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13th Jun '16 11:48:46 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/GeneStrattonPorter's ''Michael O'Halloran'', Leslie blames a woman's behavior on aping nobility, but Douglas corrects that only some of them are like that.

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* In Creator/GeneStrattonPorter's ''Michael O'Halloran'', ''Literature/MichaelOHalloran'', Leslie blames a woman's behavior on aping nobility, but Douglas corrects that only some of them are like that.



"A branch of them—possibly," conceded Douglas. "I know some titled and wealthy people who would be dumbfounded over that woman's ideas."

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"A branch of them—possibly," them--possibly," conceded Douglas. "I know some titled and wealthy people who would be dumbfounded over that woman's ideas.""''
13th Jun '16 9:10:08 PM Doug86
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* PlayedWith in the person of Baron Klaus Wulfenbach of Webcomic/GirlGenius. He is a brutal tyrant who obtained his empire on no other legal principle than having the biggest army, and is apparently willing to kill his best friend's daughter for being a threat to his kingdom's stability, but in a textbook example of TheExtremistWasRight, he also managed to maintain the rule of law over most of Europe for almost two decades and keep the common folk of his lands largely protected. He also provided his lands with a wide variety of communication and public works services, and kept at bay the [[BigBad Other]]. Finally, he does genuinely appear to love his son and apparently greatly misses his wife.

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* PlayedWith in the person of Baron Klaus Wulfenbach of Webcomic/GirlGenius.''Webcomic/GirlGenius''. He is a brutal tyrant who obtained his empire on no other legal principle than having the biggest army, and is apparently willing to kill his best friend's daughter for being a threat to his kingdom's stability, but in a textbook example of TheExtremistWasRight, he also managed to maintain the rule of law over most of Europe for almost two decades and keep the common folk of his lands largely protected. He also provided his lands with a wide variety of communication and public works services, and kept at bay the [[BigBad Other]]. Finally, he does genuinely appear to love his son and apparently greatly misses his wife.



* In the early {{Deryni}} timeline, Manfred Colquhoun Festil Tarquin [=MacInnis=], Baron of Marlor, is trouble. He's part of the [[RegentForLife corrupt council]], and with his colleagues launches a ''coup'' against King Javan Haldane. That third name of his doesn't bode well.

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* In the early {{Deryni}} Literature/{{Deryni}} timeline, Manfred Colquhoun Festil Tarquin [=MacInnis=], Baron of Marlor, is trouble. He's part of the [[RegentForLife corrupt council]], and with his colleagues launches a ''coup'' against King Javan Haldane. That third name of his doesn't bode well.
31st May '16 6:48:22 AM Doug86
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** UsefulNotes/VladTheImpaler, on whom Dracula was based, [[RealityIsUnrealistic was actually a "voievod" or "domn" (meaning "lord" or "ruler")]]. Romanians didn't have the title of "prince" until UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne, and then it was just because a foreign house of noble kin came to rule. The "voievod" was initially a military title, sort of like the Duke -- in the beginning, the ruler was actually ruling only during times of war, the rest of the time, he was just a simple nobleman. Things had changed by the time UsefulNotes/VladTheImpaler came to rule, though. "Count" was a title more commonly used by the neighbouring Hungarian Empire, where Creator/BramStoker got most of his information from.

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** UsefulNotes/VladTheImpaler, on whom Dracula was based, [[RealityIsUnrealistic was actually a "voievod" or "domn" (meaning "lord" or "ruler")]]. Romanians didn't have the title of "prince" until UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, and then it was just because a foreign house of noble kin came to rule. The "voievod" was initially a military title, sort of like the Duke -- in the beginning, the ruler was actually ruling only during times of war, the rest of the time, he was just a simple nobleman. Things had changed by the time UsefulNotes/VladTheImpaler came to rule, though. "Count" was a title more commonly used by the neighbouring Hungarian Empire, where Creator/BramStoker got most of his information from.
29th May '16 8:16:43 PM Trying2CIt
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Other titles generally have a more neutral feel to them - '''Earls''' tend to be good but quite elderly and senile, while it is rare to see a Marquess in anything other than a particularly faithful historical adaptation. '''Baronets''' were quite often villains in both Victorian {{Melodrama}} and Wodehousian comedy (not to mention the Creator/GilbertAndSullivan operetta ''Theatre/{{Ruddigore}}''), probably due to the fact that baronetcies could be more or less openly bought, indicating that the character is not only NouveauRiche, but also [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]] and seeking to rise beyond his station (the worst social sin in Victorian Britain). Queens/Kings may be either good or evil. And, of course, EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses [[SubvertedTrope (or is it?)]].

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Other titles generally have a more neutral feel to them - '''Earls''' tend to be good but quite elderly and senile, while it is rare to see a Marquess '''Marquess''' in anything other than a particularly faithful historical adaptation. '''Baronets''' were quite often villains in both Victorian {{Melodrama}} and Wodehousian comedy (not to mention the Creator/GilbertAndSullivan operetta ''Theatre/{{Ruddigore}}''), probably due to the fact that baronetcies could be more or less openly bought, indicating that the character is not only NouveauRiche, but also [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]] and seeking to rise beyond his station (the worst social sin in Victorian Britain). Queens/Kings may be either good or evil. And, of course, EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses [[SubvertedTrope (or is it?)]].



Don't even get us started on '''[[TheEmperor Emperors]]''' or '''[[EvilChancellor Chancellors]]'''/ Good luck finding a '''Marquis''', though.

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Don't even get us started on '''[[TheEmperor Emperors]]''' or '''[[EvilChancellor Chancellors]]'''/ Chancellors]]'''. Good luck finding a '''Marquis''', though.
16th May '16 8:58:08 AM Doug86
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* Several conspirators in Creator/RobertEHoward's Literature/ConanTheBarbarian story in "Literature/ThePhoenixOnTheSword".

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* Several conspirators in Creator/RobertEHoward's Literature/ConanTheBarbarian Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian story in "Literature/ThePhoenixOnTheSword".
14th May '16 11:32:08 AM nombretomado
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The title '''Sir''' [[KnightInShiningArmor is the best of the lot]], being martial, unprepossessing, and upwardly mobile. [[KnightFever Even actors like to be called Sir]].

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The title '''Sir''' [[KnightInShiningArmor is the best of the lot]], being martial, unprepossessing, and upwardly mobile. [[KnightFever [[UsefulNotes/KnightFever Even actors like to be called Sir]].



For more information on the British title system, see KnightFever. Not to be confused with TheAristocrats, a "stock joke" based on this premise.

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For more information on the British title system, see KnightFever.UsefulNotes/KnightFever. Not to be confused with TheAristocrats, a "stock joke" based on this premise.
2nd May '16 8:02:15 PM Nikolinni
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* ''Literature/SpectralShadows'' both plays this straight and subverts it, mainly in Serial 11. A lot of the Towns' Ruling Family are rotten, corrupt, or otherwise self-serving people. There are a few notable inversions though, namely Sir Jon and Miss Sonny, the King and Queen of Suburbia, respectively.
29th Apr '16 11:30:57 PM direguy
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* ''VideoGame/EndlessLegend'': The Broken Lords story line has Marquis Suluzzo who encourages his people to continue on draining Dust from other living beings, and part of the story line quest involves taking him out.
29th Apr '16 8:29:47 PM konekootome
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* With the exceptions of Euphemia, Nunnally, Gino and Anya, there's nothing nice to say about the Britannian aristocracy in ''FanFic/MyMirrorSwordAndShield''. In the case of Lelouch's first Royal Guard, made of aristocratic second sons, they are actively incompetent. In the case of the Knights of Round and the conspirators who had Marianne assassinated, are actively malicious. Despite [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating Emperor]] [[ManipulativeBastard Lelouch's]] [[BestServedCold selfish]] [[{{Revenge}} reasons]] for it, everyone agrees that dissolving the aristocracy helped in the long run.
9th Apr '16 9:33:41 AM AsherTye
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* Played with in ''Literature/Discworld'' in the form or the Patrician of Ankh-Morpork, Lord Ventinari. Willing to use such tactics as assassinations, blackmail, and vague threats, Ventinari will often self identify as an evil tyrant who can do whatever he wants and only limits himself because it is intelligent to do so. Looking back at his reign, however, seems to say he honestly cares for his fellow man, as a whole if not individually, and tends to only screw over people who would game the system for their own benefit. He's been instrumental in putting people like Moist Von Lipwig, Samuel Vimes, and William DeWorde in positions of power where they can actively interfere with the various evil schemes that start off in the city.
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