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The novel has been adapted to a two part film starring Creator/StephenChow in 1992, and a 50 episode TV series in 2008.



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-->''As I was walking to St Ives, I met a man with seven wives...''

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* ActionGirl: Empress Dowager[[spoiler:, although she turns out to be Long'er in disguise.]]
* BadassInDistress: [[spoiler:In the second movie, Chan Jinan is defeated by Feng Xifan and imprisoned in the Qing Empire. Xiaobao rescues him after the climatic battle.]]
* ButtMonkey: Xiaobao gets the receiving end of comedic misfortune a lot throughout the movies.
* DenserAndWackier: Since it stars Creator/StephenChow, there's bound to be sexual humor to go along with the story.
* {{Gorn}}: Within the opening scene there's Aobai knocking heads off of assassins. And then there's Hai Dafu's [[LudicrousGibs Bone Crushing Soft Palm attack]]....
* GroinAttack: The Emperor gets his pubic hair torn off by Xiaobao.
* NonActionGuy: Xiaobao for most of the two movies, [[spoiler:[[TookALevelInBadass until the end of the 2nd movie where he goes one-on-one against Feng Xifan.]]]] The Emperor and Duolong are more straighter examples.
* TomboyPrincess: Jianning is very brash and upbeat, and is even first introduced wearing masculine clothing.
* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Chunhua is last seen with Xiaobao's wives in his private quarters and is absent when he flees the land along with Chan Jinan and his five wives.
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* FortyTwo: The 42 Scriptures that everyone (by which we mean ''everyone'') is scheming for.
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* TheLoad: [[NotSoDifferent Mu Jianping and Princess Jianning]] out of the seven wives. Jianping is utterly reliant on Fang Yi and CannotTellALie, while Jianning can go along with Wei's scams but at other times comes across as TooDumbToLive.
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* LawOfInverseFertiliy: Invoked - Wei Xiaobao ends up dragged into an affair with Princess Jianning for a good long while without anything ever happening, up until the Siege of Lichun Court chapter, easily the worst possible time for one of the seven to get pregnant considering ''he hasn't formally won them all over at the time.'' Also worth noting at this point is that Wei has gone from being poisoned by Hai Dafu to being hit by Mao Dongzhu's Dragon Sect martial arts, to being extra-poisoned by Chief Hong, making it a miracle that he can have children at all!

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* LawOfInverseFertiliy: LawOfInverseFertility: Invoked - Wei Xiaobao ends up dragged into an affair with Princess Jianning for a good long while without anything ever happening, up until the Siege of Lichun Court chapter, easily the worst possible time for one of the seven to get pregnant considering ''he hasn't formally won them all over at the time.'' Also worth noting at this point is that Wei has gone from being poisoned by Hai Dafu to being hit by Mao Dongzhu's Dragon Sect martial arts, to being extra-poisoned by Chief Hong, making it a miracle that he can have children at all!
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* LawOfInverseFertiliy: Invoked - Wei Xiaobao ends up dragged into an affair with Princess Jianning for a good long while without anything ever happening, up until the Siege of Lichun Court chapter, easily the worst possible time for one of the seven to get pregnant considering ''he hasn't formally won them all over at the time.'' Naturally, that's what happens.

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* LawOfInverseFertiliy: Invoked - Wei Xiaobao ends up dragged into an affair with Princess Jianning for a good long while without anything ever happening, up until the Siege of Lichun Court chapter, easily the worst possible time for one of the seven to get pregnant considering ''he hasn't formally won them all over at the time.'' Naturally, that's what happens.Also worth noting at this point is that Wei has gone from being poisoned by Hai Dafu to being hit by Mao Dongzhu's Dragon Sect martial arts, to being extra-poisoned by Chief Hong, making it a miracle that he can have children at all!
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* LawOfInverseFertiliy: Invoked - Wei Xiaobao ends up dragged into an affair with Princess Jianning for a good long while without anything ever happening, up until the Siege of Lichun Court chapter, easily the worst possible time for one of the seven to get pregnant considering ''he hasn't formally won them all over at the time.'' Naturally, that's what happens.
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* BittersweetEnding: As one of the fictional characters, [[spoiler:Wei's final fate is to disappear into history - he ends up losing the bulk of his fortune, and he can never see his friend the Emperor again, but as the unseen proprietor of ''a chain of brothels'', it's just as cushy as he needs it to be.]]


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** During the final chapter, [[spoiler:the entire "armoury" itself gets this treatment, when Wei is forced to give up the location of the Manchurian treasure, and ends up leading them to a fake location that's been filled with ''all of his own riches.'']]
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* GenreSavvy: Wei's supposed street smarts is really the culmination of everything he's learned about the history of China. Mind you, [[NeverLearnedToRead all of it was in spoken-word form.]]

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* TimeSkip: The refugee chapter. After Wei and the seven wives find the original uncharted island that was his forward base to hit the Dragon Sect, the story jumps ahead a couple of years to the Emperor's search party catching up to him.



* TookALevelInJerkass: Liu Yizhou tries to sell Wei Xiaobao out when encountering some goonies from the Mystic Dragon Cult, who were seeking the latter, resulting in risking the lives of his lover and companions. Fang Yi decides to leave him afterwards.

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Liu Yizhou tries to sell Wei Xiaobao out when encountering some goonies from the Mystic Dragon Cult, who were seeking the latter, resulting in risking the lives of his lover and companions. Fang Yi decides to leave him afterwards.afterwards.
** At the end of the refugee chapter, the Emperor welcomes Wei back with open arms, having learned of [[spoiler:the death of Chen Jinnan, which should resolve whatever responsibilities Wei had to the Heaven and Earth Sect]], and even awards Wei the titular Duke of Mount Deer rank... and then it's revealed that [[spoiler:the promotion is for the merit of ''killing Chen Jinnan'', [[FrameUp which the Emperor made sure to make public]].]] That lovely mansion he built to house all seven wives? [[spoiler:They're functionally his hostages now.]]
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* DistractedByTheSexy: One of Wei's "treasures" acquired on his trips is apparently Japanese ''shunga'' art, which he uses on Qing officers [[spoiler:while he substitutes the captive Chen Jinnan, moments before his execution, for living loose end Feng Xifan.]]

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* DistractedByTheSexy: One of Wei's "treasures" acquired on his trips is apparently Japanese ''shunga'' art, which he uses on Qing officers [[spoiler:while he substitutes the captive Chen Jinnan, Mao Shiba, moments before his execution, for living loose end Feng Xifan.]]

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* TheMole: Wei Xiaobao has gotten out of one scrape after another by claiming to be one for whichever is convenient at the time. He ends up holding ''several'' official titles; but it's a lot less funny considering the number of ''actual'' moles out there. [[spoiler:One is eventually responsible for the death of Chen Jinnan.]]

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* MentorOccupationalHazard: Subverted as [[spoiler:Chen Jinnan]] never really found the time to give Wei formal lessons, but dies anyway. The One-Armed Nun, on the other hand ([[IncrediblyLamePun ugh, sorry]]) is responsible for the only martial arts lesson Wei fully sat through, [[ForegoneConclusion but her eventual fate is to disappear into history.]]
* TheMole: Wei Xiaobao has gotten out of one scrape after another by claiming to be one for whichever is convenient at the time. He ends up holding ''several'' official titles; but it's a lot less funny considering the number of ''actual'' moles out there. [[spoiler:One is eventually responsible for outing Wei to the death of Chen Jinnan.Emperor, starting the refugee chapter.]]

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* DentedIron: [[spoiler:Chief Hong of the Dragon Sect]] is well past his heyday, and still takes the combined betrayal of all his surviving cult members ''and'' Wei's usual dirty tricks to bring down.



* OneManArmy: Any of the boss-level martial artists can claim this. Ao Bai in particular can back up the 'army' part, having been in an actual war.



* UndyingLoyalty: Shuang-Er to Wei Xiaobao. No contest.

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Shuang-Er to Wei Xiaobao. No contest.contest.
** Quite a few Qing officers that made friends with Wei end up letting him flee after he's outed as part of the Heaven and Earth Sect, at massive risk to their own lives.
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* BadassFamily: The Gui family look like an elderly couple stuck taking care of a mentally impaired son who's above 40 at least, but their combined strength could beat a small army. Unfortunately, they're bad guys.

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* BadassFamily: The Gui family look like an elderly couple stuck taking care of a mentally impaired son who's above 40 at least, but their combined strength could beat a small army. Unfortunately, they're bad guys.[[spoiler:they're the ones who killed Wu Liuqi due to a FrameUp]].



** Zheng Keshuang has Feng Xifan, a boss-level martial artist so dangerous you have to wonder why Zheng isn't a more dangerous individual under his tutelage.

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** Zheng Keshuang has Feng Xifan, a boss-level martial artist so dangerous you have to wonder why Zheng isn't a more dangerous individual under his tutelage. It's all part of the Zheng matriarch's plan to keep him, the functional heir to the throne they're after, out of danger.
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* BadassFamily: The Gui family look like an elderly couple stuck taking care of a mentally impaired son who's above 40 at least, but their combined strength could beat a small army. Unfortunately, they're bad guys.


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* StuffedInTheFridge:
** Wei makes friends with Yang Yizhi, the TokenGoodTeammate in Wu Sangui's camp - it's not till Princess Jianning's bethrothal in Yunnan that Wei finds out that [[spoiler:Yang has been being tortured to death by Wu Sangui over it for a long time.]]
** Wei is in the middle of dragging Wu Zhirong to his comeuppance when they're stuck with dealing with the Gui family, and Wei decides to drug all of them and sort things out later. [[spoiler:It's not until he goes through their stuff that he learns they were carrying the head of Wu Liuqi the whole time.]]

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* FrameUp: A corrupt official sets up the head of the Zhuang estate for possessing artifacts from the fallen Ming dynasty, and has the entire family and any followers and servants imprisoned, ''just after'' [[HopeSpot Shuang-Er became one of their maids]].

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* FrameUp: A corrupt Corrupt official Wu Zhirong sets up the head of the Zhuang estate for possessing artifacts from the fallen Ming dynasty, and has the entire family and any followers and servants imprisoned, ''just after'' [[HopeSpot Shuang-Er became one of their maids]].


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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Corrupt official Wu Zhirong has been claiming familial relations to one Wu Sangui (note the identical surnames) well before he set up the Zhuang estate for colluding with Ming loyalists, and executing all their menfolk - making it pretty easy for Wei to set him up for treason, [[DoWithHimAsYouWill then literally stringing him up to present to the surviving Zhuang womenfolk.]]
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* AcheivementsInIgnorance: When a bunch of Yunnan officers visit the capital on the pretext of seeing Wu Yingxiong, Wei's newly minted cavalry officer gets into a dispute with them over the performance of their purebred horses against the royal cavalry's own, and Wei proposes to settle it with a horse race (nearly inventing a new high-stakes game in the process)... then gets cold feet and tries to fix the race by bribing a groom into feeding the Yunnan horses something he probably shouldn't. Turns out the race was a lie and Wei inadvertently thwarted Wu Yingxiong's ''escape attempt'', tracking him down by following the trail of horse diahrrea.

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* AcheivementsInIgnorance: AchievementsInIgnorance: When a bunch of Yunnan officers visit the capital on the pretext of seeing Wu Yingxiong, Wei's newly minted cavalry officer gets into a dispute with them over the performance of their purebred horses against the royal cavalry's own, and Wei proposes to settle it with a horse race (nearly inventing a new high-stakes game in the process)... then gets cold feet and tries to fix the race by bribing a groom into feeding the Yunnan horses something he probably shouldn't. Turns out the race was a lie and Wei inadvertently thwarted Wu Yingxiong's ''escape attempt'', tracking him down by following the trail of horse diahrrea.
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* AcheivementsInIgnorance: When a bunch of Yunnan officers visit the capital on the pretext of seeing Wu Yingxiong, Wei's newly minted cavalry officer gets into a dispute with them over the performance of their purebred horses against the royal cavalry's own, and Wei proposes to settle it with a horse race (nearly inventing a new high-stakes game in the process)... then gets cold feet and tries to fix the race by bribing a groom into feeding the Yunnan horses something he probably shouldn't. Turns out the race was a lie and Wei inadvertently thwarted Wu Yingxiong's ''escape attempt'', tracking him down by following the trail of horse diahrrea.


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* SecretTestOfCharacter: Wei needs a genuinely competent military officer on his side when the Qing empire resorts to power plays, and summons a bunch of officers for no apparent reason, picking out the only one with the backbone to stand up to him... [[SubvertedTrope Except it's all a massive excuse]], as Wei had met the guy once but only remembered him having a BadassBeard, and summoned every bearded officer in the offchance he could still identify the bugger.
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* TogetherInDeath: The final fate of [[spoiler:Li Zhicheng and Chen Yuanyuan.]]
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* AwesomenessByAnalysis: One of Wei's new friends is Shaolin abbot Chengguan, trained in identifying and figuring out counterattacks to every known martial arts style. He's the first one to work out that A-Ke was trained in several incomplete styles to mask her origins (as Jiunan's disciple). Trying to figure out something he could teach [[BookDumb Wei Xiaobao]] nearly gives him an aneurysm though.

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* AwesomenessByAnalysis: One of Wei's new friends is Shaolin abbot Chengguan, ordained as one of the Four Great Iron Monks (which would make him a martial arts authority ''within THE martial arts authority'') trained in identifying and figuring out counterattacks to every known martial arts style. He's the first one to work out that A-Ke was trained in several incomplete styles to mask her origins (as Jiunan's disciple). Trying to figure out something he could teach [[BookDumb Wei Xiaobao]] nearly gives him an aneurysm though.



** In order to suck up to Chen YuanYuan [[spoiler:since his real target is her daughter A-Ke's hand]], Wei Xiaobao starts pointing out all the times in history when the downfall of civilizations were wrongfully attributed to famous women. Then he has to eat his words really fast with TheReveal that a woman[[spoiler:, the One-Armed Nun]] is responsible for setting up A-Ke to kill [[spoiler:her own father]].

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** In order to suck up to Chen YuanYuan Yuanyuan [[spoiler:since his real target is her daughter A-Ke's hand]], Wei Xiaobao starts pointing out all the times in history when the downfall of civilizations were wrongfully attributed to famous women. Then he has to eat his words really fast with TheReveal that a woman[[spoiler:, the One-Armed Nun]] is responsible for setting up A-Ke to kill [[spoiler:her own father]].
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* RewardedAsATraitorDeserves: Liu Yizhou makes another attempt at taking down Wei Xiaobao, this time by allying with Wu Sangui against the entire Mu estate. Considering Wu Sangui's personal and relevant experience in the matter, all it takes is for Wei to out Liu as ''having sold out his people before'' to turn the tables.

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* DramaticIrony: Shuang-Er's faithfulness to Wei Xiaobao has led to several of his new friends asking her if she has any more like her at home. She's actually a war orphan, so the answer is a very pointed no.

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Shuang-Er's faithfulness to Wei Xiaobao has led to several of his new friends asking her if she has any more like her at home. She's actually a war orphan, so the answer is a very pointed no.no.
** In order to suck up to Chen YuanYuan [[spoiler:since his real target is her daughter A-Ke's hand]], Wei Xiaobao starts pointing out all the times in history when the downfall of civilizations were wrongfully attributed to famous women. Then he has to eat his words really fast with TheReveal that a woman[[spoiler:, the One-Armed Nun]] is responsible for setting up A-Ke to kill [[spoiler:her own father]].
-->'''Wei''': ''What doom hath women wrought upon history - when they actually start trying!''



** Imperial eunuchs play a huge part in this story, which already says plenty. What this means is that Wei, impersonating a place eunuch half the time, has had to escape this ''at least once'' by the skin of his teeth (and certain other body parts, we're sure).

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** Imperial eunuchs play a huge part in this story, which already says plenty. What this means is that Wei, impersonating a place palace eunuch half the time, has had to escape this ''at least once'' by the skin of his teeth (and certain other body parts, we're sure).


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* IndyPloy: Not surprisingly, Wei has to rely on these on every other occasion.
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* BulletproofVest: One of Ao Bai's treasures, which gets turned over to Wei Xiaobao along with his entire estate, and ''literally'' saves Wei's skin time after time.


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* MundaneUtility: In order to suck up to the One-Armed Nun and win A-Ke's favor, Wei Xiaobao briefly uses the AbsurdlySharpBlade to ''prepare dessert''. Let's hope he cleaned it first...

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* GroinAttack: Wei Xiaobao convinces Princess Jianning to go along with her unwanted betrothal to the son of Wu Sangui, by getting her to set him up for rape on their wedding night. To sell it further, [[spoiler:he passes her one of the two guns gifted to him, which she uses on her new husband the best way she can.]]

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* GroinAttack: GroinAttack:
** Imperial eunuchs play a huge part in this story, which already says plenty. What this means is that Wei, impersonating a place eunuch half the time, has had to escape this ''at least once'' by the skin of his teeth (and certain other body parts, we're sure).
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Wei Xiaobao convinces Princess Jianning to go along with her unwanted betrothal to the son of Wu Sangui, by getting her to set him up for rape on their wedding night. To sell it further, [[spoiler:he passes her one of the two guns gifted to him, which she uses on her new husband the best way she can.]]
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* GambitPileup: Grabbing the 42 chapters is just the one goal that the dozen or so different factions are after at the same time - there's also the death of Wu Sangui, the restoration of the Ming dynasty, as vague as it seems since there's like three estates after said throne, and ultimately control of all China is at stake. Wei Xiaobao is responsible for damage control at an international level (as well as some of the damage considering ''he holds several conflicting positions of power'') as he has to prevent them from even knowing each others' existence, but as the Chinese saying goes, you cannot use paper to wrap a fire...
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* MacGuffin: The 42 Scriptures again. On the surface, they're a geomancy guide to the leylines and other geographical mumbo-jumbo supposedly responsible for the strength and longevity of the Qing Empire, but uniting all the chapters will reveal the location of a much more mundane source of power - ancient buried treasure.

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* MacGuffin: The 42 Scriptures again. On the surface, they're a geomancy guide to the leylines and other geographical mumbo-jumbo supposedly responsible for the strength and longevity of the Qing Empire, but uniting all the chapters ([[spoiler:or rather, the sheepskin map fragments hidden in the covers,]] something Wei figures out ahead of time thanks to the One-Armed Nun) will reveal the location of a much more mundane source of power - ancient buried treasure.
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* LifeOrLimbDecision: Wei Xiaobao figures out that Hai Dafu's corpse-melting powder can remain active for a while, and gets the idea to bait one of the pursuing BareFistedMonk lamas with one of the 42 Scriptures still covered in it. By the time the lama figures it out, his finger bones are already visible, and he has to lop off the whole hand.
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** A secret night meeting reveals that there's quite a few such like-minded groups - the Zheng estate from Taiwan, the Mu estate, the Wangwu group and some smaller ones. Unfortunately they can't work together without snapping at each others' throats.
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* SoBeautifulItsACurse: Chen Yuanyuan in the backstory of ''the Qing empire itself''. That's not an exaggeration - she was a concubine of Wu Sangui, a Ming official who thought he could get her back by allying with the growing Manchurian empire and basically ''selling out China''. [[spoiler:As her child A-Ke later proved, it's practically InTheBlood.]]
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* BareFistedMonk: Any time the legendary Shaolin temple is involved in the storyline, you're going to see these. In this case, the Qing Emperor's authority has summoned their best of the best, designated as the Four Great Iron Monks. Interestingly, an opposing faction of similar martial artists hailing from Tibet (yes, martial arts ''lamas'') join the already growing violent conflict.
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* TookALevelInBadass:
** Shuang Er, under the tutelage of someone implied to be He Tieshou. With so many boss-level martial artists out there, she still rates a 4 out of a scale of 1 to 10, but in the time it took that's plenty.
** Wei Xiaobao's time with the One-Armed Nun apparently taught him to find his courage, or failing that a good workaround - after the One-Armed Nun is incapacitated by a pursuing band of BareFistedMonk lamas, Wei relies on his own quick wits and admittedly cowardly backstabbing, and ''kills off most of them!''

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