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22nd Jul '16 11:00:04 PM nombretomado
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* In ''CompanyOfHeroes'', Tiger ace Hauptmann Josef Schultz is a clear expy of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wittmann Michael Wittman.]] In a later expansion, the player can take charge of Schultz's tank to do battle with the British 7th Armoured Division in the real-life [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Villers-Bocage Battle of Villiers Bocage.]]

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* In ''CompanyOfHeroes'', ''VideoGame/CompanyOfHeroes'', Tiger ace Hauptmann Josef Schultz is a clear expy of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wittmann Michael Wittman.]] In a later expansion, the player can take charge of Schultz's tank to do battle with the British 7th Armoured Division in the real-life [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Villers-Bocage Battle of Villiers Bocage.]]
13th Jul '16 10:41:29 AM Materioptikon
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* Captain [[ShoutOut Anzollo]] in ''WebComic/SecondEmpire''. His first CrowningMomentOfAwesome came when he successfully evacuated his Emperor and his troops from the heavily defended Skaro, and later on he became one of the titular Second Empire's best pilots, taking the fight to the massed forces over Ziragalen and blunting the offensive before it had a chance to start. Even knowing he was going to die, he used ExplosiveOverclocking on his own engines to successfully disable a couple of dozen pursuing ships.
12th Jul '16 2:05:17 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** Gamlin in ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}''. Basara is arguably an even better pilot, but he's an ActualPacifist.

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** Gamlin Kizaki in ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}''. Nekki Basara is arguably an even better pilot, but he's an ActualPacifist.



** Ozma Lee in ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' is SMS's best pilot (and possibly the best one in the entire ''Frontier'' fleet); even near the end of the show, he is still able to out-duel main hero Alto by a couple of points due to his [[OldSoldier much greater experience]] and Alto being quite conflicted at the time. Michel, meanwhile, was the company's ace ''sniper''. However, the show's best pilot is probably Brera Sterne, thanks in large part to him being a {{Cyborg}}.
** Messer Ihlefeld in ''Anime/MacrossDelta'' is Delta Squadron's ace, and easily shows the difference between honed skill and inexperienced raw talent whenever he effortlessly shows up Hayate's piloting. He frequently gets in duels with the Aerial Knights' own ace, Keith Windermere.

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** Ozma Lee in ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' is SMS's best pilot (and possibly the best one in the entire ''Frontier'' fleet); even near the end of the show, he is still able to out-duel main hero Alto Saotome by a couple of points due to his [[OldSoldier much greater experience]] and Alto being quite conflicted at the time. Michel, meanwhile, was the company's ace ''sniper''. However, the show's best pilot is probably Brera Sterne, thanks in large part to him being a {{Cyborg}}.
** Messer Ihlefeld in ''Anime/MacrossDelta'' is Delta Squadron's ace, and easily shows the difference between honed skill and inexperienced raw talent whenever he effortlessly shows up Hayate's protagonist Hayate Immelman's piloting. He frequently gets in duels with the Aerial Knights' own ace, Keith Windermere.
10th Jul '16 6:45:44 PM StarSword
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** There are plenty of other pilots, but those illustrate the styles best. Another EU book, ''Literature/DeathStar'', makes it clear that Darth Vader doesn't really fit any category, except perhaps the double-secret probationary [[ImprobablePilotingSkills Sniperollbushplugwhacker]]. He was able to make the ''second'' best Imperial pilot, pictured above, who is good enough to make a decent protagonist pilot feel like a child who can barely walk trying to keep up with a champion distance runner, look like a clueless farmboy. Casually. Without using a targeting computer, which, the protagonist believes, is outright ''impossible''. The Force--and to be completely accurate, thirty-plus years of experience and ageless cybernetic components--helps pilots, clearly. Another thing to take into account is just how much of Vader's body is cybernetic. Think about how a pilot experiences extreme movement of blood from the extremities to the brain during strenuous maneuvers. Now think about a pilot without extremities, whose body doesn't have the same necessities as a typical human. And give him the power of the force.

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** There are plenty of other pilots, but those illustrate the styles best. Another EU book, ''Literature/DeathStar'', makes it clear that Darth Vader doesn't really fit any category, except perhaps the double-secret probationary [[ImprobablePilotingSkills Sniperollbushplugwhacker]]. He was able to make the ''second'' best Imperial pilot, pictured above, who is good enough to make a decent protagonist pilot feel like a child who can barely walk trying to keep up with a champion distance runner, look like a clueless farmboy. Casually. Without using a targeting computer, which, the protagonist believes, is outright ''impossible''. The Force--and to be completely accurate, thirty-plus years of experience and ageless cybernetic components--helps pilots, clearly. Another thing to take into account is just how much of Vader's body is cybernetic. Think about how a pilot experiences extreme movement of blood from the extremities to the brain during strenuous maneuvers. Now think about a pilot without extremities, whose body doesn't have the same necessities as a typical human. And give him the power of the force. In ''Death Star'', after flying against Vader in practice the top TIE pilot on the station narrates that, if he ever ends up on the wrong end of Vader's guns for real, he'll just self-destruct his ship and save him the time.


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* ''Series/SpaceAboveAndBeyond'': The series revolves around USMC {{Do Anything Soldier}}s whose ostensible specialty is as fighter pilots, but the 58th Squadron's commanding officer Colonel T.C. [=McQueen=], the SoleSurvivor of the previous top squadron in the Corps, stands head and shoulders above them despite a CareerEndingInjury to his inner ear. After an enemy ace nicknamed Chiggy von Richthofen after the historical Red Baron kills several squadrons' worth of pilots including a 58 RedShirt, [=McQueen=] has the surgical implant keeping his inner ear working removed and personally goes out to blow Chiggy von Richthofen out of space.
10th Jul '16 6:30:17 PM StarSword
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* ''Series/MadamSecretary'': We only know Henry [=McCord's=] flying record via {{exposition}} to his son for a school project because he's retired by the time of the series. In an unusual variant, rather than being a Navy or Air Force air-to-air ace, he flew F-16s on ground attack missions for the Marine Corps in [[UsefulNotes/PersianGulfWar Operation Desert Storm]] and, in his own words, "I ''always'' hit my target."
9th Jul '16 11:07:52 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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*** While not the absolute best, the hero, Hikaru Ichijo, was an extremely skilled pilot as well.
*** As was Hikaru Ichijyo's sempai, Roy Focker. Roy was the best pilot in ''Anime/MacrossZero'', though, the protagonist being his other student, Shin Kudo.
** Sylvie Gina and Nexx Gilbert in ''Anime/MacrossII''. (The main character, Hibiki Kanzaki, is an [[IntrepidReporter Ace Reporter]] flying unarmed civilian craft instead.)

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*** While not the absolute best, the hero, protagonist Hikaru Ichijo, Ichijo was an extremely skilled pilot as well.
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well, as was Hikaru Ichijyo's sempai, his squad leader, Roy Focker. Roy was the best pilot in ''Anime/MacrossZero'', though, the protagonist being his other student, Shin Kudo.
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** Sylvie Gina and Nexx Gilbert in ''Anime/MacrossII''. ''Anime/MacrossII'' (The main character, Hibiki Kanzaki, is an [[IntrepidReporter Ace Reporter]] flying unarmed civilian craft instead.)instead).


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** In prequel ''Anime/MacrossZero'', the aforementioned Roy Focker ''is'' the best pilot. His protege Shin Kudo is an excellent pilot as well, being able to even initially hold his own against a [[TransformingMecha Variable Fighter]]... while piloting a regular F-14. Their main rivals DD Ivanov and Nora Polyansky are no slouches either.
6th Jul '16 9:05:24 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* The ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' franchise has a bunch, and an interesting tradition of the best pilot in the show ''not'' being the main character:

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* The ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' franchise has a bunch, and an interesting tradition of the best pilot in the each show ''not'' being the main character:
6th Jul '16 10:08:19 AM genolution
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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Knispel Kurt Knispel]], another German, holds the UsefulNotes/WorldWarII record, with 168 confirmed tank kills.

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* [[http://en.**It's important to note that German aces, especially Wittmann, had hilariously overinflated kill counts, as the Germans marked joint kills as full kills for all involved, marked probable kills as full kills, had a much lower barrier to recognize a kill (resulting in many German aces scoring more kills than there existed in the area according to Allied documents), and were typically assigned the kills for their entire unit in action.
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wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Knispel Kurt Knispel]], another German, holds the UsefulNotes/WorldWarII record, with 168 confirmed tank kills.



*LaFayette Poole, an American tanker serving in France, accounted for over a thousand Germans KIA and a further 250 POW, and 258 German AFV kills, 12 of them being tanks. Al this took place in a time period of ''81 days in 3 different tanks'' during 1944. And these aren't just kills claimed. These are the kills confirmed by German operational archives.



* Hans-Joachim "Jochen" Marseille aka the "Star of Africa", while not exactly the most famous German ace of World War II, was exactly what you'd expect an ace pilot to be - a total womanizer and party guy with not much respect for authority. He was transfered to the North African theater in order to get him away from French women. While in the Battle of Britain he had not been notably successful, in North Africa he became virtually unstoppable. He would charge his plane straight into large British formations, then use high deflection shots to shoot the cockpit of his foes (at such an angle, you can't even see the plane your shooting at due to the engine). He racked up 158 confirmed kills, which all were against Western Allies, all but seven in North Africa. On 1 September 1942 he shot down '''17 enemy fighters''' - of which 10 can be verified on RAF records. Erich Hartmann said that he thought Marseille was the best shot of any fighter pilot. He was killed when he tried to bail out of his Bf 109G after the engine failed and he hit the vertical stabilizer.

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* Hans-Joachim "Jochen" Marseille aka the "Star of Africa", while not exactly the most famous German ace of World War II, was exactly what you'd expect an ace pilot to be - a total womanizer and party guy with not much respect for authority. He was transfered to the North African theater in order to get him away from French women. While in the Battle of Britain he had not been notably successful, in North Africa he became virtually unstoppable. He would charge his plane straight into large British formations, then use high deflection shots to shoot the cockpit of his foes (at such an angle, you can't even see the plane your shooting at due to the engine). He racked up 158 confirmed kills, which all were against Western Allies, all but seven in North Africa. On 1 September 1942 he shot down '''17 enemy fighters''' - of which 10 fighters that can be verified on RAF records. Erich Hartmann said that he thought Marseille was the best shot of any fighter pilot. He was killed when he tried to bail out of his Bf 109G after the engine failed and he hit the vertical stabilizer.
3rd Jul '16 12:42:19 PM Morgenthaler
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One explanation of this comes from a flaw in the Japanese training system: they used TheSpartanWay to produce a small supply of excellent pilots while the Americans used BiggerIsBetter to produce ten times as many ''good' pilots. The Americans also rotated their experienced pilots home to act as [[TheObiWan Obi-Wans]] to new pilots to give them the benefit of their experience while the Japanese pilots remained in combat to be killed off or become {{shell shocked veteran}}s. Thus when the second crop of Japanese pilots came out after Midway they were almost untrained compared to their American adversaries, and there were very few skilled veterans still alive to mentor them.

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One explanation of this comes from a flaw in the Japanese training system: they used TheSpartanWay to produce a small supply of excellent pilots while the Americans used BiggerIsBetter to produce ten times as many ''good' pilots. The Americans also rotated their experienced pilots home to act as [[TheObiWan Obi-Wans]] mentors to new pilots to give them the benefit of their experience while the Japanese pilots remained in combat to be killed off or become {{shell shocked veteran}}s. Thus when the second crop of Japanese pilots came out after Midway they were almost untrained compared to their American adversaries, and there were very few skilled veterans still alive to mentor them.
30th Jun '16 12:23:32 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** Messer Ihlefeld in ''Anime/MacrossDelta'' is Delta Squadron's ace, and easily shows the difference between skill and talent whenever he effortlessly shows up Hayate's piloting. He frequently gets in duels with the Aerial Knights' own ace, Keith Windermere.

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** Messer Ihlefeld in ''Anime/MacrossDelta'' is Delta Squadron's ace, and easily shows the difference between honed skill and inexperienced raw talent whenever he effortlessly shows up Hayate's piloting. He frequently gets in duels with the Aerial Knights' own ace, Keith Windermere.
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