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* Inverted in ''Film/TheRageCarrie2''. School psychologist Sue Snell, having survived [[{{Carrie}} the first film]], is the first person to realize that Rachel has PsychicPowers. Everybody else only finds out [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge much too late]].

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* Inverted in ''Film/TheRageCarrie2''. School psychologist Sue Snell, having survived [[{{Carrie}} the first film]], is the first person to realize that Rachel has PsychicPowers. PsychicPowers, and makes a special effort to try and talk her through her issues. Everybody else only finds out about Rachel's powers [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge much too late]].
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* Inverted in ''Film/TheRageCarrie2''. School psychologist Sue Snell, having survived [[{{Carrie}} the first film]], is the first person to realize that Rachel has PsychicPowers. Everybody else only finds out [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge much too late]].
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* {{Subverted}} in ''YoungJustice''--BlackCanary is apparently a therapist in this continuity and has counseling sessions with each Team member after the traumatic events of "Failsafe."

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* {{Subverted}} in ''YoungJustice''--BlackCanary ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice''--BlackCanary is apparently a therapist in this continuity and has counseling sessions with each Team member after the traumatic events of "Failsafe."
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* {{Subverted}} in ''{{Zatanna}}'' when she attends a group therapy session for people who have experienced supernatural occurrences.
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* {{Subverted}} in ''YoungJustice''--BlackCanary is apparently a therapist in this continuity and has counseling sessions with each Team member after the traumatic events of "Failsafe."
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** In the pages of SpiderMan, the third character to adopt the Green Goblin identity was a therapist named Bart Hamilton. Hamilton was originally the thera[ist for NormanOsborn's son Harry. His life of super-villainy was short lived, however.

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** In the pages of SpiderMan, the third character to adopt the Green Goblin identity was a therapist named Bart Hamilton. Hamilton was originally the thera[ist therapist for NormanOsborn's son Harry. His life of super-villainy was short lived, however.
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* In TheSarahConnorChronicles, John Connor and Cameron both see a therapist as part of a plot to [[spoiler:kidnap a terminator's daughter]]. The psychiatrist quickly diagnoses the teenaged John with something like ShellShock because he checks the exists like a combat veteran and he wonders if Cameron is autistic. John has real problems but he can't be honest with the therapist about them. Naturally, the therapist correctly identifies him as a liar.

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* In TheSarahConnorChronicles, John Connor and Cameron both see a therapist as part of a plot to [[spoiler:kidnap a terminator's daughter]]. The psychiatrist quickly diagnoses the teenaged John with something like ShellShock shell shock because he checks the exists exits like a combat veteran and he wonders if Cameron is autistic. John has real problems but he can't be honest with the therapist about them. Naturally, the therapist correctly identifies him as a liar.
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*In TheSarahConnorChronicles, John Connor and Cameron both see a therapist as part of a plot to [[spoiler:kidnap a terminator's daughter]]. The psychiatrist quickly diagnoses the teenaged John with something like ShellShock because he checks the exists like a combat veteran and he wonders if Cameron is autistic. John has real problems but he can't be honest with the therapist about them. Naturally, the therapist correctly identifies him as a liar.
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* Subverted in YoungWizards. Nita assumes this about the school counseller, and it's true that he isn't a wizard, [[spoiler: but he's in on the secret and even gets the main cast out of school during ''Wizards at War'' so that they're free to prevent [[ApocalypseHow the end of the universe]].]]
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* The cast of ''Videogame/{{Persona}}'' is a group of teens who frequently go into a twisted, bloody version of their school where they are in danger of being killed by ''their repressed feelings'' and fight monsters by shooting themselves in the head with guns that fire ''psychological trauma''. Ken is so bad he was going to commit suicide after getting his revenge against a certain individual. But since no therapist would believe them about the Dark Hour, they’re on their own.

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* The cast of ''Videogame/{{Persona}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' is a group of teens who frequently go into a twisted, bloody version of their school where they are in danger of being killed by ''their repressed feelings'' and fight monsters by shooting themselves in the head with guns that fire ''psychological trauma''. Ken is so bad he was going to commit suicide after getting his revenge against a certain individual. But since no therapist would believe them about the Dark Hour, they’re on their own.
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It\'s the same character in both movies...


* The police psychiatrist in ''Film/{{Terminator}}'' and the hospital administrator in ''Terminator 2'' aren't for one moment going to take stories of time-traveling killer androids seriously.

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* The police psychiatrist in ''Film/{{Terminator}}'' and the hospital administrator in ''Terminator 2'' aren't isn't for one moment going to take stories of time-traveling killer androids seriously.
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*** Actually inverted a bit because Buffy will sometimes tell they are having supernatural problems even when the students are muggles.

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* In the FilmOfTheBook ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia: PrinceCaspian'', Peter and his siblings lived into adulthood in Narnia, a magical land inside a wardrobe, and now are stuck in a world that treats them as children so despite having problems like getting into fights and struggling to relate to other people, trying to explain those issues to a [[Muggle]] therapist would probably get them sectioned.

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* In the FilmOfTheBook ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia: PrinceCaspian'', Peter and his siblings lived into adulthood in Narnia, a magical land inside a wardrobe, and now are stuck in a world that treats them as children so despite having problems like getting into fights and struggling to relate to other people, trying to explain those issues to a [[Muggle]] Muggle therapist would probably get them sectioned.


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* In a deleted scene of ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'', Bruce tries to explain his condition to therapist Leonard Samson, but all he can safely say is that "there are aspects of my personality that I can't control." Samson mistakes it for just anger management problems, but does perceive the Bruce is holding part of the info back and is annoyed that he does so.
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* There is one case of a muggle therapist from SpiderMan. Dr. Kafka was the head therapist at Ravencroft, a prison for insane super-villains. She treated the aforementioned Harry Osborn as well as other Spider-Man villains. She was actually successful in her treatment for the most part.

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** There's also Moonstone from ''Comicbook/ThunderBolts'', but she's more likely to deliberately make your problems worse for her own fun and profit than to try to help you.

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** There's also Moonstone from ''Comicbook/ThunderBolts'', ''ThunderBolts'', but she's more likely to deliberately make your problems worse for her own fun and profit than to try to help you.

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* In MarvelComics, there is ''one'' non-Muggle psychologist: Doc Samson, whom apparently all the supers in the world consult with their problems[[note]](there are others in the know with such training, but [[MindRape their usual]] [[BrainwashedAndCrazy standards of treatment]] are worse than most conceivable psychological problems)[[/note]]. Except not lately, because Doc Samson has been evil, dead or both.
** There's also Moonstone, but she's more likely to deliberately make your problems worse for her own fun and profit than to try to help you.

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* In MarvelComics, there Averted in MarvelComics
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is ''one'' non-Muggle psychologist: gamma-irradiated psychologist [[{{Hulk}} Doc Samson, whom Samson]], who apparently all the supers in the world consult with their problems[[note]](there are others in the know with such training, but [[MindRape their usual]] [[BrainwashedAndCrazy standards of treatment]] are worse than most conceivable psychological problems)[[/note]]. Except not lately, because Doc Samson has been evil, dead or both.
** There's also Moonstone, Moonstone from ''Comicbook/ThunderBolts'', but she's more likely to deliberately make your problems worse for her own fun and profit than to try to help you.you.
** In the pages of SpiderMan, the third character to adopt the Green Goblin identity was a therapist named Bart Hamilton. Hamilton was originally the thera[ist for NormanOsborn's son Harry. His life of super-villainy was short lived, however.
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* In ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'', Suzie [[ExploitedTrope exploits this trope]] as part of a plan for her own resurrection. Under cover of talking through her work-related issues, she attends a support group regularly armed with [[LaserGuidedAmnesia the drug]] Torchwood uses to maintain TheMasquerade. To her colleagues, this initially appears to be a reasonable solution to the lack of therapists who know about Torchwood and aliens but they soon piece together that [[spoiler:she was actually using the drug and the support group sessions to secretly turn her confidant into an AxCrazy serial killer and living backdoor to the Torchwood security system.]]
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* The police psychiatrist in ''Film/{{Terminator}}'' and the hospital administrator in ''Terminator 2'' aren't for one moment going to take stories of time-traveling killer cyborgs seriously.

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* The police psychiatrist in ''Film/{{Terminator}}'' and the hospital administrator in ''Terminator 2'' aren't for one moment going to take stories of time-traveling killer cyborgs androids seriously.
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** There's also Moonstone, but she's more likely to deliberately make your problems worse for her own fun and profit than to try to help you.
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She fed him retcon purposefully as part of plan that involved being killed and revived. She conditioned the serial killer to say a phrase to lock down Torchwood.


* In ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'', Suzie went to a support group to talk through her work-related issues but due to [[{{Masquerade}} the need for secrecy]], she had to drug her confidant [[LaserGuidedAmnesia to make him forget]] and [[spoiler:unfortunately, this turned him into an AxCrazy serial killer.]]
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* In ''Series/Sliders'', all the sliders need therapy, given that they (usually permanently) leave one universe for another every couple of days and the experience isn't always pleasant. Hell, the original sliders' home Earth is now in the hands of a bloodthirsty humanoid race with a taste for human eyeballs. Only one episode involves a visit to a shrink, and that one involves Rembrandt needing to vent his doubts about whether Professor Arturo is "their" Arturo. The shrink thinks that Rembrandt is completely nuts and calls a mental hospital to commit him. After witnessing a slide, he himself suffers a breakdown and is taken away.

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* In ''Series/Sliders'', ''Series/{{Sliders}}'', all the sliders need therapy, given that they (usually permanently) leave one universe for another every couple of days and the experience isn't always pleasant. Hell, the original sliders' home Earth is now in the hands of a bloodthirsty humanoid race with a taste for human eyeballs. Only one episode involves a visit to a shrink, and that one involves Rembrandt needing to vent his doubts about whether Professor Arturo is "their" Arturo. The shrink thinks that Rembrandt is completely nuts and calls a mental hospital to commit him. After witnessing a slide, he himself suffers a breakdown and is taken away.
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* In ''Series/Sliders'', all the sliders need therapy, given that they (usually permanently) leave one universe for another every couple of days and the experience isn't always pleasant. Hell, the original sliders' home Earth is now in the hands of a bloodthirsty humanoid race with a taste for human eyeballs. Only one episode involves a visit to a shrink, and that one involves Rembrandt needing to vent his doubts about whether Professor Arturo is "their" Arturo. The shrink thinks that Rembrandt is completely nuts and calls a mental hospital to commit him. After witnessing a slide, he himself suffers a breakdown and is taken away.
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'''Sam:''' Probably because I started the apocalypse.\\

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-->-- ''Supernatural'', ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', "Sam; Interrupted"



* Fakir and Rue from ''PrincessTutu'' could definitely use some therapy considering their [[ParentalAbandonment issues]], but they'd have to find a therapist who would be able to swallow the idea that part of their problems stem from being characters in a fairytale.

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* Fakir and Rue from ''PrincessTutu'' ''Anime/PrincessTutu'' could definitely use some therapy considering their [[ParentalAbandonment issues]], but they'd have to find a therapist who would be able to swallow the idea that part of their problems stem from being characters in a fairytale.



* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] regularly in the HarryPotter fandom to explain why the many characters with serious issues and traumatic backgrounds can’t get therapy.

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* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] regularly in the HarryPotter ''Literature/HarryPotter'' fandom to explain why the many characters with serious issues and traumatic backgrounds can’t get therapy.



* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the author's notes of [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4004316/10/Windows_of_the_Soul "Windows of the Soul"]], a ''MaiHime'' fanfic that deals with Shizuru's lingering guilt over her actions late in the series and the implications they have for her relationship with Natsuki.

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* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the author's notes of [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4004316/10/Windows_of_the_Soul "Windows of the Soul"]], a ''MaiHime'' ''Anime/{{Mai-HiME}}'' fanfic that deals with Shizuru's lingering guilt over her actions late in the series and the implications they have for her relationship with Natsuki.



* The psychiatrist consulted in ''TheMask'' doesn't believe that the mask could have any supernatural properties.

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* The psychiatrist consulted in ''TheMask'' ''Film/TheMask'' doesn't believe that the mask could have any supernatural properties.



* In ''{{Blade}} 3'', a famous psychologist goes on record on TV that Blade is crazy... but it's revealed that he's a Familiar to the ruling vampires (basically their stooge).
* Played straight and subverted in ''ANightmareOnElmStreet 3'', in that one of the therapists trying to help the Freddy-plagued kids is actually willing to admit the possibility they [[spoiler:and Nancy]] encounter a supernatural threat. The other, unfortunately, assumes they're delusional and has one of them sedated: the ''worst'' possible outcome of this trope, under the circumstances.
** Inverted in ''Freddy vs. Jason'': [[spoiler:The mental hospital staff in Springwood know damn well that Freddy is for real, and use Hypnocil and fraudulent institutionalization of witnesses to ensure that Freddy's potential victims remain Muggles. That way, the dream-stalking killer can't gain strength from their fear.]]
* The police psychiatrist in ''{{Terminator}}'' and the hospital administrator in ''Terminator 2'' aren't for one moment going to take stories of time-traveling killer cyborgs seriously.

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* In ''{{Blade}} ''Film/{{Blade}} 3'', a famous psychologist goes on record on TV that Blade is crazy... but it's revealed that he's a Familiar to the ruling vampires (basically their stooge).
* Played straight and subverted in ''ANightmareOnElmStreet ''Franchise/ANightmareOnElmStreet 3'', in that one of the therapists trying to help the Freddy-plagued kids is actually willing to admit the possibility they [[spoiler:and Nancy]] encounter a supernatural threat. The other, unfortunately, assumes they're delusional and has one of them sedated: the ''worst'' possible outcome of this trope, under the circumstances.
** Inverted in ''Freddy vs. Jason'': ''Film/FreddyVsJason'': [[spoiler:The mental hospital staff in Springwood know damn well that Freddy is for real, and use Hypnocil and fraudulent institutionalization of witnesses to ensure that Freddy's potential victims remain Muggles. That way, the dream-stalking killer can't gain strength from their fear.]]
* The police psychiatrist in ''{{Terminator}}'' ''Film/{{Terminator}}'' and the hospital administrator in ''Terminator 2'' aren't for one moment going to take stories of time-traveling killer cyborgs seriously.



* [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy]] sees a counselor in season 2 who has no idea about vampires and the like, though he turns out to be a pretty good counselor anyway, and figures out what her problem essentially is minus the supernatural elements. [[spoiler:Then he gets killed by a Hulk expy.]]

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* [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy]] In ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' Buffy sees a counselor in season 2 the episode "Beauty and the Beasts" who has no idea about vampires and the like, though he turns out to be a pretty good counselor anyway, and figures out what her problem essentially is minus the supernatural elements. [[spoiler:Then he gets killed by a Hulk expy.]]



* The cast of ''{{Persona}}'' is a group of teens who frequently go into a twisted, bloody version of their school where they are in danger of being killed by ''their repressed feelings'' and fight monsters by shooting themselves in the head with guns that fire ''psychological trauma''. Ken is so bad he was going to commit suicide after getting his revenge against a certain individual. But since no therapist would believe them about the Dark Hour, they’re on their own.

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* The cast of ''{{Persona}}'' ''Videogame/{{Persona}}'' is a group of teens who frequently go into a twisted, bloody version of their school where they are in danger of being killed by ''their repressed feelings'' and fight monsters by shooting themselves in the head with guns that fire ''psychological trauma''. Ken is so bad he was going to commit suicide after getting his revenge against a certain individual. But since no therapist would believe them about the Dark Hour, they’re on their own.
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->''"Dr. Fuller: Why don’t you tell me how you’re feeling?\\
Sam: I'm fine. I mean, okay, a little depressed, I guess.\\
Dr. Fuller: Alright – any idea why?\\
Sam: Probably because I started the apocalypse.\\
…(Doctor smiles weakly, then picks up his phone)."''
-->-- '''Supernatural''', "Sam; Interrupted"

Sometimes, characters needs therapy to cope with what's happened to them, but the events they would need to talk about are part of some [[TheMasquerade Big Secret]] that would sound delusional to outsiders. Unfortunately, there are no therapists that ''aren't'' outsiders.

To make matters worse, the character can’t or won’t creatively edit their story. Maybe to add insult to injury, the author finishes an adventure by winding back time so only this character remembers what happened or has them followed by a shadowy government agency charged with enforcing TheMasquerade.

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->''"Dr. Fuller: ->'''Dr. Fuller:''' Why don’t you tell me how you’re feeling?\\
Sam: '''Sam:''' I'm fine. I mean, okay, a little depressed, I guess.\\
Dr. Fuller: Alright '''Dr. Fuller:''' All right – any idea why?\\
Sam: '''Sam:''' Probably because I started the apocalypse.\\
…(Doctor smiles weakly, then picks up his phone)."''
phone).
-->-- '''Supernatural''', ''Supernatural'', "Sam; Interrupted"

Sometimes, characters needs need therapy to cope with what's happened to them, but the events they would need to talk about are part of some [[TheMasquerade Big Secret]] that would sound delusional to outsiders. Unfortunately, there are no therapists that ''aren't'' outsiders.

To make matters worse, the character can’t or won’t creatively edit their his story. Maybe to add insult to injury, the author finishes an adventure by winding back time so only this character remembers what happened happened, or has them him followed by a shadowy government agency charged with enforcing TheMasquerade.



You ''could'' try and get the help you need anyways but your {{Muggle}} therapist will probably get quite the wrong idea. Cue men in white coats wrestling you into a straight jacket.

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You ''could'' try and to get the help you need anyways anyway, but your {{Muggle}} therapist will probably get quite the wrong idea. Cue men in white coats wrestling you into a straight jacket.
straitjacket.



Options remaining: Go AxCrazy, [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil Join]] TheDarkSide, Die [[DrivenToSuicide at your own hand]] or [[SuicideMission another's]], [[LaserGuidedAmnesia Take]] [[RedPillBluePill the blue]] [[TheMatrix pill]], be KilledToUpholdTheMasquerade

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Options remaining: Go AxCrazy, [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil Join]] join]] TheDarkSide, Die die [[DrivenToSuicide at your own hand]] or [[SuicideMission another's]], [[LaserGuidedAmnesia Take]] take]] [[RedPillBluePill the blue]] [[TheMatrix pill]], or be KilledToUpholdTheMasquerade
KilledToUpholdTheMasquerade.






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* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] regularly in the Harry Potter fandom to explain why the many characters with serious issues and traumatic backgrounds can’t get therapy.

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* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] regularly in the Harry Potter HarryPotter fandom to explain why the many characters with serious issues and traumatic backgrounds can’t get therapy.



* [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in the ''HarryPotter'' fanfic "[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4842696/1/Reparations Reparations]]", Draco Malfoy is a therapist in the drug rehab wing of St Mungo's and argues that wizards have to have their own rehab because if wizards only had muggle therapists and groups, they would have to edit magic out of their accounts and that would sabotage the process and doom the patient to failure.
* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the author's notes of [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4004316/10/Windows_of_the_Soul Windows of the Soul]], a MaiHime fanfic that deals with Shizuru's lingering guilt over her actions late in the series and the implications they have for her relationship with Natsuki.

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* [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in the ''HarryPotter'' ''Harry Potter'' fanfic "[[http://www.[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4842696/1/Reparations Reparations]]", "Reparations"]]. Draco Malfoy is a therapist in the drug rehab wing of St Mungo's and argues that wizards have to have their own rehab because if wizards only had muggle therapists and groups, they would have to edit magic out of their accounts and that would sabotage the process and doom the patient to failure.
* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the author's notes of [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4004316/10/Windows_of_the_Soul Windows "Windows of the Soul]], Soul"]], a MaiHime ''MaiHime'' fanfic that deals with Shizuru's lingering guilt over her actions late in the series and the implications they have for her relationship with Natsuki.



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* In MarvelComics there is ''one'' non-Muggle psychologist (Doc Samson) who apparently every super in the world goes to with their problems[[note]](there are others in the know with such training, but [[MindRape their usual]] [[BrainwashedAndCrazy standards of treatment]] are worse than most conceivable psychological problems)[[/note]]. Except not lately, because he has been evil and/or dead.

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* In MarvelComics MarvelComics, there is ''one'' non-Muggle psychologist (Doc Samson) who psychologist: Doc Samson, whom apparently every super all the supers in the world goes to consult with their problems[[note]](there are others in the know with such training, but [[MindRape their usual]] [[BrainwashedAndCrazy standards of treatment]] are worse than most conceivable psychological problems)[[/note]]. Except not lately, because he Doc Samson has been evil and/or dead.evil, dead or both.



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* The psychiatrist consulted in TheMask doesn't believe that the mask could have any supernatural properties.

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* The psychiatrist consulted in TheMask ''TheMask'' doesn't believe that the mask could have any supernatural properties.



* In {{Blade}} 3, a famous psychologist goes on record on TV that Blade is crazy... only for it to be revealed he's a Familiar to the ruling vampires (basically their stooge).
* Played straight and subverted in ''ANightmareOnElmStreet 3'', in that one of the therapists trying to help the Freddy-plagued kids is actually willing to admit the possibility they [[spoiler: and Nancy]] are faced with a supernatural threat. The other, unfortunately, assumes they're delusional and has one of them sedated: the ''worst'' possible outcome of this trope, under the circumstances.
** Inverted in ''Freddy vs. Jason'': [[spoiler: the mental-hospital staff in Springwood know damn well that Freddy is for real, and use Hypnocil and fraudulent institutionalization of witnesses to ensure that Freddy's potential victims remain Muggles. That way, the dream-stalking killer can't gain strength from their fear.]]
* The police psychiatrist in {{Terminator}} and the hospital administrator in {{Terminator}} 2 aren't for one moment going to take stories of time-traveling killer cyborgs seriously.

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* In {{Blade}} 3, ''{{Blade}} 3'', a famous psychologist goes on record on TV that Blade is crazy... only for it to be but it's revealed that he's a Familiar to the ruling vampires (basically their stooge).
* Played straight and subverted in ''ANightmareOnElmStreet 3'', in that one of the therapists trying to help the Freddy-plagued kids is actually willing to admit the possibility they [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and Nancy]] are faced with encounter a supernatural threat. The other, unfortunately, assumes they're delusional and has one of them sedated: the ''worst'' possible outcome of this trope, under the circumstances.
** Inverted in ''Freddy vs. Jason'': [[spoiler: the mental-hospital [[spoiler:The mental hospital staff in Springwood know damn well that Freddy is for real, and use Hypnocil and fraudulent institutionalization of witnesses to ensure that Freddy's potential victims remain Muggles. That way, the dream-stalking killer can't gain strength from their fear.]]
* The police psychiatrist in {{Terminator}} ''{{Terminator}}'' and the hospital administrator in {{Terminator}} 2 ''Terminator 2'' aren't for one moment going to take stories of time-traveling killer cyborgs seriously.



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* Subverted on an episode of OutOfThisWorld. Evie goes to therapy and brings her mom and dad, or at least, the glowing crystal that her alien dad communicates through. The therapist is very much a muggle but believes them and they appeal to doctor/patient confidentiality to keep their secret safe.
* [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy]] sees a counselor in season 2 who has no idea about vampires and the like, though he turns out to be a pretty good counselor anyway, and figures out what her problem essentially is minus the supernatural elements. [[spoiler: Then he gets killed by a Hulk expy.]]

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* Subverted on an episode of OutOfThisWorld. ''OutOfThisWorld''. Evie goes to therapy and brings her mom and dad, or at least, the glowing crystal that through which her alien dad communicates through.communicates. The therapist is very much a muggle but believes them and they appeal to doctor/patient confidentiality to keep their secret safe.
* [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy]] sees a counselor in season 2 who has no idea about vampires and the like, though he turns out to be a pretty good counselor anyway, and figures out what her problem essentially is minus the supernatural elements. [[spoiler: Then [[spoiler:Then he gets killed by a Hulk expy.]]



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* ''{{Persona}}'''s cast is a group of teens who frequently go into a twisted, bloody version of their school where they are in danger of being killed by ''their repressed feelings'' and fight monsters by shooting themselves in the head with guns that fire ''psychological trauma''. Ken is so bad he was going to commit suicide after getting his revenge against a certain individual. But since no therapist would believe them about the Dark Hour, they’re on their own.

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* ''{{Persona}}'''s The cast of ''{{Persona}}'' is a group of teens who frequently go into a twisted, bloody version of their school where they are in danger of being killed by ''their repressed feelings'' and fight monsters by shooting themselves in the head with guns that fire ''psychological trauma''. Ken is so bad he was going to commit suicide after getting his revenge against a certain individual. But since no therapist would believe them about the Dark Hour, they’re on their own.



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* Double-Subverted in {{Blade}} 3: a famous psychologist goes on record on TV that Blade is crazy... only for it to be revealed he's a Familiar to the ruling vampires (basically their stooge).

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* Double-Subverted in In {{Blade}} 3: 3, a famous psychologist goes on record on TV that Blade is crazy... only for it to be revealed he's a Familiar to the ruling vampires (basically their stooge).
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* Inverted in {{Blade}} 3: a famous psychologist goes on record on TV that Blade is crazy... only for it to be revealed he's a Familiar to the ruling vampires (basically their stooge).

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* Inverted Double-Subverted in {{Blade}} 3: a famous psychologist goes on record on TV that Blade is crazy... only for it to be revealed he's a Familiar to the ruling vampires (basically their stooge).
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* In MarvelComics there is ''one'' non-Muggle psychologist (Doc Samson) who apparently every super in the world goes to with their problems. Except not lately, because he has been evil and/or dead.

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* In MarvelComics there is ''one'' non-Muggle psychologist (Doc Samson) who apparently every super in the world goes to with their problems.problems[[note]](there are others in the know with such training, but [[MindRape their usual]] [[BrainwashedAndCrazy standards of treatment]] are worse than most conceivable psychological problems)[[/note]]. Except not lately, because he has been evil and/or dead.
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…(Doctor smiles weakly, then picks up his phone)."''\\
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…(Doctor smiles weakly, then picks up his phone)."''\\
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->''"Dr. Fuller: Why don’t you tell me how you’re feeling?\\
Sam: I'm fine. I mean, okay, a little depressed, I guess.\\
Dr. Fuller: Alright – any idea why?\\
Sam: Probably because I started the apocalypse.\\
…(Doctor smiles weakly, then picks up his phone)."''\\
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Sometimes, characters needs therapy to cope with what's happened to them, but the events they would need to talk about are part of some [[TheMasquerade Big Secret]] that would sound delusional to outsiders. Unfortunately, there are no therapists that ''aren't'' outsiders.

To make matters worse, the character can’t or won’t creatively edit their story. Maybe to add insult to injury, the author finishes an adventure by winding back time so only this character remembers what happened or has them followed by a shadowy government agency charged with enforcing TheMasquerade.

Not a single therapist in the world is "in the know".

You ''could'' try and get the help you need anyways but your {{Muggle}} therapist will probably get quite the wrong idea. Cue men in white coats wrestling you into a straight jacket.

You might even end up turning your therapist mad [[GoMadFromTheRevelation by revealing the secret]] or [[LaserGuidedAmnesia by covering it up again]] when you're done.

Options remaining: Go AxCrazy, [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil Join]] TheDarkSide, Die [[DrivenToSuicide at your own hand]] or [[SuicideMission another's]], [[LaserGuidedAmnesia Take]] [[RedPillBluePill the blue]] [[TheMatrix pill]], be KilledToUpholdTheMasquerade

Sister trope of ThereAreNoTherapists. Compare with CassandraTruth and YouHaveToBelieveMe. May be caused by TheMasquerade, TheWorldIsNotReady, or the WeirdnessCensor.

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[[folder:Anime and Manga]]
* Fakir and Rue from ''PrincessTutu'' could definitely use some therapy considering their [[ParentalAbandonment issues]], but they'd have to find a therapist who would be able to swallow the idea that part of their problems stem from being characters in a fairytale.
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[[folder: Fanworks]]
* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] regularly in the Harry Potter fandom to explain why the many characters with serious issues and traumatic backgrounds can’t get therapy.
** ''OhGodNotAgain'' mentions that Cho Chang only got better after years of therapy, and she needed to edit her story, because all therapists are Muggles.
* [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in the ''HarryPotter'' fanfic "[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4842696/1/Reparations Reparations]]", Draco Malfoy is a therapist in the drug rehab wing of St Mungo's and argues that wizards have to have their own rehab because if wizards only had muggle therapists and groups, they would have to edit magic out of their accounts and that would sabotage the process and doom the patient to failure.
* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the author's notes of [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4004316/10/Windows_of_the_Soul Windows of the Soul]], a MaiHime fanfic that deals with Shizuru's lingering guilt over her actions late in the series and the implications they have for her relationship with Natsuki.
-->"Sometimes I wonder whether it would be easier if I just had Shizuru see a psychologist. The problem being, how does she say "I have a huge guilt complex over killing scores of people with my summoned demon named after the legendary Kiyohime" without being put in an asylum? Perhaps the First District has specialised psychologists. Oh, wait. She blew them up. That's what she's guilty about."
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[[folder:Comics]]
* In MarvelComics there is ''one'' non-Muggle psychologist (Doc Samson) who apparently every super in the world goes to with their problems. Except not lately, because he has been evil and/or dead.
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[[folder: Film]]
* The psychiatrist consulted in TheMask doesn't believe that the mask could have any supernatural properties.
* In the FilmOfTheBook ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia: PrinceCaspian'', Peter and his siblings lived into adulthood in Narnia, a magical land inside a wardrobe, and now are stuck in a world that treats them as children so despite having problems like getting into fights and struggling to relate to other people, trying to explain those issues to a [[Muggle]] therapist would probably get them sectioned.
* Inverted in {{Blade}} 3: a famous psychologist goes on record on TV that Blade is crazy... only for it to be revealed he's a Familiar to the ruling vampires (basically their stooge).
* Played straight and subverted in ''ANightmareOnElmStreet 3'', in that one of the therapists trying to help the Freddy-plagued kids is actually willing to admit the possibility they [[spoiler: and Nancy]] are faced with a supernatural threat. The other, unfortunately, assumes they're delusional and has one of them sedated: the ''worst'' possible outcome of this trope, under the circumstances.
** Inverted in ''Freddy vs. Jason'': [[spoiler: the mental-hospital staff in Springwood know damn well that Freddy is for real, and use Hypnocil and fraudulent institutionalization of witnesses to ensure that Freddy's potential victims remain Muggles. That way, the dream-stalking killer can't gain strength from their fear.]]
* The police psychiatrist in {{Terminator}} and the hospital administrator in {{Terminator}} 2 aren't for one moment going to take stories of time-traveling killer cyborgs seriously.
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[[folder: Literature]]
* In ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'', when Bella's erratic behavior after Edward leaves her borders on [[UnfortunateImplications clinical depression]], Charlie ''tried'' to get Bella to see a therapist. She refused, claiming that she couldn't tell a therapist about how the Cullens were vampires and she’d decided that therapy wouldn't work if she wasn't 100% truthful.
* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'': The need for secrecy prevents any of the characters in this from seeking help, but the psychological ramifications of being in the sort of fight they're in are explored. The Animorphs have very interesting nightmares, and will do so for the rest of their lives. Cassie tries to act as a sort-of therapeutic substitute, but her success is limited.
** In one book, Marco [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] the impossibilities of telling a professional therapist about their problems: "Hello, Doctor Freud? My dad's thinking about remarrying. See, he thinks my mom is dead, but she's not. She's actually a slave to an alien race trying to take over the planet. And did I mention that I'm fighting this alien invasion myself? That I do it by turning into animals? Say what? [[GoAmongMadPeople What size straitjacket do I wear]]?"
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[[folder: Live Action TV]]
* In ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'', Suzie went to a support group to talk through her work-related issues but due to [[{{Masquerade}} the need for secrecy]], she had to drug her confidant [[LaserGuidedAmnesia to make him forget]] and [[spoiler:unfortunately, this turned him into an AxCrazy serial killer.]]
* In “Series/{{Doctor Who}}’’ Amy is twice sent to therapy when others find out what she’s experienced and can’t believe it’s real: in “The Eleventh Hour” because of her tales of The Raggedy Doctor, and in “The Big Bang” where all the stars have gone out and young Amy is the only person in the world who remembers them.
* In ''Series/BeingHuman'', Annie was [[spoiler:abused by her fiance, forced to watch him be romantic with his new girlfriend (who was also Annie's old friend), and then found out that he murdered her]]. Unfortunately, Annie is dead and thus would have a bit of trouble making an appointment.
* Pretty much all the hunters in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' have deep-seated psychological issues which go unaddressed apart from the occasional monster induced psychologically-convenient dreamscape. The reason they can't seek aid is nicely demonstrated by the episode "Sam, Interrupted" where they do go to a therapist and try to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3deHzi6y9Y explain their problems]]. Shortly after they start into ''why'' they have these issues they get committed. (Fortunately, it was all part of the plan.)
* Subverted on an episode of OutOfThisWorld. Evie goes to therapy and brings her mom and dad, or at least, the glowing crystal that her alien dad communicates through. The therapist is very much a muggle but believes them and they appeal to doctor/patient confidentiality to keep their secret safe.
* [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy]] sees a counselor in season 2 who has no idea about vampires and the like, though he turns out to be a pretty good counselor anyway, and figures out what her problem essentially is minus the supernatural elements. [[spoiler: Then he gets killed by a Hulk expy.]]
** Averted briefly, however, in season 7 when Buffy herself becomes a counselor.
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[[folder: Video Games]]
* ''{{Persona}}'''s cast is a group of teens who frequently go into a twisted, bloody version of their school where they are in danger of being killed by ''their repressed feelings'' and fight monsters by shooting themselves in the head with guns that fire ''psychological trauma''. Ken is so bad he was going to commit suicide after getting his revenge against a certain individual. But since no therapist would believe them about the Dark Hour, they’re on their own.
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