History Literature / Nation

27th Apr '18 2:50:37 PM Vox
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* {{Expy}}: First Mate Cox has a lot in common with [[Discworld/NightWatch Carcer Dun.]] Mrs. Gurgle resembles the old steppe-tribal necromancer from ''Discworld/TheLightFantastic''.

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* {{Expy}}: First Mate Cox has a lot in common with [[Discworld/NightWatch Carcer Dun.]] Dun]], being a sadistic AxCrazy psychopath wearing the mask of a [[FauxAffablyEvil cheeky, jovial rascal]]. Mrs. Gurgle resembles the old steppe-tribal necromancer from ''Discworld/TheLightFantastic''.
10th Oct '17 2:12:24 PM Will
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* WhatYouAreInTheDark: Ataba found the Nameless Woman and her baby on a raft while making his way to the Nation. It was a hard enough journey for an old man alone, but there is never any indication that he even considered not bringing them with him to what he thought was safety. When he realises this, Mau becomes a lot less angry with the old man.
23rd Dec '16 11:36:27 AM nighttrainfm
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* GoodCannotComprehendEvil: Daphne has a hard time explaining Cox's behavior to the islanders. They can cope with cannibals, but not someone who shoots people and ''dolphins'' because they're there.

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Daphne has a hard time explaining Cox's behavior to the islanders. They can cope with cannibals, but not someone who shoots people and ''dolphins'' because they're there.there.
** Mau himself worries that if he starts to understand Cox, it'll mean he's ''becoming'' him. He eventually gets over this fear, reasoning that a hunter can understand how prey thinks without becoming an animal.



* HeroicBSOD: Mau goes through a pretty extreme version of this when he's sinking the bodies of his tribe in the ocean. Basically, his body's moving, but [[HappyPlace his mind isn't there any more]]. He doesn't even notice Daphne standing directly in front of him. He only wakes up just before drowning himself.

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* HeroicBSOD: HeroicBSOD:
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Mau goes through a pretty extreme version of this when he's sinking the bodies of his tribe in the ocean. Basically, his body's moving, but [[HappyPlace his mind isn't there any more]]. He doesn't even notice Daphne standing directly in front of him. He only wakes up just before drowning himself.



* HumansAreBastards: Daphne's proof that no Westerners had been in the Islanders cave before her (And thus could not have planted the artifacts she found there) stems from this trope. Specifically, the fact that [[spoiler:there was a door made from eight tons of solid gold in there, and nobody had stolen it.]]

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* HumansAreBastards: Daphne's proof that no Westerners had been in the Islanders cave before her (And (and thus could not have planted the artifacts she found there) stems from this trope. Specifically, the fact that [[spoiler:there was a door made from eight tons of solid gold in there, and nobody had stolen it.]]
24th Jun '16 12:42:49 AM Roo
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* DisneyDeath: [[spoiler: The parrot. Just before the climatic battle with Mau, [[KickTheDog Cox shoots it for annoying him]], and everyone assumes it died. However, it turns up again a few days later, missing a toe and a lot of feathers, but still as lively as ever.]]



** Mau's first conversation with Locaha is reminiscent of [[Literature/WatershipDown Hazel's attempt to bargain with the Black Rabbit of Inle]]. Likewise, his letting the brothers address the Raider chieftains in his stead resembles how Bigwig was mistaken for the Down rabbits' leader, because who would expect a teenager or a lamed buck to be in charge?

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** Mau's first conversation with Locaha is reminiscent of [[Literature/WatershipDown Hazel's El-ahrairah's's attempt to bargain with the Black Rabbit of Inle]]. Likewise, his letting the brothers address the Raider chieftains in his stead resembles how Bigwig was mistaken for the Down rabbits' leader, because who would expect a teenager or a lamed buck to be in charge?
18th Mar '16 4:54:48 AM sabremeister
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** Milo and Peelu serve as two for Mau when Atauba tries to destroy the fourth godstone and Mau saves the old man from drowning and sharks. Milo points out the flaws in Atauba's arguments and how Mau risked his life and is on the brink of death. Peelu's declaration that Mau "wet himself" showed that he was an ordinary man who felt fear but nevertheless faced the shark.

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** Milo and Peelu Pilu serve as two for Mau when Atauba Ataba tries to destroy the fourth godstone and Mau saves the old man from drowning and sharks. Milo points out the flaws in Atauba's Ataba's arguments and how Mau risked his life and is on the brink of death. Peelu's declaration that Mau "wet himself" showed that he was an ordinary man who felt fear but nevertheless faced the shark.



** Lampshaded when priest Atauba points out that Mau ''needs'' the gods to exist [[NayTheist just enough so that he can be angry with them for not existing]].

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** Lampshaded when priest Atauba Ataba points out that Mau ''needs'' the gods to exist [[NayTheist just enough so that he can be angry with them for not existing]].



** Atauba, a priest, who believes that since Mau doesn't have a soul he must have a demon, especially when Mau claims he doesn't believe in the gods. Slowly becomes a JerkassWoobie as the story goes on, culminating in [[spoiler: his death]].

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** Atauba, Ataba, a priest, who believes that since Mau doesn't have a soul he must have a demon, especially when Mau claims he doesn't believe in the gods. Slowly becomes a JerkassWoobie as the story goes on, culminating in [[spoiler: his death]].



* LetThemDieHappy: Mau inadvertently allows this for [[spoiler: Atauba]] after they open the Grandfathers' Cave; because [[spoiler: Atauba]] saw the stone statues of the gods, his faith is restored [[spoiler: right before Foxlip kills him]].

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* LetThemDieHappy: Mau inadvertently allows this for [[spoiler: Atauba]] Ataba]] after they open the Grandfathers' Cave; because [[spoiler: Atauba]] Ataba]] saw the stone statues of the gods, his faith is restored [[spoiler: right before Foxlip kills him]].



** Foxlip shoots [[spoiler: Atauba]] for shaking a stick at him. [[spoiler: Daphne]] makes Foxlip pay with a BatmanGambit. Of course, [[spoiler: Daphne]] wonders if she has crossed the horizon and asks the Nation to judge her.

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** Foxlip shoots [[spoiler: Atauba]] Ataba]] for shaking a stick at him. [[spoiler: Daphne]] makes Foxlip pay with a BatmanGambit. Of course, [[spoiler: Daphne]] wonders if she has crossed the horizon and asks the Nation to judge her.
15th Dec '15 12:04:10 PM Sharlee
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** Mau's first conversation with Locaha is reminiscent of [[Literature/WatershipDown Hazel's attempt to bargain with the Black Rabbit of Inle]].

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** Mau's first conversation with Locaha is reminiscent of [[Literature/WatershipDown Hazel's attempt to bargain with the Black Rabbit of Inle]]. Likewise, his letting the brothers address the Raider chieftains in his stead resembles how Bigwig was mistaken for the Down rabbits' leader, because who would expect a teenager or a lamed buck to be in charge?
15th Dec '15 11:58:29 AM Sharlee
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* {{Expy}}: First Mate Cox has a lot in common with [[Discworld/NightWatch Carcer Dun.]]

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* {{Expy}}: First Mate Cox has a lot in common with [[Discworld/NightWatch Carcer Dun.]]]] Mrs. Gurgle resembles the old steppe-tribal necromancer from ''Discworld/TheLightFantastic''.
15th Dec '15 11:56:51 AM Sharlee
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* FarSideIsland: Referenced.

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* FarSideIsland: Referenced.Referenced, and justified in a footnote: there's a species of palm that poisons the nearby soil to keep competitors from shading it.
30th Nov '15 10:04:56 AM FF32
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** It's established in ''Discworld/TheScienceOfDiscworld III'' that in the Pratchett Multiverse RichardDawkins is ''always'' a Darwinian biologist, whatever happens to history.

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** It's established in ''Discworld/TheScienceOfDiscworld III'' that in the Pratchett Multiverse RichardDawkins UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins is ''always'' a Darwinian biologist, whatever happens to history.
8th Nov '15 8:43:42 PM nombretomado
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* ShoutOut: To ''Literature/MobyDick''. The DistantFinale also mentions various modern scientists visiting the island and doing pretty much what they've done in our world; RichardFeynman playing drums, Dawkins being harassed by an intelligent tool-using animal, Creator/CarlSagan filming for ''Series/CosmosAPersonalVoyage''...

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* ShoutOut: To ''Literature/MobyDick''. The DistantFinale also mentions various modern scientists visiting the island and doing pretty much what they've done in our world; RichardFeynman UsefulNotes/RichardFeynman playing drums, Dawkins being harassed by an intelligent tool-using animal, Creator/CarlSagan filming for ''Series/CosmosAPersonalVoyage''...
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