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12th Jul '16 7:08:11 AM godzillavkk
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And although they are often likely to commit acts we would see as horrific, some are unusually [[HarmlessVillain benign]]. Either way they tend to act as if nothing were the matter. Because in their world/mind, [[ItsWhatIDo that's just what they do]]. This trope is one of the trickier to pull off well, because MostWritersAreHuman, and it's often hard to portray alien ''truly'' foreign. Because of this, It's not uncommon for audience members to[[MisaimedFandom label]] these characters as [[DesignatedHero Designated Heroes]] or [[DesignatedVillain villains]] due to human audiences often [[HumanityIsYoung lacking the experience]] or [[HumansAreMorons knowledge]] that these fictional characters have. Audiences must remember that these characters are meant to be Morally Ambiguous.

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And although they are often likely to commit acts we would see as horrific, some are unusually [[HarmlessVillain benign]]. Either way they tend to act as if nothing were the matter. Because in their world/mind, [[ItsWhatIDo that's just what they do]]. This trope is one of the trickier to pull off well, because MostWritersAreHuman, and it's often hard to portray alien ''truly'' foreign. Because of this, It's not uncommon for audience members to[[MisaimedFandom to [[MisaimedFandom label]] these characters as [[DesignatedHero Designated Heroes]] or [[DesignatedVillain villains]] due to human audiences often [[HumanityIsYoung lacking the experience]] or [[HumansAreMorons knowledge]] that these fictional characters have. Audiences must remember that these characters are meant to be Morally Ambiguous.
12th Jul '16 7:07:50 AM godzillavkk
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And although they are often likely to commit acts we would see as horrific, some are unusually [[HarmlessVillain benign]]. Either way they tend to act as if nothing were the matter. Because in their world/mind, [[ItsWhatIDo that's just what they do]]. This trope is one of the trickier to pull off well, because MostWritersAreHuman, and it's often hard to portray alien ''truly'' foreign.

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And although they are often likely to commit acts we would see as horrific, some are unusually [[HarmlessVillain benign]]. Either way they tend to act as if nothing were the matter. Because in their world/mind, [[ItsWhatIDo that's just what they do]]. This trope is one of the trickier to pull off well, because MostWritersAreHuman, and it's often hard to portray alien ''truly'' foreign.
foreign. Because of this, It's not uncommon for audience members to[[MisaimedFandom label]] these characters as [[DesignatedHero Designated Heroes]] or [[DesignatedVillain villains]] due to human audiences often [[HumanityIsYoung lacking the experience]] or [[HumansAreMorons knowledge]] that these fictional characters have. Audiences must remember that these characters are meant to be Morally Ambiguous.
30th Mar '16 6:52:18 PM Eievie
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->''"For one of dragon's blood to not take up weapons, to not prepare night and day to slaughter any enemies that would come against them – it is unthinkable. It is – one who does such a thing, who believes the world will not be dangerous, will not strive to kill him... That is what we call insane."''

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->''"For one of dragon's blood to not take up weapons, to not prepare night and day to slaughter any enemies that would come against them – it them--it is unthinkable. It is – one is--one who does such a thing, who believes the world will not be dangerous, will not strive to kill him... him… That is what we call insane."''



The strangest of these characters are those who espouse Blue And Orange Morality. These characters have a moral framework that is so utterly alien and foreign to human experience that we can't peg them as good or evil. They aren't a ChaoticNeutral [[TheUnfettered Unfettered]], though they may seem to act [[CloudCuckooLander terrifyingly randomly;]] nor are they necessarily a LawfulNeutral [[TheFettered Fettered]], because our and their understanding of 'law' as a concept may not even be equivalent. There might be a [[InsaneTrollLogic logic]] behind their actions, it's just that they operate with entirely different sets of values and premises with which to draw their conclusions. It's also worth noting that such cultures are just as likely to be something we'd find appalling, as they are to be something we'd find benign and/or weird. [[HumansThroughAlienEyes They may also find us appalling, benign, or weird even if we don't see them that way.]]

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The strangest of these characters are those who espouse Blue And Orange Morality. These characters have a moral framework that is so utterly alien and foreign to human experience that we can't peg them as good "good" or evil. "evil". They aren't a ChaoticNeutral [[TheUnfettered Unfettered]], though they may seem to act [[CloudCuckooLander terrifyingly randomly;]] nor are they necessarily a LawfulNeutral [[TheFettered Fettered]], because our and their understanding of 'law' "law" as a concept may not even be equivalent. There might be a [[InsaneTrollLogic logic]] behind their actions, it's just that they operate with entirely different sets of values and premises with which to draw their conclusions. It's also worth noting that such cultures are just as likely to be something we'd find appalling, as they are to be something we'd find benign and/or weird. [[HumansThroughAlienEyes They may also find us appalling, benign, or weird even if we don't see them that way.]]
5th Feb '16 8:44:43 AM valozzy
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%%If you have [[JustForFun/SyndicateQuestersUnitedAgainstDeviousness tim]]e, please take time to put examples in alphabetical order. This page Administrivia/HowToAlphabetizeThings should help you with that.

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5th Feb '16 1:02:06 AM Blue050645TL
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%%If you have time, please take time to put examples in alphabetical order. This page Administrivia/HowToAlphabetizeThings should help you with that.

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2nd Feb '16 11:09:50 AM eroock
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->"''For one of dragon's blood to not take up weapons, to not prepare night and day to slaughter any enemies that would come against them – it is unthinkable. It is – one who does such a thing, who believes the world will not be dangerous, will not strive to kill him... That is what we call insane."''

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->"''For ->''"For one of dragon's blood to not take up weapons, to not prepare night and day to slaughter any enemies that would come against them – it is unthinkable. It is – one who does such a thing, who believes the world will not be dangerous, will not strive to kill him... That is what we call insane."''
29th Oct '15 10:28:09 PM Snowy66
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Compare {{Xenofiction}}, HumansAreCthulhu, HumanityIsInfectious (all often involving this), AboveGoodAndEvil, AffablyEvil / FauxAffablyEvil (they sometimes can come across as this), EvenEvilHasStandards (when handled poorly or bizarrely), EvilCannotComprehendGood (less elaborate forms that resemble this in practice), and NonMaliciousMonster (which occasionally requires this). When two sides go to war and nothing will stop them except total annihilation, that's GuiltFreeExterminationWar. If the character genuinely knows everything will turn out okay, allowing the plot to treat them as a good guy no matter how cruel, irresponsible or fascist this makes them by our standards, that's OmniscientMoralityLicense. If this trope applies exclusively to sexual preferences, that's BlueAndOrangeSexuality.

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Compare {{Xenofiction}}, HumansAreCthulhu, HumanityIsInfectious (all often involving this), AboveGoodAndEvil, AffablyEvil / FauxAffablyEvil (they sometimes can come across as this), EvenEvilHasStandards (when handled poorly or bizarrely), EvilCannotComprehendGood (less elaborate forms that resemble this in practice), and NonMaliciousMonster (which occasionally requires this). When two sides go to war and nothing will stop them except total annihilation, that's GuiltFreeExterminationWar. If the character genuinely knows everything will turn out okay, allowing the plot to treat them as a good guy no matter how cruel, irresponsible or fascist this makes them by our standards, that's OmniscientMoralityLicense. If this trope applies exclusively to sexual preferences, that's BlueAndOrangeSexuality.
OmniscientMoralityLicense.
29th Sep '15 12:47:17 PM hamza678
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* BlueAndOrangeMorality/{{Comics}}

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* BlueAndOrangeMorality/{{Comics}}BlueAndOrangeMorality/ComicBooks
27th Sep '15 10:52:56 PM Gatomon41
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** Many have observed the way the contrast between the way Jesus preached not to judge others, and the way that some Christians treat LGBT people due to the infamous Leviticus quote. This has led to Christians being the nicest people in the world until they find out you are gay, and then shunning you. This is a sad reality for many people who've come out to their religious parents.
14th Sep '15 7:18:56 AM onionmaster
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** Many have observed the way the contrast between the way Jesus preached not to judge others, and the way that some Christians treat LGBT people due to the infamous Leviticus quote. This has led to Christians being the nicest people in the world until they find out you are gay, and then shunning you. This is a sad reality for many people who've come out to their religious parents.
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