History Main / ArmiesAreEvil

27th May '17 7:48:07 AM valar55
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This trope is a relative of AncientConspiracy, GovernmentConspiracy, and NukeEm, and is often the mirror image of ScienceIsBad, unless the Science in question was a military research project to begin with. It is often commanded by GeneralRipper, and formed of [[SociopathicSoldier Sociopathic Soldiers]]. This Army will sometimes, in relatively rare circumstances, make use of [[WeHaveReserves Human Wave Tactics]] ... rare because while civilians are cheap and expendable, good soldiers are not. At least, to the Army.

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This trope is a relative of AncientConspiracy, GovernmentConspiracy, and NukeEm, and is often the mirror image of ScienceIsBad, unless the Science science in question was a military research project to begin with. It is often commanded by GeneralRipper, and formed of [[SociopathicSoldier Sociopathic Soldiers]]. This Army will sometimes, in relatively rare circumstances, make use of [[WeHaveReserves Human Wave Tactics]] ... rare because while civilians are cheap and expendable, good soldiers are not. At least, to the Army.
16th May '17 3:35:39 PM Frankencastle
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* Major Aohi of the National Defense Ministry and the JSDF from Manga/DeadmanWonderland. To better clarify, Major Aohi is secretly funding the titular prison and is willing to turn a blind eye to psycho prison warden's Tamki's illegal actions in exchange for the production of obedient disposable super-soldiers, [[spoiler:the Forgeries]].
-->'''Tamaki''': What an awfully anachronistic idea. Turning criminals into disposable soldiers. Typical military inefficiency.

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* Major Aohi of the National Defense Ministry and the JSDF from Manga/DeadmanWonderland. To better clarify, Major Aohi is the one secretly funding the titular prison and is perfectly willing to turn a blind eye to psycho prison warden's Tamki's illegal actions in exchange for the production of an army of obedient disposable super-soldiers, [[spoiler:the Forgeries]].
-->'''Tamaki''': What an awfully anachronistic idea. Turning criminals into disposable soldiers. [[ArmiesAreevil Typical military inefficiency. inefficiency]]. But... who cares as long as we get research funding.
16th May '17 3:32:47 PM Frankencastle
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* Major Aohi of the National Defense Ministry and the JSDF from Manga/DeadmanWonderland. To better clarify, Major Aohi is secretly funding the titular prison and is willing to turn a blind eye to psycho prison warden's Tamki's illegal actions in exchange for the production of obedient disposable super-soldiers, [[spoiler:the Forgeries]].
-->'''Tamaki''': What an awfully anachronistic idea. Turning criminals into disposable soldiers. Typical military inefficiency.
8th Apr '17 4:16:42 PM Frankencastle
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* The American military in ''Anime/BloodPlus''. To explain: one of Diva's Chevaliers happens to be an infiltrator on the Army and has no problem using his rank to send kill squads around, and the military itself performs experiments to create Chimera super-soldiers (which is the reason the Schiff were created and decide to assist said Chevalier).



* Anime/GhostInTheShellArise: The JSDF in general and the JGSDF in particular are shown to be pretty damn shady. True, they're in rather awkward situation (and financial black hole), what with the grand reorganization and mass downsizing after the war, but it's not really a justification for putting their cyborgs into debt peonage, engaging in illegal arms deals, street murder, covert foreign interventions, general corruption and whatnot.

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* Anime/GhostInTheShellArise: The JSDF in general and the JGSDF in particular Anime/GhostInTheShellArise are shown to be pretty damn shady. True, they're in rather awkward situation (and financial black hole), what with the grand reorganization and mass downsizing after the war, but it's not really a justification for putting their cyborgs into debt peonage, engaging in illegal arms deals, street murder, covert foreign interventions, general corruption and whatnot.
7th Apr '17 6:59:31 PM marcoasalazarm
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%%* The American military in ''Anime/BloodPlus''.

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%%* * The American military in ''Anime/BloodPlus''.''Anime/BloodPlus''. To explain: one of Diva's Chevaliers happens to be an infiltrator on the Army and has no problem using his rank to send kill squads around, and the military itself performs experiments to create Chimera super-soldiers (which is the reason the Schiff were created and decide to assist said Chevalier).
7th Apr '17 5:21:29 PM Frankencastle
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* The American military in ''Anime/BloodPlus''.

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* %%* The American military in ''Anime/BloodPlus''.


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* Anime/GhostInTheShellArise: The JSDF in general and the JGSDF in particular are shown to be pretty damn shady. True, they're in rather awkward situation (and financial black hole), what with the grand reorganization and mass downsizing after the war, but it's not really a justification for putting their cyborgs into debt peonage, engaging in illegal arms deals, street murder, covert foreign interventions, general corruption and whatnot.
11th Mar '17 2:57:33 PM nombretomado
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* The Creator/IrwinAllen disaster film ''Film/TheSwarm'' (1978) attempts this, with the military wanting to use pesticides that would damage the environment while MichaelCaine keeps suggesting other methods. Unfortunately the threat of the killer bees is so over-hyped (at one stage they cause the [[FailsafeFailure explosion of a nuclear power plant]]) that Caine's continuing refusal is hard to justify.

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* The Creator/IrwinAllen disaster film ''Film/TheSwarm'' (1978) attempts this, with the military wanting to use pesticides that would damage the environment while MichaelCaine Creator/MichaelCaine keeps suggesting other methods. Unfortunately the threat of the killer bees is so over-hyped (at one stage they cause the [[FailsafeFailure explosion of a nuclear power plant]]) that Caine's continuing refusal is hard to justify.
14th Feb '17 8:25:38 PM Taxima
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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', General Ironwood brings a portion of the Atlas Military with him as security for the Vytal Festival in Beacon Academy. Since the actions of the series BigBad are becoming noticeable, he feels that this is a sign of protection that will detour aggressors. BigGood Ozpin states that a guardian is a symbol of protection, while an army is a symbol of conflict. The masses will be on edge, wonder what threat a force so large is meant to fight, and their negativity will in turn [[EmotionEater attract the]] [[TheHeartless Grimm]].
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21st Jan '17 6:20:00 AM WillyFourEyes
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* In ''VideoGame/AdvanceWars: Days of Ruin'', the New Rubinelle Army is seen as this. While the ISR Army is [[SendInTheClones an army of clone soldiers]], there is absolutely no redeemable CO nor soldier within the ranks of the NRA. Greyfield's an [[GeneralFailure incompetent]] [[GeneralRipper butcher]], Waylon [[SmugSnake only cares about his own well-being]] and Davis is a [[DirtyCoward cowardly sycophant]].

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* In ''VideoGame/AdvanceWars: Days of Ruin'', the New Rubinelle Army is seen as this. While the ISR IDS Army is [[SendInTheClones an army of clone soldiers]], there is absolutely no redeemable CO nor soldier within the ranks of the NRA. Greyfield's an [[GeneralFailure incompetent]] [[GeneralRipper butcher]], Waylon [[SmugSnake only cares about his own well-being]] and Davis is a [[DirtyCoward cowardly sycophant]].
18th Dec '16 5:51:20 PM ANewBeginning
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** Not to mention the [[VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}} Talon Company]] and the [[VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}} Gunners]]. They have their delusions of being an elite crew of pseudo-military mercenaries, but through their ruthless behaviour, they're in reality just a murdering, thieving band of {{Jerkass}} Raiders with better equipment. They'll happily wipe out whole towns full of women and children if it means a job (or sometimes ''[[RapePillageAndBurn just for the sheer hell of it]]''), they never take prisoners (and conversely never surrender), and they can't be reasoned with. The Gunners aren't even above slavery, trying to buy a child from the [[PlayerCharacter Sole Survivor]] during a quest to return the kid to his parents - if you refuse, they come back and demand the kid ''and'' his parents be handed to them as property.

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** Not to mention the [[VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}} Talon Company]] and the [[VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}} Gunners]]. They have their delusions of being an elite crew of pseudo-military mercenaries, but through their ruthless behaviour, they're in reality just a murdering, thieving band of {{Jerkass}} Raiders with better equipment. They'll happily wipe out whole towns full of women and children if it means a job (or sometimes ''[[RapePillageAndBurn just for the sheer hell of it]]''), they never take prisoners (and conversely never surrender), and they can't be reasoned with. The Gunners aren't even above slavery, trying to buy a child from the [[PlayerCharacter Sole Survivor]] during a quest to return the kid to his parents - if you refuse, they come back and demand the kid ''and'' his parents be handed to them as property.
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