History Main / ApocalypseNot

12th Nov '17 11:05:38 AM Jhonny
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** It's still dangerous to land mammals, however, since the edible plants have absorbed radioactive minerals.

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** It's still dangerous to land mammals, however, since the edible plants have absorbed radioactive minerals. Long lived apex predators like humans in particular couldn't survive there as the radioactive material accumulates (which is less of a problem for animals lower in the food chain or which only live single digit years anyway)
20th Oct '17 11:40:33 AM 017Bluefield
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** The Commonwealth presented in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' is even better off than New Vegas. During the Great War, in contrast to the utter carpet bombing Washington DC received, only ''a single'' nuclear missile was fired at Boston, and said missile ''missed'', landing several miles southwest of Natick instead of hitting the city proper. Skyscrapers are mostly intact and quite a few places even have running water and electricity, making the city and surrounding area a bastion of civilization rivaling the NCR on the west coast. However, the regional flora and fauna were still horribly mutated by the Black Rain, and the area the missile hit is now this nasty bit of irradiated wasteland called "the Glowing Sea", where exploring without some serious radiation protection is ill-advised.

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** The Commonwealth presented in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' ''VideoGame/Fallout4'' is even better off than New Vegas. During the Great War, in contrast to the utter carpet bombing Washington DC received, only ''a single'' nuclear missile was fired at Boston, and said missile ''missed'', landing several miles southwest of Natick instead of hitting the city proper. Skyscrapers are mostly intact and quite a few places even have running water and electricity, making the city and surrounding area a bastion of civilization rivaling the NCR on the west coast. However, the regional flora and fauna were still horribly mutated by the Black Rain, and the area the missile hit is now this nasty bit of irradiated wasteland called "the Glowing Sea", where exploring without some serious radiation protection is ill-advised.


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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' introduces players to a Hyrule ravaged by the Calamity a century ago. In the game's present, there are already a few settlements that are either untouched by the Calamity (e.g. Kakariko Village, Hateno Village), or have recovered. You can even help put together a new town.
21st Sep '16 3:01:02 AM Tron80
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* At the beginning of ''Fanfic/GhostsOfEvangelion'', Shinji and Asuka wander around ruins looking for food and potable water. As more and more people return from Instrumentality, civilization restores itself progressively. Five years after Third Impact the world seems relatively normal, although China and other countries are still struggling.
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4th Sep '16 1:10:47 PM StarSword
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* The ''Literature/MortalEngines'' novels suffered greatly from this, to the point that it seemed that the only thing that civilization had lost was the technology of the WaveMotionGun and modern era CD-Roms.

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* The ''Literature/MortalEngines'' novels suffered greatly from this, to the point that it seemed that the only thing that civilization had lost was the technology of the WaveMotionGun and modern era CD-Roms.[=CD-ROMs=].


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* ''Literature/TheAscendantKingdomsSaga'': The world's original state is notably MedievalEuropeanFantasy so there isn't as far to fall. Likely millions of people die from the FantasticNuke that starts the whole thing and from famine and plague, but it takes less than a year for warlords to begin asserting control of the chaos and people to start rebuilding.
6th May '16 3:03:44 AM IenHenzX
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*** Despite the intact infrastructure, however, the Commonwealth is still a relatively Downplayed example as much of Boston are still empty ruins populated by raiders, super mutants and other ne'er-do-wells. Despite environmentally being ApocalypseNot, order and society in Boston gradually collapsed in the weeks following the nuclear exchange, and most survivors of the riots and civil strife migrated to the surrounding countryside. It should also be noted that [[BigBad the Institute]] constantly monitors the Commonwealth and actively prevents attempts at forming any regional government [[KillEmAll by force.]] [[spoiler: If the Minutemen succeed in defeating the Institute and the [[TheFundamentalist Brotherhood]], it is implied that they will eventually form a new government on par with the NCR, bringing it closer to this trope.]]
7th Mar '16 4:00:25 PM poi99
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*** New Vegas itself, which is already considered to be relatively civilized, CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot entirely if it wasn't for a stroke of bad luck: [[spoiler: Mr. House saw the apocalypse coming, and actively prepared to defend the city from missile attack, but missed the deadline by one day. His defenses weren't running at full capacity. Regardless, he shot down every missile heading for Vegas except 11 (out of hundreds), and none of those hit densely populated areas. If his upgrades had finished, he would've had them all]].
** Incidentally, a number of people have pointed out that ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'''s devotion to the ScavengedPunk aesthetic [[FridgeLogic doesn't actually make a whole lot of sense]], given that it supposedly takes place ''two centuries'' AfterTheEnd; more than long enough for the descendants of survivors to be numerous and well-organized enough to start quarrying stone or making bricks.

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*** New Vegas itself, which is already considered to be relatively civilized, CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could have avoided destruction entirely if it wasn't for a stroke of bad luck: [[spoiler: Mr. House saw the apocalypse coming, and actively prepared to defend the city from missile attack, but missed the deadline by one day. His defenses weren't running at full capacity. Regardless, he shot down every missile heading for Vegas except 11 (out of hundreds), and none of those hit densely populated areas. If his upgrades had finished, he would've had them all]].
** Incidentally, a number of people have pointed out that ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'''s devotion to the ScavengedPunk aesthetic [[FridgeLogic doesn't actually make a whole lot of sense]], given that it supposedly takes place ''two centuries'' AfterTheEnd; more than long enough for the descendants of survivors to be numerous and well-organized enough to start quarrying stone or making bricks.
all]].
1st Feb '16 7:39:20 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** Invoked even more explicitly in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas''. In sharp contrast with the crumbling urban wasteland of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', the Mojave desert has clean water, vegetation, and plentiful (if unusually dangerous) wildlife. The primary reason the region still suffers is the conflict between its factions: the swiftly advancing Legion invests much (if not most) of its resources in warfare, and the New California Republic's outposts have overextended and unreliable supply lines to (the entirely rebuilt) California. For their part, the Followers are actually using the supplies to help other people, such as the poor around Vegas (itself a relatively civilized place), most of whom lost their money to organized crime, drugs, and gambling, as opposed to roving bandits and the like.
*** Vegas in general CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot if it wasn't for a stroke of bad luck: [[spoiler: Mr. House saw the apocalypse coming, and actively prepared to defend the city from missile attack, but missed the deadline by one day. His defenses weren't running at full capacity. Regardless, he shot down every missile heading for Vegas except 11 (out of hundreds), and none of those hit densely populated areas. If his upgrades had finished, he would've had them all.]]

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** Invoked even more explicitly in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas''. In sharp contrast with the crumbling urban wasteland of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', the Mojave desert has clean water, vegetation, and plentiful (if unusually dangerous) wildlife. The primary reason the region still suffers is the conflict between its factions: the swiftly advancing Legion invests much (if not most) of its resources in warfare, and the New California Republic's outposts have overextended and unreliable supply lines to (the entirely rebuilt) California. For their part, the Followers are actually using the their supplies to help other people, such as the poor around Vegas (itself a relatively civilized place), New Vegas, most of whom lost their money to organized crime, drugs, and gambling, as opposed to roving bandits and the like.
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*** New Vegas in general itself, which is already considered to be relatively civilized, CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot entirely if it wasn't for a stroke of bad luck: [[spoiler: Mr. House saw the apocalypse coming, and actively prepared to defend the city from missile attack, but missed the deadline by one day. His defenses weren't running at full capacity. Regardless, he shot down every missile heading for Vegas except 11 (out of hundreds), and none of those hit densely populated areas. If his upgrades had finished, he would've had them all.]]all]].
1st Feb '16 7:28:28 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Arguably happens in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}''; at the beginning, humanity seems to have reverted to Stone Age tribalism, and it's not until the second town that you even find an actual gun available for sale. By the end, all the {{Mooks}} have PoweredArmor and energy weapons out the ass.
** The fact that civilization has mostly rebuilt itself is explicitly stated more than once, and is actually a significant element of the setting. The quality of life in San Francisco and the New California Republic is shown to have nearly reached prewar standards, and poor frontier towns like Modoc generally have some sort of government.
** Made even more explicit in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas''. In sharp constrast with the crumbling urban wasteland of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', the Mojave desert has clean water, vegetation and plentiful (If unusually dangerous) wildlife. The primary reason the region still suffers is the conflict between its factions: The Legion advances switftly and invests much of its resources in warfare, the New California Republic soldiers have overextended and unreliable supply lines to the (Entirely rebuilt) California, and the Followers are actually using the supplies to help other people, such as the poor around Vegas, most of whom lost their money to organized crime, drugs and gambling.
** Vegas in general CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot if it wasn't for a stroke of bad luck: [[spoiler: Mr. House saw the apocalypse coming, and actively prepared to defend the city from missile attack, but missed the deadline by one day. His defenses weren't running at full capacity. Regardless, he shot down every missile heading for Vegas except 11 (out of hundreds), and none of those hit densely populated areas. If his upgrades had finished, he would've had them all.]]
** Incidentally, a number of people have pointed out that ''Fallout 3'''s devotion to the ScavengedPunk aesthetic [[FridgeLogic doesn't actually make a whole lot of sense]], given that it supposedly takes place ''two centuries'' AfterTheEnd; more than long enough for the descendants of survivors to be numerous and well-organised enough to start quarrying stone or making bricks.
** The Commonwealth presented in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' is even better off than New Vegas. During the Great War, in contrast to the utter carpet bombing Washington DC received, only ''a single'' nuclear missile was fired at Boston, and said missile ''missed'', landing several miles southwest of Natick instead of hitting the city proper. Skyscrapers are mostly intact and quite a few places even have running water and electricity, making the city and surrounding area a bastion of civilisation rivalling the NCR on the west coast. However, the regional flora and fauna was still horribly mutated by the Black Rain, and the area the missile hit is now this nasty bit of irradiated wasteland called "the Glowing Sea" where exploring without some serious radiation protection is ill-advised.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'':
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Arguably happens in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}''; at the beginning, humanity seems to have reverted to Stone Age tribalism, and it's not until the second town that you even find an actual gun available for sale. By the end, all the {{Mooks}} have PoweredArmor and energy weapons out the ass.
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ass. That said, the fact that civilization has mostly rebuilt itself is explicitly stated more than once, and is actually a significant element of the entire setting. The quality of life in San Francisco and the New California Republic (NCR) is shown to have nearly reached prewar standards, and even poor frontier towns like Modoc generally have some sort of government.
** Made Invoked even more explicit explicitly in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas''. In sharp constrast contrast with the crumbling urban wasteland of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', the Mojave desert has clean water, vegetation vegetation, and plentiful (If (if unusually dangerous) wildlife. The primary reason the region still suffers is the conflict between its factions: The the swiftly advancing Legion advances switftly and invests much (if not most) of its resources in warfare, and the New California Republic soldiers Republic's outposts have overextended and unreliable supply lines to the (Entirely (the entirely rebuilt) California, and California. For their part, the Followers are actually using the supplies to help other people, such as the poor around Vegas, Vegas (itself a relatively civilized place), most of whom lost their money to organized crime, drugs drugs, and gambling.
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gambling, as opposed to roving bandits and the like.
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Vegas in general CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot if it wasn't for a stroke of bad luck: [[spoiler: Mr. House saw the apocalypse coming, and actively prepared to defend the city from missile attack, but missed the deadline by one day. His defenses weren't running at full capacity. Regardless, he shot down every missile heading for Vegas except 11 (out of hundreds), and none of those hit densely populated areas. If his upgrades had finished, he would've had them all.]]
** Incidentally, a number of people have pointed out that ''Fallout 3'''s ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'''s devotion to the ScavengedPunk aesthetic [[FridgeLogic doesn't actually make a whole lot of sense]], given that it supposedly takes place ''two centuries'' AfterTheEnd; more than long enough for the descendants of survivors to be numerous and well-organised well-organized enough to start quarrying stone or making bricks.
** The Commonwealth presented in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' is even better off than New Vegas. During the Great War, in contrast to the utter carpet bombing Washington DC received, only ''a single'' nuclear missile was fired at Boston, and said missile ''missed'', landing several miles southwest of Natick instead of hitting the city proper. Skyscrapers are mostly intact and quite a few places even have running water and electricity, making the city and surrounding area a bastion of civilisation rivalling civilization rivaling the NCR on the west coast. However, the regional flora and fauna was were still horribly mutated by the Black Rain, and the area the missile hit is now this nasty bit of irradiated wasteland called "the Glowing Sea" Sea", where exploring without some serious radiation protection is ill-advised.
30th Jan '16 2:02:08 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* The final arc of ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' develops quickly into this, possibly because the post-apocalypse episodes (which take place two years after the end of the previous arc) were [[PostScriptSeason made in a hurry after the series was lengthened]]. The franchise explains this by stating that mass cloning was used following the war. Also, it's worth noting is that, unlike many other media, no critical technical knowledge was lost in the apocalypse, just industrial capacity, which was ''quickly'' made up for when the survivors began capturing Zentraedi Factory Satellites. However, there are some passing mentions of certain cultural information being lost due to the devastation of specific ethnic groups and the fact no one probably thought it overly critical to preserve copies of Lady Gaga songs, lolcats memes, etc. in hardened military databases.

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* The final arc of ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' develops quickly into this, possibly because the post-apocalypse episodes (which take place two years after the end of the previous arc) were [[PostScriptSeason made in a hurry after the series was lengthened]]. The franchise explains this by stating that mass cloning was used following the war. Also, it's worth noting is that, unlike in many other media, no critical technical knowledge was lost in the apocalypse, just industrial capacity, which was ''quickly'' made up for when the survivors began capturing Zentraedi Factory Satellites. However, there are some passing mentions of certain cultural information being lost due to the devastation of specific ethnic groups and the fact no one probably thought it overly critical to preserve copies of Lady Gaga songs, lolcats memes, etc. in hardened military databases.
30th Jan '16 5:52:02 AM HighCrate
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* More generally, HumansAreSurvivors; as long as we had a functioning ecosystem and enough survivors to avoid problems with inbreeding, we'd rebuild eventually.
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