History MagnificentBastard / VideoGames

8th Nov '16 4:24:27 PM Motherdragon64
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** Less conventionally but no less awesomely, Morinth. She's a ChaoticEvil and [[AxCrazy quite insane]] serial killer [[spoiler:who [[DeathBySex kills her victims through sexual intercourse]] (other methods are implied, but that appears to be her favorite)]], but seeing her in-game, it's quite easy to see how she charms her victims with or without biotics, making her one of the most frightening characters in the trilogy (and that's counting the Reapers). [[spoiler:If she joins your crew, she not only pretends to be her mother in full view of the crew, but even has the quads to proposition Shepard for sex, even though both of them know how that'll turn out.]] The sad part is you can agree to it. [[TooDumbToLive Guess what happens?]]

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** Less conventionally but no less awesomely, Morinth. She's a ChaoticEvil and [[AxCrazy quite insane]] serial killer [[spoiler:who [[DeathBySex kills her victims through sexual intercourse]] (other methods are implied, but that appears to be her favorite)]], but seeing her in-game, it's quite easy to see how she charms her victims with or without biotics, making her one of the most frightening characters in the trilogy (and that's counting the Reapers). [[spoiler:If she joins your crew, she not only pretends to be her mother in full view of the crew, but even has the quads to proposition Shepard for sex, even though both of them know how that'll turn out.]] The sad part is you can agree to it. [[TooDumbToLive Guess what Guess]] [[NonStandardGameOver what]] [[ShmuckBait happens?]]
1st Nov '16 9:30:56 PM HighCrate
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** What makes these two a particularly special case is that [[spoiler: they manipulated everyone including ''[[PlayingThePlayer the player]]'' into helping them carry out their plans, by [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy actively using and subverting gaming conventions]] (such as OneHundredPercentCompletion)- they played on ''your'' expectations and tricked ''you'' into giving them ultimate power, and can actually ''[[TheBadGuyWins succeed]]'' [[TheBadGuyWins in destroying humans and monsters alike.]]]] That's right, [[spoiler:''they screwed with the FourthWall and managed to make the player an UnwittingPawn,'' when most villains [[ThisIsReality aren't even aware of their fictionality.]]]] Impressive is putting it ''mildly.''

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** What makes these two a particularly special case is that [[spoiler: they manipulated everyone including ''[[PlayingThePlayer the player]]'' into helping them carry out their plans, by [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy actively using and subverting gaming conventions]] conventions (such as OneHundredPercentCompletion)- they played on ''your'' expectations and tricked ''you'' into giving them ultimate power, and can actually ''[[TheBadGuyWins succeed]]'' [[TheBadGuyWins in destroying humans and monsters alike.]]]] That's right, [[spoiler:''they screwed with the FourthWall and managed to make the player an UnwittingPawn,'' when most villains [[ThisIsReality aren't even aware of their fictionality.]]]] Impressive is putting it ''mildly.''
27th Oct '16 5:35:37 AM salvadorfranz
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* Chancellor Giliath Osborne in ''VideoGame/KisekiSeries'', but most importantly, ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsOfColdSteel II'' is this. In the last few minutes of Act III, he makes sure that the Noble Alliance's power is deterred, gets his revolution to invade Crossbell, uses Class VII, his rival's pet project, to his advantage, and ''outwit [[AncientConspiracy Ouroboros]]''. Pretty impressive for a guy who doesn't appear for most of the game.
17th Oct '16 6:06:25 PM nombretomado
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* Franchise/''{{Lunar}}'' series:

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* Franchise/''{{Lunar}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Lunar}}'' series:
16th Oct '16 11:22:01 AM nombretomado
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* ''FinalFantasyTactics'':

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* ''FinalFantasyTactics'':''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'':



** In ''FinalFantasyTacticsA2'', there's Duke Snakeheart, a somewhat loony Nu Mou Arcanist in Duelhorn that does not care if innocent people get hurt during Duelhorn's attacks as long as the job gets done, wants to do things his way, and even hires your clan at one point to protect him from punishment from his clan members, to which he says "...Heh, that went well." after he does avoid it. If that wasn't enough, [[spoiler:he reveals himself to be the traitor of Duelhorn, admitting to leaking their plans and turning the girl that Maquis saved into a zombie just for kicks]].

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** In ''FinalFantasyTacticsA2'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2'', there's Duke Snakeheart, a somewhat loony Nu Mou Arcanist in Duelhorn that does not care if innocent people get hurt during Duelhorn's attacks as long as the job gets done, wants to do things his way, and even hires your clan at one point to protect him from punishment from his clan members, to which he says "...Heh, that went well." after he does avoid it. If that wasn't enough, [[spoiler:he reveals himself to be the traitor of Duelhorn, admitting to leaking their plans and turning the girl that Maquis saved into a zombie just for kicks]].
15th Oct '16 11:07:00 PM MasterN
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* ''Videogame/{{Undertale}}'' contains perhaps the two greatest examples in gaming, or at least very unique ones:

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* ''Videogame/{{Undertale}}'' contains perhaps the two greatest examples in gaming, or at least two very unique ones:
15th Oct '16 11:06:02 PM MasterN
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*''Videogame/{{Undertale}}'' contains perhaps the two greatest examples in gaming, or at least very unique ones:
**First, there's [[spoiler: [[KillerRabbit Flowey The Flower.]] He is the first NPC encountered in the game, so he pretends to be the cute, friendly tutorial character. He tells you to catch his [[ShmuckBait ''friendliness pellets'']], which are actually bullets. Whether or not you do, he then tries to steal your soul before Toriel, the actual tutorial character, saves you. He returns at the end of the ruins to taunt you about the decisions you made, and can reveal his RippleEffectProofMemory. He stalks you until you beat [[DiscOneFinalBoss Asgore]], then steals the human souls he was keeping, ''[[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou hijacks the game]]'' and [[OneWingedAngel transforms into]] the [[NightmareFuel horrifying]] [[EldritchAbomination Omega/Photoshop/God Flowey]] and can use ''[[SaveScumming savestates]]'' in his battle. The human souls give you the power to fight back, and Flowey [[VillainousBreakdown breaks down...]] before ''[[HopeSpot loading a savestate to restore his health]]'' [[EvilGloating and gloating as you find yourself helpless,]] until the souls revolt anyway. If you kill Flowey, he gloats because he [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim roped you into becoming a murderer like him.]] If you [[SaveTheVillain spare Flowey,]] he [[HeelFaceMole pretends to have reformed]] and sends you on a PacifistRun... so he can gather the monsters in one place and steal ''their'' souls as well, allowing him to turn into a super-powered version of his past incarnation, Asriel Dreemurr. The only reason he loses is because [[HoistByHisOwnPetard doing so allowed]] [[HelplessGoodSide Asriel]] to gradually take over.]]
**The other one is [[spoiler: [[EnfanteTerrible Chara Dreemurr, the Fallen Child.]] After emotionally abusing Asriel to gain control over them, they concocted a plan to [[MisanthropeSupreme kill humanity]] by [[ThanatosGambit committing suicide via buttercups,]] so Asriel could [[OurSoulsAreDifferent absorb their soul]] and use it to cross the barrier. [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Asriel thought they were simply gathering the souls needed to break the barrier,]] but Chara knew the humans of her village would assume [[DarkIsNotEvil Asriel]] [[MistakenForMurderer killed the child,]] and would attack in response. The intention was to goad Asriel into attacking the humans in self-defense, [[TurnTheOtherCheek but he held back,]] getting them both killed. [[TimeSkip Fast forward]] to the actual game, and Chara's essence remains within [[PlayerCharacter Frisk.]] It is implied that they [[NarratorAllAlong are the one who narrates your journey, in an attempt to gain your trust.]] Should the player [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential go for a]] [[KillEmAll Genocide Route,]] they [[DemonicPossession take over Frisk's body]] and [[VillainProtagonist you play as them instead.]] At the end of the route, they reveal that [[YouBastard YOU, THE PLAYER]] were the one who helped them gain power. They destroy the game world and [[DealWithTheDevil force you to give up your soul in order to restore it,]] so even if you complete a [[GoldenEnding True Pacifist Route,]] [[HappyEndingOverride they take back Frisk's body at the end,]] and it's implied they proceed to [[DownerEnding kill all your friends and complete their plans to]] [[ApocalypseHow destroy humanity and the world.]]]]
** What makes these two a particularly special case is that [[spoiler: they manipulated everyone including ''[[PlayingThePlayer the player]]'' into helping them carry out their plans, by [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy actively using and subverting gaming conventions]] (such as OneHundredPercentCompletion)- they played on ''your'' expectations and tricked ''you'' into giving them ultimate power, and can actually ''[[TheBadGuyWins succeed]]'' [[TheBadGuyWins in destroying humans and monsters alike.]]]] That's right, [[spoiler:''they screwed with the FourthWall and managed to make the player an UnwittingPawn,'' when most villains [[ThisIsReality aren't even aware of their fictionality.]]]] Impressive is putting it ''mildly.''
15th Oct '16 10:39:40 AM ShivaIndis
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* Franchise/''Lunar'' series:

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* Franchise/''Lunar'' Franchise/''{{Lunar}}'' series:
15th Oct '16 10:38:36 AM ShivaIndis
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* ''VideoGame/LunarTheSilverStar'':
** Ghaleon is a VillainWithGoodPublicity whose ObviouslyEvil traits are initially trumped by his sterling reputation as a veteran hero. The main characters help him out several times before he reveals his FaceHeelTurn...and his inner CardCarryingVillain. His GenreSavvy humor, his [[ManipulativeBastard sheer skill]] at [[BatmanGambit using the party's altruism for his own purposes]], and his [[LargeHam sheer joy]] in playing out the villain part for the protagonists definitely qualify him for this trope.
** Ghaleon's magnificent bastardry is even better in the sequel. He gets ressurrected to serve as TheDragon to Zophar, the game's BigBad, and frequently appears in front of heroes, mocking/threatening them while always leaving a small chance for them to escape. It is only after the main characters defeat Ghaleon that [[TheHero Hiro]] realizes Ghaleon has been helping them all along. In the second playthrough, it becomes clear just how savvy Ghaleon is and how he follows the mistakes illustrated in EvilOverlordList ''on purpose'' to help Hiro's party and not blow his cover. It still was not nice (hence the bastard part), but magnificent? Oh yeah.

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* ''VideoGame/LunarTheSilverStar'':
Franchise/''Lunar'' series:
** In ''VideoGame/LunarTheSilverStar'' (and remakes) Ghaleon is a VillainWithGoodPublicity whose ObviouslyEvil traits are initially trumped by his sterling reputation as a veteran hero. The main characters help him out several times before he reveals his FaceHeelTurn...and his inner CardCarryingVillain. His GenreSavvy humor, his [[ManipulativeBastard sheer skill]] at [[BatmanGambit using the party's altruism for his own purposes]], and his [[LargeHam sheer joy]] in playing out the villain part for the protagonists definitely qualify him for this trope.
** Ghaleon's magnificent bastardry is even better in the sequel.sequel, ''VideoGame/LunarEternalBlue''. He gets ressurrected to serve as TheDragon to Zophar, the game's BigBad, and frequently appears in front of heroes, mocking/threatening them while always leaving a small chance for them to escape. It is only after the main characters defeat Ghaleon that [[TheHero Hiro]] realizes Ghaleon has been helping them all along. In the second playthrough, it becomes clear just how savvy that Ghaleon is and how he follows the mistakes illustrated in EvilOverlordList making {{Evil Overlord List}}-type errors ''on purpose'' to help Hiro's party and not blow his cover. It still was not nice (hence the bastard part), but magnificent? Oh yeah.
9th Oct '16 6:42:23 PM MyFinalEdits
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* Ghaleon from ''VideoGame/LunarTheSilverStar'' is a VillainWithGoodPublicity whose ObviouslyEvil traits are initially trumped by his sterling reputation as a veteran hero. The main characters help him out several times before he reveals his FaceHeelTurn...and his inner CardCarryingVillain. His GenreSavvy humor, his [[ManipulativeBastard sheer skill]] at [[BatmanGambit using the party's altruism for his own purposes]], and his [[LargeHam sheer joy]] in playing out the villain part for the protagonists definitely qualify him for this trope.

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* ''VideoGame/LunarTheSilverStar'':
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Ghaleon from ''VideoGame/LunarTheSilverStar'' is a VillainWithGoodPublicity whose ObviouslyEvil traits are initially trumped by his sterling reputation as a veteran hero. The main characters help him out several times before he reveals his FaceHeelTurn...and his inner CardCarryingVillain. His GenreSavvy humor, his [[ManipulativeBastard sheer skill]] at [[BatmanGambit using the party's altruism for his own purposes]], and his [[LargeHam sheer joy]] in playing out the villain part for the protagonists definitely qualify him for this trope.
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