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15th Aug '16 7:36:51 AM Morgenthaler
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In a way, Brain Drain is the opposite of ThePeterPrinciple. However these are opposites that happily coexist and help each other making life a living hell for those who remain: [[BrainDrain The talented move on elsewhere]], while the less talented [[ThePeterPrinciple gets promoted to positions they are incompetent for]] - which can easily lead to becoming a PointyHairedBoss.

In individual cases, ThePeterPrinciple can also be used to subvert BrainDrain - as it turns out that the new guy wasn't so talented after all.

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In a way, Brain Drain is the opposite of ThePeterPrinciple. However these are opposites that happily coexist and help each other making life a living hell for those who remain: [[BrainDrain The talented move on elsewhere]], elsewhere, while the less talented [[ThePeterPrinciple gets promoted to positions they are incompetent for]] - which can easily lead to becoming a PointyHairedBoss.

In individual cases, ThePeterPrinciple can also be used to subvert BrainDrain Brain Drain - as it turns out that the new guy wasn't so talented after all.



* During a given countries "golden age" it has often been common for adventurous immigrants to swarm over there to find opportunities. For instance, several conquerors have had scholars and artists crowding their courts simply because the prestige attracts. This naturally causes a BrainDrain in other countries.

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* During a given countries "golden age" it has often been common for adventurous immigrants to swarm over there to find opportunities. For instance, several conquerors have had scholars and artists crowding their courts simply because the prestige attracts. This naturally causes a BrainDrain Brain Drain in other countries.
15th Aug '16 7:35:50 AM Morgenthaler
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12th Jul '16 5:34:34 PM nombretomado
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** Germany was subject to this in ''spades'' before and after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, thanks to the fact that a good number of technical, scientific, and financial experts were Jews. AlbertEinstein, [[QuantumPhysics Enrico Fermi]], [[ILoveNuclearPower Niels Bohr]], and [[SpaceRace Wernher von Braun]], just to name a few, all emigrated to the Western powers before or after the war. While those who fled before the war did so on their own initiative to escape the Nazis, researchers and other talented individuals who were taken out by the Allies after the war (with or without their consent) were removed because the Allies had no interest (at least initially) in rebuilding Germany's devastated industrial base.

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** Germany was subject to this in ''spades'' before and after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, thanks to the fact that a good number of technical, scientific, and financial experts were Jews. AlbertEinstein, UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein, [[QuantumPhysics Enrico Fermi]], [[ILoveNuclearPower Niels Bohr]], and [[SpaceRace Wernher von Braun]], just to name a few, all emigrated to the Western powers before or after the war. While those who fled before the war did so on their own initiative to escape the Nazis, researchers and other talented individuals who were taken out by the Allies after the war (with or without their consent) were removed because the Allies had no interest (at least initially) in rebuilding Germany's devastated industrial base.
23rd Jun '16 12:27:27 AM Doug86
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** Germany was subject to this in ''spades'' before and after UsefulNotes/WorldWar2, thanks to the fact that a good number of technical, scientific, and financial experts were Jews. AlbertEinstein, [[QuantumPhysics Enrico Fermi]], [[ILoveNuclearPower Niels Bohr]], and [[SpaceRace Wernher von Braun]], just to name a few, all emigrated to the Western powers before or after the war. While those who fled before the war did so on their own initiative to escape the Nazis, researchers and other talented individuals who were taken out by the Allies after the war (with or without their consent) were removed because the Allies had no interest (at least initially) in rebuilding Germany's devastated industrial base.

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** Germany was subject to this in ''spades'' before and after UsefulNotes/WorldWar2, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, thanks to the fact that a good number of technical, scientific, and financial experts were Jews. AlbertEinstein, [[QuantumPhysics Enrico Fermi]], [[ILoveNuclearPower Niels Bohr]], and [[SpaceRace Wernher von Braun]], just to name a few, all emigrated to the Western powers before or after the war. While those who fled before the war did so on their own initiative to escape the Nazis, researchers and other talented individuals who were taken out by the Allies after the war (with or without their consent) were removed because the Allies had no interest (at least initially) in rebuilding Germany's devastated industrial base.
28th May '16 9:58:56 AM nombretomado
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* In the InteractiveFiction game ''The Lost Spellmaker'', all of the spellmakers (people who, well... [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin make spells]], for the entertainment of the masses) from the PC's town and the other villages nearby are mysteriously disappearing. It turns out they're being stolen by the nearby city of Plantasitoy. Given that Plantasitoy is [[spoiler:an anagram for PlayStation]], one could easily read this as a metaphor.

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* In the InteractiveFiction game ''The Lost Spellmaker'', all of the spellmakers (people who, well... [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin make spells]], for the entertainment of the masses) from the PC's town and the other villages nearby are mysteriously disappearing. It turns out they're being stolen by the nearby city of Plantasitoy. Given that Plantasitoy is [[spoiler:an anagram for PlayStation]], UsefulNotes/PlayStation]], one could easily read this as a metaphor.
23rd Apr '16 6:07:31 PM MsChibi
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* UsefulNotes/{{Afghanistan}} [[http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/afghani.asp experienced this when it fell under the rule of the Taliban]]. Women were driven out of the workforce and forced to depend on husbands and male relatives (or else driven to begging or prostitution in order to survive). This particularly impacted healthcare; the male doctors that were left were overworked, many relief workers had left the country, and women were often forbidden from (or at least uncomfortable with) being treated by a male doctor.
23rd Mar '16 1:43:42 PM nielas
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* On ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' this is one of the many issues facing Star City after it goes into an economic tailspin. Many of its businesses close down or relocate to other cities and the city's best and brightest leave for greener pastures. The people who stay behind are either rich enough not to be bothered by this or too poor to leave. This hits the police department especially hard since the events of the series caused it to have an extremely high casualty rate so police officers already had a strong incentive to find employment somewhere else. In one instance and entire elite task force goes rogue because they are desperate to leave the city but cannot afford to pay off their mortgages.
4th Jan '16 10:10:43 PM jormis29
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* By the same principle, countries going through particularly bad times experience an exodus of the talented to anywhere else, which naturally makes ending those bad times more difficult. This situation is often seen in developing nations like India where NRIs (Non-Residential-Indians) are regarded with awe and envy in India for being TheOneWhoMadeItOut and the Indian government and society is trying to encourage talented people to invest and work there.

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* By the same principle, countries going through particularly bad times experience an exodus of the talented to anywhere else, which naturally makes ending those bad times more difficult. This situation is often seen in developing nations like India where NRIs [=NRIs=] (Non-Residential-Indians) are regarded with awe and envy in India for being TheOneWhoMadeItOut and the Indian government and society is trying to encourage talented people to invest and work there.
4th Jan '16 9:25:04 PM FordPrefect
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** Though [[http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-09-10 one strip]] depicts them doing it to someone else ''just'' to saddle them with an [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption intentional black-spot project]].
26th Sep '15 1:47:41 PM JulianLapostat
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** By the same principle, countries going through particularly bad times experience an exodus of the talented to anywhere else, which naturally makes ending those bad times more difficult. Perhaps the most famous example of this phenomenon is the BerlinWall, which was in large part erected to prevent skilled people from leaving East Germany (and instead had the unintended effect of keeping precisely those people in East Germany who were unskilled at stealth/tunneling/etc.).
*** All of the Communist countries of the Eastern Bloc experienced lots of brain drain before measures were taken by the Soviet Union and its puppet states to keep people from emigrating to the West.
*** After the Berlin Wall came down, East Germany saw a huge exodus of skilled Germans moving from the Eastern states to the rest of Germany. As a result, Eastern Germany is still considerably far behind the rest of the country twenty years later.

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** * By the same principle, countries going through particularly bad times experience an exodus of the talented to anywhere else, which naturally makes ending those bad times more difficult. Perhaps This situation is often seen in developing nations like India where NRIs (Non-Residential-Indians) are regarded with awe and envy in India for being TheOneWhoMadeItOut and the Indian government and society is trying to encourage talented people to invest and work there.
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most famous example of this phenomenon is the BerlinWall, which was in large part erected to prevent skilled people from leaving East Germany (and instead had the unintended effect of keeping precisely those people in Germany. Between 1952-1961, nearly ''3.5 million'' Germans left East Germany who were unskilled at stealth/tunneling/etc.).
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for West Germany. They did this by simply walking across. After the Communist countries of wall, the Eastern Bloc experienced lots of brain drain before measures were taken by numbers fell. It must be noted that the Soviet Union and its puppet states to keep people vast majority of emigres from emigrating East Germany to West Germany left by official government channels and the West.
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escapees constituted only a small part, albeit the most visible one.
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After the Berlin Wall came down, East Germany saw a huge exodus of skilled Germans moving from the Eastern states to the rest of Germany. As a result, Eastern Germany is still considerably far behind the rest of the country twenty years later.


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** Artistically, many film-makers of the Weimar Era Creator/FritzLang, Creator/OttoPreminger, Creator/BillyWilder and many others left for Hollywood upon the rise of the Nazism, as did Creator/MarleneDietrich.
* Brain Drain was an issue with many Communist nations of the Eastern Bloc, and measures were taken by the Soviet Union and its puppet states to keep people from emigrating to the West. Mostly they did this by making it hard and prolonging the immigration process considerably. In the occassions when permits were given, it was usually for some corrupt measure. This can be seen in the film ''Moonlighting'' where Polish labourers are sent to London to touch up a property owned by a Polish Communist CorruptPolitician.
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