History Literature / TheHorseAndHisBoy

22nd Aug '16 3:35:40 PM Statzkeen
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* TalkingDownTheSuicidal: Aravis nearly takes her own life to avoid being forced into marriage (she's implied to be in her early teens) with a man several times her own age, until Hwin talks her out of it by saying basically "Nothing gets better for the dead, but if you live, your fortune has a chance to change." It's implied that beyond the sensibility of the argument, it works partially because Hwin gives Aravis a means of escape, partially because ''holy crap a talking horse?!'' helps snap her out of it, and partially because Hwin kneels down and places her own head between the dagger and Aravis' heart to show how much she cares.
1st Aug '16 12:45:50 PM GothicProphet
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* Determinator: Shasta, best exemplified when he rushes to warn King Lune of the impending Calormene invasion. To be clear, he has had little rest beforehand, just jumped off a speeding horse, which knocked the wind out of him, and stared down an angry lion in order to save his friends. He is then forced to make a mad dash, also without rest, to King Lune and his party. He notes beforehand how tired he is, that he feels as if he has no energy. Yet all he asks when the Hermit informs him that he must go is where the King is.

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* Determinator: {{Determinator}}: Shasta, best exemplified when he rushes to warn King Lune of the impending Calormene invasion. To be clear, he has had little rest beforehand, just jumped off a speeding horse, which knocked the wind out of him, and stared down an angry lion in order to save his friends. He is then forced to make a mad dash, also without rest, to King Lune and his party. He notes beforehand how tired he is, that he feels as if he has no energy. Yet all he asks when the Hermit informs him that he must go is where the King is.



%% please do not add TheMasochismTango: that trope suggests that the match is bad and basically
%% destructive, which very obviously isn't what the author describes.



* WhatAnIdiot: When the lion attacks Aravis and chases her and Hwin furiously, Shasta's reaction is to yell at it and command it to leave, like it was a stray dog or something. Despite the fact that it works [[spoiler: because it's actually Aslan, and Aslan is merely trying to make a point]], the text is pretty quick to point out just how foolhardy Shasta was being and how his success was rather unlikely.

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* WhatAnIdiot: When InUniverse; when the lion attacks Aravis and chases her and Hwin furiously, Shasta's reaction is to yell at it and command it to leave, like it was a stray dog or something. Despite the fact that it works [[spoiler: because it's actually Aslan, and Aslan is merely trying to make a point]], the text is pretty quick to point out just how foolhardy Shasta was being and how his success was rather unlikely.
21st Jul '16 2:06:27 PM JoieDeCombat
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* XanatosGambit: The Tisroc's [[OverlyLongGag (may he live forever)]] plan in letting Rabadash off the leash to chase after Queen Susan: if he gets her, all well and good, and he'll not only have a potential long-term means of conquering Narnia, but Rabadash will get to let out some of the sort of hot-blooded passion that leads impatient princes to [[{{Patricide}} try accelerating the process of succession]]. Worst-case scenario, if he dies, well, that's a threat to the throne gone, and the Tisroc (may he live forever) has other sons. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, Aslan's intervention prevents either of these outcomes from happening.]]

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* XanatosGambit: The Tisroc's [[OverlyLongGag (may he live forever)]] plan in letting Rabadash off the leash to chase after Queen Susan: if he gets her, all well and good, and he'll not only have a potential long-term means of conquering Narnia, but Rabadash will get to let out some of the sort of hot-blooded passion that leads impatient princes to [[{{Patricide}} try accelerating the process of succession]]. Worst-case scenario, if he dies, well, that's a threat to the throne gone, and the Tisroc (may he live forever) has other sons. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, Aslan's intervention prevents ends up preventing either of these outcomes from happening.happening; it's not really mentioned what the Tisroc thinks about the end result.]]
21st Jul '16 2:02:05 PM JoieDeCombat
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* TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow: Aslan tells several characters that they are not meant to know a) other people's stories, and b) what could have been if they made different choices. However, the implication is less "You would {{go mad from the revelation}}" and more "Hey, look, I'm not a gossip."

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* TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow: Aslan tells several characters that they are not meant to know a) other people's stories, and b) what could have been if they made different choices. However, the implication is less "You would {{go mad from the revelation}}" and more "Hey, look, I'm not a gossip."gossip," as well as a gentle reminder that it is more important to focus on the path ahead of you rather than get preoccupied with what-ifs.
21st Jul '16 1:48:49 PM JoieDeCombat
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* CripplingOverspecialization: Bree is an excellent teacher of riding, [[DrillSergeantNasty poor demeanor notwithstanding]]. However, Bree teaches Shasta how do specifically ride ''him'' - and as Bree is both intelligent and reasonable, he doesn't need spurring or being reined. Shasta runs into problems with this later, when he's given a normal horse to ride, and he falls behind the other riders.

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* CripplingOverspecialization: Bree is an excellent teacher of riding, [[DrillSergeantNasty poor demeanor notwithstanding]]. However, Bree teaches Shasta how do specifically ride ''him'' - and as Bree is both intelligent and reasonable, an intelligent, reasoning creature, he doesn't need spurring to be reined or being reined. spurred. Shasta runs into problems with this later, when thus has excellent form and balance astride a horse, but absolutely ''no idea'' how to steer or control one. When he's given a normal horse to ride, he's completely at a loss as to what to do with the reins and he soon falls behind the other riders.
21st Jul '16 11:03:50 AM Ace1225
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* Determinator: Shasta, best exemplified when he rushes to warn King Lune of the impending Calormene invasion. To be clear, he has had little rest beforehand, just jumped off a speeding horse, which knocked the wind out of him, and stared down an angry lion in order to save his friends. He is then forced to make a mad dash, also without rest, to King Lune and his party. He notes beforehand how tired he is, that he feels as if he has no energy. Yet all he asks when the Hermit informs him that he must go is where the King is.
30th Jun '16 12:30:11 PM 32_Footsteps
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* ArcWords: "Narnia and the North!" It's the rallying cry for Narnians and Archenlanders in Calormene territory, most frequently used by Bree.



* CloserToEarth: Hwin in general. She tries to keep humble (even saying that what she said to Aravis wasn't nearly as poetic as what Aravis claimed), at the same time keeping herself less concerned with how others perceive her (whereas Bree worries as to how "proper" Narnian talking horses act).



* CripplingOverspecialization: Bree is an excellent teacher of riding, [[DrillSergeantNasty poor demeanor notwithstanding]]. However, Bree teaches Shasta how do specifically ride ''him'' - and as Bree is both intelligent and reasonable, he doesn't need spurring or being reined. Shasta runs into problems with this later, when he's given a normal horse to ride, and he falls behind the other riders.



* DrillSergeantNasty: Bree is noted as being fairly strict with Shasta about learning to ride, and even after all the lessons claims that Shasta sits in the saddle like a sack of potatoes. This is likely another case of Bree's pride; when Archenlander nobles give Shasta a non-talking horse to ride, they immediately note his excellent form.



* KingIncognito: Not intentional, but due to the fact that Lune was gardening at the time, Shasta had no idea that he was the king of Archenland.



* RoyalBlood: Besides the usual suspects, [[spoiler: Shasta, whose real name is Cor, the heir to the throne of Arkenland.]]

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* RoyalBlood: Besides the usual suspects, [[spoiler: Shasta, whose real name is Cor, the heir to the throne of Arkenland.Archenland.]]


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* TwinSwitch: Inadvertently done by Shasta - he's found by the Narnian contingent in Tashbaan and they mistake him for Archenland's Prince Corin, who had earlier run off. [[spoiler: To Corin and Shasta's later surprise, they really are twins.]]


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* WhatAnIdiot: When the lion attacks Aravis and chases her and Hwin furiously, Shasta's reaction is to yell at it and command it to leave, like it was a stray dog or something. Despite the fact that it works [[spoiler: because it's actually Aslan, and Aslan is merely trying to make a point]], the text is pretty quick to point out just how foolhardy Shasta was being and how his success was rather unlikely.


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* YouAreNotAlone: When Shasta, Aravis, Bree, and Hwin end up separated at Tashbaan, they agree to meet up near the tombs said to be haunted with ghouls. Shasta ends up there before anyone else, and he has to spend a night there before his friends rejoin him. As his fear begins to overtake him, and he hears jackals coming, a tawny cat comes to keep him company. [[spoiler: As with all feline interference in Shasta's life, it's Aslan, keeping him safe and comforted as he waits for his friends.]]
3rd May '16 10:25:55 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* MosesInTheBullrushes: Shasta [[spoiler: a.k.a. Prince Cor]].

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* MosesInTheBullrushes: MosesInTheBulrushes: Shasta [[spoiler: a.k.a. Prince Cor]].
19th Apr '16 1:48:57 PM Makhno
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* ArbitraryScepticism: Bree scoffs at the idea that the tombs of the ancient kings are haunted by ghouls, regarding it as foolish superstition. He turns out to be right, and it's true that Calormene is a much less magical place than Narnia: but c'mon - Bree is a ''talking horse''. Also, it was established back in ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' that ghouls exist in the Narniverse.
26th Feb '16 2:53:04 PM Chariset
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* InsistentTerminology: When speaking to or of the Tisroc (may he live forever), it is apparently reflexive to add an appeal to the Calormene gods, 'may you/he live forever.'

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* InsistentTerminology: When speaking to or of the Tisroc (may he live forever), Tisroc, it is apparently reflexive to add an appeal to the Calormene gods, 'may "May you/he live forever.'"



* InThatOrder: [[TheDitz Lasaraleen]] tells her servants that if they reveal Aravis' presence, she'll have them beaten to death, burnt alive, and then kept on bread and water for three weeks - rather ineffectual punishments if done in that order, and a display of her casual, lazy attitude.[[labelnote:analysis]]This allows Lewis to make her a kind of IneffectualSympatheticVillain, which is necessary because she is a friend of Aravis and helps her, but she is still a Calormene noblewoman and a product of her culture.[[/labelnote]]

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* InThatOrder: [[TheDitz Lasaraleen]] tells her servants that if they reveal Aravis' presence, she'll have them beaten to death, burnt alive, and then kept on bread and water for three weeks - -- rather ineffectual punishments if done in that order, and a display of her casual, lazy attitude.[[labelnote:analysis]]This allows Lewis to make her a kind of IneffectualSympatheticVillain, which is necessary because she is a friend of Aravis and helps her, but she is still a Calormene noblewoman and a product of her culture.[[/labelnote]]



* KickTheSonOfABitch: After Ahoshta and the Tisroc (may he live forever) give Rabadash permission to invade Narnia, Ahoshta helps the Tisroc (may he live forever) justify his decision to send his own son go into a situation that will probably get him killed. It's meant to show Ahoshta as an amoral YesMan -- and the Tisroc (may he live forever) not much better -- but then it's not like anyone would really miss Rabadash.

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* KickTheSonOfABitch: After Ahoshta and the Tisroc (may he live forever) give Rabadash permission to invade Narnia, Ahoshta helps the Tisroc (may he live forever) justify his decision to send his own son go into a situation that will probably get him killed. It's meant to show Ahoshta as an amoral YesMan -- and the Tisroc (may he live forever) not much better -- but then it's not like anyone would really miss Rabadash.



* TheMagnificent: Rabadash is called "the Peaceful" to his face, due to [[spoiler: Aslan's judgment making going on campaign nigh-impossible for him]], but he ultimately goes down in history as "Rabadash the Ridiculous."

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* TheMagnificent: Rabadash is called "the Peaceful" Peacemaker" to his face, due to [[spoiler: Aslan's judgment making going on campaign nigh-impossible for him]], but he ultimately goes down in history as "Rabadash the Ridiculous."



* PrinceCharmless: Rabadash was apparently charming enough in Narnia, but when Queen Susan and her company visit him, the mask starts to slip. It comes off entirely when she escapes him.



* XanatosGambit: The Tisroc's [[OverlyLongGag (may he live forever)]] plan in letting Rabadash off the leash to chase after Queen Susan: if he gets her, all well and good, and he'll not only have a potential long-term means of conquering Narnia, but Rabadash will get to let out some of the sort of hot-blooded passion that leads impatient princes to [[{{Patricide}} try accelerating the process of succession]]. Worst-case scenario, if he dies, well, that's a threat to the throne gone, and the Tisroc (may he live forever) has other sons. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, the humiliating fate Aslan inflicts on Rabadash is a monkey wrench in the works.]]

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* XanatosGambit: The Tisroc's [[OverlyLongGag (may he live forever)]] plan in letting Rabadash off the leash to chase after Queen Susan: if he gets her, all well and good, and he'll not only have a potential long-term means of conquering Narnia, but Rabadash will get to let out some of the sort of hot-blooded passion that leads impatient princes to [[{{Patricide}} try accelerating the process of succession]]. Worst-case scenario, if he dies, well, that's a threat to the throne gone, and the Tisroc (may he live forever) has other sons. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, the humiliating fate Aslan inflicts on Rabadash is a monkey wrench in the works.Aslan's intervention prevents either of these outcomes from happening.]]
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