History Literature / TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles

21st Sep '16 1:27:20 PM GMantis
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The great detective is called on to investigate the death of Sir Charles Baskerville, which his doctor attributes to a legendary family curse connected to an enormous spectral hound. For better or worse, Sir Charles's nephew Sir Henry is coming from the USA to claim his inheritance, and so Holmes and Watson have to team up to keep him safe from this supposed "family curse".

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The great detective is called on to investigate the death of Sir Charles Baskerville, which his doctor attributes to a legendary family curse connected to an enormous spectral hound. For better or worse, Sir Charles's nephew Sir Henry is coming from the USA Canada to claim his inheritance, and so Holmes and Watson have to team up to keep him safe from this supposed "family curse".
11th Sep '16 2:49:58 AM PaulA
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* TheButlerDidIt: The butler John Barrymore is a major suspect, but turns out to be a RedHerring. What he and the housekeeper/his wife Elisa ''did'' do was shelter ''another'' killer... [[spoiler: Elisa's bother Selden]].

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* TheButlerDidIt: The butler John Barrymore is a major suspect, but turns out to be a RedHerring. What he and the housekeeper/his wife Elisa ''did'' do was shelter ''another'' killer... [[spoiler: Elisa's bother brother Selden]].
10th Sep '16 7:42:42 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* BrokenBird: Beryl Garcia-Stapleton and Laura Frankland-Lyons are both beautiful women with {{dark and toubled past}}s that have completely fucked them over.

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* BrokenBird: Beryl Garcia-Stapleton and Laura Frankland-Lyons are both beautiful women with {{dark and toubled troubled past}}s that have completely fucked them over.



* TheButlerDidIt: The butler John Barrymore is a major suspect, but turns out to be a RedHerring. What he and the housekeeper/his wife Elisa ''did'' do was shelter ''another'' killer... Selden.

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* TheButlerDidIt: The butler John Barrymore is a major suspect, but turns out to be a RedHerring. What he and the housekeeper/his wife Elisa ''did'' do was shelter ''another'' killer... Selden.[[spoiler: Elisa's bother Selden]].



* DidntThinkThisThrough: In the Epilogue, Watson points out that Stapleton's scheme had one major flaw -- how could he claim the Baskerville fortune without instantly raising suspicion on himself? Holmes says that Beryl told him that her husband planned to either a) go back to South America and claim the inheritance from there, b) create another disguise to claim it, c) engage some accomplice to claim it for him instead.

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* DidntThinkThisThrough: In the Epilogue, Watson points out that Stapleton's scheme had one major flaw -- how '''how could he claim the Baskerville fortune without instantly raising suspicion on himself? himself?''' Holmes says that Beryl told him that her husband planned to either a) go back to South America and claim the inheritance from there, b) create another disguise to claim it, c) engage some accomplice to claim it for him instead.



* EvenEvilCanBeLoved: The escaped SerialKiller Seldon is still loved by his sister Elisa Barrymore. Upon seeing her completely heartbroken reaction after Seldon is accidentally killed by the Hound, Watson comments [[LampshadeHanging "Evil indeed is the man who has not one woman to mourn him."]] Which, although Watson doesn't make the connection explicit, tells us something about the villain of the novel, whose death at the end is mourned by nobody; the one woman who might have been expected to mourn him, his much abused wife Beryl, is positively glad to see him go.

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** When Watson notes that the otherwise calm and collected Elisa has been crying at night, he briefly wonders if Barrymore abuses her. It turns out she's crying because of Selden's situation instead.
* EvenEvilCanBeLoved: The escaped SerialKiller Seldon is still loved by his sister Elisa Barrymore. Upon seeing her completely heartbroken reaction after Seldon is accidentally killed by the Hound, Watson comments [[LampshadeHanging "Evil indeed is the man who has not one woman to mourn him."]] Which, although Watson doesn't make the connection explicit, tells us the reader something about the villain of the novel, whose death at the end is mourned by nobody; the one woman who might have been expected to mourn him, his much abused wife Beryl, is positively glad to see him go.


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** Stapleton commits a HUGE mistake by mentioning an actually true of his backstory (that he was a school teacher and used to manage a BoardingSchool, but some of his pupils died in an illness outbreak and he was bankrupted) to Watson. When Watson tells Holmes, he ''very'' easily tracks Stapleton down by gathering info about such an incident; he even lampshades it by saying that Stapleton must have kicked himself repeteadly for SayingTooMuch.
10th Sep '16 7:22:12 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* BrokenBird: Beryl Garcia-Stapleton and Laura Frankland-Lyons.

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* BrokenBird: Beryl Garcia-Stapleton and Laura Frankland-Lyons.Frankland-Lyons are both beautiful women with {{dark and toubled past}}s that have completely fucked them over.



* ADayInTheLimelight: In many ways, this is Watson's novel, as Holmes is offstage for six of the novel's fifteen chapters and reappears only after Watson has already done much of the legwork.

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* ADayInTheLimelight: In many ways, this is Watson's ''Watson's'' novel, as Holmes is offstage for six of the novel's fifteen chapters and reappears only after Watson has already done much of the legwork.



* HighHeelFaceTurn: Both female characters involved with the villain end up helping the heroes. It's actually subverted: Beryl helps not just because of Henry's love, but as ''her revenge against the villain who treated her like shit for years'', which smacks of TheDogBitesBack. (Though in some adaptations she ''also'' loves Henry [[InLoveWithTheMark because he]] [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe was kind to her]].) Laura Lyons, meanwhile, is furious that Stapleton lied to her about the possibility of marrying her and used her to help kill Sir Charles, who she owed so much to, and helps the heroes out of spite as much as anything else.

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* HighHeelFaceTurn: Both female characters involved with the villain end up helping the heroes. It's actually subverted: heroes... but they subvert it:
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Beryl helps not just because of Henry's love, but as ''her revenge against the villain who treated her like shit for years'', which smacks of TheDogBitesBack. (Though [[note]](Though in some adaptations she ''also'' loves Henry [[InLoveWithTheMark because he]] [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe was kind to her]].) )[[/note]]
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Laura Lyons, meanwhile, Lyons is furious that Stapleton lied to her about the possibility of marrying her and used her to help kill Sir Charles, [[IOweYouMyLife who she owed so much to, to]], and helps the heroes out of spite as much as anything else.



** The 2002 movie adds several details. e.g., Dr. Mortimer is actually an old man and quite more serious than in the book, his wife is an ardent believer in the supernatural and hosts a séance that turns out to be being ''very'' plot-important, [[spoiler: Selden]] not only [[spoiler: is directly shown]] but actually becomes an AscendedExtra, Frankland and Laura aren't included, and not only does [[spoiler: Stapleton murder poor Beryl]], but [[spoiler: his motives go much more by ItsPersonal than the huge Baskerville inheritance itself.]]

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** The 2002 movie adds several details. e.g., Dr. Mortimer is actually an old man and quite more serious than in the book, his wife is an ardent believer in the supernatural and hosts a séance that turns out to be being ''very'' plot-important, [[spoiler: Selden]] not only [[spoiler: is directly shown]] shown but actually becomes an AscendedExtra, Frankland and Laura aren't included, are AdaptedOut, and not only does [[spoiler: Stapleton murder poor Beryl]], but [[spoiler: his motives go much more by ItsPersonal than the huge Baskerville inheritance itself.]]



* QuicksandSucks: Cranked UpToEleven in the 2002 movie, which starts with two policemen [[spoiler:who were pursuing Selden]] being swallowed by the Grimpen Mire ''on screen''.

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* QuicksandSucks: Cranked UpToEleven in the 2002 movie, which starts with two policemen [[spoiler:who were pursuing Selden]] being swallowed by the Grimpen Mire ''on screen''.screen'', as [[spoiler: Selden]] himself looks in shock.
5th Aug '16 5:35:14 AM JustTroper
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* SpeechImpededLoveInterest: Beryl is this for Henry.
5th Aug '16 5:33:13 AM JustTroper
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* SpeechImpediment: Beryl Stapleton has a lisp, though it may be just her accent.
9th Jul '16 10:35:57 AM Ciara25
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* BookEnds: Near the beginning of Dr. Watson's stay on Dartmoor, Stapleton runs into the Grimpen Mire to catch a butterfly. Near the end, he does it again, this time to escape the people who'll be comig after him -- but unfortunately for him, a thick fog has risen, and he can't see the markers which allow him to do it safely.

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* BookEnds: Near the beginning of Dr. Watson's stay on Dartmoor, Stapleton runs into the Grimpen Mire to catch a butterfly. butterfly, having previously put markers in the spots that are safe to walk on. Near the end, he does it again, this time to escape the people who'll be comig coming after him in order to bring him to justice -- but unfortunately for him, a thick fog has risen, risen during the night, and this time he can't see the markers which allow him to do it safely.travel through the mire safely...



* TheButlerDidIt: The butler John Barrymore is a major suspect, but turns out to be a RedHerring. What he and the housekeeper/his wife Elisa ''did'' do was sheltering ''another'' killer... Selden.

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* TheButlerDidIt: The butler John Barrymore is a major suspect, but turns out to be a RedHerring. What he and the housekeeper/his wife Elisa ''did'' do was sheltering shelter ''another'' killer... Selden.



* ChekhovsGun: Stapleton shows Watson the Grimpen Moor and notes that the boggy moor is certain death to anyone who wanders in and doesn't know the way out.
* ContrivedCoincidence: Seldon is making a break for freedom, dressed in Sir Henry's clothes which his sister provided him with, on one of the nights Stapleton lets the hound loose.
* CutAndPasteNote: Sir Henry receives one warning him to stay away from Baskerville Hall. Holmes is able to identify the newspapers that had been chopped up, by the font, and the type of scissors used to do it. It came from Beryl, locked away in an hotel room by Stapleton to not lose sight of her as he made his evil plans; she still managed to grab the nearest newspaper and make the letter. She ended up having to manually write the word 'moor' in crude letters that disguised her handwriting, as that isn't a word that is generally found in the typical daily newspaper of a city that isn't near one (Why she didn't piece the word together by cutting up and rearranging the letters of the commonly used word 'room' isn't mentioned).

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* ChekhovsGun: Stapleton shows Watson the Grimpen Moor Mire and notes that the boggy moor is certain death to anyone who wanders in and doesn't know the way out.
* ContrivedCoincidence: Seldon is making a break for freedom, dressed in Sir Henry's old clothes which his sister provided him with, on one of the nights Stapleton lets the hound loose.
* CutAndPasteNote: Sir Henry receives one warning him to stay away from Baskerville Hall. Holmes is able to identify the newspapers that had been chopped up, by the font, and the type of scissors used to do it. It came from Beryl, locked away in an a hotel room by Stapleton to so as not lose sight track of her as he made his evil plans; she still managed to grab the nearest newspaper and make the letter. She ended up having to manually write the word 'moor' in crude letters that disguised her handwriting, as that isn't a word that is generally found in the typical daily newspaper of a city that isn't near one (Why (why she didn't piece the word together by cutting up and rearranging the letters of the commonly used word 'room' isn't mentioned).



* HoneyTrap: The villain forces a young woman named Beryl Stapleton to act as one for Sir Henry.

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* HoneyTrap: The villain forces a young woman named his wife Beryl Stapleton to act as one for Sir Henry.Henry, pretending to everyone that she's his sister.



* KickTheDog: almost literally: Stapleton feeds Dr. Mortimer's pet spaniel to the hound. He also treats his wife appallingly, essentially pimping her out to Sir Henry.

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* KickTheDog: almost literally: Stapleton feeds Dr. Mortimer's pet spaniel to the hound. He also treats his wife appallingly, essentially pimping her out to Sir Henry.Henry and physically abusing her when she defies him.



* NeverFoundTheBody: The villain's body is lost in the Grimpen Mire.

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* NeverFoundTheBody: The villain's body is lost in the Grimpen Mire.Mire, after he makes a failed attempt to escape.



* SherlockScan: Holmes, of course. Watson makes an semi-successful attempt at one in the first chapter. Dr Mortimer also makes one off-screen, correctly deducing something that Holmes found quite interesting (There was a significant amount of cigar ash on the ground near the moor gate the morning Sir Charles was found dead, suggesting that when Sir Charles went out for his evening walk and smoke on the night of his death, he lingered by the gate for several minutes).
* SiblingYinYang: The Stapleton siblings. Older brother Jack is coolheaded, polite and blond. Younger sister Beryl is tall, dark haired and HotBlooded. Subverted, as they're ''not'' siblings.

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* SherlockScan: Holmes, of course. Watson makes an semi-successful attempt at one in the first chapter. Dr Mortimer also makes one off-screen, correctly deducing something that Holmes found quite interesting (There interesting; there was a significant amount of cigar ash on the ground near the moor gate the morning Sir Charles was found dead, suggesting that when Sir Charles went out for his evening walk and smoke on the night of his death, he lingered by the gate for several minutes).
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* SiblingYinYang: The Stapleton siblings. Older brother Jack is coolheaded, cool headed, polite and blond. Younger sister Beryl is tall, dark haired and HotBlooded. Subverted, as they're ''not'' siblings.



** The 2002 movie adds several details. e.g., Dr. Mortimer is actually an old man and quite more serious than in the book, his wife is an ardent believer in the supernatural and hosts a séance that turns out to be being ''very'' plot-important, [[spoiler: Selden]] not only [[spoiler: is directly shown]] but actually becomes an AscendedExtra, Frankland and Laura aren't included, and not only [[spoiler: Stapleton murders poor Beryl]], but [[spoiler: his motives go much more by ItsPersonal than the huge Baskerville inheritance itself.]]

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** The 2002 movie adds several details. e.g., Dr. Mortimer is actually an old man and quite more serious than in the book, his wife is an ardent believer in the supernatural and hosts a séance that turns out to be being ''very'' plot-important, [[spoiler: Selden]] not only [[spoiler: is directly shown]] but actually becomes an AscendedExtra, Frankland and Laura aren't included, and not only does [[spoiler: Stapleton murders murder poor Beryl]], but [[spoiler: his motives go much more by ItsPersonal than the huge Baskerville inheritance itself.]]



* AdaptationNameChange: Beryl becomes Cecile in 1959 version. Barrymore becomes Barryman in 1939 version.

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* AdaptationNameChange: Beryl becomes Cecile in 1959 version. Barrymore becomes Barryman in the 1939 version.



** Lestrade in several adaptations, replaced with the already established character of Dr Mortimer, and thus rather fitting in having him be involved in bringing Sir Charles' murderer brought to justice.

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** Lestrade in several adaptations, replaced with the already established character of Dr Mortimer, and thus Mortimer; it's rather fitting in that, having him be involved brought the case to Holmes' attention in the first place, he's also included in bringing Sir Charles' murderer brought to justice.



* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler: Beryl is murdered by Stapleton in the 2002 movie. Also, while still heavily implied dead in the novel, Stapleton himself is given a much more definite death scene, likely as some catharsis for the former act.]]

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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler: Beryl is murdered by Stapleton in the 2002 movie.movie when she refuses to help him any further in harming Sir Henry. Also, while still heavily implied dead in the novel, Stapleton himself is given a much more definite death scene, likely as some catharsis for the former act.]]



** [[spoiler:And the GrandFinale has the BigBad Stapleton swallowed as well. Holmes ''barely'' survives thanks to a BigDamnHeroes by Watson.]]
** Although somewhat subverted, since [[spoiler:instead of being swallowed up while alive, as in the book, Stapleton is shot in the head by Watson first.]]

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** [[spoiler:And the GrandFinale has Holmes fall into the BigBad mire while pursuing Stapleton swallowed as well. Holmes and ''barely'' survives surviving thanks to a BigDamnHeroes by Watson.]]
** Although somewhat subverted, since [[spoiler:instead of being
Watson. Stapleton isn't swallowed up by the mire while alive, as in the book, Stapleton but is shot in the head by Watson first.]]
18th Jun '16 6:28:10 PM PaulA
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* Didn'tThinkThisThrough: In the Epilogue, Watson points out that Stapleton's scheme had one major flaw - how could he claim the Baskerville fortune without instantly raising suspicion on himself? Holmes says that Beryl told him that her husband planned to either a) go back to South America and claim the inheritance from there, b) create another disguise to claim it, c) engage some accomplice to claim it for him instead.

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* Didn'tThinkThisThrough: DidntThinkThisThrough: In the Epilogue, Watson points out that Stapleton's scheme had one major flaw - -- how could he claim the Baskerville fortune without instantly raising suspicion on himself? Holmes says that Beryl told him that her husband planned to either a) go back to South America and claim the inheritance from there, b) create another disguise to claim it, c) engage some accomplice to claim it for him instead. instead.
18th Jun '16 3:59:32 PM ProfessorGrimm
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* Didn'tThinkThisThrough: In the Epilogue, Watson points out that Stapleton's scheme had one major flaw - how could he claim the Baskerville fortune without instantly raising suspicion on himself? Holmes says that Beryl told him that her husband planned to either a) go back to South America and claim the inheritance from there, b) create another disguise to claim it, c) engage some accomplice to claim it for him instead.
26th Apr '16 8:13:33 PM PaulA
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: The escaped SerialKiller Seldon is still loved by his sister Elisa Barrymore. Upon seeing her completely heartbroken reaction after Seldon is accidentally killed by the Hound, Watson comments [[LampshadeHanging "Evil indeed is the man who has not one woman to mourn him."]] Which, although Watson doesn't make the connection explicit, tells us something about the villain of the novel, whose death at the end is mourned by nobody; the one woman who might have been expected to mourn him, his much abused wife Beryl, is positively glad to see him go.

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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: EvenEvilCanBeLoved: The escaped SerialKiller Seldon is still loved by his sister Elisa Barrymore. Upon seeing her completely heartbroken reaction after Seldon is accidentally killed by the Hound, Watson comments [[LampshadeHanging "Evil indeed is the man who has not one woman to mourn him."]] Which, although Watson doesn't make the connection explicit, tells us something about the villain of the novel, whose death at the end is mourned by nobody; the one woman who might have been expected to mourn him, his much abused wife Beryl, is positively glad to see him go.
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