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28th Apr '17 5:10:20 PM SullenFrog
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* ''VisualNovel/{{Sunrider}}'': Several of Kryska’s battle quotes reference this trope, particularly the ones that play when she successfully hits an enemy unit.

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* ''VisualNovel/{{Sunrider}}'': Several ''VisualNovel/{{Sunrider}}'':
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of Kryska’s battle quotes reference this trope, particularly the ones that play when she successfully hits an enemy unit.




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** In ''Sunrider Liberation Day'', [[spoiler:the titular Liberation Day ceremony is meant to serve as a peace conference between the Solar Alliance and PACT following the defeat of PACT’s Prototype-led hardliner faction, but it quickly becomes a bloodbath when a third party [[DemonicPossession hijacks]] the hero of the hour and turns a bunch of machinegun-equipped {{Spider Tank}}s loose on the audience. Both sides—who didn’t trust each other to begin with—blame each other for the massacre, and the war escalates, just as the third party planned.]]
28th Apr '17 2:40:19 PM SullenFrog
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* ''VisualNovel/{{Sunrider}}'': Several of Kryska’s battle quotes reference this trope, particularly the ones that play when she successfully hits an enemy unit.
--> “Weaponized diplomacy was successful!”\\
“Surrender, or I will resume hostilities.”\\
“Do you ''still'' refuse to negotiate?”
25th Apr '17 9:32:32 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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-->'''Lister:''' Guess what? ''<pulls out lead pipe>'' [[GenreSavvy So did I.]]

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-->'''Lister:''' Guess what? ''<pulls out lead pipe>'' [[GenreSavvy So did I.]]
5th Apr '17 6:59:17 PM ArcaneAzmadi
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* In the ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode "Justice", the [[KillerRobot Simulant]] requests to negotiate with the Red Dwarf crew, and despite [[DirtyCoward Rimmer]] urging him to shoot it in the back while it's unaware, Lister instead agrees to at least meet and talk with it.
-->'''Lister:''' You wanna talk? Let's talk.
-->'''Simulant:''' You have no weapons?
-->'''Lister:''' No. You have no weapon?
-->'''Simulant:''' No. ''<the two approach each other>'' Guess what? ''<pulls out large knife>'' ILied.
-->'''Lister:''' Guess what? ''<pulls out lead pipe>'' [[GenreSavvy So did I.]]
-->'''Simulant:''' But I lied... ''<pulls out gun>'' ...twice.
-->'''Lister:''' [[OutGambitted ...didn't think of that.]]
20th Mar '17 12:45:58 AM JMQwilleran
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'': Rinoa states that as soon as the party's ready, she'll begin 'serious negotiations' with the Galbadian president, Vinzer Deling.
-->'''Squall''': (''[[{{Facepalm}} facepalming]]'') 'Serious negotiations'... Better make sure my GF's equipped...
29th Jan '17 5:52:43 AM GrammarNavi
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* ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClank'' weapons sometimes imply this trope as a pun -- notably, ''The Negotiator'' rocket launcher, and it's upgraded form, ''The Arbiter''. Said to quickly conclude legal disputes across the galaxy!

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* ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClank'' ''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'' weapons sometimes imply this trope as a pun -- notably, ''The Negotiator'' rocket launcher, and it's upgraded form, ''The Arbiter''. Said to quickly conclude legal disputes across the galaxy!
28th Dec '16 6:44:00 AM TheWanderer
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-->'''Obi-Wan:''' You were right about one thing, master: The negotiations were short.

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-->'''Obi-Wan:''' --->'''Obi-Wan:''' You were right about one thing, master: The negotiations were short.



* ''Film/{{Braveheart}}'': William Wallace kind of does this when he angers the English generals when they are parleying to start the first battle. [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Only fitting]], since the English had hanged William's father and some of his compatriots after pulling this stunt when William was a boy.

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* ''Film/{{Braveheart}}'': William Wallace kind of does this when he angers the English generals when they are parleying to start before the first battle. Battle of Stirling. He incites the English until they have no choice but to shut down the parley and begin battle, where Wallace has a secret plan to slaughter them. [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Only fitting]], since as a child Wallace had seen the gruesome aftermath of the English had hanged William's father and some of his compatriots after pulling using this stunt when William was a boy.tactic.



** Invoked but ultimately subverted by [[MagnificentBastard Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish]]. He meets with the Lords Declarant, lords of the Vale who want to remove him from his position of Lord Protector. He deliberately angers them until one of them draws a sword, which gives Littlefinger a good enough reason to send them away. Later on in the chapter, it's discovered that the guy was actually working for him all along and the whole thing was just an act in order to earn the trust of the other Lords.

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** Invoked but ultimately subverted by [[MagnificentBastard Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish]]. He meets with the Lords Declarant, lords of the Vale who want to remove him from his position of [[EvilChancellor Lord Protector. Protector]]. He deliberately angers them talks in circles during the parley until one of them gets frustrated, draws a sword, which gives and threatens violence. Littlefinger a good enough reason notes that he would now have every right to send toss all of them away. into a cell for this, and since they're in his castle with his guards around, none of them could stop him. Littlefinger instead gives them the ultimatum that instead of attempting to remove him immediately, they will give him a year to attempt to correct the mismanagement that has gone on in the Vale. With the threat of being tossed in a cell still hanging over their heads, they reluctantly agree. Later on in the chapter, it's discovered Littlefinger reveals to an accomplice that the guy who drew his sword [[TheMole was actually working for him all along along]] and the whole thing was just an act in order a ploy to earn buy himself time. During the trust course of the other Lords.year that the lords agreed to, he will befriend some of them and acquire the debts of others who are {{Impoverished Patrician}}s, that way in a year it will be impossible for them to remove him.
10th Nov '16 11:39:31 PM Morgenthaler
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In a series on the cynical end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, a character that does this is either being BadAss for silencing the enemy, or is just being really stupid. Seeing as pulling this trope tends to cause war to break out, there aren't many idealist series with this in them, but characters that do invoke this trope tend to be just incredibly stupid.

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In a series on the cynical end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, a character that does this is either being BadAss badass for silencing the enemy, or is just being really stupid. Seeing as pulling this trope tends to cause war to break out, there aren't many idealist series with this in them, but characters that do invoke this trope tend to be just incredibly stupid.
23rd Aug '16 3:19:47 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Literature/HaloContactHarvest'', a nervous Grunt attacks a marine during a diplomatic meeting and [[spoiler:starts the entire Human-Covenant war.]] The "negotiations" involved the Brutes demanding the humans hand over the planet with everything on it. There was no way this was going to end well.

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* In ''Literature/HaloContactHarvest'', a nervous Grunt attacks a marine human militiaman during a diplomatic meeting and [[spoiler:starts starts the entire Human-Covenant war.]] war. The "negotiations" involved the Brutes demanding the humans hand over the planet with everything on it. There was no way this was going to end well.
25th Jul '16 2:39:25 PM margdean56
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* The Mongols were renown in ancient times for their aversion of this trope; they believed very strongly in Diplomatic Immunity for both sides of the equation, and if they called you out to negotiate that was all they were going to do (for today). The Mongol Empire ended up destroying one of its neighboring civilizations utterly for mistreating a messenger.

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* The Mongols were renown renowned in ancient times for their aversion of this trope; they believed very strongly in Diplomatic Immunity for both sides of the equation, and if they called you out to negotiate that was all they were going to do (for today). The Mongol Empire ended up destroying one of its neighboring civilizations utterly for mistreating a messenger.
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