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17th Aug '16 1:25:41 PM LordYAM
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* GeneralFailure: Desdel Stareye doesn't know a thing about how to fight a war yet thinks he should be in charge by virtue of being a nobleman. This is even more jarring since there ''are'' noblemen who know how to fight, like Lord Ravencrest, who, unfortunately, ends up [[spoiler:being killed by one of Azshara's assassins]]. His "brilliant" plan involves marching straight into enemy lines, which results in many casualties when the demons spring their (fairly obvious) trap. The only consolation is that Stareye himself dies as a result, leaving the much more competent Jarod Shadowsong (a commoner) in charge. Additionally, his FantasticRacism results in him putting the Tauren, Furbolg, and Earthen (proto-Dwarves) forces in the support role, when they're much more useful on the front lines.

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* GeneralFailure: Desdel Stareye doesn't know a thing about how to fight a war yet thinks he should be in charge by virtue of being a nobleman. This is even more jarring since there ''are'' noblemen who know how to fight, like Lord Ravencrest, who, unfortunately, ends up [[spoiler:being killed by one of Azshara's assassins]]. His "brilliant" plan involves marching straight into enemy lines, which results in many casualties when the demons spring their (fairly obvious) trap. The only consolation is that Stareye himself dies as a result, leaving the much more competent Jarod Shadowsong (a commoner) in charge. Additionally, his FantasticRacism results in him putting the Tauren, Furbolg, and Earthen (proto-Dwarves) forces in the support role, when they're much more useful on the front lines. Heck the only reason he let them in is because Rhonin threatened to quit, which would have prompted Brox and others to leave which would have decimated the low morale.


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* NobleBigot: Kurtalos Ravencrest is somewhat xenophobic (he reluctantly accepts Brox Krasus and Rhonin, and even then because they had proven themselves) but he does genuinely care about his people and is a competent general (though Desdel is just a bigot.)
8th Jul '16 4:00:27 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheMentor: Krasus toward Malfurion. Rhonin tried it on Illidan, but failed. He tries to curb Illidan's brutal methods. Illidan takes Rhonin's interest in him [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint as a another sign]] that Illidan is someone of great importance. He was right... [[RightForTheWrongReasons to an extent.]]



* TheObiWan: Krasus toward Malfurion. Rhonin tried it on Illidan, but failed. He tries to curb Illidan's brutal methods. Illidan takes Rhonin's interest in him [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint as a another sign]] that Illidan is someone of great importance. He was right... [[RightForTheWrongReasons to an extent.]]
25th Apr '16 7:27:09 PM Discar
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* AnAxeToGrind: Broxigar's weapon of choice.
** After he loses his personal battle axe, Cenarius makes one for him from ''wood'', albeit enchanted wood that makes it stronger and sharper than any metal. After [[spoiler:Brox's HeroicSacrifice]], Krasus manages to recover the axe and gives it to [[spoiler:Thrall for safekeeping]].
*** How strong and sharp is this axe? Well, it manages to wound [[spoiler:[[TheDevil Sargeras]] himself]].
* ArtifactOfDoom: The Dragon/Demon Soul.

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* AnAxeToGrind: Broxigar's weapon of choice.
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choice. After he loses his personal battle axe, Cenarius makes one for him from ''wood'', albeit enchanted wood that makes it stronger and sharper than any metal. After [[spoiler:Brox's HeroicSacrifice]], Krasus manages to recover the axe and gives it to [[spoiler:Thrall for safekeeping]].
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safekeeping]]. How strong and sharp is this axe? Well, it manages to wound [[spoiler:[[TheDevil [[spoiler:[[SatanicArchetype Sargeras]] himself]].
* %%* ArtifactOfDoom: The Dragon/Demon Soul.



* DeadlyDecadentCourt: The Highborn seem to be almost uniformly evil and willing to kill over the slightest changes in status.
** Although to be fair about 1/3 do realize that Azshara has lost it, and [[spoiler:some of them even stay behind to give the others time to get away.]]
* DeathSeeker: Brox. He got better, though.
* TheDevil: Sargeras.

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* DeadlyDecadentCourt: The Highborn seem to be almost uniformly evil and willing to kill over the slightest changes in status.
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status. Although to be fair about 1/3 do realize that Azshara has lost it, and [[spoiler:some of them even stay behind to give the others time to get away.]]
* %%* DeathSeeker: Brox. He got better, though.
* TheDevil: Sargeras.
though.



* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu: [[spoiler: Brox]] actually manages to [[spoiler: wound Sargeras by driving his ax into the Titan's foot]]. To put this in context, Sargeras is TheDevil of Azeroth. Of course, even with the help of [[spoiler:a magical ax given to him by a demigod]] he only manages to give him a small scratch, but that's very impressive nonetheless.
** It's actually the only thing that manages to [[spoiler:hold off Sargeras long enough for the portal to close]]. Not because it hurts him in any serious way, but because of sheer surprise that it happened.

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* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu: DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu:
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[[spoiler: Brox]] actually manages to [[spoiler: wound Sargeras by driving his ax into the Titan's foot]]. To put this in context, Sargeras is TheDevil of Azeroth. Of course, even with the help of [[spoiler:a magical ax given to him by a demigod]] he only manages to give him a small scratch, but that's very impressive nonetheless.
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nonetheless. It's actually the only thing that manages to [[spoiler:hold off Sargeras long enough for the portal to close]]. Not because it hurts him in any serious way, but because of sheer surprise that it happened.



* EvenTheGirlsWantHer: Vashj ''and'' Tyrande experience this when they meet Azshara.
** In fact, demons want her too.
*** Let me state this in clear detail. Demons in Warcraft are beings who cannot think of anything but pure, unfiltered hatred for all living things. ''They fall in love with her''. That she thought she could woo even Sargeras is less a display of egotism and arguably more of a sultry self confidence.
*** To be fair, in one scene with Illidan it's heavily implied that she's enhancing her natural appeal with magic, but so subtly that nobody actually notices. Illidan himself is somewhat victim to it, even when he notices and despite his own skill in magic.

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* EvenTheGirlsWantHer: EvenTheGirlsWantHer:
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Vashj ''and'' Tyrande experience this when they meet Azshara.
** In fact, demons want her too.
*** Let me state this in clear detail.
too. Demons in Warcraft are beings who cannot think of anything but pure, unfiltered hatred for all living things. ''They fall in love with her''. That she thought she could woo even Sargeras is less a display of egotism and arguably more of a sultry self confidence.
*** To be fair, in ** In one scene with Illidan it's heavily implied that she's enhancing her natural appeal with magic, but so subtly that nobody actually notices. Illidan himself is somewhat victim to it, even when he notices and despite his own skill in magic.



** Also, in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', you can find [[spoiler:Varo'then's ghost. Apparently, his punishment for betraying Kalimdor was literally to [[WalkingTheEarth roam the earth]] forever after his death. When you find him in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', it's been more than 10,000 years since the War of the Ancients!]]

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** Also, in In ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', you can find [[spoiler:Varo'then's ghost. Apparently, his punishment for betraying Kalimdor was literally to [[WalkingTheEarth roam the earth]] forever after his death. When you find him in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', it's been more than 10,000 years since the War of the Ancients!]]



* GambitRoulette: ThePlan of [[spoiler: the Old Gods for their come back.]] One could think its this trope because [[spoiler:they need Illidan to be driven by Xavius to go with the Legion, where he could think of using the Dragon Soul to open a portal, then succeed finding where it is hidden and stealing it from Deathwing before the good guys.]] However, as they are apparently able to [[spoiler:modify history and influence events and peoples]], it is entirely plausible.

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* GambitRoulette: GambitRoulette:
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ThePlan of [[spoiler: the Old Gods for their come back.comeback.]] One could think its this trope because [[spoiler:they need Illidan to be driven by Xavius to go with the Legion, where he could think of using the Dragon Soul to open a portal, then succeed finding where it is hidden and stealing it from Deathwing before the good guys.]] However, as they are apparently able to [[spoiler:modify history and influence events and peoples]], it is entirely plausible.



*** It's even simpler than that. According to Krasus, significantly altering the Azeroth timeline would "rip Time apart," which would unmake the Old Gods' prison. They chose to change the outcome of the War of the Ancients to accomplish this, but it didn't necessarily have to happen in that super-specific way. They just wanted either the demons or Neltharion to come out on top instead of the mortals.

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*** ** It's even simpler than that. According to Krasus, significantly altering the Azeroth timeline would "rip Time apart," which would unmake the Old Gods' prison. They chose to change the outcome of the War of the Ancients to accomplish this, but it didn't necessarily have to happen in that super-specific way. They just wanted either the demons or Neltharion to come out on top instead of the mortals.



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Brox]], and [[spoiler:Malorne]].
* HopeSpot: For the night elf army, [[spoiler:Neltharion/Deathwing annihilating the demon army with his weapon. Cool, we're saved! Wait, what's [[TheStarscream he]] doing?]]

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* %%* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Brox]], and [[spoiler:Malorne]].
* HopeSpot: HopeSpot:
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For the night elf army, [[spoiler:Neltharion/Deathwing annihilating the demon army with his weapon. Cool, we're saved! Wait, what's [[TheStarscream he]] doing?]]



* InformedAttribute: Azshara is supposedly very powerful, with Mannoroth stating that she is only behind Sargeras, Archimonde, and possibly Kil'jaeden in terms of power for the Legion's forces. We never really see her use this power though, save for her apparently being a BarrierWarrior who could hold Mannoroth off rather easily.

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* InformedAttribute: InformedAttribute:
**
Azshara is supposedly very powerful, with Mannoroth stating that she is only behind Sargeras, Archimonde, and possibly Kil'jaeden in terms of power for the Legion's forces. We never really see her use this power though, save for her apparently being a BarrierWarrior who could hold Mannoroth off rather easily.



--> Brox: ''Farewell, wizard! It is my honor to have fought beside you and the rest!''

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--> Brox: ''Farewell, -->'''Brox:''' Farewell, wizard! It is my honor to have fought beside you and the rest!''rest!



* OneHundredPercentAdorationRating: Everyone loves Queen Azshara, despite the fact she's totally bat**** insane.

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* OneHundredPercentAdorationRating: Everyone loves Queen Azshara, despite the fact she's totally bat**** batshit insane.



* PortalCut: Sargeras is halfway through the Well of Eternity's portal when it's forcefully closed, causing him to "cease to be" (although his spirit has shown up later in ''[[Literature/WarcraftTheLastGuardian' The Last Guardian]]'', albeit only a [[FightingAShadow part of him]]).



* ThePunishment: [[spoiler:Done to Illidan in the end]].

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* PhysicalGod: Sargeras, Lord of the Burning Legion. Krasus bluntly tells everyone that if every single demon of the Burning Legion comes through the portal, they have a tiny chance of winning. But if every single demon is defeated and Sargeras still comes through, then they '''lose'''. Period.
* PortalCut: Sargeras is halfway through the Well of Eternity's portal when it's forcefully closed, causing him to "cease to be" (although his spirit has shown up later in ''[[Literature/WarcraftTheLastGuardian The Last Guardian]]'', albeit only a [[FightingAShadow part of him]]).
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ThePunishment: [[spoiler:Done to Illidan in the end]].



* RippleEffectProofMemory
* ShellShockedVeteran: Brox.

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* %%* RippleEffectProofMemory
* %%* SatanicArchetype: Sargeras.
%%*
ShellShockedVeteran: Brox.



* SupportingLeader: Jarod Shadowsong in the last battle.

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* %%* SupportingLeader: Jarod Shadowsong in the last battle.



* [[ThisIsYourBrainOnEvil This Is Your Brain On Magic]]

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* [[ThisIsYourBrainOnEvil This Is Your Brain On Magic]]%%* ThisIsYourBrainOnEvil



* TimeTravel: see above.
* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Until the very end, the main characters are the only ones who know Azshara is not [[SaveThePrincess captured by the demons]]. A few do suspect so, but decide not to bring it up because it would turn pretty much everyone else against them.
** Which makes everyone (at least, the night elves) confused when an assassin kills [[spoiler:Ravencrest]] while screaming her name.

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* %%* TimeTravel: see above.
* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Until the very end, the main characters are the only ones who know Azshara is not [[SaveThePrincess captured by the demons]]. A few do suspect so, but decide not to bring it up because it would turn pretty much everyone else against them.
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them. Which makes everyone (at least, the night elves) confused when an assassin kills [[spoiler:Ravencrest]] while screaming her name.



* WorldTree: in the end, how the dragons deal with [[spoiler:the new Well]].

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* WorldTree: in WorldTree:
** In
the end, how the dragons deal with [[spoiler:the new Well]].



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16th Jun '15 6:00:45 AM jormis29
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* PortalCut: Sargeras is halfway through the Well of Eternity's portal when it's forcefully closed, causing him to "cease to be" (although his spirit has shown up later in ''TheLastGuardian'', albeit only a [[FightingAShadow part of him]]).

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* PortalCut: Sargeras is halfway through the Well of Eternity's portal when it's forcefully closed, causing him to "cease to be" (although his spirit has shown up later in ''TheLastGuardian'', ''[[Literature/WarcraftTheLastGuardian' The Last Guardian]]'', albeit only a [[FightingAShadow part of him]]).
14th May '15 6:19:04 AM SeptimusHeap
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''The War of the Ancients'' by RichardKnaak is a ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}}'' novel trilogy set in the Franchise/WarcraftExpandedUniverse. It chronicles the events of the titular War of the Ancients where the Night Elves fight against the Burning Legion and attempt to save the planet from total annihilation. The story is noteworthy for the fact that it stars three characters from the present day Azeroth time line who travel back to the event and enact subtle changes. Many believe that the book was written to actually justify some of the changes to the Warcraft time line. However, few of the retcons are related to the most egregious retcons that remain unanswered.

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''The War of the Ancients'' by RichardKnaak Creator/RichardKnaak is a ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}}'' novel trilogy set in the Franchise/WarcraftExpandedUniverse. It chronicles the events of the titular War of the Ancients where the Night Elves fight against the Burning Legion and attempt to save the planet from total annihilation. The story is noteworthy for the fact that it stars three characters from the present day Azeroth time line who travel back to the event and enact subtle changes. Many believe that the book was written to actually justify some of the changes to the Warcraft time line. However, few of the retcons are related to the most egregious retcons that remain unanswered.
28th Feb '15 1:44:40 PM Hello101
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* BadassNormal: Jarod Shadowsong. With Ravencrest, he's the only character with no magic powers or super strength (like Brox and the Taurens), but is a very good strategist, a good fighter and in the end ''[[{{Determinator}} faces Archimonde himself]]'', and doesn't quit even if he knows he can't win.

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* AtopAMountainOfCorpses: [[spoiler:Brox in his DyingMomentOfAwesome.]]
* BadassNormal: Jarod Shadowsong. With Ravencrest, he's the only character with no magic powers or super strength (like Brox and the Taurens), Tauren), but is a very good strategist, a good fighter and in the end ''[[{{Determinator}} faces Archimonde himself]]'', and doesn't quit even if he knows he can't win.



** Although to be fair about 1/3 do realize that Azshara has lost it.

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** Although to be fair about 1/3 do realize that Azshara has lost it.it, and [[spoiler:some of them even stay behind to give the others time to get away.]]



* TheDreaded: Archimond, who Mannoroth mentions he's "almost" as afraid of him as he is Sargeras.

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* TheDreaded: Archimond, Archimonde, who Mannoroth mentions he's "almost" as afraid of him as he is Sargeras.



*** Let me state this in clear detail. Demons in Warcraft are beings who cannot think of anything but pure, unfiltered hatred for all living things. ''They fall in love with her''. That she thought she could woo even Sargeras is less a display of egotisim and more of a sultry self confidence.
*** To be fair in one scene with Illidan it's implied that she's enhancing her natural sexy with magic, but so subtly that nobody actually notices. So technically using magic to make the girls, boys and demons want her for her own gain. Illidan himself is somewhat victim to it even when he notices.

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*** Let me state this in clear detail. Demons in Warcraft are beings who cannot think of anything but pure, unfiltered hatred for all living things. ''They fall in love with her''. That she thought she could woo even Sargeras is less a display of egotisim egotism and arguably more of a sultry self confidence.
*** To be fair fair, in one scene with Illidan it's heavily implied that she's enhancing her natural sexy appeal with magic, but so subtly that nobody actually notices. So technically using magic to make the girls, boys and demons want her for her own gain. notices. Illidan himself is somewhat victim to it it, even when he notices.notices and despite his own skill in magic.



** For [[spoiler:Illidan]]. Being locked up in a cave for the rest of your life is bad enough. But when you're '''immortal''' then it is just insane.
** Also, in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', you can find [[spoiler:Varo'then's ghost. Apparently, his punishment for betraying Kalimdor was literally to [[WalkingTheEarth roam the earth]] forever after his death. When you find him in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', it's been more than 10.000 years since the War of the Ancients!]]

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** For [[spoiler:Illidan]]. Being locked up in a cave for the rest of your life is bad enough. enough when you're mortal. But when you're '''immortal''' then it is just insane.
insane.
** Also, in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', you can find [[spoiler:Varo'then's ghost. Apparently, his punishment for betraying Kalimdor was literally to [[WalkingTheEarth roam the earth]] forever after his death. When you find him in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', it's been more than 10.000 10,000 years since the War of the Ancients!]]



* {{Flanderization}}

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* {{Flanderization}}{{Flanderization}}: Illidan gets this to a noticeable degree. However, even at his worst, he's not pure evil.



** Played with [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Azshara]] who, as a sorceress (and one of the most powerful magic-users), easily makes friend with monstrous felhunter demons.

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** Played with by [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Azshara]] who, as a sorceress (and one of the most powerful magic-users), easily makes friend with monstrous felhunter demons.



* GeneralFailure: Desdel Stareye doesn't know a thing about how to fight a war yet thinks he should be in charge by virtue of being a nobleman. This is even more jarring since there ''are'' noblemen who know how to fight, like Lord Ravencrest, who, unfortunately, ends up [[spoiler:being killed by one of Azshara's assassins]]. His "brilliant" plan involves marching straight into enemy lines, which results in many casualties when the demons spring their (fairly obvious) trap. The only consolation is that Stareye himself dies as a result, leaving the much more competent Jarod Shadowsong (a commoner) in charge. Additionally, his FantasticRacism results in him putting the Tauren, Furbolg, and Earthen (proto-Dwarves) forces in the support role, when they're much more useful on the front lines.



** It was originally a lot more simple, actually: influencing Neltharion/Deathwing to create the Dragon Soul and bringing it near the well where they could use its power to free themselves and at the same time fatally weakening the Dragon Flights, their worst enemy. It's when Neltharion grows too attached to the artifact to give it up that they have to [[XanatosSpeedChess improvise.]]
*** It's even simpler than that. According to Krasus, significantly altering the Azeroth timeline would "rip Time apart," which would unmake the Old Gods' prison. They chose to change the outcome of the War of the Ancients to accomplish this, but it didn't necessarily have to happen in that super-specific way. They just wanted either the demons or Neltharion to come out on top.
* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Brox]], and possibly [[spoiler:Malorne]].
* HopeSpot: For the night elf army, [[spoiler:Neltharion/Deathwing annihilating the demon army with his weapon. Cool, we are saved! Wait, what is he doing?]]
** When Illidan and the others spot the [[spoiler:dragons]], they cheer , assuming that the tide has turned. Rhonin also spots them, and immediately starts muttering "No" under his breath; he knows what this means, but is utterly powerless to change the outcome.

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** It was originally a lot more simple, actually: influencing Neltharion/Deathwing to create the Dragon Soul and bringing it near the well where they could use its power to free themselves and at the same time fatally weakening the Dragon Flights, Dragonflights, their worst enemy. It's when Neltharion grows too attached to the artifact to give it up that they have to [[XanatosSpeedChess improvise.]]
*** It's even simpler than that. According to Krasus, significantly altering the Azeroth timeline would "rip Time apart," which would unmake the Old Gods' prison. They chose to change the outcome of the War of the Ancients to accomplish this, but it didn't necessarily have to happen in that super-specific way. They just wanted either the demons or Neltharion to come out on top.
top instead of the mortals.
* GeneralFailure: Desdel Stareye doesn't know a thing about how to fight a war yet thinks he should be in charge by virtue of being a nobleman. This is even more jarring since there ''are'' noblemen who know how to fight, like Lord Ravencrest, who, unfortunately, ends up [[spoiler:being killed by one of Azshara's assassins]]. His "brilliant" plan involves marching straight into enemy lines, which results in many casualties when the demons spring their (fairly obvious) trap. The only consolation is that Stareye himself dies as a result, leaving the much more competent Jarod Shadowsong (a commoner) in charge. Additionally, his FantasticRacism results in him putting the Tauren, Furbolg, and Earthen (proto-Dwarves) forces in the support role, when they're much more useful on the front lines.
* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Brox]], and possibly [[spoiler:Malorne]].
* HopeSpot: For the night elf army, [[spoiler:Neltharion/Deathwing annihilating the demon army with his weapon. Cool, we are we're saved! Wait, what is he what's [[TheStarscream he]] doing?]]
** When Illidan and the others spot the [[spoiler:dragons]], they cheer , assuming that the tide has turned. Rhonin also spots them, and immediately starts muttering "No" "[[OhCrap No]]" under his breath; he knows what this means, but is utterly powerless to change the outcome.



* InformedAttribute: Azshara is supposedly very powerful, with Mannoroth stating that she is only behind Sargeas and Archimonde in terms of power for the legion's forces, we never really see her use this power though.
** We do see some of it when Illidian sees her with the eyesight Sargeas gave him and notices that much of [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating adoration]] she gets comes her magic, and even though he's aware of it, he has difficulty fighting it.

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* InformedAttribute: Azshara is supposedly very powerful, with Mannoroth stating that she is only behind Sargeas Sargeras, Archimonde, and Archimonde possibly Kil'jaeden in terms of power for the legion's forces, we Legion's forces. We never really see her use this power though.
though, save for her apparently being a BarrierWarrior who could hold Mannoroth off rather easily.
** We do see some of it when Illidian sees her with the eyesight Sargeas Sargeras gave him and notices that much of [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating adoration]] she gets comes from her magic, and even though he's aware of it, he has difficulty fighting it.



* NeckSnap: This is how [[spoiler:[[TheDragon Archimonde]]]] kills [[spoiler:Malorne, the White Stag]]. Subverted in that it takes even the [[spoiler:demon]] a lot of effort to do so. Then again, killing a [[spoiler:[[DivineParentage demigod]]]] should not be easy.

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* NeckSnap: This is how [[spoiler:[[TheDragon Archimonde]]]] kills [[spoiler:Malorne, the White Stag]]. Subverted in that it takes even the [[spoiler:demon]] a lot of effort to do so. Then again, killing a [[spoiler:[[DivineParentage demigod]]]] should not shouldn't be easy.



* PortalCut: Sargeras is halfway through the Well of Eternity's portal when it's forcefully closed, causing him to "cease to be" (although his spirit has shown up later in ''TheLastGuardian'').

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* PortalCut: Sargeras is halfway through the Well of Eternity's portal when it's forcefully closed, causing him to "cease to be" (although his spirit has shown up later in ''TheLastGuardian'').''TheLastGuardian'', albeit only a [[FightingAShadow part of him]]).



* SpannerInTheWorks: The heroes may have won the war against the Burning Legion, but what stopped the [[spoiler:Old Gods from breaking out of their prison was that they didn't expect Deathwing to be so much attached to the Dragon Soul]].

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* SpannerInTheWorks: The heroes may have won the war against the Burning Legion, but what stopped the [[spoiler:Old Gods from breaking out of their prison was that they didn't expect Deathwing to be so much attached to the Dragon Soul]].



* TemporalParadox: Averted. Apparently, you can change the past. Notably, this book has more than a few situations which really should result in paradoxes (or at least massive changes in the timeline), but don't. Most notably, the earthen participating in the battle should have radically changed dwarven history since these were their ancestors. The only major change is the Blue Dragon Flight being saved from total annihilation, allowing them to become enemies in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft: Wrath of the Lich King''.

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* TemporalParadox: Averted. Apparently, you can change the past. Notably, this book has more than a few situations which really should result in paradoxes (or at least massive changes in the timeline), but don't. Most notably, the earthen participating in the battle should have radically changed dwarven history since these were their ancestors. ancestors, at least to some degree. The only major change is the Blue Dragon Flight Dragonflight being saved from total annihilation, allowing them to become enemies in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft: Wrath of the Lich King''.



* TimePolice: The role of the Dragon Aspect of Time, apparently.

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* TimePolice: The role of the Dragon Aspect of Time, apparently. Later shown that the entire Bronze Dragonflight is this.



** Which makes everyone confused when an assassin kills [[spoiler:Ravencrest]] while screaming her name.

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** Which makes everyone (at least, the night elves) confused when an assassin kills [[spoiler:Ravencrest]] while screaming her name.



* WhipItGood: Hakkar. He can summon demons with it.

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* WhipItGood: Hakkar. He can [[SummonMagic summon demons demons]] with it.



* YouHaveFailedMe: Mannoroth experiences a mild case of this from Archimonde, but all it amounts to is Archimonde berating him for failing and taking over his job. Sargeras plays it straight by torturing Xavius, but gives that as warning not to screw up again before reviving him and sending him back to Kalimdor. It still got his point across since Xavius considered Sargeras' punishment worse than dying.
* YouShallNotPass: [[spoiler:Brox, fighting demons in their homeworld after being through the portal. He does such a good job that Sargeras himself comes to investigate. Brox then becomes the only mortal to wound Sargeras, chopping a tiny wound in his armor with the magic axe.]].

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* YouHaveFailedMe: While he initially fears the straight version of this, Mannoroth experiences a mild case of this from Archimonde, but all it amounts to is Archimonde berating him for failing and taking over his job. Sargeras plays it straight by torturing Xavius, but gives that as just a warning not to screw up again before reviving him and sending him back to Kalimdor. It still got his point across since Xavius considered Sargeras' punishment worse than dying.
* YouShallNotPass: [[spoiler:Brox, fighting the demons in their homeworld after being going through the portal. He does such a good job that Sargeras himself comes to investigate. eliminate him. In his last moments, Brox then becomes the only known mortal to ever wound Sargeras, chopping a tiny wound in his armor with the his magic axe.]].
21st Feb '15 12:48:14 PM Phoenixion
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* NamesTheSame: The demon Hakkar has apparently nothing to do with the troll god Hakkar from ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''.
31st Jan '15 5:48:15 AM Nithael
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''The War of the Ancients'' by RichardKnaak is a ''{{Warcraft}}'' novel trilogy set in the WarcraftExpandedUniverse. It chronicles the events of the titular War of the Ancients where the Night Elves fight against the Burning Legion and attempt to save the planet from total annihilation. The story is noteworthy for the fact that it stars three characters from the present day Azeroth time line who travel back to the event and enact subtle changes. Many believe that the book was written to actually justify some of the changes to the Warcraft time line. However, few of the retcons are related to the most egregious retcons that remain unanswered.

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''The War of the Ancients'' by RichardKnaak is a ''{{Warcraft}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}}'' novel trilogy set in the WarcraftExpandedUniverse.Franchise/WarcraftExpandedUniverse. It chronicles the events of the titular War of the Ancients where the Night Elves fight against the Burning Legion and attempt to save the planet from total annihilation. The story is noteworthy for the fact that it stars three characters from the present day Azeroth time line who travel back to the event and enact subtle changes. Many believe that the book was written to actually justify some of the changes to the Warcraft time line. However, few of the retcons are related to the most egregious retcons that remain unanswered.



** Also, in ''WorldOfWarcraft'', you can find [[spoiler:Varo'then's ghost. Apparently, his punishment for betraying Kalimdor was literally to [[WalkingTheEarth roam the earth]] forever after his death. When you find him in ''WorldOfWarcraft'', it's been more than 10.000 years since the War of the Ancients!]]

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** Also, in ''WorldOfWarcraft'', ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', you can find [[spoiler:Varo'then's ghost. Apparently, his punishment for betraying Kalimdor was literally to [[WalkingTheEarth roam the earth]] forever after his death. When you find him in ''WorldOfWarcraft'', ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', it's been more than 10.000 years since the War of the Ancients!]]



* ForegoneConclusion: If you are familiar with the {{Warcraft}} games, you should know [[spoiler:the fate of Illidan and Azshara, or how the war ends]].
** However, due to the time traveling involved, several things are different from the backstory given in the WarCraft III manual. Whether or not this has any impact on the characters involved going forward is debatable

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* ForegoneConclusion: If you are familiar with the {{Warcraft}} games, ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII'', you should know [[spoiler:the fate of Illidan and Azshara, or how the war ends]].
**
ends]]. However, due to the time traveling involved, several things are different from the backstory given in the WarCraft III ''Warcraft III'' manual. Whether or not this has any impact on the characters involved going forward is debatable



* NamesTheSame: The demon Hakkar has apparently nothing to do with the troll god Hakkar from ''WorldOfWarcraft''.

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* NamesTheSame: The demon Hakkar has apparently nothing to do with the troll god Hakkar from ''WorldOfWarcraft''.''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''.



* RememberTheNewGuy: Hakkar, who was apparently around during the events of ''Reign of Chaos'' even though he wasn't in the game. Most dialogue, however, implies he wasn't too significant a leader and as we do see in WorldOfWarcraft, there are [[CaptainObvious commanders in the Burning Legion besides the characters we saw in Reign of Chaos]].

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* RememberTheNewGuy: Hakkar, who was apparently around during the events of ''Reign of Chaos'' even though he wasn't in the game. Most dialogue, however, implies he wasn't too significant a leader and as we do see in WorldOfWarcraft, ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', there are [[CaptainObvious commanders in the Burning Legion besides the characters we saw in Reign of Chaos]].



* TemporalParadox: Averted. Apparently, you can change the past. A powerful Demon Lord is killed before the Second War and the Blue Dragon Flight is saved from total annihilation. Nothing of "real" consequence actually occurs, though.
** Until World of Warcraft. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Thanks, Krasus. You owe me my repair bill from pre-nerf Oculus]].
** To expand on that, the blue dragonflight was wiped out in the original timeline, but eggs were saved in the altered one. This helps Malygos become sane again, and in his sanity, he starts doing his job again: which amounts to banning magic under penalty of death, and disposing of the magic in a way that will accidentally blow up the world. If the eggs were never saved, he would still be depressed and reclusive, as well as having no minions.
** However, this action restored his dragonflight, but his insanity is later retconned into still being fully around until Tyrigosa brings the nether drakes to the Nexus much later.
** Notably, this book has more than a few situations which really should result in paradoxes (or at least massive changes in the timeline), but don't. Most notably, the earthen participating in the battle should have radically changed dwarven history since these were their ancestors.

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* TemporalParadox: Averted. Apparently, you can change the past. A powerful Demon Lord is killed before the Second War and the Blue Dragon Flight is saved from total annihilation. Nothing of "real" consequence actually occurs, though.
** Until World of Warcraft. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Thanks, Krasus. You owe me my repair bill from pre-nerf Oculus]].
** To expand on that, the blue dragonflight was wiped out in the original timeline, but eggs were saved in the altered one. This helps Malygos become sane again, and in his sanity, he starts doing his job again: which amounts to banning magic under penalty of death, and disposing of the magic in a way that will accidentally blow up the world. If the eggs were never saved, he would still be depressed and reclusive, as well as having no minions.
** However, this action restored his dragonflight, but his insanity is later retconned into still being fully around until Tyrigosa brings the nether drakes to the Nexus much later.
**
Notably, this book has more than a few situations which really should result in paradoxes (or at least massive changes in the timeline), but don't. Most notably, the earthen participating in the battle should have radically changed dwarven history since these were their ancestors. The only major change is the Blue Dragon Flight being saved from total annihilation, allowing them to become enemies in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft: Wrath of the Lich King''.
28th Nov '14 9:57:19 PM kankai
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* YouShallNotPass: [[spoiler:Brox, fighting demons in their homeworld after being through the portal]].

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* YouShallNotPass: [[spoiler:Brox, fighting demons in their homeworld after being through the portal]].
portal. He does such a good job that Sargeras himself comes to investigate. Brox then becomes the only mortal to wound Sargeras, chopping a tiny wound in his armor with the magic axe.]].
28th Nov '14 9:51:42 PM kankai
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**When Illidan and the others spot the [[spoiler:dragons]], they cheer , assuming that the tide has turned. Rhonin also spots them, and immediately starts muttering "No" under his breath; he knows what this means, but is utterly powerless to change the outcome.
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