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10th May '16 8:50:02 AM Jhonny
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* Political scandals often work this way: Some document or thing is questioned: If the person does not address its contents speculation runs rampant because after all, if it were innocuous the easiest thing would be to release it to the press and get it over with. May lead to an underwhelmed reaction when the real thing finally gets out and does not live up to the speculation.
6th May '16 6:05:51 PM MsChibi
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Compare INeverSaidItWasPoison, where someone incriminates themselves by mentioning details which were withheld from the public, and ItsQuietTooQuiet for the audio-exclusive version of this.

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Compare INeverSaidItWasPoison, where someone incriminates themselves by mentioning details which were withheld from the public, and ItsQuietTooQuiet for the audio-exclusive version of this. See also NotProven.
27th Mar '16 1:55:07 PM maxwellsilver
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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_Conspiracy Bielefeld Conspiracy]] [[MemeticMutation meme]] parodies [[UsefulNotes/ConspiracyTheories conspiracy theories]] which run on this. Basically, it posits three questions to the person: Do they know anyone from Bielefeld, have they ever been to Bielefeld, and do they know anyone who has been to Bielefeld. Since most people are expected to answer no[[note]]Bielefeld is a mid-size town in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany, with no particular thing to attract attention to it and no particular dialect that's really distinguishable from Standard German[[/note]] [[AppealToIgnorance it is concluded that Bielefeld doesn't exist]]. People who answer "Yes" to the questions [[WithUsOrAgainstUs are said to be working for the conspiracy]], or to have been deceived by it.

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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_Conspiracy Bielefeld Conspiracy]] [[MemeticMutation meme]] {{meme}} parodies [[UsefulNotes/ConspiracyTheories conspiracy theories]] UsefulNotes/ConspiracyTheories which run on this. Basically, it posits three questions to the person: Do they know anyone from Bielefeld, have they ever been to Bielefeld, and do they know anyone who has been to Bielefeld. Since most people are expected to answer no[[note]]Bielefeld is a mid-size town in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany, with no particular thing to attract attention to it and no particular dialect that's really distinguishable from Standard German[[/note]] [[AppealToIgnorance it is concluded that Bielefeld doesn't exist]]. People who answer "Yes" to the questions [[WithUsOrAgainstUs are said to be working for the conspiracy]], or to have been deceived by it.
18th Mar '16 1:31:50 PM ObsidianFire
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* In ''Film/TheBourneUltimatum'' when the CIA is looking for whoever leaked Blackbriar to the media, their initial response is to check for whoever's cell phone was in the same location as the meeting place. Pamela Landy [[GenreSavvy notes]] that what they should be doing is checking who has their cell phones turned off, as no employee of the CIA would be stupid enough to meet a journalist with their phone on but that it would be odd for a ranking officer to be out of contact for that long.

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* In ''Film/TheBourneUltimatum'' when the CIA is looking for whoever leaked Blackbriar to the media, their initial response is to check for whoever's cell phone was in the same location as the meeting place. Pamela Landy [[GenreSavvy notes]] notes that what they should be doing is checking who has their cell phones turned off, as no employee of the CIA would be stupid enough to meet a journalist with their phone on but that it would be odd for a ranking officer to be out of contact for that long.
13th Feb '16 2:20:47 PM eroock
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-->--''[[Literature/SherlockHolmes The Adventure of Silver Blaze]]''

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-->--''[[Literature/SherlockHolmes -->-- ''[[Literature/SherlockHolmes The Adventure of Silver Blaze]]''
14th Jan '16 1:11:56 PM ironballs16
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Compare INeverSaidItWasPoison, where someone incriminates themselves by mentioning details which were withheld from the public.

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Compare INeverSaidItWasPoison, where someone incriminates themselves by mentioning details which were withheld from the public.public, and ItsQuietTooQuiet for the audio-exclusive version of this.
22nd Nov '15 7:40:44 AM NNinja
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* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', [[spoiler: the Ninth Man's missing bracelet.]]

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* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', [[spoiler: the Ninth Man's missing bracelet. It leads Junpei to believe that it was used in Snake's murder, and that killer [[LoopholeAbuse could open the door with Snake alone, as the bracelet would replace the third person]].]]
14th Nov '15 3:23:56 PM Sharlee
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* The redaction of confidential words and phrases from documents can potentially backfire, if the non-obscured context of the redaction makes it clear what ''sort'' of information it must contain. It may even foster speculation that's more damning than whatever the actual redacted statement might have been.
24th Sep '15 11:54:39 PM KeithM
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* A standard intelligence technique when contacting an agent suspected to be compromised is making an innocuous statement or question and expecting a specific response, also innocuous. If the agent is under duress or has been replaced, the absence of the right response is an indication something may be wrong.
24th Sep '15 11:01:26 PM Getheren
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This is, in fact, one of the harder aspects of real police investigations. The lack of something is easy to miss. However you have to be careful. The lack of gunshot residue on a person's clothes for example '''does not''' mean that there was not a gun fired, it means that there is no gunpowder residue to find ("The absence of evidence is evidence of absence, not '''proof''' of absence"). Lack of such residue on the glove that an eyewitness saw the shooter use and then dump that is immediately picked up by the police might show that the event was staged, however (as the gloves would have residue and there is no way it might have been removed).

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This is, in fact, one of the harder aspects of real police investigations. The lack of something is easy to miss. However you have to be careful. The lack of gunshot residue on a person's clothes for example '''does not''' mean that there was not a gun fired, it means that there is no gunpowder residue to find ("The absence of evidence is evidence of absence, not '''proof''' of absence"). Lack of such residue on the glove that an eyewitness saw the shooter use and then dump that is immediately picked up by the police might show that the event was staged, however (as the gloves would have residue and there is no way it might have been removed).
removed). Also, in RealLife, people firing a modern semiautomatic pistol often ''don't'' acquire any gunpowder residue on their hands; so while the ''presence'' of gunpowder residue may be evidence of guilt (weak in itself the residue could as easily have been picked up at a shooting range), its ''absence'' does not exclude a suspect.
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