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12th Oct '17 11:38:45 PM MJTrooper
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** In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'', the population of Khura'in doesn't contain any real amoral defense attorneys... or any defense attorneys at all for that matter. It's completely ingrained into their culture to believe that any defense attorney is inherently evil and will pull any underhanded trick to get their way. As for prosecutors, there are several amoral prosecutors in Khura'in including Gaspen Payne [[and Queen Ga'ran]].

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** In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'', the population of Khura'in doesn't contain any real amoral defense attorneys... or any defense attorneys at all for that matter. It's completely ingrained into their culture to believe that any defense attorney is inherently evil and will pull any underhanded trick to get their way. As for prosecutors, there are several amoral prosecutors in Khura'in including Gaspen Payne [[and [[spoiler:and Queen Ga'ran]].
6th Oct '17 1:48:08 PM x_countryguy
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* In ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' fanfic ''FanFic/DirtySympathy'' [[VillainProtagonist Klavier and Apollo]] are one, half the time. While they do their part to find the truth and the people actually guilty put away, they [[FrameUp framed]] Daryan and Kristoph for crimes they didn't commit and manipulated the witnesses and defendants. Although this was part of a StrangersOnATrainPlotMurder to get Daryan, a DomesticAbuser [[spoiler: and DirtyCop]] and Kristoph, a BadBoss [[spoiler: AmoralAttorney and poisoner]] put away and prevent them from killing Klavier and Apollo. Which is ironic, seeing how Klavier was the first prosecutor in ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' to avert this trope.
* ''FanFic/BartSimpsonAttorneyAtLaw'': Yes ''that'' Bart Simpson as become an attorney. It is actually averted, as Bart has outgrown his bad-boy image and become a ''very'' moral lawyer. It is played straight by the Blue-Haired Lawyer [[spoiler: who works on behalf of Jessica Lovejoy to sue Bart for sexual harassment. During the trial he attempts to wreck Bart's public image by reminding the jury of his hoodlum ways]].

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* In ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' fanfic ''FanFic/DirtySympathy'' [[VillainProtagonist Klavier and Apollo]] are one, half the time. While they do their part to find the truth and the people actually guilty put away, they [[FrameUp framed]] Daryan and Kristoph for crimes they didn't commit and manipulated the witnesses and defendants. Although this was part of a StrangersOnATrainPlotMurder to get Daryan, a DomesticAbuser [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and DirtyCop]] and Kristoph, a BadBoss [[spoiler: AmoralAttorney [[spoiler:AmoralAttorney and poisoner]] put away and prevent them from killing Klavier and Apollo. Which is ironic, seeing how Klavier was the first prosecutor in ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' to avert this trope.
* ''FanFic/BartSimpsonAttorneyAtLaw'': Yes ''that'' Bart Simpson as become an attorney. It is actually averted, as Bart has outgrown his bad-boy image and become a ''very'' moral lawyer. It is played straight by the Blue-Haired Lawyer [[spoiler: who [[spoiler:who works on behalf of Jessica Lovejoy to sue Bart for sexual harassment. During the trial he attempts to wreck Bart's public image by reminding the jury of his hoodlum ways]].



* [[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/303160/synthetic-bottled-sunlight Synthetic Bottled Sunlight]] follows an emotionally exhausted Princess Celestia attempting to outwit a litany of corrupt lawyers and bureaucrats after [[spoiler: she is found unfit to rule.]]

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* [[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/303160/synthetic-bottled-sunlight Synthetic Bottled Sunlight]] follows an emotionally exhausted Princess Celestia attempting to outwit a litany of corrupt lawyers and bureaucrats after [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she is found unfit to rule.]]



* ''Film/LittleSweetheart'' gives this as an upside that [[spoiler: they killed Robert Burger, seeing as they don't gotta pay a public defender, clearly thinking very little of said defender, as he would have defended a bank robber and accused child murderer (he's innocent).]]

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* ''Film/LittleSweetheart'' gives this as an upside that [[spoiler: they [[spoiler:they killed Robert Burger, seeing as they don't gotta pay a public defender, clearly thinking very little of said defender, as he would have defended a bank robber and accused child murderer (he's innocent).]]



* An InvokedTrope in ''Film/TheDevilsAdvocate''. Satan himself runs an entire corrupt legal office with global connections, composed of immoral humans and his own demons, as part of a plot to drive the world to apocalypse by providing every CardCarryingVillain in the world with [[OffOnATechnicality the best legal assistance in existence]]. An explicit example is the [[VillainProtagonist protagonist]], Kevin Lomax: while he does retains some moral qualms against defending a pedophile in the beginning of the movie, he more or less completely eschews them and becomes this trope. [[spoiler: After he defeats the devil and is revived, he loses the "amoral", and risks disbarment to expose his pedophile client]].

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* An InvokedTrope in ''Film/TheDevilsAdvocate''. Satan himself runs an entire corrupt legal office with global connections, composed of immoral humans and his own demons, as part of a plot to drive the world to apocalypse by providing every CardCarryingVillain in the world with [[OffOnATechnicality the best legal assistance in existence]]. An explicit example is the [[VillainProtagonist protagonist]], Kevin Lomax: while he does retains some moral qualms against defending a pedophile in the beginning of the movie, he more or less completely eschews them and becomes this trope. [[spoiler: After [[spoiler:After he defeats the devil and is revived, he loses the "amoral", and risks disbarment to expose his pedophile client]].



* ''Film/TrueBeliever'': Roger Baron feels Eddie Dodd has become this by the time of the film, due to making a living defending drug dealers after having fought for radical causes in the past. Eddie denies it and says opposing the war on drugs is a worthy cause too, though it's pretty clear he's fallen a long way from his glory days. [[spoiler: It turns out Robert Reynard ''really'' is one, since he framed a man to protect his source, apparently without any qualms.]]

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* ''Film/TrueBeliever'': Roger Baron feels Eddie Dodd has become this by the time of the film, due to making a living defending drug dealers after having fought for radical causes in the past. Eddie denies it and says opposing the war on drugs is a worthy cause too, though it's pretty clear he's fallen a long way from his glory days. [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It turns out Robert Reynard ''really'' is one, since he framed a man to protect his source, apparently without any qualms.]]



* OlderThanPrint: The 13th century ''[[Literature/TheIcelandicSagas Njal's Saga]]'' has an early instance of this trope, [[UnbuiltTrope if it really could be called a trope back then]]. When the killers of Njal and his family are sued by Njal's friends, the former enlist the help of the famous lawyer Eyjolf Bolverksson, who subsequently continually tries to invalidate the suit on petty technicalities, and [[spoiler: eventually succeeds.]] Which is an ambivalent outcome because [[spoiler: he gets killed for it.]] Though he is not an attorney in a strict sense (because Old Icelandic law had no such institution), he acts just like one. [[ValuesDissonance Strangely]], his amorality is not so much demonstrated by his playing on technicalities (which is common tactics), or his support of a guilty party (the killers never deny the deed, which legally is only [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy the usual manslaughter, not murder]]), but by his acceptance of a gold bracelet as a payment in advance, which is against conventions and perceived as a dishonest act.

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* OlderThanPrint: The 13th century ''[[Literature/TheIcelandicSagas Njal's Saga]]'' has an early instance of this trope, [[UnbuiltTrope if it really could be called a trope back then]]. When the killers of Njal and his family are sued by Njal's friends, the former enlist the help of the famous lawyer Eyjolf Bolverksson, who subsequently continually tries to invalidate the suit on petty technicalities, and [[spoiler: eventually [[spoiler:eventually succeeds.]] Which is an ambivalent outcome because [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he gets killed for it.]] Though he is not an attorney in a strict sense (because Old Icelandic law had no such institution), he acts just like one. [[ValuesDissonance Strangely]], his amorality is not so much demonstrated by his playing on technicalities (which is common tactics), or his support of a guilty party (the killers never deny the deed, which legally is only [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy the usual manslaughter, not murder]]), but by his acceptance of a gold bracelet as a payment in advance, which is against conventions and perceived as a dishonest act.



* In the Creator/MichaelConnelly novel (later a film) ''Literature/TheLincolnLawyer'', this is happily subverted with the protagonist, Literature/MickeyHaller. While Mickey seems to have some element of this characterization early on in that he is willingly representing guilty people [[spoiler: when he realizes that his current client is truly evil, he does everything within his power to see him arrested. He also is horrified that a man who he convinced to plead guilty is in fact innocent.]] This is also interestingly subverted in that at the end of the novel, the Bar association is going after him for some of the actions he took during the course of the story (he ends up disbarred for several months).

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* In the Creator/MichaelConnelly novel (later a film) ''Literature/TheLincolnLawyer'', this is happily subverted with the protagonist, Literature/MickeyHaller. While Mickey seems to have some element of this characterization early on in that he is willingly representing guilty people [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when he realizes that his current client is truly evil, he does everything within his power to see him arrested. He also is horrified that a man who he convinced to plead guilty is in fact innocent.]] This is also interestingly subverted in that at the end of the novel, the Bar association is going after him for some of the actions he took during the course of the story (he ends up disbarred for several months).



* In the ''Series/DoctorWho'' serial "Trial of a Time Lord", the Valeyard, a villainous prosecutor [[spoiler: and [[FutureMeScaresMe future regeneration of the Doctor]]]], accepts a bribe [[spoiler: of the Doctor's remaining regenerations]] to falsify evidence in order to secure the Sixth Doctor's conviction.

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* In the ''Series/DoctorWho'' serial "Trial of a Time Lord", the Valeyard, a villainous prosecutor [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and [[FutureMeScaresMe future regeneration of the Doctor]]]], accepts a bribe [[spoiler: of [[spoiler:of the Doctor's remaining regenerations]] to falsify evidence in order to secure the Sixth Doctor's conviction.



* ''Series/HowToGetAwayWithMurder'' follows the professor and students of a law school course intended to train new Amoral Attorneys. Said professor informally calls the course the same name as the title of the show. [[spoiler: It's not a joke.]] It should be noted that Professor Keating isn't a bad person as such, she just takes the attitude that whatever the client's done, she ''will'' get them found innocent.

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* ''Series/HowToGetAwayWithMurder'' follows the professor and students of a law school course intended to train new Amoral Attorneys. Said professor informally calls the course the same name as the title of the show. [[spoiler: It's [[spoiler:It's not a joke.]] It should be noted that Professor Keating isn't a bad person as such, she just takes the attitude that whatever the client's done, she ''will'' get them found innocent.



** The Crown Prosecutor in "Hangman", who does everything to make sure the defendant gets hanged, even the obviously innocent ones. Once a judge suspects his methods, [[spoiler: he confronts the judge, kills him, and frames a known criminal for it]].
** Leslie Garland in the two-part "On the Waterfront" has passed his bar exam and is working for one of the Crown Prosecutors--specifically the one handling the charges against Drs. Ogden and Grace and the other suffragettes arrested at the protest march. Garland offers to have a word with his new boss in the doctors' favour, but both of them refuse his help. He later ensures Dr. Grace's charges aren't dropped immediately [[spoiler: no doubt because she threw him over after she learned he'd posed as the infamous James Gilies and threatened the lives of Julia and William]], and he gloats over her incarceration. Julia and her attorney present the Prosecutor with evidence of [[spoiler: his terror campaign]], and Garland is fired. He drops by Julia's office and gets a surprise of his own: [[spoiler: a fearsome William Murdoch who promises to take off his badge and settle their differences if Garland bothers Julia again]].

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** The Crown Prosecutor in "Hangman", who does everything to make sure the defendant gets hanged, even the obviously innocent ones. Once a judge suspects his methods, [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he confronts the judge, kills him, and frames a known criminal for it]].
** Leslie Garland in the two-part "On the Waterfront" has passed his bar exam and is working for one of the Crown Prosecutors--specifically the one handling the charges against Drs. Ogden and Grace and the other suffragettes arrested at the protest march. Garland offers to have a word with his new boss in the doctors' favour, but both of them refuse his help. He later ensures Dr. Grace's charges aren't dropped immediately [[spoiler: no [[spoiler:no doubt because she threw him over after she learned he'd posed as the infamous James Gilies and threatened the lives of Julia and William]], and he gloats over her incarceration. Julia and her attorney present the Prosecutor with evidence of [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his terror campaign]], and Garland is fired. He drops by Julia's office and gets a surprise of his own: [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a fearsome William Murdoch who promises to take off his badge and settle their differences if Garland bothers Julia again]].



* Most of the lawyers in ''VideoGame/AviaryAttorney'' avert this to some degree. Jayjay Falcon and Sparrowson can do some mildly unethical things in the course of their investigation, but their justice system doesn't take stolen evidence. Falcon, in the route [[spoiler: where he becomes a murderer, explicitly stops being a lawyer before he does so]]. Severin Cocorico ''was'' the kind of prosecutor who gleefully went and sent every possible criminal to prison or execution, but long before the game started he started to doubt this method and became a truth-seeker who was willing to let technical criminals walk if he understood circumstances. That said, he's also a smug jerk and really hurt some people during his early years.

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* Most of the lawyers in ''VideoGame/AviaryAttorney'' avert this to some degree. Jayjay Falcon and Sparrowson can do some mildly unethical things in the course of their investigation, but their justice system doesn't take stolen evidence. Falcon, in the route [[spoiler: where [[spoiler:where he becomes a murderer, explicitly stops being a lawyer before he does so]]. Severin Cocorico ''was'' the kind of prosecutor who gleefully went and sent every possible criminal to prison or execution, but long before the game started he started to doubt this method and became a truth-seeker who was willing to let technical criminals walk if he understood circumstances. That said, he's also a smug jerk and really hurt some people during his early years.



** Miles Edgeworth: Perfection-obsessed, but undergoes a lot of CharacterDevelopment and gets a HeelFaceTurn by the end of the game, is nice to Phoenix outside of court for the rest of the series. Even after this HeelFaceTurn, he does what he needs to to bring out the truth, and can get really cold when doing this. Two shining examples are when he brought up a sensitive issue to get a tight-lipped witness to testify (when we say "sensitive issue", we mean that the witness attempted suicide because of it before) and when he suggested that the defendant, who was eleven years old at the time, after committing the crime, tried to use a machine to brutally dismember the body. [[spoiler: Aside from the fact that said girl didn't murder anyone, he was actually ''completely right''- the girl thought her mother was no different than the robots, and that the machine could fix her.]]

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** Miles Edgeworth: Perfection-obsessed, but undergoes a lot of CharacterDevelopment and gets a HeelFaceTurn by the end of the game, is nice to Phoenix outside of court for the rest of the series. Even after this HeelFaceTurn, he does what he needs to to bring out the truth, and can get really cold when doing this. Two shining examples are when he brought up a sensitive issue to get a tight-lipped witness to testify (when we say "sensitive issue", we mean that the witness attempted suicide because of it before) and when he suggested that the defendant, who was eleven years old at the time, after committing the crime, tried to use a machine to brutally dismember the body. [[spoiler: Aside [[spoiler:Aside from the fact that said girl didn't murder anyone, he was actually ''completely right''- the girl thought her mother was no different than the robots, and that the machine could fix her.]]



** Franziska von Karma from ''Justice for All'': Perfection-obsessed too, coupled with an obsession with [[spoiler:succeeding where her adopted brother (Miles Edgeworth) failed, as doing so will make her feel worthy of the von Karma name, as she felt that the adopted Edgeworth had always been better than her]]. She also badgers witnesses, either with threats of legal action or with her whip. However, like Edgeworth, she seems to be doing her own HeelFaceTurn, as [[spoiler: she was an irreplaceable aid to the ''defense'' in Case 3-5. The only time she aided the prosecution was when she herself was prosecutor]].

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** Franziska von Karma from ''Justice for All'': Perfection-obsessed too, coupled with an obsession with [[spoiler:succeeding where her adopted brother (Miles Edgeworth) failed, as doing so will make her feel worthy of the von Karma name, as she felt that the adopted Edgeworth had always been better than her]]. She also badgers witnesses, either with threats of legal action or with her whip. However, like Edgeworth, she seems to be doing her own HeelFaceTurn, as [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she was an irreplaceable aid to the ''defense'' in Case 3-5. The only time she aided the prosecution was when she herself was prosecutor]].



** Simon Blackquill from ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'' has no problem with threatening witnesses to ensure their cooperation, psychologically manipulating everyone in the courtroom, attacking the defense with a RazorWind, and siccing his pet hawk on everyone. Oh, and he's a ''convicted murderer.'' [[spoiler: In actuality, he framed himself for his mentor's murder to protect her traumatized daughter - Athena. Despite being ''a day away from execution'', he doesn't fight back because his death will ensure Athena's safety. He also proves to be firmly on the side of the truth, as he psychologically manipulates the phantom in order to get Athena the chance she needs to prove his identity. He also does not use many dirty tricks when he is prosecuting.]]

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** Simon Blackquill from ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'' has no problem with threatening witnesses to ensure their cooperation, psychologically manipulating everyone in the courtroom, attacking the defense with a RazorWind, and siccing his pet hawk on everyone. Oh, and he's a ''convicted murderer.'' [[spoiler: In [[spoiler:In actuality, he framed himself for his mentor's murder to protect her traumatized daughter - Athena. Despite being ''a day away from execution'', he doesn't fight back because his death will ensure Athena's safety. He also proves to be firmly on the side of the truth, as he psychologically manipulates the phantom in order to get Athena the chance she needs to prove his identity. He also does not use many dirty tricks when he is prosecuting.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/LuckyLuke'': A great example appears in the ''New Adventures series'' where a corrupt lawyer strikes a deal with the Daltons and not only lies through his teeth to get them acquitted from the crimes they obviously committed, but he also bribes a judge to declare Luke guilty and imprison him. [[spoiler: His lies were too good to last though... and he has to deal both with Luke's revenge plan and the Dalton's threat over his person once they don't need him anymore]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/LuckyLuke'': A great example appears in the ''New Adventures series'' where a corrupt lawyer strikes a deal with the Daltons and not only lies through his teeth to get them acquitted from the crimes they obviously committed, but he also bribes a judge to declare Luke guilty and imprison him. [[spoiler: His [[spoiler:His lies were too good to last though... and he has to deal both with Luke's revenge plan and the Dalton's threat over his person once they don't need him anymore]].
11th Sep '17 9:48:21 AM GrammarNavi
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In reality, attorneys are simply acting and arguing on behalf of their clients, and are ''supposed'' to be [[YouKeepUsingThatWord amoral (not immoral!)]] in their advocacy. An attorney is a true PunchClockVillain or PunchClockHero depending on who hires them. In fact, in some jurisdictions, like [[BritishCourts the UK]], advocates ''have no choice'' who they defend: if approached, it's professional misconduct not to accept a case within their professional competence. Criminal defense attorneys, in particular, are often very kind-hearted, civic-minded people who genuinely believe that even the worst members of society have a good reason for committing their crime, and therefore deserve a fair shake--even if they understand perfectly well that their client is almost certainly guilty. Ideally, a strong defense of their client serves as an important check against false accusations, {{corrupt cop}}s, {{hanging judge}}s, {{kangaroo court}}s, and other forms of fast-but-unfair tyranny. Thus the defense attorney's arguments slow down the legal procedure for the sake of long-term accuracy. What an attorney should not be is ''unethical''. In trope terms, a good lawyer is (ideally) LawfulNeutral in practice and (dare we say it) LawfulGood in intention. In the wonderful world of fiction, however, SocialDarwinism is the name of the game. After all, it's not much of a "drama" if the opponent isn't [[VillainyFreeVillain villainous and unlikable]], is it?

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In reality, attorneys are simply acting and arguing on behalf of their clients, and are ''supposed'' to be [[YouKeepUsingThatWord amoral (not immoral!)]] in their advocacy. An attorney is a true PunchClockVillain or PunchClockHero depending on who hires them. In fact, in some jurisdictions, like [[BritishCourts [[UsefulNotes/BritishCourts the UK]], advocates ''have no choice'' who they defend: if approached, it's professional misconduct not to accept a case within their professional competence. Criminal defense attorneys, in particular, are often very kind-hearted, civic-minded people who genuinely believe that even the worst members of society have a good reason for committing their crime, and therefore deserve a fair shake--even if they understand perfectly well that their client is almost certainly guilty. Ideally, a strong defense of their client serves as an important check against false accusations, {{corrupt cop}}s, {{hanging judge}}s, {{kangaroo court}}s, and other forms of fast-but-unfair tyranny. Thus the defense attorney's arguments slow down the legal procedure for the sake of long-term accuracy. What an attorney should not be is ''unethical''. In trope terms, a good lawyer is (ideally) LawfulNeutral in practice and (dare we say it) LawfulGood in intention. In the wonderful world of fiction, however, SocialDarwinism is the name of the game. After all, it's not much of a "drama" if the opponent isn't [[VillainyFreeVillain villainous and unlikable]], is it?
30th Aug '17 8:41:03 PM jnv11
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** In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'', the population of Khura'in doesn't contain any real amoral attorneys... or any defence attorneys at all for that matter. It's completely ingrained into their culture to believe that any lawyer is inherently evil and will pull any underhanded trick to get their way.

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** In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'', the population of Khura'in doesn't contain any real amoral defense attorneys... or any defence defense attorneys at all for that matter. It's completely ingrained into their culture to believe that any lawyer defense attorney is inherently evil and will pull any underhanded trick to get their way.way. As for prosecutors, there are several amoral prosecutors in Khura'in including Gaspen Payne [[and Queen Ga'ran]].
21st Aug '17 12:42:42 PM DustSnitch
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* In first painting of the ''Art/MarriageALaMode'' series, Silvertongue, one of the legal counsellors drawing up the paperwork for the marriage contract, shows as much regard for the sanctity of marriage as the simultaneously engaged and unengaged couple. As he sharpens his quill, he begins romancing the bride-to-be, clearly sensing that he could be on to a good thing by getting into the bed of a rich yet unhappily married woman and thus living a life of luxury at her and especially her husband's expense. (She, meanwhile, is happy to have a sexual partner who is not a vain, syphilitic fop.)
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8th Aug '17 9:15:46 PM dmcreif
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*** Matt Murdock himself is a very good lawyer. But to go after criminals like Wilson Fisk, he often combines his lawyer work with his nighttime activities as the Devil of Hell's Kitchen.
7th Aug '17 9:40:22 PM wingedcatgirl
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* ''Film/EyeForAnEye'' (1996) had an interesting case. A man breaks into a house to rape and kill a teenager. The only evidence is a small amount of blood - enough for the prosecution to identify him with their own tests, but not enough for the defense to run tests of their own. He gets OffOnATechnicality, leading to the main plot - [[spoiler:the girl's mother suckering the killer into targeting her so she can kill him in self-defense.]] The part that gets you wondering why we don't kill every lawyer on Earth? The defense was invited to have their own experts participate in testing the blood - they declined. ''Then'', they sprung the technicality. They ''purposefully'' refused to participate in the investigation so their killer rapist (who already had a record of stalking) could go free.
** Also a case of artistic license. This kind of thing is covered by so called notice and demand laws. The prosecution NOTIFIED the defense that they were doing this and gave them the opportunity to be present. By refusing the defense WAIVED the objection at trial. Guy would likely have been convicted and his lawyers sued MASSIVELY for malpractice.

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* ''Film/EyeForAnEye'' (1996) had an interesting case. A man breaks into a house to rape and kill a teenager. The only evidence is a small amount of blood - enough for the prosecution to identify him with their own tests, but not enough for the defense to run tests of their own. He gets OffOnATechnicality, leading to the main plot - [[spoiler:the girl's mother suckering the killer into targeting her so she can kill him in self-defense.]] The part that gets you wondering why we don't kill every lawyer on Earth? The defense was invited to have their own experts participate in testing the blood - they declined. ''Then'', they sprung the technicality. They ''purposefully'' refused to participate in the investigation so their killer rapist (who already had a record of stalking) could go free.
** Also a case of artistic license. This kind of thing
free. [[ArtisticLicenseLaw Which is covered by so called notice and demand laws. The prosecution NOTIFIED the defense exactly why it doesn't work that they were doing this and gave them the opportunity to be present. By refusing the defense WAIVED the objection at trial. Guy would likely have been convicted and his lawyers sued MASSIVELY for malpractice.way in reality.]]
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnoxJuVx11k Subverted in this commercial]]. the Devil tries to issue a cease and desist to Heaven over their Halo Top Ice Cream, but the trio of damned lawyers he brings can't stop eating the product.
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22nd Jul '17 11:46:27 AM Drake1703
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* Fanfic/SyntheticBottledSunlight follows an emotionally exhausted Princess Celestia attempting to outwit a litany of corrupt lawyers and bureaucrats after [[spoiler: she is found unfit to rule.]]

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* Fanfic/SyntheticBottledSunlight [[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/303160/synthetic-bottled-sunlight Synthetic Bottled Sunlight]] follows an emotionally exhausted Princess Celestia attempting to outwit a litany of corrupt lawyers and bureaucrats after [[spoiler: she is found unfit to rule.]]
8th Jul '17 1:06:32 PM infernape612
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** While Winston Payne didn't venture over here, his brother, Gaspen Payne, introduced in ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', is pretty much TheBully as a prosecutor, and takes pride in it, calling himself the "Rookie/Defendant Humiliator". At one point, he takes the time to badger the defendant into admitting her guilt, causing the Judge to sustain Athena's objection when his badgering drives her to tears. The post-credits scene also reveals that he actually is more than willing to use questionable methods, leading to [[spoiler:him getting looked into by Chief Prosecutor Edgeworth]]. He returns in ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'', where he turns out to have fled to a country that has outlawed defence attorneys simply so he can never loose. When Phoenix Wright decides to go up against him, Gaspen allows it but does not tell him about the Defence Culpability Act and how he will be executed under it if he fails. He even wanted that to happen as revenge for his loss in ''Dual Destinies''.

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** While Winston Payne didn't venture over here, his brother, Gaspen Payne, introduced in ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', is pretty much TheBully as a prosecutor, and takes pride in it, calling himself the "Rookie/Defendant Humiliator". At one point, he takes the time to badger the defendant into admitting her guilt, causing the Judge to sustain Athena's objection when his badgering drives her to tears. The post-credits scene also reveals that he actually is more than willing to use questionable methods, leading to [[spoiler:him getting looked into by Chief Prosecutor Edgeworth]]. He returns in ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'', where he turns out to have fled to a country that has outlawed defence attorneys simply so he can never loose.lose. When Phoenix Wright decides to go up against him, Gaspen allows it but does not tell him about the Defence Culpability Act and how he will be executed under it if he fails. He even wanted that calls for giving the death penalty to happen ''a nine-year old child'' to get Phoenix killed along with him as revenge for his loss in ''Dual Destinies''.



** Phoenix Wright himself [[AvertedTrope averts this most of the time]], but if he's your lawyer, he will believe in your innocence and defend you to the bitter end ''whether you want him to or not''. He has defended multiple clients who wanted to plead guilty (Lana Skye, Ron [=DeLite=], etc.) This is mostly because of his undying belief that his clients aren't guilty of their accusations, though. Thus, his acquaintances are more likely to call him the "Illogical Attorney", rather than amoral. The only time we catch a slight wind of this is in case 6-5 "Turnabout Revolution", when he ''sues Apollo's client'' and supports his case with [[BlatantLies obviously falsified testimony]], especially since the plaintiff is a JerkAss SleazyPolitician. However, at the end of the trial, [[spoiler:we learn that he only accepted the request because Maya was kidnapped for ransom [[DesignatedVictim ''again'']]]].\\

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** Phoenix Wright himself [[AvertedTrope averts this most of the time]], but if he's your lawyer, he will believe in your innocence and defend you to the bitter end ''whether you want him to or not''. He has defended multiple clients who wanted to plead guilty (Lana Skye, Ron [=DeLite=], etc.) This is mostly because of his undying belief that his clients aren't guilty of their accusations, though. Thus, his acquaintances are more likely to call him the "Illogical Attorney", rather than amoral. The only time we catch a slight wind of this is in case 6-5 "Turnabout Revolution", when he ''sues Apollo's client'' and supports his case with [[BlatantLies obviously falsified testimony]], especially since the plaintiff is a JerkAss SleazyPolitician. However, at the end of the trial, [[spoiler:we learn that he only accepted the request because Maya was kidnapped for ransom [[DesignatedVictim ''again'']]]].''[[DesignatedVictim again]]'']].\\



** [[spoiler:Queen Ga'ran]] uses her power as [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen monarch]] to create the Defence Culpability Act, which means that defence attorneys are given the same sentence as their clients, essentially committing genocide upon lawyers. Then when she does prosecute in the final case, she goes all out. She [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem rewrites the law on the spot]] at points, gives out penalties instead of the judge, whom she outright calls a figurehead, and even attempts to hand down a premature guilty verdict. She interrupts the trial by having her own sister shot on the stand, in order to buy some time. At the very end, when exposed as the true murderer, she even makes a law that lets her execute everyone against her on the spot. She's only stopped when it's proven that she is in fact, TheUsurper, and all her laws are then rendered invalid.]]

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** [[spoiler:Queen Ga'ran]] uses her power as [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen monarch]] to create the Defence Culpability Act, which means that defence attorneys are given the same sentence as their clients, essentially committing genocide upon lawyers. Then when she does prosecute in the final case, she goes all out. She [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem rewrites the law on the spot]] at points, gives out penalties instead of the judge, whom she outright calls a figurehead, and even attempts to hand down a premature guilty verdict. She interrupts the trial by having [[spoiler:having her own sister shot on the stand, in order to buy some time. At the very end, when exposed as the true murderer, she even makes a law that lets her execute everyone against her on the spot. She's only stopped when it's proven that she is in fact, TheUsurper, and all her laws are then rendered invalid.]]
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