the recently slain Gaballufix, the army's true leader[[note]]Though he took over for the disgraced and exiled Volemak[[/note]], so their loyalty to him was tenuous at best. Her guardian and mentor Raza immediately tells her [[NiceJobBreakingItHero how badly she just screwed up]].
6th Sep '16 6:31:43 PM nombretomado
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* Salieri's confession in ''{{Amadeus}}'' turns into one of these. By the end, with his closing lines about mediocrity, the priest is too shell-shocked to administer the sacrament (though Salieri was obviously unrepentant for his sins, so the conditions for the sacrament were clearly not fulfilled anyway).

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* Salieri's confession in ''{{Amadeus}}'' ''Film/{{Amadeus}}'' turns into one of these. By the end, with his closing lines about mediocrity, the priest is too shell-shocked to administer the sacrament (though Salieri was obviously unrepentant for his sins, so the conditions for the sacrament were clearly not fulfilled anyway).
4th Sep '16 7:40:33 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Franchise/{{Halo}}''[='s=] ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'', the Didact is on the receiving end of one on the tail end of the [[AdvancedAncientHumans Human]]-[[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] War, given by an imprisoned being on the human capital world [[spoiler:claiming to be the last of the Precursors, the very race that created the Forerunners, but who now swear vengeance against them for killing almost all of their creators]]. It thoroughly traumatizes the Didact, breaking apart the beliefs and perceived truths for which he had fought and sacrificed his entire life (with his own children being among the casualties), and he spends the next 10,000 years burying the revelation deep in his memories and refusing to reveal them even to his beloved wife, for fear of their implications.

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* In ''Franchise/{{Halo}}''[='s=] ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'', ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' has plenty of this, courtesy of the Flood Gravemind and [[spoiler:(and its Precursor ancestors]].
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Didact is on the receiving end of one on the tail end of the [[AdvancedAncientHumans Human]]-[[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] War, given by an imprisoned being on the human capital world [[spoiler:claiming to be the last of the Precursors, the very race that created the Forerunners, but who now swear vengeance against them for killing almost all of their creators]]. It thoroughly traumatizes the Didact, breaking apart the beliefs and perceived truths for which he had fought and sacrificed his entire life (with his own children being among the casualties), and he spends the next 10,000 years burying the revelation deep in his memories and refusing to reveal them even to his beloved wife, for fear of their implications.
** This goes UpToEleven in ''Literature/HaloSilentium'', when the Flood turn [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] into a host through which to deliver several {{Breaking Speech}}es once (causing him to go mad from MindRape as a bonus); one to the Forerunners as a whole, expanding on the above-mentioned speech given to the Didact 10,000 years before, and one to the Master Builder, using [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] as a conduit through which the Master Builder's infected wives and children could accuse and taunt him. The latter act effectively turns the Master Builder from a MagnificentBastard extraordinaire into a broken, despairing, nigh-suicidial wreck.



* The Flood Gravemind/[[spoiler:Precursors]] of ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' take particular joy in this tactic. During the Forerunner-Flood War, their secondary tactic was delivering these to key figures in galactic defense. This goes UpToEleven in ''Literature/HaloSilentium'' when they turn [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] into a host through which to deliver several at once, causing him to go mad from MindRape as a bonus; one to Forerunners as a whole, expanding on the speech given to the Didact 10,000 years before, and one to the Master Builder, using [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] as a conduit through which the Master Builder's infected wives and children could accuse and taunt him. The latter act effectively turns the Master Builder from a MagnificentBastard extraordinaire into a broken, despairing, nigh-suicidial wreck.

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* The Flood Gravemind/[[spoiler:Precursors]] of ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' take particular joy in this tactic. During the Forerunner-Flood War, their secondary tactic was delivering these to key Forerunner figures in galactic defense. This goes UpToEleven defense; a few excellent examples of such are noted in ''Literature/HaloSilentium'' when they turn [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] into a host through which to deliver several at once, causing him to go mad from MindRape as a bonus; one to Forerunners as a whole, expanding on the speech given to the Didact 10,000 years before, and one to the Master Builder, using [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] as a conduit through which the Master Builder's infected wives and children could accuse and taunt him. The latter act effectively turns the Master Builder from a MagnificentBastard extraordinaire into a broken, despairing, nigh-suicidial wreck."Literature" section.
4th Sep '16 7:27:21 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Franchise/{{Halo}}''[='s=] ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'', the Didact is on the receiving end of one on the tail end of the [[AdvancedAncientHumans Human]]-[[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] War, given by an imprisoned being on the human capital world [[spoiler:claiming to be the last of the Precursors, the very race that created the Forerunners, but who now swear vengeance against them for killing almost all of their creators]]. It thoroughly traumatizes the Didact, breaking apart the beliefs and perceived truths for which he had fought and sacrificed his entire life (with his own children being among the casualties), and he spends the next 10,000 years burying the revelation deep in his memories and refusing to reveal them even to his beloved wife, for fear of their implications.



* The Didact of ''VideoGame/{{Halo}}'' is on the receiving end of one on the tail end of the Human-Forerunner War, given by an imprisoned being on the human capital world [[spoiler: claiming to be the last of the race which created Forerunners and swearing vengeance against them for killing them all. It thoroughly traumatizes the Didact, breaking apart the beliefs and perceived truths for which he had fought and sacrificed his entire life (including his own children), and he spends the next 10,000 years burying the revelation deep in his memories and refusing to reveal them even to his beloved wife, for fear of their implications.]]
** The Gravemind/[[spoiler:Precursors]] take particular joy in this tactic. During the Forerunner-Flood War, their secondary tactic was delivering these to key figures in galactic defense. UpToEleven when they turn the Didact into a host through which to deliver several at once, causing him to go mad from MindRape as a bonus; one to Forerunners as a whole, expanding on the speech given to the Didact 10,000 years before, and one to the Master Builder, using the Didact as a conduit through which the Master Builder's infected wives and children could accuse and taunt him. The latter act effectively turns the Master Builder from a MagnificentBastard extraordinaire into a broken, despairing, nigh-suicidial wreck.

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* The Didact of ''VideoGame/{{Halo}}'' is on the receiving end of one on the tail end of the Human-Forerunner War, given by an imprisoned being on the human capital world [[spoiler: claiming to be the last of the race which created Forerunners and swearing vengeance against them for killing them all. It thoroughly traumatizes the Didact, breaking apart the beliefs and perceived truths for which he had fought and sacrificed his entire life (including his own children), and he spends the next 10,000 years burying the revelation deep in his memories and refusing to reveal them even to his beloved wife, for fear of their implications.]]
** The
Flood Gravemind/[[spoiler:Precursors]] of ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' take particular joy in this tactic. During the Forerunner-Flood War, their secondary tactic was delivering these to key figures in galactic defense. This goes UpToEleven in ''Literature/HaloSilentium'' when they turn the Didact [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] into a host through which to deliver several at once, causing him to go mad from MindRape as a bonus; one to Forerunners as a whole, expanding on the speech given to the Didact 10,000 years before, and one to the Master Builder, using the Didact [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] as a conduit through which the Master Builder's infected wives and children could accuse and taunt him. The latter act effectively turns the Master Builder from a MagnificentBastard extraordinaire into a broken, despairing, nigh-suicidial wreck.
2nd Sep '16 4:50:44 PM nmn3r3
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* [[spoiler: Hans]] in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' tries this twice. The first one is given to [[{{Determinator}} a dying Anna]], and has less of an effect. [[spoiler: Elsa, on the other hand, goes into a HeroicBSOD]]

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* Pitch Black in ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians'' is a master of these. Given his ability to know what people are afraid of, it would be weirder if he ''couldn't'' pull one of these off. His speech to Jack, which is about how Jack will always be alone because he will always ruin any positive connection he makes by making a mess of things, pretty much kills Jack's will to fight him. It would've successfully taken him out of the picture if Pitch hadn't fallen victim to BondVillainStupidity.
* [[spoiler: Hans]] in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' tries this twice. The first one is given to [[{{Determinator}} a dying Anna]], telling her that she was only ever a means to an end to him and has less of an effect. [[spoiler: [[DidYouActuallyBelieve what a fool she was for trusting him]]. It leaves her depressed for a while, but Anna eventually realizes that there are people who care about her. [[spoiler:His speech to Elsa, on the other hand, goes into a HeroicBSOD]]effectively leaves her suicidal, because being told that her sister was dead due to her own actions is her worst fear come true. Luckily, Anna wasn't dead, and saved Elsa from Hans' attempt to decapitate her.]]
31st Aug '16 6:55:01 PM OrKuunArQenByundis
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* The Didact of ''VideoGame/{{Halo}}'' is on the receiving end of one on the tail end of the Human-Forerunner War, given by an imprisoned being on the human capital world [[spoiler: claiming to be the last of the race which created Forerunners and swearing vengeance against them for killing them all. It thoroughly traumatizes the Didact, breaking apart the beliefs and perceived truths for which he had fought and sacrificed his entire life (including his own children), and he spends the next 10,000 years burying the revelation deep in his memories and refusing to reveal them even to his beloved wife, for fear of their implications.]]
** The Gravemind/[[spoiler:Precursors]] take particular joy in this tactic. During the Forerunner-Flood War, their secondary tactic was delivering these to key figures in galactic defense. UpToEleven when they turn the Didact into a host through which to deliver several at once, causing him to go mad from MindRape as a bonus; one to Forerunners as a whole, expanding on the speech given to the Didact 10,000 years before, and one to the Master Builder, using the Didact as a conduit through which the Master Builder's infected wives and children could accuse and taunt him. The latter act effectively turns the Master Builder from a MagnificentBastard extraordinaire into a broken, despairing, nigh-suicidial wreck.
30th Aug '16 1:53:18 PM Yib
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* Jasper from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', in her first fight with Amethyst not only [[CurbStompBattle utterly curb-stomps her, without letting her land a single hit]], but also shatters her already fragile self-esteem, by telling her, that she is a failure of a quartz soldier, because she came out small, breaking her spirit to the point, when she stops fighting and takes a final hit without dodging. Actually Jasper gives someone a breaking speech almost every time, that she talks, but most of the time it doesn't work, due to the fact, that victim either self-confident to listen to her or to clueless to understand, what she is talking about.

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* Jasper from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', in her first fight with Amethyst not only [[CurbStompBattle utterly curb-stomps her, without letting her land a single hit]], but also shatters her already fragile self-esteem, by telling her, that she is a failure of a quartz soldier, because she came out small, breaking her spirit to the point, when she stops fighting and takes a final hit without dodging. Actually Jasper gives someone a breaking speech almost every time, that she talks, but most of the time it doesn't work, due to the fact, that victim either too self-confident to listen to her or to too clueless to understand, what she is talking about.
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