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7th Mar '17 2:51:58 PM FGHIK
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This character type appears in child-friendly works. They are supposed to be a supreme badass, but are unfortunately hampered by their target audience. They are as much [[Film/DieHard John McClane]] as can be squeezed by the censors, and they are often much tougher than their companions. Still, they are usually not allowed to smoke, [[TheAlcoholic drink]], [[ReallyGetsAround bed numerous people]], [[SirSwearsALot swear]], or do too much fighting or killing, and that is quite a list of hurdles to making them a rough-edged [[Film/DieHard Mister Falcon]].

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This character type appears in child-friendly works. They are supposed to be a supreme badass, but are unfortunately hampered by their target audience. They are as much [[Film/DieHard John McClane]] as can be squeezed by the censors, and they are often much tougher than their companions. Still, they are usually not allowed to smoke, [[NoSmoking smoke]], [[TheAlcoholic drink]], [[ReallyGetsAround bed numerous people]], [[SirSwearsALot swear]], or do too much fighting or killing, and that is quite a list of hurdles to making them a rough-edged [[Film/DieHard Mister Falcon]].
25th Feb '17 3:17:04 PM rva98014
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* Nick Wilde from ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' is presented as a conman and swindler, however no part of the so-called "hustle" we see is actually illegal. He buys an elephant-sized ice pop, melts it down, re-freezes it into lots of much-smaller ice pops, and after selling them, sells the used popsicle sticks as rodent-sized lumber. The only part of the operation that could really qualify as a scam is the bit where [[AdultsDressedAsChildren he dresses up a diminutive colleague as his infant son]], which seems to only be necessary due to [[FantasticRacism speciesist shopkeepers who won't sell to a fox]]. Genuine criminals do appear in the film, but since Nick is a protagonist, it makes sense that his own misdeeds be far tamer. This is acknowledged in the film twice: first when Judy tries to arrest him and he successfully proves that he's acting inside the law, and again when Weaselton takes a subtly mocking tone when speaking of Nick's methods.
15th Jan '17 7:49:22 PM ElSquibbonator
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** Cranked UpToEleven and PlayedForLaughs with Batman, as he desperately wants to be seen as a DarkerAndEdgier angsty, brooding figure but just comes off as trying way too hard. Justified in that [[spoiler:the story is being told by an 8-and-a-half year old boy who is engaging in his play at home, and Batman is likely based on his immature idea of what a ''real'' badass is like.]]

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** Cranked UpToEleven and PlayedForLaughs with Batman, as he desperately wants to be seen as a DarkerAndEdgier angsty, brooding figure but just comes off as trying way too hard. Justified in that [[spoiler:the story is being told by an 8-and-a-half year old boy who is engaging in his play at home, and this depiction of Batman is likely based on his immature idea of what a ''real'' badass is like.]]
13th Jan '17 8:22:10 AM jenmic
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** Dennis himself really was a terror as far as 1950s toddlers go (he is often forced to sit in a corner as punishment), but the black-and-white TV series sanitized him so completely that Jay North (the actor who plays him) comes off as grating instead.

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** Dennis himself really was a terror as far as 1950s toddlers kids go (he is often forced to sit in a corner as punishment), but the black-and-white TV series sanitized him so completely that Jay North (the actor who plays him) comes off as grating instead.
26th Dec '16 11:16:28 AM nombretomado
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** It parodies that Jet is this in ''AvatarTheAbridgedSeries'', where Jet makes the comment that he is so badass, that if the show weren't TV-Y7, he'd instead [[SmokingIsCool have a cigarette.]]

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** It parodies that Jet is this in ''AvatarTheAbridgedSeries'', ''WebVideo/AvatarTheAbridgedSeries'', where Jet makes the comment that he is so badass, that if the show weren't TV-Y7, he'd instead [[SmokingIsCool have a cigarette.]]
8th Dec '16 4:45:00 PM DustSnitch
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** Dennis himself really was a terror as far as 1950s toddlers go (he is often forced to sit in a corner as punishment), but the black-and-white TV series sanitized him so completely that Jay North (the actor who plays him) comes off as TheScrappy instead.

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** Dennis himself really was a terror as far as 1950s toddlers go (he is often forced to sit in a corner as punishment), but the black-and-white TV series sanitized him so completely that Jay North (the actor who plays him) comes off as TheScrappy grating instead.
5th Dec '16 9:56:11 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[EvilCounterpart The Moopets]] from ''Film/TheMuppets''. They're presented as seedy, lowlife thug types, but don't drink, smoke or swear (although we do see Miss Poogy sharpening a knife at one point, for unknown purposes).
* Film/{{Courageous}} is an interesting example in that being a Christian film, the cops are often shown doing pretty spectacular things (even with both stun-guns and real bullet-guns), minus the profanity and the smoking, drinking, etc. Except at the picnic where they do drink, just responsibly.
* Kelly Leak in the remake of ''Film/TheBadNewsBears'' somewhat comes off as this, despite the movie being PG-13. In the original film he smoked cigarettes, drove a motorcycle, and initially bullied some of the Bears. In the remake, however, he doesn't smoke, doesn't really have much of a bad attitude towards anybody except his former coach, that which is understandable, and his motorcycle is even replaced with a dirtbike.
* Latin American dubs of North American movies tend to turn out this way because those countries have stricter censorship standards than the United States or Canada when it comes to profanity. The Spanish-language dubs can't have the characters blurting "Jesus Christ" whenever they get flustered-- partly because of the strongly Catholic culture of those countries, and partly because [[LostInTranslation it's just not a common idiom in Spanish]]. Instead you'll hear really bad dudes shouting "''Cielos!''" ("Good heavens!") Even "Jiminy Christmas!" sounds too close to the real thing for some Latin American censors, and tends to be replaced with something even more absurd.
* Machete in the ''Film/SpyKids'' movies was about as badass as Creator/DannyTrejo could be allowed to be with the PG rating. This was later [[SubvertedTrope turned around]], though, once Creator/RobertRodriguez gave Machete [[Film/{{Machete}} his own, very R-rated movie]], where he was very much ''not'' this trope.
* The T-Birds from both ''Film/{{Grease}}'' and ''Film/Grease2'' come off as this somewhat. They smoke and drink, but in general act more like arrogant bully wannabes than actual tough guys. The most violence committed is the shoving match at the dance in the first movie and the T-Birds [[HarmlessVillain ''throwing pies '']] at the Scorpions at the carnival. The only blood drawn in either movie is Frenchy piercing Sandy's ear.

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* [[EvilCounterpart The Moopets]] from ''Film/TheMuppets''. They're presented as seedy, lowlife thug types, but don't drink, smoke or swear (although we do see Miss Poogy sharpening a knife at one point, for unknown purposes).
* Film/{{Courageous}} is an interesting example in that being a Christian film, the cops are often shown doing pretty spectacular things (even with both stun-guns and real bullet-guns), minus the profanity and the smoking, drinking, etc. Except at the picnic where they do drink, just responsibly.
* Kelly Leak in the remake of ''Film/TheBadNewsBears'' somewhat comes off as this, despite the movie being PG-13. In the original film he smoked cigarettes, drove a motorcycle, and initially bullied some of the Bears. In the remake, however, he doesn't smoke, doesn't really have much of a bad attitude towards anybody except his former coach, that which is understandable, and his motorcycle is even replaced with a dirtbike.
* Latin American dubs of North American movies tend to turn out this way because those countries have stricter censorship standards than the United States or Canada when it comes to profanity. The Spanish-language dubs can't have the characters blurting "Jesus Christ" whenever they get flustered-- partly because of the strongly Catholic culture of those countries, and partly because [[LostInTranslation it's just not a common idiom in Spanish]]. Instead you'll hear really bad dudes shouting "''Cielos!''" ("Good heavens!") Even "Jiminy Christmas!" sounds too close to the real thing for some Latin American censors, and tends to be replaced with something even more absurd.
* Machete in the ''Film/SpyKids'' movies was about as badass as Creator/DannyTrejo could be allowed to be with the PG rating. This was later [[SubvertedTrope turned around]], though, once Creator/RobertRodriguez gave Machete [[Film/{{Machete}} his own, very R-rated movie]], where he was very much ''not'' this trope.
* The T-Birds from both ''Film/{{Grease}}'' and ''Film/Grease2'' come off as this somewhat. They smoke and drink, but in general act more like arrogant bully wannabes than actual tough guys. The most violence committed is the shoving match at the dance in the first movie and the T-Birds [[HarmlessVillain ''throwing pies '']] at the Scorpions at the carnival. The only blood drawn in either movie is Frenchy piercing Sandy's ear.
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* Leeroy Brown in ''Film/CrocodileDundeeII''. He has a reputation at the community bar for his tough-guy demeanor and for selling what the bartender maintains is illicit substances. Turns out the "heavy shit" he regularly sells is nothing worse than simple office supplies, and his gangsteresque persona is just an act to live up to the pop cultural reputation of his name. However, he ''does'' have connections with genuine tough guys who he enlists to help Mick rescue Sue.


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* [[EvilCounterpart The Moopets]] from ''Film/TheMuppets''. They're presented as seedy, lowlife thug types, but don't drink, smoke or swear (although we do see Miss Poogy sharpening a knife at one point, for unknown purposes).
* Film/{{Courageous}} is an interesting example in that being a Christian film, the cops are often shown doing pretty spectacular things (even with both stun-guns and real bullet-guns), minus the profanity and the smoking, drinking, etc. Except at the picnic where they do drink, just responsibly.
* Kelly Leak in the remake of ''Film/TheBadNewsBears'' somewhat comes off as this, despite the movie being PG-13. In the original film he smoked cigarettes, drove a motorcycle, and initially bullied some of the Bears. In the remake, however, he doesn't smoke, doesn't really have much of a bad attitude towards anybody except his former coach, that which is understandable, and his motorcycle is even replaced with a dirtbike.
* Latin American dubs of North American movies tend to turn out this way because those countries have stricter censorship standards than the United States or Canada when it comes to profanity. The Spanish-language dubs can't have the characters blurting "Jesus Christ" whenever they get flustered-- partly because of the strongly Catholic culture of those countries, and partly because [[LostInTranslation it's just not a common idiom in Spanish]]. Instead you'll hear really bad dudes shouting "''Cielos!''" ("Good heavens!") Even "Jiminy Christmas!" sounds too close to the real thing for some Latin American censors, and tends to be replaced with something even more absurd.
* Machete in the ''Film/SpyKids'' movies was about as badass as Creator/DannyTrejo could be allowed to be with the PG rating. This was later [[SubvertedTrope turned around]], though, once Creator/RobertRodriguez gave Machete [[Film/{{Machete}} his own, very R-rated movie]], where he was very much ''not'' this trope.
* The T-Birds from both ''Film/{{Grease}}'' and ''Film/Grease2'' come off as this somewhat. They smoke and drink, but in general act more like arrogant bully wannabes than actual tough guys. The most violence committed is the shoving match at the dance in the first movie and the T-Birds [[HarmlessVillain ''throwing pies '']] at the Scorpions at the carnival. The only blood drawn in either movie is Frenchy piercing Sandy's ear.
* Leeroy Brown in ''Film/CrocodileDundeeII''. He has a reputation at the community bar for his tough-guy demeanor and for selling what the bartender maintains is illicit substances. Turns out the "heavy shit" he regularly sells is nothing worse than simple office supplies, and his gangsteresque persona is just an act to live up to the pop cultural reputation of his name. However, he ''does'' have connections with genuine tough guys who he enlists to help Mick rescue Sue.
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5th Dec '16 9:55:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* Kelly Leak in the remake of ''The Bad News Bears'' somewhat comes off as this, despite the movie being PG-13. In the original film he smoked cigarettes, drove a motorcycle, and initially bullied some of the Bears. In the remake, however, he doesn't smoke, doesn't really have much of a bad attitude towards anybody except his former coach, that which is understandable, and his motorcycle is even replaced with a dirtbike.

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* Kelly Leak in the remake of ''The Bad News Bears'' ''Film/TheBadNewsBears'' somewhat comes off as this, despite the movie being PG-13. In the original film he smoked cigarettes, drove a motorcycle, and initially bullied some of the Bears. In the remake, however, he doesn't smoke, doesn't really have much of a bad attitude towards anybody except his former coach, that which is understandable, and his motorcycle is even replaced with a dirtbike.



* Leeroy Brown in ''Film/CrocodileDundee II''. He has a reputation at the community bar for his tough-guy demeanor and for selling what the bartender maintains is illicit substances. Turns out the "heavy shit" he regularly sells is nothing worse than simple office supplies, and his gangsteresque persona is just an act to live up to the pop cultural reputation of his name. However, he ''does'' have connections with genuine tough guys who he enlists to help Mick rescue Sue.

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* Leeroy Brown in ''Film/CrocodileDundee II''.''Film/CrocodileDundeeII''. He has a reputation at the community bar for his tough-guy demeanor and for selling what the bartender maintains is illicit substances. Turns out the "heavy shit" he regularly sells is nothing worse than simple office supplies, and his gangsteresque persona is just an act to live up to the pop cultural reputation of his name. However, he ''does'' have connections with genuine tough guys who he enlists to help Mick rescue Sue.



* There is a Creator/DisneyXD sitcom called ''ImInTheBand'' that is constructed entirely from this trope. It's kinda like Van Halen starring in ''Series/FullHouse''.

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* There is a Creator/DisneyXD sitcom called ''ImInTheBand'' ''Series/ImInTheBand'' that is constructed entirely from this trope. It's kinda like Van Halen starring in ''Series/FullHouse''.
5th Dec '16 9:54:10 AM Morgenthaler
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This character type appears in child-friendly works. They are supposed to be a supreme {{Badass}}, but are unfortunately hampered by their target audience. They are as much [[Film/DieHard John McClane]] as can be squeezed by the censors, and they are often much tougher than their companions. Still, they are usually not allowed to smoke, [[TheAlcoholic drink]], [[ReallyGetsAround bed numerous people]], [[SirSwearsALot swear]], or do too much fighting or killing, and that is quite a list of hurdles to making them a rough-edged [[Film/DieHard Mister Falcon]].

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This character type appears in child-friendly works. They are supposed to be a supreme {{Badass}}, badass, but are unfortunately hampered by their target audience. They are as much [[Film/DieHard John McClane]] as can be squeezed by the censors, and they are often much tougher than their companions. Still, they are usually not allowed to smoke, [[TheAlcoholic drink]], [[ReallyGetsAround bed numerous people]], [[SirSwearsALot swear]], or do too much fighting or killing, and that is quite a list of hurdles to making them a rough-edged [[Film/DieHard Mister Falcon]].



* Seto Kaiba in the 4Kids dub of ''Anime/YuGiOh!'' suffered this, or at least to the degree that someone who plays [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries children's card games]] can be {{Badass}}. The heavy censorship in the show prevented him from beating people with his apparent martial arts skill or jamming guns with a card tossed in the air (among other non-gaming related [=badass=] deeds).

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* Seto Kaiba in the 4Kids dub of ''Anime/YuGiOh!'' suffered this, or at least to the degree that someone who plays [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries children's card games]] can be {{Badass}}.badass. The heavy censorship in the show prevented him from beating people with his apparent martial arts skill or jamming guns with a card tossed in the air (among other non-gaming related [=badass=] deeds).



* Mister Stuart in {{Sonic X}}. He is the [[BadassTeacher teacher of Chris who can give a group of agents a beating]]. This was cut out by 4kids, but the Mister Stuart in the Japanese Version is an all-around {{Badass}}.

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* Mister Stuart in {{Sonic X}}. He is the [[BadassTeacher teacher of Chris who can give a group of agents a beating]]. This was cut out by 4kids, but the Mister Stuart in the Japanese Version is an all-around {{Badass}}.badass.



** Wolf O'Donnell with his dramatic "What the [[GoshDangItToHeck HECK]]!?". ''Videogame/StarFoxAssault'' and ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' veer him more into legit {{Badass}} territory, his vocabulary doesn't get any harsher than calling people idiots or weaklings however, and NeverSayDie is in full effect.

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** Wolf O'Donnell with his dramatic "What the [[GoshDangItToHeck HECK]]!?". ''Videogame/StarFoxAssault'' and ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' veer him more into legit {{Badass}} badass territory, his vocabulary doesn't get any harsher than calling people idiots or weaklings however, and NeverSayDie is in full effect.
28th Aug '16 5:53:10 PM pinkdalek
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Compare CluelessAesop, another trope where being kid-friendly can get in the way. RuleAbidingRebel is when a character doesn't even try to come off as this. This character may also use ParentheticalSwearing and/or {{Unusual Euphemism}}s.

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Compare CluelessAesop, another trope where being kid-friendly can get in the way. RuleAbidingRebel is when a character doesn't even try to come off as this. RatedGForGangsta is when a genuinely edgy public figure turns themselves into one of these for marketing reasons. This character may also use ParentheticalSwearing and/or {{Unusual Euphemism}}s.
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