History Literature / Nation

24th Jun '16 12:42:49 AM Roo
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* DisneyDeath: [[spoiler: The parrot. Just before the climatic battle with Mau, [[KickTheDog Cox shoots it for annoying him]], and everyone assumes it died. However, it turns up again a few days later, missing a toe and a lot of feathers, but still as lively as ever.]]



** Mau's first conversation with Locaha is reminiscent of [[Literature/WatershipDown Hazel's attempt to bargain with the Black Rabbit of Inle]]. Likewise, his letting the brothers address the Raider chieftains in his stead resembles how Bigwig was mistaken for the Down rabbits' leader, because who would expect a teenager or a lamed buck to be in charge?

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** Mau's first conversation with Locaha is reminiscent of [[Literature/WatershipDown Hazel's El-ahrairah's's attempt to bargain with the Black Rabbit of Inle]]. Likewise, his letting the brothers address the Raider chieftains in his stead resembles how Bigwig was mistaken for the Down rabbits' leader, because who would expect a teenager or a lamed buck to be in charge?
18th Mar '16 4:54:48 AM sabremeister
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** Milo and Peelu serve as two for Mau when Atauba tries to destroy the fourth godstone and Mau saves the old man from drowning and sharks. Milo points out the flaws in Atauba's arguments and how Mau risked his life and is on the brink of death. Peelu's declaration that Mau "wet himself" showed that he was an ordinary man who felt fear but nevertheless faced the shark.

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** Milo and Peelu Pilu serve as two for Mau when Atauba Ataba tries to destroy the fourth godstone and Mau saves the old man from drowning and sharks. Milo points out the flaws in Atauba's Ataba's arguments and how Mau risked his life and is on the brink of death. Peelu's declaration that Mau "wet himself" showed that he was an ordinary man who felt fear but nevertheless faced the shark.



** Lampshaded when priest Atauba points out that Mau ''needs'' the gods to exist [[NayTheist just enough so that he can be angry with them for not existing]].

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** Lampshaded when priest Atauba Ataba points out that Mau ''needs'' the gods to exist [[NayTheist just enough so that he can be angry with them for not existing]].



** Atauba, a priest, who believes that since Mau doesn't have a soul he must have a demon, especially when Mau claims he doesn't believe in the gods. Slowly becomes a JerkassWoobie as the story goes on, culminating in [[spoiler: his death]].

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** Atauba, Ataba, a priest, who believes that since Mau doesn't have a soul he must have a demon, especially when Mau claims he doesn't believe in the gods. Slowly becomes a JerkassWoobie as the story goes on, culminating in [[spoiler: his death]].



* LetThemDieHappy: Mau inadvertently allows this for [[spoiler: Atauba]] after they open the Grandfathers' Cave; because [[spoiler: Atauba]] saw the stone statues of the gods, his faith is restored [[spoiler: right before Foxlip kills him]].

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* LetThemDieHappy: Mau inadvertently allows this for [[spoiler: Atauba]] Ataba]] after they open the Grandfathers' Cave; because [[spoiler: Atauba]] Ataba]] saw the stone statues of the gods, his faith is restored [[spoiler: right before Foxlip kills him]].



** Foxlip shoots [[spoiler: Atauba]] for shaking a stick at him. [[spoiler: Daphne]] makes Foxlip pay with a BatmanGambit. Of course, [[spoiler: Daphne]] wonders if she has crossed the horizon and asks the Nation to judge her.

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** Foxlip shoots [[spoiler: Atauba]] Ataba]] for shaking a stick at him. [[spoiler: Daphne]] makes Foxlip pay with a BatmanGambit. Of course, [[spoiler: Daphne]] wonders if she has crossed the horizon and asks the Nation to judge her.
15th Dec '15 12:04:10 PM Sharlee
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** Mau's first conversation with Locaha is reminiscent of [[Literature/WatershipDown Hazel's attempt to bargain with the Black Rabbit of Inle]].

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** Mau's first conversation with Locaha is reminiscent of [[Literature/WatershipDown Hazel's attempt to bargain with the Black Rabbit of Inle]]. Likewise, his letting the brothers address the Raider chieftains in his stead resembles how Bigwig was mistaken for the Down rabbits' leader, because who would expect a teenager or a lamed buck to be in charge?
15th Dec '15 11:58:29 AM Sharlee
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* {{Expy}}: First Mate Cox has a lot in common with [[Discworld/NightWatch Carcer Dun.]]

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* {{Expy}}: First Mate Cox has a lot in common with [[Discworld/NightWatch Carcer Dun.]]]] Mrs. Gurgle resembles the old steppe-tribal necromancer from ''Discworld/TheLightFantastic''.
15th Dec '15 11:56:51 AM Sharlee
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* FarSideIsland: Referenced.

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* FarSideIsland: Referenced.Referenced, and justified in a footnote: there's a species of palm that poisons the nearby soil to keep competitors from shading it.
30th Nov '15 10:04:56 AM FF32
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** It's established in ''Discworld/TheScienceOfDiscworld III'' that in the Pratchett Multiverse RichardDawkins is ''always'' a Darwinian biologist, whatever happens to history.

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** It's established in ''Discworld/TheScienceOfDiscworld III'' that in the Pratchett Multiverse RichardDawkins UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins is ''always'' a Darwinian biologist, whatever happens to history.
8th Nov '15 8:43:42 PM nombretomado
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* ShoutOut: To ''Literature/MobyDick''. The DistantFinale also mentions various modern scientists visiting the island and doing pretty much what they've done in our world; RichardFeynman playing drums, Dawkins being harassed by an intelligent tool-using animal, Creator/CarlSagan filming for ''Series/CosmosAPersonalVoyage''...

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* ShoutOut: To ''Literature/MobyDick''. The DistantFinale also mentions various modern scientists visiting the island and doing pretty much what they've done in our world; RichardFeynman UsefulNotes/RichardFeynman playing drums, Dawkins being harassed by an intelligent tool-using animal, Creator/CarlSagan filming for ''Series/CosmosAPersonalVoyage''...
24th Oct '15 3:38:57 PM Vismutti
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** French history is revealed to be different too: according to Mr Black the last thing the French government want to see is a Frenchman on any throne, anywhere, but in the real world there was indeed a Frenchman on the French throne at the time: Napoleon III on the <i>imperial</i> throne of France. Also Captain Samson notes that the French killed the last king they had, which is not true in our world since there were in fact three more kings after the Great French Revolution, [[note]](Louis XVIII, Charles X and Louis-Philippe I)[[/note]] none of whom were killed. [[note]](No comment on Louis XVII since technically both his actual kingship and his fate are somewhat controversial.)[[/note]]

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** French history is revealed to be different too: according to Mr Black the last thing the French government want to see is a Frenchman on any throne, anywhere, but in the real world there was indeed a Frenchman on the French throne at the time: Napoleon III on the <i>imperial</i> ''imperial'' throne of France. Also Captain Samson notes that the French killed the last king they had, which is not true in our world since there were in fact three more kings after the Great French Revolution, [[note]](Louis XVIII, Charles X and Louis-Philippe I)[[/note]] none of whom were killed. [[note]](No comment on Louis XVII since technically both his actual kingship and his fate are somewhat controversial.)[[/note]]
24th Oct '15 3:37:40 PM Vismutti
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** French history is revealed to be different too: according to Mr Black the last thing the French government want to see is a Frenchman on any throne, anywhere, but in the real world there was indeed a Frenchman on the French throne at the time: Napoleon III on the <i>imperial</i> throne of France. Also Captain Samson notes that the French killed the last king they had, which is not true in our world since there were in fact three more kings after the Great French Revolution, (Louis XVIII, Charles X and Louis-Philippe I) none of whom were killed. (No comment on Louis XVII since technically both his actual kingship and his fate are somewhat controversial.)

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** French history is revealed to be different too: according to Mr Black the last thing the French government want to see is a Frenchman on any throne, anywhere, but in the real world there was indeed a Frenchman on the French throne at the time: Napoleon III on the <i>imperial</i> throne of France. Also Captain Samson notes that the French killed the last king they had, which is not true in our world since there were in fact three more kings after the Great French Revolution, (Louis [[note]](Louis XVIII, Charles X and Louis-Philippe I) I)[[/note]] none of whom were killed. (No [[note]](No comment on Louis XVII since technically both his actual kingship and his fate are somewhat controversial.))[[/note]]
24th Oct '15 3:35:42 PM Vismutti
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** French history is revealed to be different too: according to Mr Black the last thing the French government want to see is a Frenchman on any throne, anywhere, but in the real world there was indeed a Frenchman on the French throne at the time: Napoleon III on the <i>imperial</i> throne of France. Also Captain Samson notes that the French killed the last king they had, which is not true in our world since there were in fact three more kings after the Great French Revolution, (Louis XVIII, Charles X and Louis-Philippe I) none of whom were killed. (No comment on Louis XVII since technically both his actual kingship and his fate are somewhat controversial.)
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