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28th Dec '16 6:44:00 AM TheWanderer
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-->'''Obi-Wan:''' You were right about one thing, master: The negotiations were short.

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-->'''Obi-Wan:''' --->'''Obi-Wan:''' You were right about one thing, master: The negotiations were short.



* ''Film/{{Braveheart}}'': William Wallace kind of does this when he angers the English generals when they are parleying to start the first battle. [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Only fitting]], since the English had hanged William's father and some of his compatriots after pulling this stunt when William was a boy.

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* ''Film/{{Braveheart}}'': William Wallace kind of does this when he angers the English generals when they are parleying to start before the first battle. Battle of Stirling. He incites the English until they have no choice but to shut down the parley and begin battle, where Wallace has a secret plan to slaughter them. [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Only fitting]], since as a child Wallace had seen the gruesome aftermath of the English had hanged William's father and some of his compatriots after pulling using this stunt when William was a boy.tactic.



** Invoked but ultimately subverted by [[MagnificentBastard Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish]]. He meets with the Lords Declarant, lords of the Vale who want to remove him from his position of Lord Protector. He deliberately angers them until one of them draws a sword, which gives Littlefinger a good enough reason to send them away. Later on in the chapter, it's discovered that the guy was actually working for him all along and the whole thing was just an act in order to earn the trust of the other Lords.

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** Invoked but ultimately subverted by [[MagnificentBastard Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish]]. He meets with the Lords Declarant, lords of the Vale who want to remove him from his position of [[EvilChancellor Lord Protector. Protector]]. He deliberately angers them talks in circles during the parley until one of them gets frustrated, draws a sword, which gives and threatens violence. Littlefinger a good enough reason notes that he would now have every right to send toss all of them away. into a cell for this, and since they're in his castle with his guards around, none of them could stop him. Littlefinger instead gives them the ultimatum that instead of attempting to remove him immediately, they will give him a year to attempt to correct the mismanagement that has gone on in the Vale. With the threat of being tossed in a cell still hanging over their heads, they reluctantly agree. Later on in the chapter, it's discovered Littlefinger reveals to an accomplice that the guy who drew his sword [[TheMole was actually working for him all along along]] and the whole thing was just an act in order a ploy to earn buy himself time. During the trust course of the other Lords.year that the lords agreed to, he will befriend some of them and acquire the debts of others who are {{Impoverished Patrician}}s, that way in a year it will be impossible for them to remove him.
10th Nov '16 11:39:31 PM Morgenthaler
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In a series on the cynical end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, a character that does this is either being BadAss for silencing the enemy, or is just being really stupid. Seeing as pulling this trope tends to cause war to break out, there aren't many idealist series with this in them, but characters that do invoke this trope tend to be just incredibly stupid.

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In a series on the cynical end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, a character that does this is either being BadAss badass for silencing the enemy, or is just being really stupid. Seeing as pulling this trope tends to cause war to break out, there aren't many idealist series with this in them, but characters that do invoke this trope tend to be just incredibly stupid.
23rd Aug '16 3:19:47 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Literature/HaloContactHarvest'', a nervous Grunt attacks a marine during a diplomatic meeting and [[spoiler:starts the entire Human-Covenant war.]] The "negotiations" involved the Brutes demanding the humans hand over the planet with everything on it. There was no way this was going to end well.

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* In ''Literature/HaloContactHarvest'', a nervous Grunt attacks a marine human militiaman during a diplomatic meeting and [[spoiler:starts starts the entire Human-Covenant war.]] war. The "negotiations" involved the Brutes demanding the humans hand over the planet with everything on it. There was no way this was going to end well.
25th Jul '16 2:39:25 PM margdean56
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* The Mongols were renown in ancient times for their aversion of this trope; they believed very strongly in Diplomatic Immunity for both sides of the equation, and if they called you out to negotiate that was all they were going to do (for today). The Mongol Empire ended up destroying one of its neighboring civilizations utterly for mistreating a messenger.

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* The Mongols were renown renowned in ancient times for their aversion of this trope; they believed very strongly in Diplomatic Immunity for both sides of the equation, and if they called you out to negotiate that was all they were going to do (for today). The Mongol Empire ended up destroying one of its neighboring civilizations utterly for mistreating a messenger.
28th Jun '16 1:22:44 PM Nyao
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See also: ISurrenderSuckers, GunboatDiplomacy, {{Ambadassador}}.

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See also: ISurrenderSuckers, GunboatDiplomacy, {{Ambadassador}}.
GunboatDiplomacy. The calling card of the {{Ambadassador}} when the peaceful solution fails.
17th Jun '16 3:23:47 AM Chabal2
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* ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII'': The second mission starts with Uther telling Arthas he sent two of his best knights to negotiate an orc tribe's surrender. Cue two horses returning, pointedly missing their riders.
16th Jun '16 9:41:46 AM Firebrand96
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->'''Anakin:''' When I got to them, we got into aggressive negotiations.\\

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->'''Anakin:''' When I got to them, we got into [[TropeNamer aggressive negotiations.negotiations]].\\
11th Jun '16 9:58:41 PM Doug86
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* In the KingArthur myth, his final battle with Mordred started this way. Neither side trusted the other, and brought plenty of heavily armed soldiers along to the negotiations. The fighting started when one soldier, bitten by an asp, drew his sword to kill it. Both sides had been warned to expect treachery, and responded immediately. Due to the confusion and disorganization, both sides were essentially wiped out.

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* In the KingArthur Myth/KingArthur myth, his final battle with Mordred started this way. Neither side trusted the other, and brought plenty of heavily armed soldiers along to the negotiations. The fighting started when one soldier, bitten by an asp, drew his sword to kill it. Both sides had been warned to expect treachery, and responded immediately. Due to the confusion and disorganization, both sides were essentially wiped out.
7th Jun '16 2:49:06 AM Morgenthaler
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* SunTzu recommends this as one of many stratagems in ''Literature/TheArtOfWar''.

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* SunTzu Sun Tzu recommends this as one of many stratagems in ''Literature/TheArtOfWar''.
18th Apr '16 11:28:27 PM konekootome
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* When prophet's ship arrives at the Legion base in ''[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/Legionnaire Legionnaire]]'', a bizarre combination of welcoming, questioning, and MexicanStandoff ensues.

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* When prophet's ship arrives at the Legion base in ''[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/Legionnaire Legionnaire]]'', ''Fanfic/{{Legionnaire}}'', a bizarre combination of welcoming, questioning, and MexicanStandoff ensues.ensues.
* The initially peaceful conference in ''FanFic/MyMirrorSwordAndShield'' for the opening of the SAZ with the JLF falls apart when [[CrazyJealousGuy Sir Raleigh]] orders the troops to attack behind Euphemia and Suzaku's backs, turning into a massacre. It ends in further tears when Euphemia calls Raleigh out on his actions and refuses to back down from her ideals.
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