History Literature / MysticRiver

31st Aug '17 10:45:21 PM foxley
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* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: the film plays with the idea that Dave killed Jimmy's daughter because of the four days he spent with the predators as a child broke him.
** Dave himself is fixated on the idea that he is becoming a monster ( he uses the metaphor of becoming a werewolf or a vampire, with the implication being that he's scared of becoming a paedophile or a murderer). At the end of the film, it is revealed that [[spoiler: he killed a child molester the night of Jimmy's daughter's death, and had been clumsily trying to communicate this information to his wife]].

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* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: the The film plays with the idea that Dave killed Jimmy's daughter because of the four days he spent with the predators as a child broke him.
** Dave himself is fixated on the idea that he is becoming a monster ( he (he uses the metaphor of becoming a werewolf or a vampire, with the implication being that he's scared of becoming a paedophile or a murderer). At the end of the film, it is revealed that [[spoiler: he killed a child molester the night of Jimmy's daughter's death, and had been clumsily trying to communicate this information to his wife]].



* BirthDeathJuxtaposition: Jimmy's oldest daughter is murdered the day of his youngest daughter's first Communion

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* BirthDeathJuxtaposition: Jimmy's oldest daughter is murdered the day of his youngest daughter's first CommunionCommunion.



* Nakama : Sean, Jimmy and Dave were extremely close as children, right up until Dave's abduction.

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* Nakama : {{Nakama}}: Sean, Jimmy and Dave were extremely close as children, right up until Dave's abduction.
12th Apr '17 7:01:02 PM DrOO7
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* BirthDeathJuxtaposition: Jimmy's oldest daughter is murdered the day of his youngest daughter's first Communion
7th Apr '17 10:21:09 PM CosmicFerret
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A 2001 novel by Creator/DennisLehane, ''Mystic River'' was brought to the screen in 2003 by director Creator/ClintEastwood. The film version starred Creator/SeanPenn and Tim Robbins, who both won Oscars for their roles, and Creator/KevinBacon and Creator/LaurenceFishburne.

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A 2001 novel by Creator/DennisLehane, ''Mystic River'' was brought to the screen in 2003 by director Creator/ClintEastwood. The film version starred Creator/SeanPenn and Tim Robbins, Creator/TimRobbins, who both won Oscars for their roles, and Creator/KevinBacon and Creator/LaurenceFishburne.
1st Mar '17 9:10:24 PM nombretomado
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A 2001 novel by Creator/DennisLehane, ''Mystic River'' was brought to the screen in 2003 by director Creator/ClintEastwood. The film version starred Creator/SeanPenn and Tim Robbins, who both won Oscars for their roles, and KevinBacon and Creator/LaurenceFishburne.

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A 2001 novel by Creator/DennisLehane, ''Mystic River'' was brought to the screen in 2003 by director Creator/ClintEastwood. The film version starred Creator/SeanPenn and Tim Robbins, who both won Oscars for their roles, and KevinBacon Creator/KevinBacon and Creator/LaurenceFishburne.



* HeterosexualLifePartners: Sean and Whitey. Creator/LaurenceFishburne even said in an interview "This is a film about three men and their wives - I play KevinBacon's wife."

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* HeterosexualLifePartners: Sean and Whitey. Creator/LaurenceFishburne even said in an interview "This is a film about three men and their wives - I play KevinBacon's Creator/KevinBacon's wife."
13th Feb '17 8:25:50 PM MeepieV
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* BeleaguredChildhoodFriend: Jimmy is this to Sean.

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* BeleaguredChildhoodFriend: Jimmy BeleagueredChildhoodFriend: Dave is this to Sean.
13th Feb '17 8:22:14 PM MeepieV
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*BeleaguredChildhoodFriend: Jimmy is this to Sean.



* Nakama : Sean, Jimmy and Dave were extremely close as children, right up until Dave's abduction.
*OldFriend: Sean has not seen Jimmy or Dave for a long time, but there's obviously still a close emotional connection between the three characters.



** Jimmy comments later in the film that they are all still locked in the car, and Sean and Jimmy reflect on what would have happened if they'd gotten in the car.

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** Jimmy comments later in the film that (he feels like) they are all still locked in the car, and Sean and Jimmy reflect on what would have happened if they'd gotten in the car.car.
** Sean is very protective of Dave early in the film, which is implied to be due to his sense of survivor guilt.


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** UsedToBeASweetKid: None of the main characters are evil, per se, but there's a marked contrast between the sweet, trusting eight-year-olds you see at the beginning of the film and the hardened, dysfunctional adults they grow into, particularly the clearly troubled Dave and the crime boss Jimmy.
13th Feb '17 8:02:36 PM MeepieV
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** There's also Dave, who clearly wants/needs to cry in certain scenes (particularly the scene where he accuses his wife of thinking he was the murderer), but displays blunted emotions and so comes across as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]]. Its also an example of ShownTheirWork, because people with trauma issues often can't cry even when they want to, and will also tend to dissociate or become [[TheEmotionlessGirl alexithymic]] in the presence of a stressor.

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** There's also Dave, who clearly wants/needs to cry in certain scenes (particularly the scene where he accuses his wife of thinking he was the murderer), but displays blunted emotions and so comes across as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]]. Its also an example of ShownTheirWork, because people with trauma issues often can't cry even when they want to, and will also tend to dissociate or become [[TheEmotionlessGirl alexithymic]] alexithymic in the presence of a stressor.stressor, which can seem creepy to people who aren't familiar with how trauma works.
13th Feb '17 7:57:44 PM MeepieV
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* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: the film suggests that Dave killed Jimmy's daughter because of the four days in the hut.
** Dave himself is fixated on the idea that he is becoming a monster ( he uses the metaphor of becoming a werewolf or a vampire, with the implication being that he's scared of becoming a paedophile or a murderer). At the end of the film, it is revealed that [[spoiler: he killed a child molester the night of Jimmy's daughter's death, and was trying to communicate this information to his wife]].

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* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: the film suggests plays with the idea that Dave killed Jimmy's daughter because of the four days in he spent with the hut.predators as a child broke him.
** Dave himself is fixated on the idea that he is becoming a monster ( he uses the metaphor of becoming a werewolf or a vampire, with the implication being that he's scared of becoming a paedophile or a murderer). At the end of the film, it is revealed that [[spoiler: he killed a child molester the night of Jimmy's daughter's death, and was had been clumsily trying to communicate this information to his wife]].



*DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: When Jimmy's two hired thugs take Dave to the bar, he sits in the back seat, staring out of the back window. It's an almost shot-for-shot of the earlier scene, where Dave is abducted by the child predators. The implication is that Dave cannot escape the trauma of his past.



* ThereAreNoTherapists: Given that the police and child services knew what happened to Dave, he must have spent a lot of time in therapy as a child. Given this, it's surprising how he was never taught any coping skills and can't articulate what is happening to him more clearly.

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* ThereAreNoTherapists: Given that the police and child services knew what happened to Dave, he must would almost certainly have spent a lot of time in therapy as a child. Given this, it's surprising how he was never taught doesn't seem familiar with any post-trauma coping skills and can't articulate what is happening to him more clearly.



** Subverted and justified throughout the film, really. Dave acts in bizarre and suspicious ways throughout the film, with the implication being that his trauma issues have been made worse by the events of the night of the murder, and because the intense shame and isolation he feels as a former victim of child abuse means that he can't communicate what really happened in a way other people understand.

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** Subverted and justified throughout the film, really. Dave continuously acts in bizarre and suspicious ways throughout the film, ways, with the implication being that his trauma issues have been made worse by the events of on the night of the murder, murder made his pre-existing trauma issues worse, and because also that the intense shame and isolation he feels as a former victim of child abuse means that he can't struggles to communicate what really happened in a way other people understand.with others or take care of his emotional needs.



** There's also Dave, who clearly wants/needs to cry in certain scenes (particularly the scene where he accuses his wife of thinking he was the murderer, and talks about being a vampire), but has blunted emotions due to trauma and so comes across as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]].

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** There's also Dave, who clearly wants/needs to cry in certain scenes (particularly the scene where he accuses his wife of thinking he was the murderer, and talks about being a vampire), murderer), but has displays blunted emotions due to trauma and so comes across as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]]. Its also an example of ShownTheirWork, because people with trauma issues often can't cry even when they want to, and will also tend to dissociate or become [[TheEmotionlessGirl alexithymic]] in the presence of a stressor.
13th Feb '17 7:36:10 PM hello86
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* AdaptationNameChange: One of the protagonist's surnames is changed from "Marcus" in the book to "Markum" in the film.

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* AdaptationNameChange: One of the protagonist's surnames Jimmy's surname is changed from "Marcus" in the book to "Markum" in the film.
13th Feb '17 7:35:12 PM hello86
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* DarkAndTroublePast: The storyline hinges on one of the main characters being abducted as a child, and how this event impacted their adult lives.

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* DarkAndTroublePast: DarkAndTroubledPast: The storyline hinges on one of the main characters being abducted as a child, and how this event impacted their adult lives.
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