History Literature / VALIS

10th Nov '15 6:02:34 PM nombretomado
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Thus, the book begins. Throughout, Horselover Fat is confronted by the Soviet Union, Satan (in the form of [[RichardNixon Ferris F Fremont]]), Jesus, alien space lasers, and his own possible madness.
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Thus, the book begins. Throughout, Horselover Fat is confronted by the Soviet Union, Satan (in the form of [[RichardNixon [[UsefulNotes/RichardNixon Ferris F Fremont]]), Jesus, alien space lasers, and his own possible madness.
8th Jun '15 3:42:04 PM Llygodenfawr
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Sherri, not Sherrie
* TakingYouWithMe: This is a strange variation on this trope, but Sherrie enacts a psychological version of this as she spirals towards her death, pulling everyone who knows her with her (particularly Fat--[[UnreliableNarrator according to]] [[PointOfView him, anyway]]).
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* TakingYouWithMe: This is a strange variation on this trope, but Sherrie Sherri enacts a psychological version of this as she spirals towards her death, pulling everyone who knows her with her (particularly Fat--[[UnreliableNarrator according to]] [[PointOfView him, anyway]]).
8th Jun '15 3:41:10 PM Llygodenfawr
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*** [[spoiler: Debatable. The novel is written in the 3rd person, where both Fat and Philip are treated as separate entities, however the novel is ''written by'' Horselover Fat[[note]]See Chapter 1[[/note]]. Hence Philip's consciousness is tied into the persona of Fat, he adopts the personality in an attempt to diverge and distance himself from the identity of Philip. This is the only way he can cope with the weight of existence within reality - the Black Iron Prison. That's why when Sophia finally is introduced, he sees a solution and his cognitive processes coalesce back into the central identity of Philip, but when she dies, he reverts. If Fat was a hallucination there would be no point-of-view to work from and he would act as an external intrusion, but instead the point of view is introspective where ''Philip'' is extruded from the central subjective view of reality. Schizophrenic yes, but you can't really argue for him being ''not'' dissociative when the entire point of Fat's existence is as a refuge so Philip can dissociate himself from reality. It doesn't need to manifest as classical disocciative identity disorder with a psychotic fugue or black-outs - you could easily stamp him with the label "atypical" and the DSM-IV wouldn't argue with you.]][[note]]Fat debates this himself at the end of chapter 7, for anyone who's interested.[[/note]] However, considering the amount of YMMV, MindScrew and [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory symbolic interpretations]] ([[ParanoiaFuel paranoia to follow]]), there are undoubtedly other ways to view this scenario.
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*** [[spoiler: Debatable. The novel is written in the 3rd person, where both Fat and Philip are treated as separate entities, however the novel is ''written by'' Horselover Fat[[note]]See Chapter 1[[/note]]. Hence Philip's consciousness is tied into the persona of Fat, he adopts the personality in an attempt to diverge and distance himself from the identity of Philip. This is the only way he can cope with the weight of existence within reality - the Black Iron Prison. That's why when Sophia finally is introduced, he sees a solution and his cognitive processes coalesce back into the central identity of Philip, but when she dies, he reverts. If Fat was a hallucination there would be no point-of-view to work from and he would act as an external intrusion, but instead the point of view is introspective where ''Philip'' is extruded from the central subjective view of reality. Schizophrenic yes, but you can't really argue for him being ''not'' dissociative when the entire point of Fat's existence is as a refuge so Philip can dissociate himself from reality. It doesn't need to manifest as classical disocciative identity disorder with a psychotic fugue or black-outs - you could easily stamp him with the label "atypical" and the DSM-IV wouldn't argue with you.]][[note]]Fat debates this himself at the end of chapter 7, for anyone who's interested.[[/note]] However, considering the amount of YMMV, MindScrew and [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory symbolic interpretations]] ([[ParanoiaFuel paranoia to follow]]), there are undoubtedly other ways to view this scenario. scenario. *NumberOfTheBeast: Ferris F. Fremont's initials are FFF, and F is the sixth letter of the alphabet.
29th Apr '15 7:18:18 AM Black_Diesel
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8th Jan '15 10:55:36 AM nombretomado
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* AsHimself: RobertAntonWilson, who was a friend of Dick's at the time it was written.
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* AsHimself: RobertAntonWilson, Creator/RobertAntonWilson, who was a friend of Dick's at the time it was written.
1st Oct '14 11:43:49 PM 102372
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1st Oct '14 11:43:38 PM 102372
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Creator/PhilipKDick's second to last completed novel, ''VALIS'', is about his own experiences with ''something'' in 1974. Drugs? Schizophrenia? Alien intervention? And what does the name Horselover Fat mean? [[MindScrew It's difficult to say]], but it's certainly some kind of novel.
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Creator/PhilipKDick's second to last second-to-last completed novel, ''VALIS'', ''VALIS'' is about his own experiences with ''something'' in 1974. Drugs? Schizophrenia? Alien intervention? And what does the name Horselover Fat mean? [[MindScrew It's difficult to say]], but it's certainly some kind of novel.
19th Apr '14 10:55:30 PM WarriorsGate
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* ShownTheirWork: PKD did just as much mad research as there is in the novel.
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* ShownTheirWork: PKD did just as much mad research as there is in the novel.novel, and more. After the events of 1974, he started keeping journals of his research into mysticism and philosophy, which laid the groundwork for this novel. They totaled '''''8,000 pages''''' by the time of his death. A handful of them were later published as ''The Exegesis of Philip K Dick''.
18th Sep '13 12:50:01 AM DocLoki
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* AsHimself: RobertAntonWilson, who was a friend of Dick's at the time it was written.
6th Aug '13 4:16:26 AM Korodzik
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*** [[spoiler: Debatable. The novel is written in the 3rd person, where both Fat and Philip are treated as separate entities, however the novel is ''written by'' Horselover Fat[[hottip:*:See Chapter 1]]. Hence Philip's consciousness is tied into the persona of Fat, he adopts the personality in an attempt to diverge and distance himself from the identity of Philip. This is the only way he can cope with the weight of existence within reality - the Black Iron Prison. That's why when Sophia finally is introduced, he sees a solution and his cognitive processes coalesce back into the central identity of Philip, but when she dies, he reverts. If Fat was a hallucination there would be no point-of-view to work from and he would act as an external intrusion, but instead the point of view is introspective where ''Philip'' is extruded from the central subjective view of reality. Schizophrenic yes, but you can't really argue for him being ''not'' dissociative when the entire point of Fat's existence is as a refuge so Philip can dissociate himself from reality. It doesn't need to manifest as classical disocciative identity disorder with a psychotic fugue or black-outs - you could easily stamp him with the label "atypical" and the DSM-IV wouldn't argue with you.]][[hottip:*:Fat debates this himself at the end of chapter 7, for anyone who's interested.]] However, considering the amount of YMMV, MindScrew and [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory symbolic interpretations]] ([[ParanoiaFuel paranoia to follow]]), there are undoubtedly other ways to view this scenario.
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*** [[spoiler: Debatable. The novel is written in the 3rd person, where both Fat and Philip are treated as separate entities, however the novel is ''written by'' Horselover Fat[[hottip:*:See Fat[[note]]See Chapter 1]].1[[/note]]. Hence Philip's consciousness is tied into the persona of Fat, he adopts the personality in an attempt to diverge and distance himself from the identity of Philip. This is the only way he can cope with the weight of existence within reality - the Black Iron Prison. That's why when Sophia finally is introduced, he sees a solution and his cognitive processes coalesce back into the central identity of Philip, but when she dies, he reverts. If Fat was a hallucination there would be no point-of-view to work from and he would act as an external intrusion, but instead the point of view is introspective where ''Philip'' is extruded from the central subjective view of reality. Schizophrenic yes, but you can't really argue for him being ''not'' dissociative when the entire point of Fat's existence is as a refuge so Philip can dissociate himself from reality. It doesn't need to manifest as classical disocciative identity disorder with a psychotic fugue or black-outs - you could easily stamp him with the label "atypical" and the DSM-IV wouldn't argue with you.]][[hottip:*:Fat ]][[note]]Fat debates this himself at the end of chapter 7, for anyone who's interested.]] [[/note]] However, considering the amount of YMMV, MindScrew and [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory symbolic interpretations]] ([[ParanoiaFuel paranoia to follow]]), there are undoubtedly other ways to view this scenario.
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