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14th Aug '16 7:57:49 PM PaulA
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* In ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'', all of the barons of Jackson's Whole are evil: the worst is Baron Ryoval, who is in the sexual slavery business and is an enthusiastic practitioner of ColdBloodedTorture, employing a number of [[TortureTechnician technicians]] to aid his hobby; his brother, Baron Fell, is a notorious arms dealer specializing in biological weapons, and Baron Bharaputra has a genetics clinic specializing in a procedure for the wealthy but aged, in which a young clone of them is produced, and then the clone's brain is ripped out and the original person's implanted instead).
** Though Baron Cordonah (whose daughter ends up marrying a {{Deuterotagonist}}) is pretty decent.
** However, Jacksonian barons aren't really aristocrats: they are at best unscrupulous plutocrats and at worst, mob kingpins. Given the hat of Jackson's Whole is "capitalism gone very, very bad".

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* In ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'', all of the barons of Jackson's Whole are evil: the worst is Baron Ryoval, who is in the sexual slavery business and is an enthusiastic practitioner of ColdBloodedTorture, employing a number of [[TortureTechnician technicians]] to aid his hobby; his brother, Baron Fell, is a notorious arms dealer specializing in biological weapons, weapons; and Baron Bharaputra has a genetics clinic specializing in a procedure for the wealthy but aged, in which a young clone of them is produced, and then the clone's brain is ripped out and the original person's implanted instead).
** Though Baron Cordonah (whose daughter ends up marrying a {{Deuterotagonist}}) is pretty decent.
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instead). However, Jacksonian barons aren't really aristocrats: they are at best unscrupulous plutocrats and at worst, mob kingpins. Given the The hat of Jackson's Whole is "capitalism gone very, very bad".
12th Aug '16 6:29:19 AM LadyJafaria
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** Discworld is full of all kinds of Lords and Ladies, including evil ones; the antagonist of ''Discworld/TheTruth'' is Lord de Worde (who's also [[spoiler: [[ArchnemesisDad the protagonist's father]]) Many of them are good, however, like Lady Sybil, or merely [[UpperClassTwit bumbling]]. Also from Discworld, ''The'' Lords and Ladies is a local name for TheFairFolk, and Discworld elves are ''not good at all''.

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** Discworld is full of all kinds of Lords and Ladies, including evil ones; the antagonist of ''Discworld/TheTruth'' is Lord de Worde (who's also [[spoiler: [[ArchnemesisDad the protagonist's father]]) father]]]]) Many of them are good, however, like Lady Sybil, or merely [[UpperClassTwit bumbling]]. Also from Discworld, ''The'' Lords and Ladies is a local name for TheFairFolk, and Discworld elves are ''not good at all''.
12th Aug '16 6:28:19 AM LadyJafaria
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** Discworld is full of all kinds of Lords and Ladies, including evil ones; the antagonist of ''Discworld/TheTruth'' is Lord de Worde (who's also [[spoiler: [[ArchnemesisDad the protagonist's father]]) Many of them are good, however, like Lady Sybil, or merely [[UpperClassTwit bumbling]]. Also from Discworld, ''The'' Lords and Ladies is a local name for TheFairFolk, and Discworld elves are ''not good at all''.
7th Aug '16 10:01:23 AM Morgenthaler
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* Aristocrats in VorkosiganSaga are an aversion, often coming across as [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Reasonable Authority Figures]]. The ones in the Time of Isolation and during the reigns of previous emperors were often bloodthirsty folks though.

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* Aristocrats in VorkosiganSaga Literature/VorkosiganSaga are an aversion, often coming across as [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Reasonable Authority Figures]]. The ones in the Time of Isolation and during the reigns of previous emperors were often bloodthirsty folks though.
4th Aug '16 3:08:37 AM Vir
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* [[VideoGame/JakAndDaxter Baron Praxis]]: LawfulEvil.
* The eponymous character in the InteractiveFiction game ''TheBaron'' - Evil [[spoiler:incarnation of the protagonist's incestuous desire for his daughter.]]

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* [[VideoGame/JakAndDaxter ''VideoGame/JakIIRenegade'': Baron Praxis]]: Praxis, LawfulEvil.
* The eponymous character in the InteractiveFiction game ''TheBaron'' ''VideoGame/TheBaron'' - Evil [[spoiler:incarnation of the protagonist's incestuous desire for his daughter.]]
2nd Aug '16 9:22:35 AM whereismytea
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* There are a lot of evil aristocrats of different flavours in ''Anime/{{Endride}}''. It's generally agreed that Delzaine was a fairly bad king (and an [[TheUsurper usurper]] to boot) as far as the common folk were impacted, but he held the kingdom together, and so the [[LaResistance Ignauts]] wanted to reason with him first rather than violently depose him. When he dies suddenly, society begins to collapse and the wicked petty lords start raiding villages and hoarding wealth and resources. The trope is averted, however, with Demetrio, the idealistic RebelLeader who is noble-born, and some of the lords that the Ignauts reportedly managed to recruit to their cause.
20th Jul '16 8:06:53 AM TimberRidge
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* Averted and subverted in the ''Literature/VillageTales'' series.
** '''Dukes:''' Charles, the Duke of Taunton in the series – former MajorlyAwesome Int Corps officer, Fellow of All Souls, military historian, and universal CoolUncle – is on the side of the angels (whether the angels are always on ''his'' side is another matter). So in his way is his ducal cousin (many times over, ever since the two titles originated in bastards who were the children of two Stuart mistresses who were cousins to one another) and neighbor, Christopher ("Kit"), Duke of Trowbridge & Warminster, who’s Nice But Dim.\\
On a rough equivalent, there’s Charles Taunton's HeterosexualLifePartner His Highness the Nawab of Hubli, who was the Duke's vice-captain on the Eton 1st [=XI=], Oxford Authentics, and OUCC: just as cunning, rather grander, and quite as much firmly on the side of good. (And equally impatient in getting good ''done''.)
*** The Tauntons and Trowbridges got their dukedoms through their [[TheCavalierYears ancestors]]' being [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfStuart Stuart]] [[BastardBastard bastards]], but the first dukes were, if not [[HeroicBastard heroic ones]], at least decent. (The ''second'' Duke of Taunton, though, called InUniverse "Henry the Trimmer," ''was'' a BastardBastard in character though himself legitimate.
** '''Marquesses:''' Rory, Marquess of Badenoch in the series, is a tall, gruff, stern, old-fashioned, and very formal Highland aristocrat, Calvinist in temperament but Anglican by [[UsefulNotes/HanoverStuartWars Jacobite]] inheritance, whose family has never quite got over reverting to the marquessate from a dukedom. He’s still a Good Man, though.\\
Equally, the Marquess of Breckland & Swaffham (whose son is the same-sex civil partner of the Duke of Trowbridge’s heir Lord Corsham, and who is himself nowadays in the same relation to Kit Trowbridge), is a thoroughly decent chap. Although much less cricket-obsessed than the Trowbridges and the Tauntons.
** '''Earls and Countesses:''' [[TheBrigadier Brigadier]] the Earl of Maynooth – Robin – is a devil-may-care Anglo-Irish nobleman … at first glance. He's not part of the UK military mission to Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe for nothing, though, and definitely a White Hat. [[EvilRedhead Even Though Ginger]].\\
The Earl and Countess of Freuchie are charming young Scots. Flora, Dowager Countess of Freuchie, could give her counterpart at [[Series/DowntonAbbey Downton]] points, and win in a walk.
** '''Barons:''' Hugo, Baron Mallerstang and Swarthfell, is an elderly but sharp ImpoverishedPatrician pushing a hundred in years. And a very good man, who has borne up under captivity (and a bayonet to the balls) on the Burma Railway, his wife's death, and the deaths in action of his two sons, who followed him into the Royal Artillery.\\
The baronage being the rank of life peers, the major character the Hon. Gwen (first Evans, then, the Hon. Mrs Maguire) has a father who was made a life peer, as The Baron Evans of Pont-y-Clun and Aintree, for Services to the Turf (and Gwen runs the local racing stud); and that formidable, if pleasant, scholar, Professor Millicent Lacy, is The Baroness Lacy, so created in recognition of her academic work. (The series to date seems, and is so regarded InUniverse, to be [[ShipTease giving her a good chance of becoming Duchess of Taunton]], mind you.)
** '''Baronets:''' Sir Thomas Douty averts the stock tropes applied to baronets (although Lady Douty was described, when alive, by the Duke, as the sort of woman whose do-gooding gave good works a bad name). He’s a mild little man – [[HenpeckedHusband less so now that he's a widower (wonder why)]] – who is the third baronet and formerly Something In the City; nowadays, he quite usefully assists the Duke in such community projects as [[RailEnthusiast restoring the steam railway]], recreating as a community trust the real ale brewery, and redoing the Victorian canal: and without, as the Duke would, spending like a drunken sailor.\\
As of ''Literature/{{Evensong}}'' and ''Literature/TheDayThouGavest'', a new character is also a baronet (and a former cavalry officer, with an [=MC=]), though he no longer claims the titles and honors: one of the new curates in the expanding benefice, the Revd. Gilbert Bohun.
** They are all simply ''people'' nowadays, whatever the old Barons Mallerstang or the second Duke of Taunton may have been like; and, according to the Duke of Taunton, who very much isn't, rather simple people, too:
--> '''The Duke, reflecting, as they all descend on him for a family funeral in ''Literature/{{Evensong}}'':''' … the wider Family were piling out of their various conveyances: the most backwoods of peers, the most rustic of gentry, the living arguments in favour of House of Lords reform and, frankly, of a Marxist revolution: kind, bumbling, decent, red-faced, and mostly as stupid as so many owls.
1st Jul '16 11:11:12 PM foxley
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* ''Literature/YoungSherlockHolmes'': Baron Maupertuis, the BigBad of ''Death Cloud'', is an EvilAlbino and EvilCripple, who is driven by a fanatical hatred of England and who plans to murder hundreds of thousands of British troops.
13th Jun '16 11:48:46 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/GeneStrattonPorter's ''Michael O'Halloran'', Leslie blames a woman's behavior on aping nobility, but Douglas corrects that only some of them are like that.

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* In Creator/GeneStrattonPorter's ''Michael O'Halloran'', ''Literature/MichaelOHalloran'', Leslie blames a woman's behavior on aping nobility, but Douglas corrects that only some of them are like that.



"A branch of them—possibly," conceded Douglas. "I know some titled and wealthy people who would be dumbfounded over that woman's ideas."

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"A branch of them—possibly," them--possibly," conceded Douglas. "I know some titled and wealthy people who would be dumbfounded over that woman's ideas.""''
13th Jun '16 9:10:08 PM Doug86
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* PlayedWith in the person of Baron Klaus Wulfenbach of Webcomic/GirlGenius. He is a brutal tyrant who obtained his empire on no other legal principle than having the biggest army, and is apparently willing to kill his best friend's daughter for being a threat to his kingdom's stability, but in a textbook example of TheExtremistWasRight, he also managed to maintain the rule of law over most of Europe for almost two decades and keep the common folk of his lands largely protected. He also provided his lands with a wide variety of communication and public works services, and kept at bay the [[BigBad Other]]. Finally, he does genuinely appear to love his son and apparently greatly misses his wife.

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* PlayedWith in the person of Baron Klaus Wulfenbach of Webcomic/GirlGenius.''Webcomic/GirlGenius''. He is a brutal tyrant who obtained his empire on no other legal principle than having the biggest army, and is apparently willing to kill his best friend's daughter for being a threat to his kingdom's stability, but in a textbook example of TheExtremistWasRight, he also managed to maintain the rule of law over most of Europe for almost two decades and keep the common folk of his lands largely protected. He also provided his lands with a wide variety of communication and public works services, and kept at bay the [[BigBad Other]]. Finally, he does genuinely appear to love his son and apparently greatly misses his wife.



* In the early {{Deryni}} timeline, Manfred Colquhoun Festil Tarquin [=MacInnis=], Baron of Marlor, is trouble. He's part of the [[RegentForLife corrupt council]], and with his colleagues launches a ''coup'' against King Javan Haldane. That third name of his doesn't bode well.

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* In the early {{Deryni}} Literature/{{Deryni}} timeline, Manfred Colquhoun Festil Tarquin [=MacInnis=], Baron of Marlor, is trouble. He's part of the [[RegentForLife corrupt council]], and with his colleagues launches a ''coup'' against King Javan Haldane. That third name of his doesn't bode well.
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