History Main / BloodOnTheDebateFloor

22nd Oct '17 10:48:00 AM nombretomado
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* In [[CanadianPolitics Canada]], John A. Macdonald (the first Prime Minister of Canada and Father of the Nation) once charged a Member of Parliament in the House of Commons himself and had to be physically restrained. Macdonald roared, "I'll lick him faster than Hell can scorch a feather!"

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* In [[CanadianPolitics [[UsefulNotes/CanadianPolitics Canada]], John A. Macdonald (the first Prime Minister of Canada and Father of the Nation) once charged a Member of Parliament in the House of Commons himself and had to be physically restrained. Macdonald roared, "I'll lick him faster than Hell can scorch a feather!"
17th Oct '17 5:08:45 AM LeahJ
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* To prevent this sort of thing happening in the [[UsefulNotes/BritishPoliticalSystem British House of Commons]], there are two red lines on the carpet, at two swords' lengths apart, which [=MPs=] are not allowed to cross - a custom originating from the days when [=MPs=] brought weapons to work. However, there was a case in 1972 when MP Bernadette Devlin--a Northern Irish Catholic activist and MP who ''refused'' to join Śinn Féin as she wanted to take her seat at Westminster and took a great risk to give the people of her constituency a voice--slapped Home Secretary Reginald Maudling, after he made claims that British soldiers during the "Bloody Sunday" massacre only fired in self-defense, which contradicted Devlin's eyewitness testimony on the event. (She was also pissed off that she had not been recognized to speak on the subject in Parliament, despite a longstanding convention that any MP who had been present at some event under parliamentary discussion must be given an opportunity to give an account.)

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* To There is an oft-repeated myth that, to prevent this sort of thing happening in the [[UsefulNotes/BritishPoliticalSystem British House of Commons]], there are two red lines on the carpet, at two swords' lengths apart, which [=MPs=] are not allowed to cross - a custom originating from the days when [=MPs=] brought weapons to work. However, there was a case in 1972 when MP Bernadette Devlin--a Northern Irish Catholic activist and MP who ''refused'' to join Śinn Féin as she wanted to take her seat at Westminster and took a great risk to give the people of her constituency a voice--slapped Home Secretary Reginald Maudling, after he made claims that British soldiers during the "Bloody Sunday" massacre only fired in self-defense, which contradicted Devlin's eyewitness testimony on the event. (She was also pissed off that she had not been recognized to speak on the subject in Parliament, despite a longstanding convention that any MP who had been present at some event under parliamentary discussion must be given an opportunity to give an account.)
9th Sep '17 3:58:39 PM nombretomado
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* On May 22, 1856, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_Brooks#Sumner_assault Congressman Preston Brooks]] of South Carolina savagely beat Senator Charles Sumner of Massachusetts with his cane while in the [[AmericanPoliticalSystem Senate chamber]] in response to a strong anti-slavery speech by Sumner. Sumner took three years to recover, and was injured for life.[[note]]Sumner remained in the Senate until 1874, and was if anything an even more radical opponent of slavery after the beating than before; after the Civil War ended slavery, he was one of the leaders of the "Radical Republicans" who wanted to completely restructure and "punish" the South.[[/note]] Representative Anson Burlingame, also of Massachusetts, labelled Brooks a coward for the manner of the attack (besides the savagery and Sumner's lack of preparedness, Sumner was seated at his Senate desk--for why that's bad, see below), and Brooks challenged him to a duel. Burlingame accepted, requesting rifles as the weapon, and the Canadian side of Niagara Falls as the site (since dueling was and still is illegal in the United States, regardless of whether the participants give mutual consent). Brooks was surprised at his opponent's enthusiasm, then [[DirtyCoward refused to show up]] after learning his opponent was a crack marksman, citing fear for his safety en route.

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* On May 22, 1856, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_Brooks#Sumner_assault Congressman Preston Brooks]] of South Carolina savagely beat Senator Charles Sumner of Massachusetts with his cane while in the [[AmericanPoliticalSystem [[UsefulNotes/AmericanPoliticalSystem Senate chamber]] in response to a strong anti-slavery speech by Sumner. Sumner took three years to recover, and was injured for life.[[note]]Sumner remained in the Senate until 1874, and was if anything an even more radical opponent of slavery after the beating than before; after the Civil War ended slavery, he was one of the leaders of the "Radical Republicans" who wanted to completely restructure and "punish" the South.[[/note]] Representative Anson Burlingame, also of Massachusetts, labelled Brooks a coward for the manner of the attack (besides the savagery and Sumner's lack of preparedness, Sumner was seated at his Senate desk--for why that's bad, see below), and Brooks challenged him to a duel. Burlingame accepted, requesting rifles as the weapon, and the Canadian side of Niagara Falls as the site (since dueling was and still is illegal in the United States, regardless of whether the participants give mutual consent). Brooks was surprised at his opponent's enthusiasm, then [[DirtyCoward refused to show up]] after learning his opponent was a crack marksman, citing fear for his safety en route.
27th Aug '17 1:28:55 PM nombretomado
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* ''QuestForGloryIII'' is mostly based around gathering two warring groups (a warrior tribe of cattle ranchers, and magical shapeshifting leopard men) for a peace conference in a neutral city. [[spoiler:When you finally get the two leaders together, they start talking... for five seconds, before they murder each other.]]

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* ''QuestForGloryIII'' ''VideoGame/QuestForGloryIII'' is mostly based around gathering two warring groups (a warrior tribe of cattle ranchers, and magical shapeshifting leopard men) for a peace conference in a neutral city. [[spoiler:When you finally get the two leaders together, they start talking... for five seconds, before they murder each other.]]
12th Jun '17 8:18:49 PM MaxBrain
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* The Provisional Commonwealth Government in ''VideoGame/Fallout4'' was an early attempt to form a legislature in the post-war Commonwealth. The way Nick Valentine tells it, an Institute Synth murdered every representative in the room, bringing this endeavor to a swift end. [[spoiler:Father tells it differently, claiming that the Synth was the only one left after all the other representatives killed each other. Old holotapes corroborate this narrative.]]

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* The Provisional Commonwealth Provisional Government in ''VideoGame/Fallout4'' was an early attempt to form a legislature in the post-war Commonwealth. The way Nick Valentine tells it, an Institute Synth murdered every representative in the room, bringing this endeavor to a swift end. [[spoiler:Father tells it differently, claiming that the Synth was the only one left after all the other representatives killed each other. Old holotapes corroborate this narrative.]]
12th Jun '17 8:15:16 PM MaxBrain
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* The Provisional Commonwealth Government in ''VideoGame/Fallout4'' was an early attempt to form a legislature in the post-war Commonwealth. The way Nick Valentine tells it, an Institute Synth murdered every representative in the room, bringing this endeavor to a swift end. [[spoiler:Father tells it differently, claiming that the Synth was the only one left after all the other representatives killed each other. Old holotapes corroborate this narrative.]]
30th May '17 1:43:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ThreeHundred'': Queen Gorgo speaks to the Spartan ''gerousia'' (senate), hoping to convince them to send the full army to reinforce King Leonidas. Theron betrays her and mocks her fidelity for having slept with him. Gorgo's rebuttal is a sword to his rib, followed by a ruthless IronicEcho of the words he used against her during said tryst ([[ScarpiaUltimatum which was anything]] [[RapeAsDrama but consensual]]).
* There are a couple of small ones near the end of ''MrSmithGoesToWashington''.

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* ''ThreeHundred'': ''Film/ThreeHundred'': Queen Gorgo speaks to the Spartan ''gerousia'' (senate), hoping to convince them to send the full army to reinforce King Leonidas. Theron betrays her and mocks her fidelity for having slept with him. Gorgo's rebuttal is a sword to his rib, followed by a ruthless IronicEcho of the words he used against her during said tryst ([[ScarpiaUltimatum which was anything]] [[RapeAsDrama but consensual]]).
* There are a couple of small ones near the end of ''MrSmithGoesToWashington''.''Film/MrSmithGoesToWashington''.
15th Mar '17 6:37:32 AM Charbydis
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** A violation of Rule XIX (famously used by Jeff Sessions against Elizabeth Warren in 2017) essentially boils down to stopping a Senator who is Addressing the Senate from verbally attacking the motives of a fellow Senator and/or any state. Senator's who are seen as breaking it are no longer allowed to partake in the debate (they can still vote on the bill). The logic is meant to diffuse any situation where the verbal offense would give way to this trope (to prevent LoopholeAbuse, this includes quoting other people who speak ill of the aggrieved Senator.). It only applies on the Senate Floor, so there is nothing stopping the Senator who is [[StreisandEffect accused of doing such from going to the nearest reporter and repeating the attack on national Television, so using it to silence opposing party members is generally unwise.]] [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Whether or not any such incident was justified is best discussed elsewhere.]] According to later media reporting, the rule dates to the antebellum dates alluded to above and was supposedly used to silence abolitionists. Make of that what you will.
3rd Mar '17 1:54:59 PM Jhonny
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* Perhaps the most Canadian version of this can be seen [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp2trJBoUBA here]] when Justin Trudeau tries to intervene in a scuffle (caused by one party trying to physically block members of another party from getting where they want) and in the process hits a woman standing behind him with his elbow. Of course the video also contains him apologizing profusely.
3rd Mar '17 12:56:35 PM Xtifr
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* The most (in)famous occurrence of this: the assassination of Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar (the famous one) inside the Senate (actually Pompey's Theater, where the Senate was temporarily meeting) on March 15, 44 BC. The reason the conspirators chose to kill him there is that, by custom, only senators were allowed to enter the chamber, so Caesar couldn't bring bodyguards.

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* The most (in)famous occurrence of this: the assassination of Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar (the famous one) inside the Senate (actually Pompey's Theater, where the Senate was temporarily meeting) on March 15, 44 BC. The reason the conspirators chose to kill him there is that, by custom, only senators were allowed to enter the chamber, so Caesar couldn't bring bodyguards.
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