History MagnificentBastard / VideoGames

23rd Aug '16 5:36:21 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Literature/TheForerunnerSaga expands on this; it's implied that [[spoiler:the Gravemind is actually a multi-million-year old Precursor, or at least one's personality and memories, who was part of or planned a massive-scale BatmanGambit: Seeding "Flood-dust" around the galaxy in capsules inside ancient warships, knowing that when humans found them millions of years later, they'd test it out on something organic, which would eventually cause humans to become infected; then, they allowed humans to "beat" the Flood, hiding their real goal: gathering enough forces to eventually assault the Forerunners. All of this so they could test the Forerunners' worth to hold the "Mantle", a position to guide the other races of the galaxy. And it's not even over yet; knowing that Forerunners would fail, they arranged for another species to be tested: humans, scheduled for 100,000 years after the Flood war, in the 26th century.]] It also gives a possible reason as to how the Gravemind can manipulate and predict so much: [[spoiler:its kind ''made'' humans, Forerunners, the species of the Covenant, and virtually every sentient species in the Milky Way. It'd know everything about us.]]

to:

** Literature/TheForerunnerSaga ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' expands on this; it's implied that [[spoiler:the Gravemind is actually a multi-million-year old Precursor, or at least one's personality and memories, who was part of or planned a massive-scale BatmanGambit: Seeding "Flood-dust" around the galaxy in capsules inside ancient warships, knowing that when humans found them millions of years later, they'd test it out on something organic, which would eventually cause humans to become infected; then, they allowed humans to "beat" the Flood, hiding their real goal: gathering enough forces to eventually assault the Forerunners. All of this so they could test the Forerunners' worth to hold the "Mantle", a position to guide the other races of the galaxy. And it's not even over yet; knowing that Forerunners would fail, they arranged for another species to be tested: humans, scheduled for 100,000 years after the Flood war, in the 26th century.]] It also gives a possible reason as to how the Gravemind can manipulate and predict so much: [[spoiler:its kind ''made'' humans, Forerunners, the species of the Covenant, and virtually every sentient species in the Milky Way. It'd know everything about us.]]
11th Aug '16 6:26:47 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Literature/TheForerunnerSaga expands on this; it's implied that [[spoiler:the Gravemind is actually a multi-million-year old Precursor, or at least one's personality and memories, who was part of or planned a massive-scale BatmanGambit: seeding "Flood-dust" around the galaxy in capsules inside ancient warships, knowing, when humans found them millions of years later, they'd test it out on something organic, which would eventually cause humans to become infected; then, allowing humans to "beat" the Flood, hiding its real goal: gather enough forces to eventually assault Forerunners. All of this so they could test Forerunners' worth to hold the "Mantle", a position to guide the other races of the galaxy. And it's not even over yet; knowing that Forerunners would fail, they arranged for another species to be tested: humans, scheduled for 100,000 years after the Flood war, in the 26th century.]] It also gives a possible reason as to how he can manipulate and predict so much: [[spoiler:his kind ''made'' humans, Forerunners, and the species of the Covenant. He'd know everything about us.]]

to:

** Literature/TheForerunnerSaga expands on this; it's implied that [[spoiler:the Gravemind is actually a multi-million-year old Precursor, or at least one's personality and memories, who was part of or planned a massive-scale BatmanGambit: seeding Seeding "Flood-dust" around the galaxy in capsules inside ancient warships, knowing, knowing that when humans found them millions of years later, they'd test it out on something organic, which would eventually cause humans to become infected; then, allowing they allowed humans to "beat" the Flood, hiding its their real goal: gather gathering enough forces to eventually assault the Forerunners. All of this so they could test the Forerunners' worth to hold the "Mantle", a position to guide the other races of the galaxy. And it's not even over yet; knowing that Forerunners would fail, they arranged for another species to be tested: humans, scheduled for 100,000 years after the Flood war, in the 26th century.]] It also gives a possible reason as to how he the Gravemind can manipulate and predict so much: [[spoiler:his [[spoiler:its kind ''made'' humans, Forerunners, and the species of the Covenant. He'd Covenant, and virtually every sentient species in the Milky Way. It'd know everything about us.]]
7th Aug '16 9:48:54 AM thatmadork
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''VideoGame/MedievalIITotalWar'': '''You'''. Yes, you. We know the Pope is annoying, but staying in is good graces by avoiding wars with other Christian nations can work very well for you. Get a full-stack army and wait for someone to get excommunicated, then immediately request a crusade against this faction. Watch as this faction gets caught completely off-guard as six others declare war on them, throwing their campaigns into disarray and shaking up the web of alliances throughout Europe. When the dust settles, you'll have impressive territorial gains, coffers bulging from papal favours and decreased upkeep from crusading armies, and you've made a friend out of the current Pope. This can lead to more cardinals for your faction, which means more Pope hopefuls of your faction, and ''more'' crusades against the Pope's (and by extension, ''your'') enemies. Congratulations, you have just ''roped the Catholic Church into bankrolling your expansionist agendas''.
16th Jul '16 7:18:37 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[spoiler: Miraculously, Raiden had regained some of his sanity and used his Elder God amulet to send a message to his past self from the first MK tournament before suffering the final blow at Kahn's hand, essentially pressing said button on the entire series and foiling Shinnok's plan. Except, in a move that ups the gambit level from Batman to Xanatos, ''[[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Shinnok somehow counted on this to happen and would capitalize on this by sending his disciple Quan Chi in to position himself into Shao Kahn's inner circle over the course of the first three tournaments in order to work his necromancy on fallen kombatants with impunity]]''.]]\\

to:

[[spoiler: Miraculously, Raiden had regained some of his sanity and used his Elder God amulet to send a message to his past self from the first MK tournament before suffering the final blow at Kahn's hand, essentially pressing said button on the entire series and foiling Shinnok's plan. Except, in a move that ups the gambit level from Batman to Xanatos, ''[[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Shinnok ''Shinnok somehow counted on this to happen and would capitalize on this by sending his disciple Quan Chi in to position himself into Shao Kahn's inner circle over the course of the first three tournaments in order to work his necromancy on fallen kombatants with impunity]]''.impunity''.]]\\



* Ghaleon from ''[[{{Lunar}} Lunar: The Silver Star Story]]'' is a WellIntentionedExtremist and an AntiVillain. But his GenreSavvy humor, his [[ManipulativeBastard sheer skill]] at [[BatmanGambit using the party's altruism for his own purposes]], and his [[LargeHam sheer joy]] in playing out the villain part for the protagonists definitely qualify him for this trope. Ghaleon's magnificent bastardry is even better in the sequel. Having had a change of heart during his death, when Zophar resurrects him to serve as TheDragon, Ghaleon secretly starts working on the plan to destroy Zophar. To this end, Ghaleon frequently appears in front of Hiro's party, mocking/threatening them while always leaving a small chance for them to escape. It is only after Ghaleon fights Hiro's party on purpose as the final test and gets defeated that [[TheHero Hiro]] realizes Ghaleon has been helping them all along. In the second playthrough, it becomes increasingly obvious just how DangerouslyGenreSavvy Ghaleon is and how he follows the mistakes illustrated in EvilOverlordList ''on purpose'' to help Hiro's party and not blow his cover. It still was not nice (hence the bastard part), but magnificent? Oh yeah.

to:

* Ghaleon from ''[[{{Lunar}} Lunar: The Silver Star Story]]'' is a WellIntentionedExtremist and an AntiVillain. But his GenreSavvy humor, his [[ManipulativeBastard sheer skill]] at [[BatmanGambit using the party's altruism for his own purposes]], and his [[LargeHam sheer joy]] in playing out the villain part for the protagonists definitely qualify him for this trope. Ghaleon's magnificent bastardry is even better in the sequel. Having had a change of heart during his death, when Zophar resurrects him to serve as TheDragon, Ghaleon secretly starts working on the plan to destroy Zophar. To this end, Ghaleon frequently appears in front of Hiro's party, mocking/threatening them while always leaving a small chance for them to escape. It is only after Ghaleon fights Hiro's party on purpose as the final test and gets defeated that [[TheHero Hiro]] realizes Ghaleon has been helping them all along. In the second playthrough, it becomes increasingly obvious just how DangerouslyGenreSavvy savvy Ghaleon is and how he follows the mistakes illustrated in EvilOverlordList ''on purpose'' to help Hiro's party and not blow his cover. It still was not nice (hence the bastard part), but magnificent? Oh yeah.



* Doviculus from ''VideoGame/BrutalLegend''. DangerouslyGenreSavvy (e.g. he utterly averts a [[spoiler:WhyDontYaJustShootHim?]]), dishes out scathing insults like spare change, and... well, he's disturbingly [[StupidSexyFlanders sexy]] to boot. And he's voiced by Creator/TimCurry.

to:

* Doviculus from ''VideoGame/BrutalLegend''. DangerouslyGenreSavvy Savvy (e.g. he utterly averts a [[spoiler:WhyDontYaJustShootHim?]]), dishes out scathing insults like spare change, and... well, he's disturbingly [[StupidSexyFlanders sexy]] to boot. And he's voiced by Creator/TimCurry.



** The Reapers are an entire species of [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bastards]]. Everything they do reeks of DangerouslyGenreSavvy, all their plans put in place with a devious and sinister BatmanGambit, masters of XanatosSpeedChess, and both directly and indirectly manipulate everything from behind the scenes. [[spoiler:You practically HAVE to be this to successfully commit systematic genocide against all advanced organic life every 50,000 years for AT LEAST the past billion years.]]

to:

** The Reapers are an entire species of [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bastards]]. Everything they do reeks of DangerouslyGenreSavvy, all Bastards. All their plans put in place with a devious and sinister BatmanGambit, masters of XanatosSpeedChess, and both directly and indirectly manipulate everything from behind the scenes. [[spoiler:You practically HAVE to be this to successfully commit systematic genocide against all advanced organic life every 50,000 years for AT LEAST the past billion years.]]



** [[VideoGame/CallOfDutyModernWarfare Vladimir Makarov]]. Prior to his debut, an attempt to capture him had already failed horribly. He is the world's most wanted terrorist, being the man behind several terrorist attacks against the West and constantly staying one step ahead. He makes his debut by conspiring with another MagnificentBastard [[GeneralRipper General Shepherd]] to orchestrate a FalseFlagOperation that would eventually lead to a [[WorldWarIII Third World War]], not long after which he [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder betrayed him]] to the good guys. Throughout the course of the war, he keeps launching terrorist attacks across Europe to put the Western countries at a disadvantage, comes close to gaining access to Russia's nuclear arsenal and even [[spoiler: kills Soap]] when he [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy anticipated an assassination attempt on him]]. All while still remaining ahead of his enemies over the course of two games. Sorry Shepherd, but Makarov is the true MagnificentBastard of the Modern Warfare series.

to:

** [[VideoGame/CallOfDutyModernWarfare Vladimir Makarov]]. Prior to his debut, an attempt to capture him had already failed horribly. He is the world's most wanted terrorist, being the man behind several terrorist attacks against the West and constantly staying one step ahead. He makes his debut by conspiring with another MagnificentBastard [[GeneralRipper General Shepherd]] to orchestrate a FalseFlagOperation that would eventually lead to a [[WorldWarIII Third World War]], not long after which he [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder betrayed him]] to the good guys. Throughout the course of the war, he keeps launching terrorist attacks across Europe to put the Western countries at a disadvantage, comes close to gaining access to Russia's nuclear arsenal and even [[spoiler: kills Soap]] when he [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy anticipated an assassination attempt on him]].him. All while still remaining ahead of his enemies over the course of two games. Sorry Shepherd, but Makarov is the true MagnificentBastard of the Modern Warfare series.
26th Jun '16 11:05:18 AM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Though she may not have managed to impress fans sufficiently, [[BigBad Amelissan]] from ''BaldursGate II: Throne of Bhaal'' would qualify based on her actions. She had almost everyone convinced that she was a kind of activist dedicated to helping the weaker of the mortal children of Bhaal, the dead god of murder, while she was secretly herding them all in one place to be killed. She had the most powerful five convinced they could become demigods by destroying their lesser siblings in order to resurrect Bhaal, while her intention was to destroy them as well. And she had the dead god himself convinced she was going to resurrect him from the essences of his children, when she intended to use the power to [[AGodAmI become a god herself]]. When she encountered the PlayerCharacter, she had them kill all the other powerful Bhaalspawn while making sure they stil couldn't save the weaker ones in the city where she had led them. The reason why she's not really hailed as a Magnificent Bastard may be that she wasn't very convincing to the player from the start... and that she was a bit of a psycho when she showed her true colours.

to:

* Though she may not have managed to impress fans sufficiently, [[BigBad Amelissan]] from ''BaldursGate II: Throne of Bhaal'' ''VideoGame/BaldursGateIIThroneOfBhaal'' would qualify based on her actions. She had almost everyone convinced that she was a kind of activist dedicated to helping the weaker of the mortal children of Bhaal, the dead god of murder, while she was secretly herding them all in one place to be killed. She had the most powerful five convinced they could become demigods by destroying their lesser siblings in order to resurrect Bhaal, while her intention was to destroy them as well. And she had the dead god himself convinced she was going to resurrect him from the essences of his children, when she intended to use the power to [[AGodAmI become a god herself]]. When she encountered the PlayerCharacter, she had them kill all the other powerful Bhaalspawn while making sure they stil couldn't save the weaker ones in the city where she had led them. The reason why she's not really hailed as a Magnificent Bastard may be that she wasn't very convincing to the player from the start... and that she was a bit of a psycho when she showed her true colours.
23rd Jun '16 7:48:44 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Doviculus from ''BrutalLegend''. DangerouslyGenreSavvy (e.g. he utterly averts a [[spoiler:WhyDontYaJustShootHim?]]), dishes out scathing insults like spare change, and... well, he's disturbingly [[StupidSexyFlanders sexy]] to boot. And he's voiced by TimCurry.

to:

* Doviculus from ''BrutalLegend''.''VideoGame/BrutalLegend''. DangerouslyGenreSavvy (e.g. he utterly averts a [[spoiler:WhyDontYaJustShootHim?]]), dishes out scathing insults like spare change, and... well, he's disturbingly [[StupidSexyFlanders sexy]] to boot. And he's voiced by TimCurry.Creator/TimCurry.
8th Jun '16 4:10:36 PM Zennistrad
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** [[spoiler:Alex]] manages to manipulate 4 different groups of characters throughout the games, all to achieve a power higher than [[spoiler:Alchemy. It doesn't quite work out, but there was a big enough cliffhanger at the end of the second one to imply it could've.]] [[VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn 30 years on, he's moved on to manipulating entire ''nations''.]]

to:

** [[spoiler:Alex]] manages to manipulate 4 different groups of characters throughout the games, all to achieve a power higher than [[spoiler:Alchemy. It doesn't quite work out, but there was a big enough cliffhanger at the end of the second one to imply it could've.]] [[VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn 30 years on, he's moved on to manipulating entire ''nations''.]]entire]] ''[[VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn nations.]]''
24th Apr '16 3:47:56 PM Grobi
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Franchise/StarWars: KnightsOfTheOldRepublic II'':

to:

* ''Franchise/StarWars: KnightsOfTheOldRepublic II'':VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'':
23rd Mar '16 1:32:16 AM kirara19
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Maximilian of ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles''. That he's [[HeyItsThatVoice voiced by]] and has a similar [[FreudianExcuse back story]] to [[Anime/CodeGeass Lelouch Lamperouge]] are small indications of this fact before he even shows it.

to:

* Maximilian Prince Maximillian of ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles''. That he's [[HeyItsThatVoice [[ActorAllusion voiced by]] Creator/JunFukuyama and has a similar [[FreudianExcuse back story]] to [[Anime/CodeGeass Lelouch Lamperouge]] are small indications of this fact before he even shows it.
10th Feb '16 4:58:42 PM MyFinalEdits
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The [[VideoGame/{{MOTHER}} MOTHER series]] gives us Porky Minch. While he started out simply as Ness' annoying next door neighbor, once he became influenced by [[Main/EldritchAbomination Giygas]], he becomes a lot more threatening. He's always one step ahead of Ness and crew, and even after they beat Giygas, Porky is able to time travel to get away, believed to be gone forever.
** Or so we thought, but he's back in full force in [[VideoGame/MOTHER3 Mother 3]]. He managed to take over the Nowhere Islands in merely three years, and has complete control over most of the citizens. And everything Lucas and company do throughout the story all turns out to be part of his game. Using a mysterious Masked Man, [[spoiler:who turns out to be Lucas's missing twin brother, Claus]], he attempts to awaken the Dark Dragon in order to use it to shape the world however he sees fit. However, since the Masked Man has no heart, nothing can be passed on to the dragon, which could cause it to destroy indiscriminately. On the other hand, if Lucas passed his heart onto the dragon, the world could end up to be a peaceful future for all. But even then, he's prepared for this to happen as well, because he can't die, which means no matter what happens to him, he'll be around forever, perfectly alive. Even his [[Main/FateWorseThanDeath fate worse than death]] at the end seems to satisfy him. No matter what happens, Porky wins.

to:

* The [[VideoGame/{{MOTHER}} MOTHER series]] gives us has Porky Minch. While he started out simply as Ness' annoying next door neighbor, once he became influenced by [[Main/EldritchAbomination Giygas]], he becomes a lot more threatening. He's always one step ahead of Ness and crew, and even after they beat Giygas, Porky is able to time travel to get away, believed to be gone forever.
** Or so we thought, but he's back in full force
forever. He returns in [[VideoGame/MOTHER3 Mother 3]]. He 3]], where he managed to take over the Nowhere Islands in merely three years, and has complete control over most of the citizens. And everything Lucas and company do throughout the story all turns out to be part of his game. Using a mysterious Masked Man, [[spoiler:who turns out to be Lucas's missing twin brother, Claus]], he attempts to awaken the Dark Dragon in order to use it to shape the world however he sees fit. However, since the Masked Man has no heart, nothing can be passed on to the dragon, which could cause it to destroy indiscriminately. On the other hand, if Lucas passed his heart onto the dragon, the world could end up to be a peaceful future for all. But even then, he's prepared for this to happen as well, because he can't die, which means no matter what happens to him, he'll be around forever, perfectly alive. Even his [[Main/FateWorseThanDeath fate worse than death]] at the end seems to satisfy him. No matter what happens, Porky wins.
This list shows the last 10 events of 500. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=MagnificentBastard.VideoGames