History Main / BalkanizeMe

19th Aug '16 4:24:23 AM Morgenthaler
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** A [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Katanga State of Katanga]] bed by Moise Tschombé and backed by [[MegaCorp powerful Belgian economical interests]] and foreign [[{{Mercenary}} mercenaries]] until they were crushed by the UnitedNations in 1963.

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** A [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Katanga State of Katanga]] bed by Moise Tschombé and backed by [[MegaCorp powerful Belgian economical interests]] and foreign [[{{Mercenary}} mercenaries]] until they were crushed by the UnitedNations UsefulNotes/UnitedNations in 1963.
9th Jun '16 10:23:01 AM ReaderAt2046
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* In-universe example in FanFic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse. Whereas in the Celestiaverse Celestia allowed a bloodthirsty warlord to unite the Griffon Kingdoms into an Empire that is still one of the biggest threats to Equestria, Princess Luna was a bit more procative in her continuity, and signed mutual defense pacts with several of the more reasonable Kingdoms. Equestria's resources were more than sufficient to prevent the warlord's conquest, and the Kingdoms remain divided still.
1st Jun '16 1:37:29 AM Doug86
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* ''Literature/VivereMilitareEst'', an AlternateHistory where the end of WorldWarII was co-opted by the introduction of [[WeirdHistoricalWar weaponised preternatural horrors]] by (who else?) [[{{Ghostapo}} Nazi Germany]], has several examples:

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* ''Literature/VivereMilitareEst'', an AlternateHistory where the end of WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII was co-opted by the introduction of [[WeirdHistoricalWar weaponised preternatural horrors]] by (who else?) [[{{Ghostapo}} Nazi Germany]], has several examples:



*** Then after [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne the Great War]], its South Slavic states seceded and joined up with Montenegro and Serbia (which also controlled Kosovo & Macedonia) to form the short-lived Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes (later Yugoslavia; the former Austrian states that joined were [most of] Slovenia, [most of] Croatia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina).

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*** Then after [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI the Great War]], its South Slavic states seceded and joined up with Montenegro and Serbia (which also controlled Kosovo & Macedonia) to form the short-lived Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes (later Yugoslavia; the former Austrian states that joined were [most of] Slovenia, [most of] Croatia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina).



* Following the death of Prince Bolesław III in 1138, Poland was divided among his sons and over the next two centuries fractured into smaller princedoms. It was not until 1320 that the major regions were reunited under a single ruler. Some of the other regions would not become part of Poland again until after UsefulNotes/WorldWar2.

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* Following the death of Prince Bolesław III in 1138, Poland was divided among his sons and over the next two centuries fractured into smaller princedoms. It was not until 1320 that the major regions were reunited under a single ruler. Some of the other regions would not become part of Poland again until after UsefulNotes/WorldWar2.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
17th May '16 1:15:16 PM JujuP
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* In [=CalBear=]'s ''Literature/TheAngloAmericanNaziWar'' several OTL nations are TTL divided:
** Indonesia is coming into several states.
** Per the treaty of Barcelona, Germany is to be forever divided in 15 authonomous regions, on pain of being [[NukeEm nuked]].
** France coastal regions, along with its colonial empire, are now separated from the former metropolis.
** Ukraine has being halved into West and East.
** Russia is divided into a resurgent [[UsefulNotes/ImperialRussia Russian Tsarist Republic]], a [[VestigialEmpire vestigial Soviet Union]] located in Siberia and a [[ExpandedStatesOfAmerica Western Alaska]] in Eastern Siberia.



** The same would later happen to Turkey's archrival, the Habsburg Empire. Nationalist pressures forced Austria to grant autonomy to Hungary, creating the Austro-Hungarian Empire and dividing the realm between Cisleithania (Austria) and Transleithania (Hungary). Then after [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne the Great War]], its South Slavic states seceded and joined up with Montenegro and Serbia (which also controlled Kosovo & Macedonia) to form the short-lived Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes (later Yugoslavia; the former Austrian states that joined were [most of] Slovenia, [most of] Croatia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina); German territories became part of Austria (most of them, anyway; that "most" becomes ''very'' important [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII later]]); Bohemia and Moravia left with Slovakia to form Czechoslovakia; and Hungary became independent. Also, Krakow and Lwow joined the rest of newly-independent Poland (though the latter would become part of Ukraine after WWII) and Transylvania joined with the rest of Romania (which at the time also included most of modern-day Moldova).

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** The same would later happen to Turkey's archrival, the Habsburg Empire. Empire.
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Nationalist pressures forced Austria to grant autonomy to Hungary, creating the Austro-Hungarian Empire and dividing the realm between Cisleithania (Austria) and Transleithania (Hungary). (Hungary).
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Then after [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne the Great War]], its South Slavic states seceded and joined up with Montenegro and Serbia (which also controlled Kosovo & Macedonia) to form the short-lived Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes (later Yugoslavia; the former Austrian states that joined were [most of] Slovenia, [most of] Croatia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina); Bosnia-Herzegovina).
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German territories became part of Austria (most of them, anyway; that "most" becomes ''very'' important [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII later]]); later]]).
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Bohemia and Moravia left with Slovakia to form Czechoslovakia; and Czechoslovakia
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Hungary became independent. independent.
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Also, Krakow and Lwow joined the rest of newly-independent Poland (though the latter would become part of Ukraine after WWII) and Transylvania joined with the rest of Romania (which at the time also included most of modern-day Moldova).



* After the World Wars, the European powers did this to their colonies and protectorates in Africa and the Middle East. However, rather than splitting up their holdings by former tribal, ethnic, or religious lines, the new countries were mostly formed from the borders between holdings by different European powers, resulting in countries where different groups who spent most of their history fighting each other suddenly having to cooperate in governing a fledgling nation so watch for the next round, coming soon! In fact, one solution for war-torn Iraq proposed by, among other people, Joe Biden was to divide it into a Kurdish north, a secular/Sunni middle-&-west including Baghdad, and a Shi'a south; this solution was vetoed by Turkey (who don't want a ''de jure'' independent Kurdistan on their doorstep) and nation-building advocates in the US and Israel (who worried about a Shi'a-Arab-only state aligning itself with also-Shi'a Iran).

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* After the World Wars, the European powers did this to their colonies and protectorates in Africa and the Middle East. However, rather than splitting up their holdings by former tribal, ethnic, or religious lines, the new countries were mostly formed from the borders between holdings by different European powers, resulting in countries where different groups who spent most of their history fighting each other suddenly having to cooperate in governing a fledgling nation so watch for the next round, coming soon! soon!
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In fact, one solution for war-torn Iraq proposed by, among other people, Joe Biden was to divide it into a Kurdish north, a secular/Sunni middle-&-west including Baghdad, and a Shi'a south; this solution was vetoed by Turkey (who don't want a ''de jure'' independent Kurdistan on their doorstep) and nation-building advocates in the US and Israel (who worried about a Shi'a-Arab-only state aligning itself with also-Shi'a Iran).



* A big issue in modern Spain is the increasing cessessionist will of Catalonia and, to a lesser extent, the Basque Country, especially since the economic crisis started. Nationalists are in power in both of those regions and the central government's refusal to organize a referendum about Catalonia only fuels ressentment. The Basque issue is more complex, as the nothern part of historical Euskadi is in France, which is a much more centralized country and where the Basque Country is a historical region but not an administrative entity.

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* A big issue in modern Spain is the increasing cessessionist secessionist will of Catalonia and, to a lesser extent, the Basque Country, especially since the economic crisis started. Nationalists are in power in both of those regions and the central government's refusal to organize a referendum about Catalonia only fuels ressentment. The Basque issue is more complex, as the nothern part of historical Euskadi is in France, which is a much more centralized country and where the Basque Country is a historical region but not an administrative entity.


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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_Crisis Congo Crisis]] in the former Belgian Congo has been caused by tensions between regions and the Léopoldville central authority and saw the following states created in 1960:
** A [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Katanga State of Katanga]] bed by Moise Tschombé and backed by [[MegaCorp powerful Belgian economical interests]] and foreign [[{{Mercenary}} mercenaries]] until they were crushed by the UnitedNations in 1963.
** A [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Kasai Mining State of South Kasai]] led by Albert Kalondji and ordered like Katanga above, yet with a lesser foreign support, created briefly both in 1960 and 1962-1963.
** A lumumbist People's Republic of Congo in Stanleyville, led by Antoine Gizenga shortly after Patrice Lumumba was arrested on December 1960 and was dissolved in 1961.
** In the troubles of July and August 1960, yet other secessionist projects were attempted, such as the secession of the Equateur province by Bolikongo and, even more weirder, ''the secession of the Bas-Congo region, where was situated the capital Léopoldville!''
15th Apr '16 5:39:18 AM Eilevgmyhren
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''UsefulNotes/{{Oslo}}'', the Norwegian capital, suffers under a perpetual threat of becoming this - for political reasons. When the city has a right-wing leadership, the eastern part of the city suffers, and over the last decade, numerous threats were made on seceding the eastern parts of the city. Then, a more left-wing city council was elected, and then the ''western'' part of the city threatened to secede.

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* ''UsefulNotes/{{Oslo}}'', the Norwegian capital, suffers under a perpetual threat of becoming this - for political reasons. When the city has a right-wing leadership, the eastern part of the city suffers, and over the last decade, numerous threats were made on seceding the eastern parts of the city. Then, a more left-wing city council was elected, and then the ''western'' part of the city threatened to secede.
15th Apr '16 5:39:06 AM Eilevgmyhren
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''UsefulNotes/{{Oslo}}'', the Norwegian capital, suffers under a perpetual threat of becoming this - for political reasons. When the city has a right-wing leadership, the eastern part of the city suffers, and over the last decade, numerous threats were made on seceding the eastern parts of the city. Then, a more left-wing city council was elected, and then the ''western'' part of the city threatened to secede.
12th Mar '16 7:11:05 PM thatmadork
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* The Eldar Empire of ''''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' was swallowed by the Eye of Terror. Those that survived fled in Craftworlds, spaceships the size of planets. Differences in their ways of life have prevented them from reuniting.

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* The Eldar Empire of ''''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' spanned the entire galaxy before the heart of the empire was swallowed by the [[NegativeSpaceWedgie Eye of Terror. Those that survived fled in Terror]]. Some Eldar crewed independent, planet-sized spaceships called Craftworlds, spaceships some depraved individuals fled into the size settlements in the Webway and formed a horrifying civilisation built on slavery and torture, some fled to worlds on the edges of planets. Differences in their ways the empire and formed Luddite colonies, and some simply took to roaming the galaxy as bands of life raiders and pirates. The massive cultural differences which have prevented them from reuniting.emerged between these divergent Eldar factions over the centuries mean the Eldar race will probably never again be united as they used to be.
4th Mar '16 5:02:00 AM Waddle
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* The Kalos region from ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' is based on the northern half of France.



28th Jan '16 1:14:48 AM LordInsane
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* In ''VideoGame/AfterTheEndACrusaderKingsIIMod'', the United States of America is now no more than a distant memory. Not even many of the original states we'd recognise today still exist. Instead, a number of kingdoms and mini-nations have sprung up with their own distinct cultures and religions. The same is true for Mexico and Canada. Interestingly, the inverse is true for Central America and the Caribbean, as the islands have merged together into new, unified empires (though WordOfGod states that the mod is being set up so that this happens to those Caribbean nations ''during'' most games, once the Empress dies and the king-slaying crown prince takes the throne). Also inverted for [[spoiler:the United Kingdom, which over the centuries seems to have revived the British Empire and will be making an attempt to take the colonies back]].

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* In ''VideoGame/AfterTheEndACrusaderKingsIIMod'', the United States of America is now no more than a distant memory. Not even many of the original states we'd recognise today still exist. Instead, a number of kingdoms and mini-nations have sprung up with their own distinct cultures and religions. The same is true for Mexico and Canada. Interestingly, the inverse is true for Central America and the Caribbean, as the islands have merged together into new, unified empires (though WordOfGod states that the mod is being set up so that this happens to those Caribbean nations ''during'' most games, once the Empress dies and the king-slaying kin-slaying crown prince takes the throne). Also inverted for [[spoiler:the United Kingdom, which over the centuries seems to have revived the British Empire and will be making an attempt to take the colonies back]].
26th Jan '16 1:44:42 PM ludditetolpuddle
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* After the Battle of Austerlitz in 1806, the Holy Roman Empire collapsed in to two halves; Prussia and the "Confederation of the Rhine"; after WW2, when the former Allies failed to agree on the nature of a re-unified Germany, the Western Allies (Britain, France and the US) created the German Federal Republic from their half, prompting Soviet premier Krushchev to remark "So, all we have to show for 150 years of history is the re-creation of the Confederation of the Rhine".
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