History Main / AmbiguouslyBrown

23rd Apr '17 7:37:37 PM Katsuhagi
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* On the ''Website/RejectedPrincesses'' site, writer and illustrator Jason Porath will often cite this as something he's done if a historical woman's ethnicity is a bit of a question mark by modern standards, for instance both [[http://www.rejectedprincesses.com/princesses/tomyris Tomyris]] and [[http://www.rejectedprincesses.com/princesses/tirgatao Tirgatao]] were both "Scythians" but the historical records conflict a fair bit on how exactly they looked since it was actually a pretty broad category, so he went for a middle ground.

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* On the ''Website/RejectedPrincesses'' site, writer and illustrator Jason Porath will often cite this as something he's done if a historical woman's ethnicity is a bit of a question mark by modern standards, for instance both [[http://www.rejectedprincesses.com/princesses/tomyris Tomyris]] and [[http://www.rejectedprincesses.com/princesses/tirgatao Tirgatao]] were both "Scythians" but the historical records conflict a fair bit on how exactly they looked since it was actually a pretty broad category, so he went for a middle ground.ground and figured that both would have been out in the sun a lot regardless.
22nd Apr '17 7:49:19 PM Fireblood
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* ''Film/DearWhitePeople'': {{Creator/TessaThompson}}'s Sam White gets this reaction repeatedly and resents it. Gabe goes so far as to accuse her of playing up a "Tragic Mulatto" front. Sam herself identifies unambiguously as black, and does not once question, deny, or attempt to hide her own blackness. In fact she gets accused of overcompensating due to this.
22nd Apr '17 2:06:37 AM aureolindays
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* ''Franchise/MortalKombat''.
** [[Characters/MortalKombat2 Jade]] from It seemed like she was black (dark skinned model/recolor), but in the film ''Film/MortalKombatAnnihilation'', she was portrayed by a Russian woman. Now speculation ranges from black, to Latina, to Filipino, the whole gamut. To further add to the speculation, the original casting call for ''VideoGame/MortalKombat9'', asked for Jade to be voiced by an African-American or Middle Eastern woman. Judging by the wardrobe, Edenia seems vaguely [[UsefulNotes/TheMiddleEast Middle Eastern]]-inspired so calling Jade Black/Indian/Middle Eastern could all fit.
** [[Characters/MortalKombat4 Tanya]] falls under this speculation too, under a lesser extent. She's generally speculated to be black. In ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'' her attire and hair seem Egyptian inspired, but see the RealLife folder for why that doesn't help.
** There is also the widely overlooked example of [[Characters/MortalKombatDeception Darrius]]. He's Seidan like Hotaru (who is clearly Caucasian) and Dairou (who looks more Eurasian, if not straight-up Japanese), yet is ''obviously'' Black. It's possible that Edenia, Seido, and the other realms independent of Earthrealm don't even have ethnic differentiation, though.



* Christy Monteiro from the ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'' series has a pretty divided fanbase on what ethnicity she actually is. When they were casting an actress for the live action movie, cue complaints about Christy being black, Hispanic, Italian and even Asian. The character was modeled after Tyra Banks and has a grandfather with Asian features. She's also from Brazil, which is a melting pot of nationalities.

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* Christy Christie Monteiro from the ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'' series has a pretty divided fanbase on what ethnicity she actually is. When they were casting an actress for the live action movie, cue complaints about Christy being black, Hispanic, Italian and even Asian. The character was modeled after Tyra Banks and has a grandfather with Asian features. She's also Serves as TruthInTelevision, as she hails from Brazil, which is home to a melting pot myriad of nationalities.ethnic blends and mixes, or pardos. She could very well be mulatto (Black + White), cafuzo (Black + Indian), Caboclo (Indian + White), Jucara (Black + Indian + White), Ainoco (Japanese + White), among possibly many others.
20th Apr '17 9:27:10 AM FF32
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* Zen, one of the [[OriginalGeneration new characters]] introduced in ''{{VideoGame/Persona Q}}'', is this, having light brown skin, green eyes, and somewhat curly dark brown hair. [[spoiler:A late game reveal shows that he's actually an aspect of Chronos, the Greek god of time, and TheGrimReaper, so his looks can be chalked up to not being human. There are also a number of artistic portrayals of Chronos having dark skin, so his looks carry some RealLife connections as well.]]

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* Zen, one of the [[OriginalGeneration new characters]] introduced in ''{{VideoGame/Persona Q}}'', ''VideoGame/PersonaQShadowOfTheLabyrinth'', is this, having light brown skin, green eyes, and somewhat curly dark brown hair. [[spoiler:A late game reveal shows that he's actually an aspect of Chronos, the Greek god of time, and TheGrimReaper, so his looks can be chalked up to not being human. There are also a number of artistic portrayals of Chronos having dark skin, so his looks carry some RealLife connections as well.]]
10th Apr '17 10:58:30 PM K2Misfit
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** Except Josie's [[HappilyAdopted adopted.]]
7th Apr '17 2:26:02 PM Abodos
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** In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', the Old Man who guides you in the opening area has a distinct greyish-brown skintone. Combined with his enigmatic nature, this resulted in some early fan speculation that he was secretly an incarnation of Ganondorf. Gets weirder when it turns out [[spoiler:he's actually King Rhoam Bosphoramus Hyrule, the father of the pale Zelda. Presumably, his wife was ''very'' light-skinned.]]
6th Apr '17 2:53:11 PM Salsh_Loli
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** This is certainly true because the term "black" back then simply means someone who has very dark complexion or hair, not "black" as in referring to a particular race as we know of today (in fact, the conception of race is actually a [[NewerThanTheyThink new]]). Evident when Ancient Greeks called Egyptians and Victorian British to the Indians "black". So this further complicates whenever a particular historical figure was mention to be "black", it's unknown if that person is referred to their tan/dark skin, hair, or had an African origin.

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** This is certainly true because the term "black" back then simply means someone who has very dark complexion or hair, not "black" as in referring to a particular race as we know of today (in fact, the conception of race is actually a [[NewerThanTheyThink new]]). Evident when Ancient Greeks called Egyptians and Victorian British to the Indians "black". So this further complicates whenever a particular historical figure was mention to be "black", it's unknown if that person is referred to their tan/dark skin, hair, or had an a Saharan African origin.
5th Apr '17 10:42:34 PM Salsh_Loli
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** This is certainly true because the term "black" back then simply means someone who has very dark complexion, not "black" as in referring to a particular race as we know of today (in fact, the conception of race is actually a [[NewerThanTheyThink new]]). Evident when Ancient Greeks called Egyptians and Victorian British to the Indians "black". So this further complicates whenever a particular historical figure was mention to be "black", it's unknown if that person is either tan/dark-brown or had an African origin.

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** This is certainly true because the term "black" back then simply means someone who has very dark complexion, complexion or hair, not "black" as in referring to a particular race as we know of today (in fact, the conception of race is actually a [[NewerThanTheyThink new]]). Evident when Ancient Greeks called Egyptians and Victorian British to the Indians "black". So this further complicates whenever a particular historical figure was mention to be "black", it's unknown if that person is either tan/dark-brown referred to their tan/dark skin, hair, or had an African origin.
5th Apr '17 10:40:13 PM Salsh_Loli
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** This is certainly true because the term "black" back then simply means someone who has very dark complexion, not "black" as in referring to a particular race as we know of today (in fact, the conception of race is actually a [[NewerThanTheyThink new]]). Evident when Ancient Greeks called Egyptians and Victorian British to the Indians "black". So this further complicates whenever a particular historical figure was mention to be "black", it's unknown if that person is either tan/dark-brown or had an African origin.
2nd Apr '17 2:58:25 PM DisagreeableSandwich
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* Kako in ''Series/{{Oobi}}''. All of the characters are literal bare-hand puppets, so it's difficult to tell. His parents look and sound African-American, but he uses Spanish phrases constantly.
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