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21st Jun '17 7:51:53 AM EarsplittingLepidopteran
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Casca has medium brown skin, straight black hair, and a face type that's pretty unclear about her origins. For years fans have been arguing with each other over whether she's supposed to be black, Arab, East Indian, Southern European, mixed, or just about any other real-life brown race you can think of. ''Berserk'' does have races in the story who resemble black Africans and South Asians, but Casca looks ambiguous enough that she can't be indisputably categorized with either. It's entirely possible that Creator/KentaroMiura just wanted to give her a unique appearance without having a particular intention about her race, since he hasn't commented on the issue. Making matters even more muddled, the ''Golden Age'' film trilogy and ''Anime/Berserk2016'' depict her skin as a [[ButNotTooBlack much lighter shade of tan]] than in the manga, while making her hair dark brown or reddish-brown instead of black.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Casca has medium brown skin, straight black hair, and a face type that's pretty unclear about her origins. For years fans have been arguing with each other over whether she's supposed to be black, Arab, East Indian, Southern European, mixed, or just about any other real-life brown race you can think of. ''Berserk'' does have races in the story who resemble black Africans and South Asians, but Casca looks ambiguous enough that she can't be indisputably categorized with either. It's entirely possible that Creator/KentaroMiura just wanted to give her a unique appearance without having a particular intention about her race, since he hasn't commented on the issue. Making matters even more muddled, the ''Golden Age'' film trilogy and ''Anime/Berserk2016'' depict her Casca's skin as a [[ButNotTooBlack much lighter shade of tan]] than in the manga, while making her hair dark brown or reddish-brown instead of black.black.
** Pippin is also ambiguously brown skinned like Casca but unlike her, Pippin has prominent lips suggesting he is of a different ethnicity and none of the adaptations change his skin tone. Corkus has notable darker skin in the 97 anime, but like Casca is whitened up the movies.



** In the main cast, there's Usopp, who also has kinky black hair and drawn lips (which most characters lack), and Oda said that if the Straw Hats were from the real world he would be from Africa, so he is most likely intended to be black. The Spanish dub of ''One Piece'' had Usopp talking in a heavy Arabic accent, plus he was renamed as Usuf. However, Usopp's mother Banchina was very pale, and had an Italian name, whereas his father has similar features including drawn lips. Also, while he now has blond dreadlocks, he was shown when Shanks first recruited him to have curly black hair, so it's likely he dyed/bleached it. This might point to Ussop being biracial.

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** In the main cast, there's Usopp, who also has has creamy brown skin, kinky black hair and drawn lips (which most characters lack), and Oda said that if the Straw Hats were from the real world he would be from Africa, so he is most likely intended to be black.to. The Spanish dub of ''One Piece'' had Usopp talking in a heavy Arabic accent, plus he was renamed as Usuf. However, Usopp's mother Banchina was very pale, and had an Italian name, whereas his father has similar features including drawn lips. Also, while he now has blond dreadlocks, he was shown when Shanks first recruited him to have curly black hair, so it's likely he dyed/bleached it. This might point to Ussop being biracial.


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** Zoro has highly [[https://media0.giphy.com/media/fq5YBsu5vE4mc/giphy-facebook_s.jpg?t=1 noticeable tan]] in the earlier anime and keeps this skin tone right up til the timeskip. Since Zoro nationality would be Japanese it's likely just a heavy tan like Robin.


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** Kuzan aka Aolkiji is also distinctly brown and has pronounced lips like Usopp and in Funimation dub has a low voice like a Jazz singer. But since Kuzan is based off a famous Japanese actor, it's likely just a animators' descion.
*''Anime/DeltoraQuest'' Jasmine is described in the having sunbrown skin in the books and the anime surprisingly matches it especially [[https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUhnyGfd5WzrpFq4p91wbwt8XLicyBUOsehgA7CT_IKM454XWZlA compared]] to the other characters). The exact reason why Jasmine's skin is like this is debatable, most likely is because she has lived outdoors for most of life or possiblely she inherited her pigment from her father as well as her [[AdaptationDyeJob green]] green hair which was no in the books.
** Doom the RebelLeader is described as tan skinned in the books and he's even [[https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMF5U7G86aGCaq38-OQHrD2fKcXNDOP_kzLcfgDaiX1RlJvIJvzbQshiRT darker]] in the anime, easily more brown the every other character. Doom also has green hair [[StrongFamilyResemblance like]] Jasmine [[spoiler: two of the three obvious visual clues that Doom and Jasmine are actually related]].
15th Jun '17 3:17:01 PM Gaucelm
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* There's still a good deal of debate as to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy what the ancient Egyptians looked like]]. According to their own paintings, they were dark tan to black, while Hollywood has an irritating tradition of casting white actors in the role of egyptians. What complicates the debate is that white supremacists have questionably claimed the Ancient Egyptians for their own race for propaganda reasons.

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* There's still a good deal of debate as to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy what the ancient Egyptians looked like]]. According to their own paintings, they were dark tan to black, while Hollywood has an irritating tradition of casting white actors in the role of egyptians. What complicates the debate is that white supremacists have questionably claimed the Ancient Egyptians for their own race for propaganda reasons.black.
10th Jun '17 1:22:05 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'' has Jimenez, who comes from the United States and who players could assume to be African-American if not for his last name and tendency to exclaim [[GratuitousSpanish "Ay Dios mio!"]], implying that he has some sort of Central or South American descent.
5th Jun '17 5:34:27 PM Pichu-kun
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* [[http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uCnFFyMh9UE/THf8XGOCdKI/AAAAAAAACW4/-sWggtUs-k0/s1600/GLEE+-+NAYA+RIVERA+AS+SANTANA.jpg Santana]] on ''Series/{{Glee}}'' is this initially, though she later confirms that she is Hispanic. Other characters aren't as sure, like Sue who says to her "I'm still not certain on what your ethnicity is." Her actress, Creator/NayaRivera, is half Puerto Rican, quarter German, and quarter African American.

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* [[http://4.''Series/{{Glee}}'':
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* Creator/KeeganMichaelKey of ''Series/KeyAndPeele''. He is half-black and half-white, but looks ambiguous enough that he sometimes plays Latino, Indian, and Middle-Eastern characters.
** Interestingly, Creator/JordanPeele has the same ethnic background as his costar, but Peele has slightly darker skin, so he tends to just play Black characters.

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* Creator/KeeganMichaelKey of ''Series/KeyAndPeele''. He is half-black and half-white, but looks ambiguous enough that he sometimes plays Latino, Indian, and Middle-Eastern characters. \n** Interestingly, Creator/JordanPeele has the same ethnic background as his costar, but Peele has slightly darker skin, so he tends to just play Black characters.



* ''Series/{{Workaholics}}'': Montez. There's even a joke in one episode where he accuses some of his coworkers of discriminating against him because he's black, and they act as though they are genuinely unaware of what race he belongs to. In real life, Montez's actor, Erik Griffin, has a stand-up routine about how nobody can seem to identify his ethnicity.

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Montez. There's even a joke in one episode where he accuses some of his coworkers of discriminating against him because he's black, and they act as though they are genuinely unaware of what race he belongs to. In real life, Montez's actor, Erik Griffin, has a stand-up routine about how nobody can seem to identify his ethnicity.



** Telma is is obviously black however she bares a heavy resemblance to the Gerudo race. The problem is that Gerudo are apparently extinct by ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess''. So, does Telma have Gerudo in her blood or is she just a Gerudo-looking Hylian?

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** Telma is is obviously black however she bares a heavy resemblance to the Gerudo race. The problem is that Gerudo are apparently extinct by ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess''. So, does Telma have Gerudo in her blood or is she just a Gerudo-looking Hylian?



** Marlon from ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' has dark skin from head to stomach, but has light skin from waist to toe. This implies he's heavily tanned.

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** The WalkingShirtlessScene that is Marlon from ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' has dark skin from head to stomach, but has light skin from waist to toe. This combined with him being a swimmer implies he's heavily tanned.



** The mother in ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' always has light brown skin, no matter what skin tone you use for the protagonist (whose canon/default skin tone is light). She is lighter toned than most of the native Alola characters but is still darker than most Kanto characters, which is the region where the protagonist's family lived until recently. It could be a tan but it's impossible to tell.



** While not "Ambigiously ''Brown''", the concept of the ConstructedWorld blurs the lines of several character ethnicities to the point where they're of ambiguous race. There have been debates about whether Yang is supposed to be biracial or not.

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** While not "Ambigiously ''Brown''", the concept of the ConstructedWorld blurs the lines of several character ethnicities to the point where they're of ambiguous race. There have been debates about whether Yang (who is a light skinned blonde with purple eyes but has a Chinese name, which she received from her equally blond father) is supposed to be biracial or not.



* Alex from ''WesternAnimation/TotallySpies''. Like many of the other examples, she's implied to be biracial. Her dad is White and her mom [[StrongFamilyResemblance looks exactly like her]] but darker; she's implied to be Latina or Filipina.

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* Alex from ''WesternAnimation/TotallySpies''. Like many of the other examples, she's implied to be biracial. Her dad is White white and her mom [[StrongFamilyResemblance looks exactly like her]] but darker; she's implied to be Latina latina or Filipina.



* ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'' has Allura, Hunk and Lance as varying shades of brown. This is a departure from [[Anime/{{Voltron}} the original source,]] which depicted the entire team as white.

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* ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'' has Allura, Hunk Hunk, and Lance as varying shades of brown. This is a departure from [[Anime/{{Voltron}} the original source,]] which depicted the entire team as white.
29th May '17 12:52:23 AM bombadil211
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** This is certainly true because the term "black" back then simply means someone who has very dark complexion or hair, not "black" as in referring to a particular race as we know of today (in fact, the conception of race is actually a [[NewerThanTheyThink new]]). Evident when Ancient Greeks called Egyptians and Victorian British to the Indians "black". So this further complicates whenever a particular historical figure was mention to be "black", it's unknown if that person is referred to their tan/dark skin, hair, or had a Saharan African origin.

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** This is certainly true because the term "black" back then simply means someone who has very dark complexion or hair, not "black" as in referring to a particular race as we know of today (in fact, the conception of race is actually a [[NewerThanTheyThink new]]). Evident when Ancient Greeks called Egyptians and Victorian British to the Indians "black"."black"[[note]]Ancient Greek hadn't developed words for many colors, which is why ancienct texts describe blood as being "green", meaning that the blood was bright and fresh[[/note]]. So this further complicates whenever a particular historical figure was mention to be "black", it's unknown if that person is referred to their tan/dark skin, hair, or had a Saharan African origin.
19th May '17 9:41:25 PM MegaJ
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* Orchid from ''VideoGame/KillerInstinct''.

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* Orchid from ''VideoGame/KillerInstinct''. She's always had a brown skin tone compared to her [[LateArrivalSpoiler brother Jago]]; conflicting information about ''Killer Instinct's'' story either has her as Tibetan or Middle Eastern.
17th May '17 3:13:41 PM zaidthetroper
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** Roadhog is called Mako (a Maori name meaning shark) and some hints support he might be a Maori from New Zealand, from one recolor skin called "kiwi", using idioms from NZ in one of his quotes. His islander skins, while not accurate to one Polynesian culture, might support this theory.

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** Roadhog Roadhog's real name is called Mako (a Maori name meaning shark) and some hints support he might be a Maori from New Zealand, from one recolor skin called "kiwi", using idioms from NZ in one of his quotes.quotes and the lead writer Michael Chu suggesting Roadhog had a pet, it would have a kunekune pet (a domesticated pig from NZ). His islander skins, while not accurate to one Polynesian culture, might support this theory.
17th May '17 3:09:58 PM zaidthetroper
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** Roadhog is called Mako (a Maori name meaning shark) and some hints support he might be a Maori from New Zealand, from one recolor skin called "kiwi", using idioms from NZ in one of his quotes. His islander skins, while not accurate to one Polynesian culture, might support this theory.
16th May '17 3:33:08 PM MegaJ
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* ''Franchise/MortalKombat''.
** [[Characters/MortalKombat2 Jade]] and [[Characters/MortalKombat4 Tanya]] (to a lesser extent) fall under this speculation. Both characters live in Edenia, and Edenia itself is FantasyCounterpartCulture mishmash of Asian and Middle Eastern cultures which furthers the debate on just what the characters are supposed to be counterparts to in the real word. In the games, Jade has had a brown skin tone but in ''Film/MortalKombatAnnihilation'', she was portrayed by a Russian woman. Now speculation ranges from black, to Latina, to Filipino, the whole gamut. Tanya has been brown-skinned for all the the games (almost averted in ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'') but she is generally speculated to be black. In ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'' her attire and hair seem Egyptian inspired, but see the RealLife folder for why that doesn't help.
** There is also the widely overlooked example of [[Characters/MortalKombatDeception Darrius]]. He's Seidan like Hotaru (who is clearly Caucasian) and Dairou (who looks more Eurasian, if not straight-up Japanese), yet is ''obviously'' Black. It's possible that Edenia, Seido, and the other realms independent of Earthrealm don't even have ethnic differentiation, though.
15th May '17 7:51:30 AM dmcreif
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* ''Series/Daredevil2015'': Elektra Natchios in the comics was Greek in origin. However, in the show, she's played by Creator/ElodieYung, who is French-Cambodian. Eventually, it's revealed that Elektra is Greek by adoption, and like her actress, has Asian ancestry.

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* ''Series/Daredevil2015'': ''Series/TheDefenders2017'':
**''Series/Daredevil2015'': [[ComicBook/{{Elektra}}
Elektra Natchios Natchios]] in the comics was Greek in origin. However, in the show, she's ''Daredevil'' and ''The Defenders'', she is played by Creator/ElodieYung, who is French-Cambodian. Eventually, it's revealed that Elektra is Greek by adoption, and like her actress, has Asian ancestry.ancestry.
**''Series/IronFist2017'': Bakuto has a Japanese-sounding name, but Ramon Rodriguez, who plays him, is a Puerto Rican. In one episode, he mentions that his childhood boogeyman was [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_Man the Sack Man]], which implies Latino or Brazilian heritage. It's worth noting that in the comics, Bakuto ran a South American faction of the Hand.
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