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31st Dec '16 4:34:12 PM comicwriter
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* Before ''Soul Calibur 4'', there was ''Star Wars: Masters of Teräs Käsi'', which was basically just ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'' but with Star Wars characters. To keep the Jedi and Sith characters from being {{Game Breaker}}s, lightsabers were essentially treated like clubs or baseball bats.
* In the comics, Comicbook/{{Wolverine}}'s claws are lethal, and can cut through almost any material as easily as a hot knife through butter. In fighting games like the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' series or ''VideoGame/XMenNextDimension'', his claws basically act as extensions of his fists.

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* Before ''Soul Calibur 4'', there was ''Star Wars: Masters of Teräs Käsi'', which was basically just ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'' but with Star Wars characters. To keep the Jedi and Sith characters from being {{Game Breaker}}s, lightsabers were essentially treated like clubs or baseball bats.
* In the comics, Comicbook/{{Wolverine}}'s claws are lethal, and can cut through almost any material as easily as a hot knife through butter. In fighting games like the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' series series, ''VideoGame/MarvelNemesisRiseOfTheImperfects'' or ''VideoGame/XMenNextDimension'', his claws basically act as extensions of his fists.
31st Dec '16 2:43:44 PM comicwriter
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* Before ''Soul Calibur 4'', there was ''Star Wars: Masters of Teräs Käsi'', which was basically just ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'' but with Star Wars characters. To keep the Jedi and Sith characters from being {{Game Breaker}}s, lightsabers were essentially treated like clubs or baseball bats.
* In the comics, Comicbook/{{Wolverine}}'s claws are lethal, and can cut through almost any material as easily as a hot knife through butter. In fighting games like the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' series or ''VideoGame/XMenNextDimension'', his claws basically act as extensions of his fists.
30th Dec '16 6:44:58 PM jormis29
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* The villains in ''Film/JohnnyEnglish'' create [[spoiler:a mind control chemical that eventually kills its victim. However, the titular character manages to survive it at the end of the film.]]

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* The villains in ''Film/JohnnyEnglish'' ''Film/JohnnyEnglishReborn'' create [[spoiler:a mind control chemical that eventually kills its victim. However, the titular character manages to survive it at the end of the film.]]
30th Dec '16 6:36:30 PM jormis29
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* Weapons in ''Left4Dead'' can take out most zombies with a few shots/hits, but shooting a teammate will cause far less damage unless you're on HarderThanHard, where they take the full numbers and a single shotgun blast can incapacitate someone at full health. Played straight in ''VideoGame/Left4Dead2'' with the melee weapons, however: while for the regular-sized infected they're a OneHitKill and even a OneHitPolykill on hordes, they're a love tap on other survivors.

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* Weapons in ''Left4Dead'' ''VideoGame/Left4Dead'' can take out most zombies with a few shots/hits, but shooting a teammate will cause far less damage unless you're on HarderThanHard, where they take the full numbers and a single shotgun blast can incapacitate someone at full health. Played straight in ''VideoGame/Left4Dead2'' with the melee weapons, however: while for the regular-sized infected they're a OneHitKill and even a OneHitPolykill on hordes, they're a love tap on other survivors.



* In ''Tenchu 2'', you get to battle some bosses early on in unwinnable fights; once the boss' health drops under a certain value, the fight will stop and a cutscene will play. It happens even if you enter a cheatcode to deal 100 damage per strike and clearly kill the boss altogether before the cutscene triggers.
* VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight. Batman shoves a thug headfirst into a fusebox; Unconscious. Red Hood shoves a thug headfirst into a fusebox; Death.

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* In ''Tenchu ''VideoGame/{{Tenchu}} 2'', you get to battle some bosses early on in unwinnable fights; once the boss' health drops under a certain value, the fight will stop and a cutscene will play. It happens even if you enter a cheatcode to deal 100 damage per strike and clearly kill the boss altogether before the cutscene triggers.
* VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight.''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight''. Batman shoves a thug headfirst into a fusebox; Unconscious. Red Hood shoves a thug headfirst into a fusebox; Death.
29th Dec '16 5:16:53 PM Theokal3
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* In ''TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful'', most weapons provided by Fight Charms like Kensai and Levinbolt have the magic property of alternating between two modes: one where they inflict lethal damages, and one where they merely cause bashing damages. This allows Princesses to reliably use their weapon while fighting an opponent they do not wish to kill, yet still be able to use lethal force against creatures like [[TheHeartless Darkspawns]] who cannot be redeemed.
5th Dec '16 2:43:00 AM DustSnitch
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** [[BadAss Well, obviously, Zenkichi]] [[StrongFleshWeakSteel is tougher than a battleship.]]

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** [[BadAss Well, obviously, Zenkichi]] Zenkichi [[StrongFleshWeakSteel is tougher than a battleship.]]
16th Jul '16 4:30:07 PM 1810072342
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Energy attacks are great for this, because the audience has no idea of what it's like to be hit by a ki blast and as a result it can do whatever it needs to do. Additionally, energy attacks often depend on how fine the user's control of the technique is - obviously there is skill involved in swinging a sword too, but a sword is objectively sharp whereas the hero may only have gathered enough energy for a haphazard, ineffective blast that time.

This is where an obsession with {{Power Level}}s can be a disadvantage - if you've given the audience a statistic that says the character should be able to do (or withstand) a stronger attack than that, they're going to start asking questions if they then couldn't.
30th Jun '16 5:12:37 PM Doug86
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* ''XenaWarriorPrincess'': Xena's chakram is the TropeCodifier. It killed enemies or knocked them out, according to RuleOfDrama... occasionally in the same episode. Occasionally in the same ''throw''. (Though it was always lethal if she used it as a melee weapon.) It's usually used as a non-lethal PrecisionGuidedBoomerang, but on occasion, we've seen it cut through rope, wood and human body parts. Callisto managed to throw it hard enough to ''go through Xena's sheathed sword and into her back.'' Many fans simply figure that there's a button, somewhere on the chakram, that turns it sharp.

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* ''XenaWarriorPrincess'': ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'': Xena's chakram is the TropeCodifier. It killed enemies or knocked them out, according to RuleOfDrama... occasionally in the same episode. Occasionally in the same ''throw''. (Though it was always lethal if she used it as a melee weapon.) It's usually used as a non-lethal PrecisionGuidedBoomerang, but on occasion, we've seen it cut through rope, wood and human body parts. Callisto managed to throw it hard enough to ''go through Xena's sheathed sword and into her back.'' Many fans simply figure that there's a button, somewhere on the chakram, that turns it sharp.
29th Jun '16 4:13:54 PM Anddrix
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** In the [[BaseBreaker 4th Edition]] you can declare any attack to be retroactively non-lethal, up to and including a ''disintegrate'' spell.

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** In the [[BaseBreaker 4th Edition]] Edition you can declare any attack to be retroactively non-lethal, up to and including a ''disintegrate'' spell.
12th Jun '16 10:22:11 PM Gamermaster
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* [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', most notably in ''[[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS StrikerS]]''. Everyone uses 'magic bullets', which are explicitly stated to be as lethal as they need to be -- that being one of the reasons why Mid-Childa outlawed old-fashioned 'slug-thrower' weapons and became a magic-driven society. Thanks to that, Nanoha is able to repeatedly pull off her signature 'befriend by superior firepower' trick without worrying about accidentally killing someone...

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* [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', most notably in ''[[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS StrikerS]]''. Everyone uses 'magic bullets', magic, which are is explicitly stated to be as lethal as they need it needs to be -- that being one of the reasons why Mid-Childa outlawed old-fashioned 'slug-thrower' weapons and became a magic-driven society. Thanks to that, Nanoha is able to repeatedly pull off her signature 'befriend by superior firepower' trick without worrying about accidentally killing someone...
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