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21st Mar '18 8:54:50 PM TheNerevarine
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* [[WomanScorned Megara]] in NBC's ''{{Series/Hercules}}'' serves as [[EvilMatriarch Alcmene's]] disciple and the two work together to ruin the life of Hercules. To her credit, she admires Alcmene and is loyal to her until she witnesses [[spoiler:her husband cheating on her with Alcmene's son Iphicles, realizing they were both trying to replace her. Megara arranges for Iphicles to be sacrificed in front of his mother no less and lets her know that she is responsible for Megara's treacherous ways. This ironically ends up triggering Alcmene's HeelFaceTurn]].
25th Feb '18 1:31:46 PM thatother1dude
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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' [[EnigmaticMinion Kabuto]] and [[RivalTurnedEvil Sasuke]] represent the two different types of this: the latter learns all he can from Orochimaru and then "kills" him, while the former, after witnessing Orochimaru's death, has become obsessed with carrying on and perfecting his legacy. To be fair to Sasuke, in this particular case he acted out of principle- he might have planned on dumping Oro from early on, but he only ''killed'' him because he saw Orochimaru as an evil, [[ForTheEvulz sadistic]] [[TheSociopath psychopath]] who had [[MotiveDecay abandoned whatever higher purposes he once pursued]], every bit as bad as the mass murdering brother he was training to kill. Which is exactly right, despite the irony that Sasuke himself is exactly that type of person.

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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' [[EnigmaticMinion Kabuto]] and [[RivalTurnedEvil Sasuke]] represent the two different types of this: the latter learns all he can from Orochimaru and then "kills" him, while the former, after witnessing Orochimaru's death, has become obsessed with carrying on and perfecting his legacy. To be fair to Sasuke, in this particular case he acted out of principle- he might have planned on dumping Oro from early on, but he only ''killed'' him because he saw Orochimaru as an evil, [[ForTheEvulz sadistic]] [[TheSociopath psychopath]] who had [[MotiveDecay abandoned whatever higher purposes he once pursued]], every bit as bad as the mass murdering brother he was training to kill. Which is exactly right, despite the irony that Sasuke himself is exactly that type of person.would later go in the same direction.
5th Feb '18 7:59:58 AM Morgenthaler
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10th Sep '17 11:26:00 AM nombretomado
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* The PFY from the ''BastardOperatorFromHell'' saga - though the titular Bastard has ''[[KlingonPromotion raised him to do this]]'', and ''always'' gets his revenge for each and every betrayal. Ah, kids these days...

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* The PFY from the ''BastardOperatorFromHell'' ''Literature/BastardOperatorFromHell'' saga - though the titular Bastard has ''[[KlingonPromotion raised him to do this]]'', and ''always'' gets his revenge for each and every betrayal. Ah, kids these days...
29th Aug '17 7:57:43 PM RoninMacbeth
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': By the end of Season 4, Sansa becomes this to Littlefinger, impressing him by willingly protecting him from the nobles of the Vale with manipulation techniques she's learned from his various monologues. She has also thrown in with his plans while gaining some leverage against unwanted advances. Needless to say, Petyr is impressed by this.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': By the end of Season 4, Sansa becomes this to Littlefinger, impressing him by willingly protecting him from the nobles of the Vale with manipulation techniques she's learned from his various monologues. She has also thrown in with his plans while gaining some leverage against unwanted advances. Needless to say, Petyr is impressed by this. [[spoiler: By the end of Season 7, she puts his lessons to good use. [[MistreatmentInducedBetrayal On]] ''[[TheDogBitesBack Littlefinger]].'']]
7th May '17 4:32:15 AM Zeiram1990
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* [[MagnificentBastard Princess Azula]] from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' seems to have been this to [[BigBad her father]], but ultimately with a couple of twists- first, that she's already smarter than he is ([[TheChessmaster or at least more willing to use smarts instead of force]]) by her first appearance, and second in that the finale proves her to be [[DaddysLittleVillain genuinely loyal to him]]. Thus many [[FanWank Fan Theories]] of her being TheStarscream[=/=] DragonAscendant were {{Jossed}}.

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* [[MagnificentBastard [[TheDragon Princess Azula]] from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' seems to have been this to [[BigBad her father]], but ultimately with a couple of twists- first, that she's already smarter than he is ([[TheChessmaster or at least more willing to use smarts instead of force]]) by her first appearance, and second in that the finale proves her to be [[DaddysLittleVillain genuinely loyal to him]]. Thus many [[FanWank Fan Theories]] of her being TheStarscream[=/=] DragonAscendant were {{Jossed}}.
22nd Apr '17 9:18:48 AM DoctorNemesis
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** However, this just reveals that Malcolm has chosen his Bastard Understudy carefully; while Jamie is useful to Malcolm and certainly is not unintelligent or incompetent, compared to Malcolm Jamie is a bit of a shouty, violent bully whose HairTriggerTemper and resulting lack of charm means he lacks the ability to truly be a threat. Accordingly, Malcolm is largely unconcerned by Jamie’s manoeuvre because he knows it will ultimately fail, as it does.

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** However, this just reveals that Malcolm has chosen his Bastard Understudy carefully; while Jamie is useful to Malcolm and certainly is not unintelligent or incompetent, compared to Malcolm Jamie is just a bit of a shouty, violent bully whose HairTriggerTemper and resulting lack of charm means he lacks the ability to truly be a threat. Accordingly, Malcolm is largely unconcerned by Jamie’s manoeuvre because he knows it will ultimately fail, as it does.
8th Apr '17 5:51:11 PM LentilSandEater
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* In ''Literature/{{Stardust}}'', the seven princes of Stormhold are ''always'' killing each other to strengthen their claim on the crown. Septimus is clearly the champion at this, and the reigning MagnificentBastard of the book/film. So it should come as no surprise that Tertius, his much older brother, makes an attempt on his life. And fails, miserably. While Primus, the oldest and wisest, spends most of his time avoiding Septimus.
** This apparently the expected method of gaining the throne - the old king is quite disappointed he still has more than one surviving son on his death.

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* In ''Literature/{{Stardust}}'', the seven princes of Stormhold are ''always'' killing each other to strengthen their claim on the crown. Septimus is clearly the champion at this, and the reigning MagnificentBastard of the book/film. So it should come as no surprise that Tertius, his much older brother, makes an attempt on his life. And fails, miserably. While Primus, the oldest and wisest, spends most of his time avoiding Septimus.
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Septimus. This apparently the expected method of gaining the throne - the old king is quite disappointed he still has more than one surviving son on his death.
8th Apr '17 5:50:40 PM LentilSandEater
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* In ''Literature/{{Dune}}'', Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen serves as the Bastard Understudy to Baron Harkonnen. Feyd-Rautha actually launches at least one assassination-attempt against his uncle, but fails primarily due to bad luck. H never really gets around to usurping the throne - the Baron dies by the Gom Jabbar before he gets the chance.
** And Feyd dies in a duel against Paul soon after anyway.
** Feyd is punished by the Baron as a result of the attempt on his life. Not for trying to kill him, but for FAILING.

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* In ''Literature/{{Dune}}'', Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen serves as the Bastard Understudy to Baron Harkonnen. Feyd-Rautha actually launches at least one assassination-attempt against his uncle, but fails primarily due to bad luck. H never really gets around to usurping the throne - the Baron dies by the Gom Jabbar before he gets the chance.
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chance. And Feyd dies in a duel against Paul soon after anyway.
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anyway. Feyd is punished by the Baron as a result of the attempt on his life. Not for trying to kill him, but for FAILING.
7th Apr '17 6:48:02 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': By the end of Season 4, Sansa becomes this to Littlefinger, impressing him by willingly protecting him with manipulation techniques while gaining some leverage against unwanted advances.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': By the end of Season 4, Sansa becomes this to Littlefinger, impressing him by willingly protecting him from the nobles of the Vale with manipulation techniques she's learned from his various monologues. She has also thrown in with his plans while gaining some leverage against unwanted advances.advances. Needless to say, Petyr is impressed by this.
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