History Main / AudienceAlienatingPremise

25th Jun '17 10:21:51 AM comicwriter
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* Takako Shimura (the creator of the above ''Manga/WanderingSon'') has a history of this apparently. A lot of GirlsLove fans will complain ''Manga/AoiHana'' is "too boring". It's more of a manga ''about'' a lesbian than a lesbian romance series.

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* Takako Shimura (the creator of the above ''Manga/WanderingSon'') has a history of this apparently. A lot of GirlsLove fans will complain ''Manga/AoiHana'' is "too boring". It's more of a realistic SliceOfLife manga ''about'' a lesbian than a an idealized lesbian romance series.
25th Jun '17 8:15:48 AM comicwriter
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* ''Girlboss'' was a Creator/{{Netflix}} series about a snarky young hipster who starts her own company after being fired from her job. The problem is, one of the main plot points was that the protagonist was extremely smug, rude and generally unlikable, which made it very hard to root for her. It ended up being cancelled after just one season.
24th Jun '17 2:25:18 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/{{Drakengard}}'' is set in an extremely [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] dark fantasy setting, with its main character being a sadistic mass murderer, and his companions being his haughty misanthropic dragon, a [[EatsBabies baby-eating]] cannibal elf woman, and the most sympathetic character being a blind priest who is implied to be a {{pedophile|priest}}. And then there's the gameplay. Monotonous and repetitive combat on the ground, with enemies with too much HP for that style of play, and in the sky, the controls for the dragon are quite possibly the worst. When you actually want to play this for the story but the controls are so flighty (no pun intended) in flight and the gameplay is so boring on the ground, it makes things even harder to stay invested. When asked about why the game was the way it was, director and writer Creator/TaroYoko said that he felt it was important to stand out from the likes of ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' and ''Franchise/DragonQuest'', since there was no point in competing with them. He was proven right as the game, despite falling into DarknessInducedAudienceApathy for most people, did win a small but dedicated cult following precisely ''because'' it was different from other games, and the series has continued on since.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Drakengard}}'' is set in an extremely [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] dark fantasy setting, with its main character being a sadistic mass murderer, and his companions being his haughty misanthropic dragon, a [[EatsBabies baby-eating]] cannibal elf woman, and the most sympathetic character being a blind priest who is implied to be a {{pedophile|priest}}. And then there's the gameplay. Monotonous and repetitive combat on the ground, with enemies with too much HP for that style of play, and in the sky, the controls for the dragon are quite possibly the worst. When you actually want to play this for the story but the controls are so flighty (no pun intended) in flight and the gameplay is so boring on the ground, it makes things even harder to stay invested. When asked about why the game was the way it was, director and writer Creator/TaroYoko said that he felt it was important to stand out from the likes of ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' and ''Franchise/DragonQuest'', ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'', since there was no point in competing with them. He was proven right as the game, despite falling into DarknessInducedAudienceApathy for most people, did win a small but dedicated cult following precisely ''because'' it was different from other games, and the series has continued on since.
19th Jun '17 5:28:17 AM starofjusticev21
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* While ''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}'' could easily qualify with being best-known for his videos dissecting {{anime}} down to the most picayune details, he also made [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G30xZxJLR8U a video]] once about averting this with his views on why the premise is one of the least important criteria for evaluating a show, where he talks about good shows that have weak or strange-sounding premises and bad shows with intriguing premises.

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* While ''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}'' could easily qualify with being best-known for his videos dissecting {{anime}} down to the most picayune details, he also made [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G30xZxJLR8U a video]] once about averting this with his views on why the premise is one of the least important criteria for evaluating a show, where he talks about good shows that have weak or strange-sounding premises and bad shows with intriguing premises.
19th Jun '17 3:07:23 AM pinkdalek
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* This is cited by many as the reason for the era of BubblegumMusic lasting barely two years. The basic premise of bubblegum was that it was music to sell to children who 'couldn't listen to Music/TheBeatles any more because they didn't understand the drug references', but the low curation of the genre (with songs written by bored twenty-somethings) combined with the arty pop style of the late 60s meant that the lyrics were often too dark, sexual and lysergic for parents to allow their kids to listen to it, while the grownups were happy listening to real psychrock instead of the watered down version. Numerous bubblegum acts used their fame to gain full creative control of their output and put out bizarre albums no-one wanted, often with psychedelic/experimental (Music/TheMonkees) or [[ChristianRock apocalyptic Christian]] themes (Music/TheOsmonds and Music/TheCowsills) that served as NightmareFuel for the target audience of eleven-year-olds. Serious music nerds who might have been interested in the OutsiderMusic elements wouldn't be caught dead listening to something so uncool as a manufactured band to sell records to children. You couldn't even crush on a lot of bubblegum artists, since many were session musicians if not [[Comics/ArchieComics literal cartoon characters]]. Even now, people arguing for the genre's artistic legitimacy mostly cite its influence on future genres like {{Disco}} and PowerPop, rather than as something you can actually listen to and enjoy on its own merit, even if you are under 12.
18th Jun '17 7:52:41 AM Sakubara
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* ''Kodomo no Jikan'' is about a pre-pubescent girl who falls in love with her teacher, and acts overtly sexual to get his attention, which you wouldn't expect to do well in the US. It didn't get a chance to -- it was canceled when the licensing company learned how bookstores and distributors would react: by canceling orders. In much of the Western world, owning something like this could theoretically get you ''thrown in jail''. The US release was also slated to have the audience-alienating ''title'' of "[[Literature/{{Lolita}} Nymphet]]", which was requested by the author since Seven Seas couldn't use the original [translated] title of "A Child's Time". The series also deals very bluntly with touchy subjects such as incest/WifeHusbandry, sexual development in children, and hitting puberty abnormally early, which probably alienated readers even further. A kickstarter was later founded and completed to bring the whole series to America regardless of what happened the last time. One wonders how well this would go...

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* ''Kodomo no Jikan'' is about a pre-pubescent girl who falls in love with her teacher, and acts overtly sexual to get his attention, which you wouldn't expect to do well in the US. It didn't get a chance to -- it was canceled when the licensing company learned how bookstores and distributors would react: by canceling orders. In much of the Western world, owning something like this could theoretically get you ''thrown in jail''. The US release was also slated to have the audience-alienating ''title'' of "[[Literature/{{Lolita}} Nymphet]]", which was requested by the author since Seven Seas couldn't use the original [translated] title of "A Child's Time". The series also deals very bluntly with touchy subjects such as incest/WifeHusbandry, sexual development in children, and hitting puberty abnormally early, which probably alienated readers even further. A kickstarter Kickstarter was later founded and completed to bring the whole series to America regardless of what happened the last time. One wonders how well this would go...go...
** The result of the Kickstarter, you ask? '''[[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-06/kodomo-no-jikan-manga-kickstarter-campaign-ends-with-usd185725/.104004 The most successful graphic novel Kickstarter of all time]]'''! Yep you read that right.
18th Jun '17 7:46:52 AM Sakubara
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** Even with the revival of the English edition of the novel (and even the anime being re-released with a dub), it's fair to say that it's still not nearly as popular in the West due to its premise alone.

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** Even with the revival of the English edition of the novel manga (and even the anime being re-released with a dub), dub and recieving '''omnbius editions'''), it's fair to say that it's still not nearly as popular in the West due to its premise alone.
17th Jun '17 11:09:29 PM Nulono
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* ''WesternAnimation/FoodFight'' is basically an extended homage to ''Film/{{Casablanca}}'' starring advertising mascots and featuring loads of ToiletHumour and sex jokes... and it's aimed towards ''children''. Many critics note that the film seems to have no idea who it's trying to appeal to. And that's not even going into the horrendous animation that practically makes the film look [[UncannyValley eye-gouging]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/FoodFight'' is basically an extended homage to ''Film/{{Casablanca}}'' starring advertising mascots and featuring loads of ToiletHumour and sex jokes... and it's aimed towards ''children''. Many critics note that the film seems to have no idea who whom it's trying to appeal to. And that's not even going into the horrendous animation that practically makes the film look [[UncannyValley eye-gouging]].
17th Jun '17 4:58:37 PM starofjusticev21
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* While ''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}'' could easily qualify with his series about dissecting {{anime}} down to the most picayune details, he also made [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G30xZxJLR8U a video]] once about averting this with his views on why the premise is one of the least important criteria for evaluating a show, where he talks about good shows that have weak or strange-sounding premises and bad shows with intriguing premises.

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* While ''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}'' could easily qualify with being best-known for his series about videos dissecting {{anime}} down to the most picayune details, he also made [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G30xZxJLR8U a video]] once about averting this with his views on why the premise is one of the least important criteria for evaluating a show, where he talks about good shows that have weak or strange-sounding premises and bad shows with intriguing premises.
16th Jun '17 6:42:54 PM CheeseDogX
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* ''Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus'': In hindsight it's almost a miracle that this show ever got made and managed to find an audience. Why would anyone want to watch a comedy show where half of the time [[AntiHumor the sketches go nowhere and punch lines are almost non-existent]]? In every episode confusing things happen at random and without any sense of context or continuity. Sometimes the show appears to end, but still goes on for several minutes. Other times it seems as if another show is playing. There's a lot of male crossdressing and homosexual innuendo (back in the 1960s and 1970s [[ValuesDissonance far more audience alienating than nowadays]]). [[ViewersAreGeniuses Many intellectual references are made, often to very obscure stuff that would make an encyclopaedia come in handy]]. And several scenes are intercut with amateuristic cut-and-paste cartoons that border between the macabre and the grotesque. Indeed, the general public didn't know what to think of it. Most of the time the studio audience hardly snickers. Even the BBC tried to axe and boycott the show several times, even going so far to think of erasing all seasons in 1975. [[NoExportForYou And how do you export this bizarre series to foreign countries]]? Apart from the sheer bizarreness mentioned earlier, a lot of jokes refer [[IAmVeryBritish to things only British people would get]] (and only those [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece who remember the late '60s and early '70s]] at that). But, despite all odds, a cult following came about and [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff the show caught on outside the UK as well]]. Still, for many years they [[LoveItOrHateIt polarized a majority of the audience]] and the Pythons were amazed that several decades later public opinion has changed so drastically that suddenly they have became [[VindicatedByHistory the darling boys of comedy]]. Though, arguably, most of their fanbase is comprised of people only familiar with their more accessible films, especially ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail''.

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* ''Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus'': In hindsight it's almost a miracle that this show ever got made and managed to find an audience. Why would anyone want to watch a comedy show where half of the time [[AntiHumor the sketches go nowhere and punch lines are almost non-existent]]? In every episode confusing things happen at random and without any sense of context or continuity. Sometimes the show appears to end, but still goes on for several minutes. Other times it seems as if another show is playing. There's a lot of male crossdressing and homosexual innuendo (back in the 1960s and 1970s [[ValuesDissonance far more audience alienating than nowadays]]). [[ViewersAreGeniuses Many intellectual references are made, often to very obscure stuff that would make an encyclopaedia come in handy]]. And several scenes are intercut with amateuristic cut-and-paste cartoons that border between the macabre and the grotesque. Indeed, the general public didn't know what to think of it. Most of the time the studio audience hardly snickers. Even the BBC tried to axe and boycott the show several times, even going so far to think of erasing all seasons in 1975. [[NoExportForYou And how do you export this bizarre series to foreign countries]]? Apart from the sheer bizarreness mentioned earlier, a lot of jokes refer [[IAmVeryBritish to things only British people would get]] (and only those [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece who remember the late '60s and early '70s]] at that). But, despite all odds, a cult following came about and [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff the show caught on outside the UK as well]]. Still, for many years they [[LoveItOrHateIt polarized a majority of the audience]] and the Pythons were amazed that several decades later public opinion has changed so drastically that suddenly they have became [[VindicatedByHistory the darling boys of comedy]]. Though, arguably, most of their fanbase is comprised of people only familiar with their more accessible films, especially ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail''. The cast was fully aware of this, as well. In an interview, John Cleese said he was in makeup with Michael Palin and said "Do you realize this could be the first comedy in the history of British television where no one laughs?" Palin reportedly responded "I was just thinking the same thing."
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