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7th Apr '18 5:36:31 PM nombretomado
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[[IThoughtItMeant Not to be confused with]] StupidityInducingAttack, which is about making an individual person dumber.

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28th Feb '18 2:13:00 PM RedScharlach
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* On ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' this is one of the many issues facing Star City after it goes into an economic tailspin. Many of its businesses close down or relocate to other cities and the city's best and brightest leave for greener pastures. The people who stay behind are either rich enough not to be bothered by this or too poor to leave. This hits the police department especially hard since the events of the series caused it to have an extremely high casualty rate so police officers already had a strong incentive to find employment somewhere else. In one instance and entire elite task force goes rogue because they are desperate to leave the city but cannot afford to pay off their mortgages.

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* On ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' this is one of the many issues facing Star City after it goes into an economic tailspin. Many of its businesses close down or relocate to other cities and the city's best and brightest leave for greener pastures. The people who stay behind are either rich enough not to be bothered by this or too poor to leave. This hits the police department especially hard since the events of the series caused it to have an extremely high casualty rate so police officers already had a strong incentive to find employment somewhere else. In one instance and instance, an entire elite task force goes rogue because they are desperate to leave the city but cannot afford to pay off their mortgages.



* In ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', [[WrongSideOfTheTracks Griffinstone]] is implied to be suffering from this problem by the time of ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone "The Lost Treasure Of Griffinstone"]], if Gilda's peddling of [[LethalChef griffinscones]] for the sole reason of wanting to earn enough bits to get out of there is any indication - compare that with the last seen status of [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E24MysteryOnTheFriendshipExpress Gustave Le Grande]], who is shown to be a SupremeChef and was far outside Griffinstone in his appearence, and the flashbacks in the stories told by Twilight and Grandpa Gruff of [[VestigialEmpire the glory that Griffinstone once was]].

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* In ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', [[WrongSideOfTheTracks Griffinstone]] is implied to be suffering from this problem by the time of ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone "The Lost Treasure Of Griffinstone"]], if Gilda's peddling of [[LethalChef griffinscones]] for the sole reason of wanting to earn enough bits to get out of there is any indication - compare that with the last seen status of [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E24MysteryOnTheFriendshipExpress Gustave Le Grande]], who is shown to be a SupremeChef and was far outside Griffinstone in his appearence, appearance, and the flashbacks in the stories told by Twilight and Grandpa Gruff of [[VestigialEmpire the glory that Griffinstone once was]].



* Brain Drain was an issue with many Communist nations of the Eastern Bloc, and measures were taken by the Soviet Union and its puppet states to keep people from emigrating to the West. Mostly they did this by making it hard and prolonging the immigration process considerably. In the occassions when permits were given, it was usually for some corrupt measure. This can be seen in the film ''Moonlighting'' where Polish labourers are sent to London to touch up a property owned by a Polish Communist CorruptPolitician.

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* Brain Drain was an issue with many Communist nations of the Eastern Bloc, and measures were taken by the Soviet Union and its puppet states to keep people from emigrating to the West. Mostly they did this by making it hard and prolonging the immigration process considerably. In On the occassions occasions when permits were given, it was usually for some corrupt measure.reason. This can be seen in the film ''Moonlighting'' where Polish labourers are sent to London to touch up a property owned by a Polish Communist CorruptPolitician.
26th Jan '18 5:48:28 AM Cryoclaste
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* [[StiffUpperLip Knights of the Golden Rooster]] in ''[[ForgottenRealms Raven's Bluff]]'' often complain that other knightly orders tend to "take their best". Or, looking from the other end, being an "entry-level" order for common people and adventurers and a route to higher responsibilities is one of the Roosters' main roles.

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* [[StiffUpperLip Knights of the Golden Rooster]] in ''[[ForgottenRealms ''[[TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms Raven's Bluff]]'' often complain that other knightly orders tend to "take their best". Or, looking from the other end, being an "entry-level" order for common people and adventurers and a route to higher responsibilities is one of the Roosters' main roles.
17th Jun '17 1:44:35 PM nombretomado
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* The most famous example of this phenomenon is the BerlinWall, which was in large part erected to prevent skilled people from leaving East Germany. Between 1952-1961, nearly ''3.5 million'' Germans left East Germany for West Germany (about 20% of the East German population). They did this by simply walking across - Berlin at the time was legally governed under the Four Power Agreement (France, Soviet Union, United Kingdom, United States) rather than either German government. After the wall, the numbers fell dramatically. It must be noted that the vast majority of emigres from East Germany to West Germany left by official government channels and the escapees constituted only a small part, albeit the most visible one.

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* The most famous example of this phenomenon is the BerlinWall, UsefulNotes/BerlinWall, which was in large part erected to prevent skilled people from leaving East Germany. Between 1952-1961, nearly ''3.5 million'' Germans left East Germany for West Germany (about 20% of the East German population). They did this by simply walking across - Berlin at the time was legally governed under the Four Power Agreement (France, Soviet Union, United Kingdom, United States) rather than either German government. After the wall, the numbers fell dramatically. It must be noted that the vast majority of emigres from East Germany to West Germany left by official government channels and the escapees constituted only a small part, albeit the most visible one.
16th Apr '17 12:59:25 PM nombretomado
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** Germany was subject to this in ''spades'' before and after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, thanks to the fact that a good number of technical, scientific, and financial experts were Jews. UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein, [[QuantumPhysics Enrico Fermi]], [[ILoveNuclearPower Niels Bohr]], and [[SpaceRace Wernher von Braun]], just to name a few, all emigrated to the Western powers before or after the war. While those who fled before the war did so on their own initiative to escape the Nazis, researchers and other talented individuals who were taken out by the Allies after the war (with or without their consent) were removed because the Allies had no interest (at least initially) in rebuilding Germany's devastated industrial base.

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** Germany was subject to this in ''spades'' before and after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, thanks to the fact that a good number of technical, scientific, and financial experts were Jews. UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein, [[QuantumPhysics Enrico Fermi]], [[ILoveNuclearPower Niels Bohr]], and [[SpaceRace [[UsefulNotes/TheSpaceRace Wernher von Braun]], just to name a few, all emigrated to the Western powers before or after the war. While those who fled before the war did so on their own initiative to escape the Nazis, researchers and other talented individuals who were taken out by the Allies after the war (with or without their consent) were removed because the Allies had no interest (at least initially) in rebuilding Germany's devastated industrial base.
9th Jan '17 7:49:23 AM megarockman
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* The most famous example of this phenomenon is the BerlinWall, which was in large part erected to prevent skilled people from leaving East Germany. Between 1952-1961, nearly ''3.5 million'' Germans left East Germany for West Germany. They did this by simply walking across. After the wall, the numbers fell. It must be noted that the vast majority of emigres from East Germany to West Germany left by official government channels and the escapees constituted only a small part, albeit the most visible one.

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* The most famous example of this phenomenon is the BerlinWall, which was in large part erected to prevent skilled people from leaving East Germany. Between 1952-1961, nearly ''3.5 million'' Germans left East Germany for West Germany. Germany (about 20% of the East German population). They did this by simply walking across. across - Berlin at the time was legally governed under the Four Power Agreement (France, Soviet Union, United Kingdom, United States) rather than either German government. After the wall, the numbers fell.fell dramatically. It must be noted that the vast majority of emigres from East Germany to West Germany left by official government channels and the escapees constituted only a small part, albeit the most visible one.
28th Nov '16 6:17:56 PM chc232323
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* The United States brain-drains excellent physicians from around the world to fill its residency slots. American doctors are given priority for selecting residents, but very high-scoring foreign doctors are frequently taken, to the tune of approximately 3,000 foreign-born chosen for new interns in 2016 alone.
* Private military contractors are fond of offering large pay increases to service members in elite, special-operations capable units or with rare, difficult skill sets. They don't pay much for the DumbMuscle, but elite soldiers are rarely that.
15th Aug '16 7:36:51 AM Morgenthaler
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In a way, Brain Drain is the opposite of ThePeterPrinciple. However these are opposites that happily coexist and help each other making life a living hell for those who remain: [[BrainDrain The talented move on elsewhere]], while the less talented [[ThePeterPrinciple gets promoted to positions they are incompetent for]] - which can easily lead to becoming a PointyHairedBoss.

In individual cases, ThePeterPrinciple can also be used to subvert BrainDrain - as it turns out that the new guy wasn't so talented after all.

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In a way, Brain Drain is the opposite of ThePeterPrinciple. However these are opposites that happily coexist and help each other making life a living hell for those who remain: [[BrainDrain The talented move on elsewhere]], elsewhere, while the less talented [[ThePeterPrinciple gets promoted to positions they are incompetent for]] - which can easily lead to becoming a PointyHairedBoss.

In individual cases, ThePeterPrinciple can also be used to subvert BrainDrain Brain Drain - as it turns out that the new guy wasn't so talented after all.



* During a given countries "golden age" it has often been common for adventurous immigrants to swarm over there to find opportunities. For instance, several conquerors have had scholars and artists crowding their courts simply because the prestige attracts. This naturally causes a BrainDrain in other countries.

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* During a given countries "golden age" it has often been common for adventurous immigrants to swarm over there to find opportunities. For instance, several conquerors have had scholars and artists crowding their courts simply because the prestige attracts. This naturally causes a BrainDrain Brain Drain in other countries.
15th Aug '16 7:35:50 AM Morgenthaler
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12th Jul '16 5:34:34 PM nombretomado
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** Germany was subject to this in ''spades'' before and after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, thanks to the fact that a good number of technical, scientific, and financial experts were Jews. AlbertEinstein, [[QuantumPhysics Enrico Fermi]], [[ILoveNuclearPower Niels Bohr]], and [[SpaceRace Wernher von Braun]], just to name a few, all emigrated to the Western powers before or after the war. While those who fled before the war did so on their own initiative to escape the Nazis, researchers and other talented individuals who were taken out by the Allies after the war (with or without their consent) were removed because the Allies had no interest (at least initially) in rebuilding Germany's devastated industrial base.

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** Germany was subject to this in ''spades'' before and after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, thanks to the fact that a good number of technical, scientific, and financial experts were Jews. AlbertEinstein, UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein, [[QuantumPhysics Enrico Fermi]], [[ILoveNuclearPower Niels Bohr]], and [[SpaceRace Wernher von Braun]], just to name a few, all emigrated to the Western powers before or after the war. While those who fled before the war did so on their own initiative to escape the Nazis, researchers and other talented individuals who were taken out by the Allies after the war (with or without their consent) were removed because the Allies had no interest (at least initially) in rebuilding Germany's devastated industrial base.
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