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18th Aug '17 1:18:55 AM LorienTheYounger
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* ComicBook/LexLuthor in ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries''. He is slightly darker than many other characters, but he has fuller lips, a more prominent brow, and a voice that to many sounded like it had African-American accent (his voice actor, Clancy Brown, is white). He was supposed to look like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telly_Savalas Telly Savalas]], a Greek-American actor. In ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', he is given a lighter skin tone to rectify the confusion, which led some viewers to think he'd been given a RaceLift.

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* ComicBook/LexLuthor in ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries''. He has the same skin colour as Superman, which is slightly darker than many most of the other characters, white characters but he has fuller lips, a more prominent brow, and a voice that to many sounded like it had African-American accent (his voice actor, Clancy Brown, is white). He was supposed to look like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telly_Savalas Telly Savalas]], a Greek-American actor. In ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', he is given a lighter skin tone to rectify the confusion, which led some viewers to think he'd been given a RaceLift.
18th Aug '17 1:08:53 AM LorienTheYounger
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* According to WordOfGod, Julian Bashir from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' (played by Sudanese actor Alexander Siddig) was intended to be of no ethnicity recognisable to 20th/21st-century viewers. The name is Arabic and the character's accent is clearly British, so it's not too hard to make an educated guess as to his background. The actor himself was born in Sudan (and his full real name is Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi), to a Sudanese father and a British mother, and raised in London. So Bashir's "ethnicity" is the same as his actor's.

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* According to WordOfGod, Julian Bashir from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' (played by Sudanese actor Alexander Siddig) was intended to be of no ethnicity recognisable to 20th/21st-century viewers. The name is Arabic and the character's accent is clearly British, so it's not too hard to make an educated guess as to obvious ethnicity, although of course his background. surname is Arabic. The actor himself was born in Sudan (and his full real name is Alexander Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi), to a is of Sudanese father and a British mother, and English descent, raised in London. So When Bashir's "ethnicity" is the same as parents appear in one episode, his actor's.mother Amsha was played by Fadwa El Guindi (Egyptian) and his father Richard by Brian George (of Iraqi Jewish descent).
16th Aug '17 7:48:53 PM TheJayman49
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->''"[[WunzaPlot One's a baby, and the other's -- black.]] I think. At least, part black. Or Hispanic. I think, you know, there's possibly some Filipino in there. Yeah, possibly some Filipino. I mean, if he's--if he's black, it's definitely diluted. I mean, one of his parents must be white. What the hell is Creator/JessicaAlba for that matter? If I was 40 years younger, I would plow that until next July..."''
-->-- '''Creator/DonLaFontaine''', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', spoof trailer from a movie starring Stewie and Wrestling/DwayneJohnson.

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->''"[[WunzaPlot One's a baby, and the other's -- black.]] other's... black]]... I think. At least, part black. Or Hispanic. I think, you know, there's possibly some Filipino in there. Yeah, possibly some Filipino. I mean, if he's--if he's... if he's black, it's definitely diluted. I mean, one of his parents must be white.white... What the hell is Creator/JessicaAlba for that matter? If I was 40 years younger, I would plow that until next July..."''
-->-- '''Creator/DonLaFontaine''', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' on a spoof trailer from a movie starring Stewie and Wrestling/DwayneJohnson.
16th Aug '17 7:18:39 PM PistolsAtDawn
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* Nearly everyone in ''Webcomic/DenmaTheQuanx''. It takes place in a distant space-faring society, and most of the humans in the cast are various shades of brown with various hair colors. The main character has medium-brown skin and peach-colored hair. No one ever comments on this, so it seems that race isn't an issue in their society.
16th Aug '17 6:44:12 PM Pichu-kun
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* Melissa (and her dad, Eric) and, oddly, Josie from ''WesternAnimation/HomeMovies''. [[ChocolateBaby Maybe that explains the divorce?]]
** Except Josie's [[HappilyAdopted adopted.]]
* Rio from ''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}'' has a Latino surname and darker skin than the white characters but WordOfGod is it wasn't intentional to make him Latino.

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* Melissa (and her dad, Eric) and, oddly, Josie from ''WesternAnimation/HomeMovies''. [[ChocolateBaby Maybe that explains the divorce?]]
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divorce?]] Except Josie's [[HappilyAdopted adopted.]]
* Rio from ''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}'' has a Latino latino surname and darker skin than the white characters but WordOfGod is it wasn't intentional to make him Latino.latino. Future adaptations ignore this [[AscendedFanon and have as latino]].



* Several characters from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', though averted with Connie since WordOfGod has stated that she's Indian, even though there may have been some speculation from her debut in "Bubble Buddies", until the "Fusion Cuisine" episode, where her last name was revealed to be Maheswaran. A good portion of the voice cast is non-white to support this. Lars is notable, as in the unaired pilot he had brown skin and dark hair but in the final show he is noticeably lighter (though not quite light skinned) and has orange hair. WordOfGod is he is not white in the show and he was later confirmed to be part Flipino (and possibly mixed.) However, there are still a few brown human characters whose ethnicity has not yet been specified, such as Jamie, Kevin, and Buck.

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* Several characters from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', though averted with Connie since WordOfGod has stated that she's Indian, even though there may have been some speculation from her debut in "Bubble Buddies", until the "Fusion Cuisine" episode, where her last name was revealed to be Maheswaran. A good portion of the voice cast is non-white to support this. Lars is notable, as in the unaired pilot he had brown skin and dark hair but in the final show he is noticeably lighter (though not quite light skinned) and has orange hair. WordOfGod is he is not white in the show and he was later confirmed to be part Flipino filipino (and possibly mixed.) However, there are still a few brown human characters whose ethnicity has not yet been specified, such as Jamie, Kevin, and Buck.
16th Aug '17 6:40:03 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': Casca has medium brown skin, straight black hair, and a face type that's pretty unclear about her origins. For years fans have been arguing with each other over whether she's supposed to be black, Arab, East Indian, Southern European, mixed, or just about any other real-life brown race you can think of. ''Berserk'' does have races in the story who resemble black Africans and South Asians, but Casca looks ambiguous enough that she can't be indisputably categorized with either. It's entirely possible that Creator/KentaroMiura just wanted to give her a unique appearance without having a particular intention about her race, since he hasn't commented on the issue. Making matters even more muddled, the ''Golden Age'' film trilogy and ''Anime/Berserk2016'' depict Casca's skin as a [[ButNotTooBlack much lighter shade of tan]] than in the manga, while making her hair dark brown or reddish-brown instead of black.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'':
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Casca has medium brown skin, straight black hair, and a face type that's pretty unclear about her origins. For years fans have been arguing with each other over whether she's supposed to be black, Arab, East Indian, Southern European, mixed, or just about any other real-life brown race you can think of. ''Berserk'' does have races in the story who resemble black Africans and South Asians, but Casca looks ambiguous enough that she can't be indisputably categorized with either. It's entirely possible that Creator/KentaroMiura just wanted to give her a unique appearance without having a particular intention about her race, since he hasn't commented on the issue. Making matters even more muddled, the ''Golden Age'' film trilogy and ''Anime/Berserk2016'' depict Casca's skin as a [[ButNotTooBlack much lighter shade of tan]] than in the manga, while making her hair dark brown or reddish-brown instead of black.



** Skyla is given a darker skin tone in the anime however it's ambiguous if it's a tan or not.
** As in the games, there is Iris. Fans usually consider her either black or Native American but there isn't much to go on besides her being darker than Ash.

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** Skyla is given a darker skin tone in the anime anime, however it's ambiguous if it's a tan or not.
** As in the games, there is Iris. Fans usually consider her either black or Native American American, but there isn't much to go on besides her being darker than Ash.Ash.
** WordOfGod is that Tracey was designed to seem white and replace the more Asian-looking Brock. Despite this, Tracey has a Japanese name in the Japanese version and nothing in-series suggests he's a different ethnicity from any other Kanto character (who are most likely all Japanese bar Lt. Surge).



* Queen Marisol from the ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' licensed book "A Warm Welcome" comes from a warm country, has black hair, and has darker skin than Elsa. Her name being Spanish implies she is from a [[LatinoIsBrown Latin American]] [[FantasyCounterpartCulture inspired country]]. It is also possible she's Middle Eastern due to the names of others from her country.

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* Queen Marisol from the ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' licensed book "A "Literature/AnnaAndElsa: A Warm Welcome" comes from a warm country, has black hair, and has darker skin than Elsa. Her name being Spanish implies she is from a [[LatinoIsBrown Latin American]] [[FantasyCounterpartCulture inspired country]]. It is also possible she's Middle Eastern due to the names of others from her country.



* In the AmericanGirlsCollection of dolls, none of the "tan" Just Like You dolls are given a specific race, and can generally be whatever the purchaser chooses. The tan dolls now actually have more facial diversity than the light ones. Sometimes this happens with the dolls that are given a specific race. For example, the face template used for the Girl of the Year doll Sonali, who is Indian, is not too different from the template for Addy, who is African-American.

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* In the AmericanGirlsCollection ''Franchise/AmericanGirlsCollection'' of dolls, none of the "tan" Just Like You dolls are given a specific race, and can generally be whatever the purchaser chooses. The tan dolls now actually have more facial diversity than the light ones. Sometimes this happens with the dolls that are given a specific race. For example, the face template used for the Girl of the Year doll Sonali, who is Indian, is not too different from the template for Addy, who is African-American.



** During the ''UsefulNotes/{{Nintendo 64}}'' era, Princess Daisy had a tan (possibly to distinguish her more from Princess Peach). She was like this even in her ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'' costume and in her trophy. Daisy is from a country with a desert. She went back to her original light tone starting with the fourth ''VideoGame/MarioParty'' game (though in turn she received slightly altered attire and a haircut).

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** During the ''UsefulNotes/{{Nintendo 64}}'' era, Princess Daisy had a tan (possibly to distinguish her more from Princess Peach). She was like this even in her ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'' costume and in her trophy. Daisy is from a country with a desert, but it isn't exclusively desert. She went back to her original light tone starting with the fourth ''VideoGame/MarioParty'' game (though in turn she received slightly altered attire and a haircut).



* Several characters from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', though averted with Connie since WordOfGod has stated that she's Indian, even though there may have been some speculation from her debut in "Bubble Buddies", until the "Fusion Cuisine" episode, where her last name was revealed to be Maheswaran. A good portion of the voice cast is non-white to support this. Lars is notable, as in the unaired pilot he had brown skin and dark hair but in the final show he is noticeably lighter (though not quite light skinned) and has orange hair. WordOfGod is he is not white in the show.
** Lars has since been confirmed to be of Filipino descent (and possibly mixed.) However, there are still a few brown human characters whose ethnicity has not yet been specified, such as Jamie, Kevin, and Buck.

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* Several characters from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', though averted with Connie since WordOfGod has stated that she's Indian, even though there may have been some speculation from her debut in "Bubble Buddies", until the "Fusion Cuisine" episode, where her last name was revealed to be Maheswaran. A good portion of the voice cast is non-white to support this. Lars is notable, as in the unaired pilot he had brown skin and dark hair but in the final show he is noticeably lighter (though not quite light skinned) and has orange hair. WordOfGod is he is not white in the show.
** Lars has since been
show and he was later confirmed to be of Filipino descent part Flipino (and possibly mixed.) However, there are still a few brown human characters whose ethnicity has not yet been specified, such as Jamie, Kevin, and Buck.
12th Aug '17 4:51:51 PM nonn99
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** Lars has since been confirmed to be of Filipino descent (and possibly mixed.) However, there are still a few brown human characters whose ethnicity has not yet been specified, such as Jamie, Kevin, and Buck.
8th Aug '17 11:49:59 PM GMantis
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* There's still a good deal of debate as to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy what the ancient Egyptians looked like]]. According to their own paintings, they were dark tan to black.

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* There's still a good deal of debate as to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy what the ancient Egyptians looked like]]. According to their own paintings, they were dark tan to black.
6th Aug '17 8:21:48 PM ElectroKraken
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* The whole Taiyou's school in ''Anime/Eyeshield21'' are Japanese with brown skin. Handwaved that since they live so close to the beach they surf a lot and fashion Ancient Egypt as the school's [[PlanetOfHat hats]].

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* The whole Taiyou's school in ''Anime/Eyeshield21'' are Japanese with brown skin. Handwaved that since they live so close to the beach they surf a lot and fashion Ancient Egypt as the school's [[PlanetOfHat [[PlanetOfHats hats]].



* Esmeralda from ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'' is a roma and this is addressed multiple times in the movie itself. However, she has notably darker skin than the other members of her people, as well as green eyes which has been known to confuse viewers. Not helped by the fact that many people do not even know that roma exist in real life or what their actual characteristics are.

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* Esmeralda from ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'' is a roma Roma and this is addressed multiple times in the movie itself. However, she has notably darker skin than the other members of her people, as well as green eyes which has been known to confuse viewers. Not helped by the fact that many people do not even know that roma Roma exist in real life or what their actual characteristics are.



* ''Film/DearWhitePeople'': {{Creator/TessaThompson}}'s Sam White gets this reaction repeatedly and resents it. Gabe goes so far as to accuse her of playing up a "Tragic Mulatto" front. Sam herself identifies unambiguously as black, and does not once question, deny, or attempt to hide her own blackness. In fact she gets accused of overcompensating due to this.

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* ''Film/DearWhitePeople'': {{Creator/TessaThompson}}'s Creator/TessaThompson's Sam White gets this reaction repeatedly and resents it. Gabe goes so far as to accuse her of playing up a "Tragic Mulatto" front. Sam herself identifies unambiguously as black, and does not once question, deny, or attempt to hide her own blackness. In fact she gets accused of overcompensating due to this.



* ''TabletopGame/warhammer40K'': DependingOnTheWriter, the Salamanders Chapter have skin tones that are brown to black (as in RealLife) or jet-black skin that would never occur naturally.

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* ''TabletopGame/warhammer40K'': ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40K'': DependingOnTheWriter, the Salamanders Chapter have skin tones that are brown to black (as in RealLife) or jet-black skin that would never occur naturally.



* ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'''

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3rd Aug '17 10:05:37 PM MegaJ
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[[quoteright:320:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/asd_9.jpeg]] [[caption-width-right:320:[[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTeamAvatar Sokka]], you rock those [[BlueEyes baby blues]].]]

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[[quoteright:320:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/asd_9.jpeg]] [[caption-width-right:320:[[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTeamAvatar Sokka]], you rock those [[BlueEyes baby blues]].]]
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