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22nd Jul '16 11:07:20 AM Morgenthaler
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* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: Anton Chigurh.
22nd May '16 11:41:06 AM Da1tonTheGreat
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* BigBad: Anton Chigurh.
* BigBadWannabe: The [[CorruptCorporateExecutive middle manager]] of the Matacumbe Petroleum Group. He seems to be the one who arranged to purchase $2.4 million worth of black tar heroin from Pablo Acosta's Juarez Cartel, and is responsible for bringing both Chigurh and Wells into the plot that he kicked off the begin with. It's subtly implied that this may be his first rodeo and that he's in over his head, and the company's initial foray into the drug trade ultimately gets him killed.


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* VillainsNeverLie: Averted. The Juarez Cartel recovers their heroin from the deal gone wrong, but reports it missing to the other party involved.
20th May '16 7:45:37 AM mrnickname
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** Anton Chigurh is a deconstruction of the ImplacableMan and HitmanWithAHeart. He isn't a killer robot from the future, and he can bleed and get hurt, but Anton is still as close to a terminator as you could get in real life. Like a Dostoyevskean character, Anton is completely driven by an idea. In this case, the idea is that every action you take, will ultimately decide your fate. If Anton is hired to kill you, that means that somewhere along the line, you have committed an action that warranted it. [[DisproportionateRetribution If you realized this or not at the time, makes ''NO'' difference,]] and there is ''NO'' amount of begging and pleading that will save you, once you're in Chigurhs sights. Anton simply views himself as fates messenger, [[BreakThemByTalking and calmly and methodically makes sure that you realize how poor your decisions were, before he blows your brains out.]] Compare with UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan and his "i am the flail of god" quote, to see where he is coming from.
The HitmanWithAHeart part, comes from the fact that Chigurh doesn't feel any anger or hatred for his victims. If anything, he might feel pity for the fact that they'd ended up in their current situation, and like in Carla Jeans case, through the fault of others. But that's it. Chigurhs just the deliveryman.

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** Anton Chigurh is a deconstruction of the ImplacableMan and HitmanWithAHeart. He isn't a killer robot from the future, and he can bleed and get hurt, but Anton is still as close to a terminator as you could get in real life. Like a Dostoyevskean character, Anton is completely driven by an idea. In this case, the idea is that every action you take, will ultimately decide your fate. If Anton is hired to kill you, that means that somewhere along the line, you have committed an action that warranted it. [[DisproportionateRetribution If you realized this or not at the time, makes ''NO'' difference,]] and there is ''NO'' amount of begging and pleading that will save you, once you're in Chigurhs sights. Anton simply views himself as fates messenger, [[BreakThemByTalking and calmly and methodically makes sure that you realize how poor your decisions were, before he blows your brains out.]] Compare with UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan and his "i am the flail of god" quote, to see where he is coming from.
from.The HitmanWithAHeart part, comes from the fact that Chigurh doesn't feel any anger or hatred for his victims. If anything, he might feel pity for the fact that they'd ended up in their current situation, and like in Carla Jeans case, through the fault of others. But that's it. Chigurhs just the deliveryman.
20th May '16 7:42:21 AM mrnickname
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The HitmanWithAHeart part, comes from the fact that Chigurh doesn't feel any anger or hatred for his victims. If anything, he might feel pity for the fact that they'd ended up in their current situation, and like in Carla Jeans case, through the fault of others. But that's it. Chigurhs just the deliveryman.
14th May '16 2:06:55 AM shamblingdead2
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* ThatsWhatSheSaid : Amazingly enough. In the book, during the first exchange between Moss and Carla Jean.
--> Keep it up.
--> That's what she said.
14th May '16 2:03:45 AM shamblingdead2
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* FreudianTrio: Moss is the Ego, Chigurh is the Id, Bell the Superego.

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* FreudianTrio: Moss is the Ego, Chigurh is the Id, Id (representing darkness and violence), Bell the Superego.Superego (representing all that is good and rational). Going on the Good vs. Evil, with man in the middle interpretation, that is.
14th May '16 1:59:40 AM shamblingdead2
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* FreudianTrio: Moss is the Ego, Chigurh is the Id, Bell the Superego.
12th May '16 11:58:29 AM mrnickname
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** Anton Chigurh is a deconstruction of the ImplacableMan and HitmanWithAHeart. He isn't a killer robot from the future, and he can bleed and get hurt, but Anton is still as close to a terminator as you could get in real life. Like a Dostoyevskean character, Anton is completely driven by an idea. In this case, the idea is that every action you take, will ultimately decide your fate. If Anton is hired to kill you, that means that somewhere along the line, you have committed an action that warranted it. [[DisproportionateRetribution If you realized this or not at the time, makes ''NO'' difference,]] and there is ''NO'' amount of begging and pleading that will save you, once you're in Chigurhs sights. Anton simply views himself as fates messenger, [[BreakThemByTalking and calmly and methodically makes sure that you realize how poor your decisions were, before he blows your brains out.]] Compare with UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan and his "i am the flail of god" quote, to see where he is coming from.
9th May '16 4:41:20 AM shamblingdead2
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* RuleOfThree: Anton doesn't like getting blood on his boots, which we see three times: the first time in the hotel room when he shoots the Mexicans (while in sock feet). The second time, after [[spoiler: he shoots Welles]] he puts his feet up as he's on the phone with Llewellyn. The third time, he's coming out of Carla Jean's mother's house, proof that [[spoiler: he also killed Carla Jean]].
8th May '16 1:38:30 AM Az_Tech341
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* VillainousBreakdown: An extremely understated and minor one, [[TheStoic given who it is]], but Anton has a small one when [[spoiler:Carla Jean refuses to call his coin toss, thus making her the first person in the film to take a stand in direct and face-to-face defiance of his "principles", and flat out states that his deference to "chance" is a thin excuse for him doing what he does.]] Even moreso in the book, where [[spoiler:he apologizes (plainly, but still does) as she starts to sob, and starts to really having to defend his principles to her in order to go through with killing her.]]
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