History Literature / MurderOnTheOrientExpress

11th Jul '17 12:00:01 PM fgenzo159
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* Another one again as a MadeForTVMovie in 2001.

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* Another one again one, as a MadeForTVMovie MadeForTVMovie, in 2001.



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11th Jul '17 11:51:05 AM fgenzo159
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A [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptation]] was made [[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress1974 in 1974]], directed by Creator/SidneyLumet and featuring an AllStarCast. It was adapted again as a MadeForTVMovie in 2001, and once more in 2010 for ''Series/{{Poirot}}''. [[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress2017 A new film adaption]] directed and starring Sir Creator/KennethBranagh is currently scheduled for a 2017 release by Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox.

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A [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptation]] was made The Films of the Book]]:
* A
[[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress1974 film adaptation]] was made in 1974]], 1974, directed by Creator/SidneyLumet and featuring an AllStarCast. It was adapted AllStarCast.
* Another one
again as a MadeForTVMovie in 2001, and once more 2001.
* Once more,
in 2010 for ''Series/{{Poirot}}''. ''Series/{{Poirot}}''.
* A
[[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress2017 A new film adaption]] directed and starring Sir Creator/KennethBranagh is currently scheduled for a 2017 release by Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox.
Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox, and also features an AllStarCast.



!!The film adaptations (excluding ITV's ''Series/{{Poirot}}'', which is covered on the series page) additionally provide examples of:

* AdaptedOut: Col. Arbuthnot and Dr. Constantine are merged into Dr. Arbuthnot in the 2017 adaptation.
* AdaptationNameChange: M. Bouc becomes Signor Bianchi in the 1974 movie. In the 2017 movie, Greta Ohlsson becomes Pilar Estravados (hilariously, the name of a character in the 1938 novel ''Hercule Poirot's Christmas''), Foscarelli becomes Biniamino Marquez, and Cyrus Hardman becomes Gerhard. Played with in the case of Col. Arbuthnot, who becomes Dr. Arbuthnot.
* JustTrainWrong: The 2001 version didn't even bother using Wagon-Lits carriages, instead using a train of British Pullman lounge cars. Ironically, one of them, named "Ibis", was used as a dining car on the Simplon-Orient-Express (the Orient Express Poirot travels on) between Paris and Venice for a couple of years in the 20s.
** The 1974 film commits a lesser offence by including a Wagon-Lits Pullman lounge car; one did operate in the Simplon-Orient-Express, but not on this part of the line.
* PrettyInMink: The 1974 film had a few furs, and even the 2001 adaptation had a fur stole at the end.
* RaceLift: In the 2017 film:
** Dr. (not Col.) Arbuthnot is played by a black actor.
** Pierre Michel is played by a Dutch-Tunisian actor.
** The Swedish Greta Ohlsson becomes Spanish or Hispanic.
** The Italian Foscarelli becomes a Cuban.

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!!The 2001 film adaptations (excluding ITV's ''Series/{{Poirot}}'', which is covered on the series page) adaptation additionally provide examples of:

* AdaptedOut: Col. Arbuthnot and Dr. Constantine are merged into Dr. Arbuthnot in the 2017 adaptation.
* AdaptationNameChange: M. Bouc becomes Signor Bianchi in the 1974 movie. In the 2017 movie, Greta Ohlsson becomes Pilar Estravados (hilariously, the name of a character in the 1938 novel ''Hercule Poirot's Christmas''), Foscarelli becomes Biniamino Marquez, and Cyrus Hardman becomes Gerhard. Played with in the case of Col. Arbuthnot, who becomes Dr. Arbuthnot.
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JustTrainWrong: The 2001 This version didn't even bother using Wagon-Lits carriages, instead using a train of British Pullman lounge cars. Ironically, one of them, named "Ibis", was used as a dining car on the Simplon-Orient-Express (the Orient Express Poirot travels on) between Paris and Venice for a couple of years in the 20s.
** The 1974 film commits a lesser offence by including a Wagon-Lits Pullman lounge car; one did operate in the Simplon-Orient-Express, but not on this part of the line.
* PrettyInMink: The 1974 film had a few furs, and even the 2001 This adaptation had a fur stole at the end.
* RaceLift: In the 2017 film:
** Dr. (not Col.) Arbuthnot is played by a black actor.
** Pierre Michel is played by a Dutch-Tunisian actor.
** The Swedish Greta Ohlsson becomes Spanish or Hispanic.
** The Italian Foscarelli becomes a Cuban.
17th Jun '17 4:02:01 AM JakesBrain
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'''Warning: many unmarked spoilers are below as the plot is [[ItWasHisSled well known]].'''

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'''Warning: many ''Many'' unmarked spoilers are below below, as the plot is extremely [[ItWasHisSled well known]].'''



* AdultFear: The first few minutes of the movie - and the motive for Ratchett's murder - are horrifying on their own, but they might be especially hard on parents.

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* AdultFear: The first few minutes of the movie - -- and the motive for Ratchett's murder - -- are horrifying on their own, but they might be especially hard on parents.



* TheBadGuyWins: Zigzagged. It depends on your definitions of "bad guy" and "win".
* BewareTheNiceOnes: [[spoiler: the Armstrong family and household are all very decent, good people who go to great lengths to bring Ratchet to justice.]]
* BittersweetEnding: While the murderers do get off scot-free, that's because even Poirot agrees that Ratchett's crime against the Armstrong family (who they all had connections to) had been paid back justly, with interest.
* BusmansHoliday" What's Poirot doing on his vacation? Investigating a murder.

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* TheBadGuyWins: Zigzagged. It depends depends, to a large degree, on your definitions of "bad guy" and "win".
* BewareTheNiceOnes: [[spoiler: the The Armstrong family and household are all very decent, good people who go to great lengths to bring Ratchet Ratchett to justice.]]
* BittersweetEnding: While the murderers do get off scot-free, that's because even Poirot agrees that Ratchett's crime against the Armstrong family (who they (whom the killers all had connections to) had been paid back justly, with interest.
* BusmansHoliday" BusmansHoliday: What's Poirot doing on his vacation? Investigating a murder.



* ClockDiscrepancy: The broken watch also appears - and Poirot points out that the killer wants him to think that the murder happened at that time.

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* ClockDiscrepancy: The broken watch also appears - -- and Poirot points out that the killer wants him to think that the murder happened at that time.



** The Americans are also referred to as subjects rather than citizens. Of course, it is Poirot and Bouc doing this, and they might not be aware of the distinction or consider it to be important.

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** The Americans are also referred to as subjects rather than citizens. Of course, it is ''is'' Poirot and Bouc doing this, and so it's reasonable to assume they might not be aware of the distinction or consider it to be important.



* EverybodyDidIt: Everyone on the train except the detectives is part of an elaborate conspiracy to execute the victim. The original idea was to provide themselves with an interlocking net of alibis, such that guilt could never settle on any of them and it would be assumed that someone from outside the train did it. If it hadn't been for a ClosedCircle snowdrift cutting of the hypothetical murderer's escape, it might have worked. Moreover, the participation of all the suspects ''is'' a clue in itself: the murder takes place during "dead season" but there are no vacant seats available in the wagon.

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* EverybodyDidIt: Everyone on the train except the detectives is part of an elaborate conspiracy to execute the victim. The original idea was to provide themselves with an interlocking net of alibis, such that guilt could never settle on any one of them and it would be assumed that someone from outside the train did it. If it hadn't been for a ClosedCircle snowdrift cutting of off the hypothetical murderer's escape, it might have worked. Moreover, the participation presence of all the suspects ''is'' is a clue in itself: the murder takes place during a "dead season" but there are no vacant seats available for the railway, and yet ''every'' berth in the wagon.sleeping car is occupied.



* EveryoneIsASuspect: Deconstructed. [[spoiler:Many murder mysteries set up the plot so that every character had a motive; but why would someone be in a situation where everyone in the vicinity has a motive to kill them? If the whole situation is the result of a conspiracy plotted by all the people with a motive to bring the victim among them.]]

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* EveryoneIsASuspect: Deconstructed. [[spoiler:Many murder mysteries set up the plot so that every character had a motive; but why would someone be in a situation where everyone in the vicinity has a motive to kill them? If It makes sense ''if'' the whole situation is the result of a conspiracy plotted by all the people with a motive to bring the victim among them.]]



* GenreSavvy: Poirot notes in the novel, after dusting the crime scene for fingerprints, that he doesn't expect such a search to tell him anything--no criminal would be that stupid, nowadays, what with the overabundance of mysteries where fingerprints are plot points.

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* GenreSavvy: Poirot notes in the novel, after dusting the crime scene for fingerprints, that he doesn't expect such a search to tell him anything--no anything --no criminal would be that stupid, sloppy, nowadays, what with the overabundance of mysteries where fingerprints are plot points.



--> '''Poirot''': "There are too many clu-ues in this room."

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--> '''Poirot''': "There are too many clu-ues clues in this room."



* RedHerring: Literally referred to by Poirot during TheReveal : He points out that the Mafia member and the red kimono were just "red herrings to confuse and deceive him", and even describes the night of the murder as the "night of the red herrings". See OrgyOfEvidence.

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* RedHerring: Literally referred to by Poirot during TheReveal : TheReveal: He points out that the Mafia member and the red kimono were just "red herrings to confuse and deceive him", and even describes the night of the murder as the "night of the red herrings". See OrgyOfEvidence.



** [[spoiler: Though not so much spontaneous, as they intentionally planned their stories so that pretty much everyone had an alibi with someone who would have no reason to lie about it (who would suspect Arbuthnot and [=MacQueen=] to be in it together, or Mrs. Hubbard and Greta, or Foscarelli and Masterman). And the stories ''do'' have flaws, just not immediately obvious ones.]]
* SherlockScan: An odd example - Poirot is somehow able to intuit that a suspect previously worked as a cook thanks to his "nose for fine dining."

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** [[spoiler: Though not so much spontaneous, as they intentionally planned their stories so that pretty much everyone had an alibi with someone who would have no reason to lie about it (who would suspect Arbuthnot and [=MacQueen=] to be in it together, or Mrs. Hubbard and Greta, or -- especially -- Foscarelli and Masterman).Masterman, who pretend to actively ''dislike'' each other to suggest that neither would cover for the other one). And the stories ''do'' have flaws, just not immediately obvious ones.]]
* SherlockScan: An odd example - -- Poirot is somehow able to intuit that a suspect previously worked as a cook thanks to his "nose for fine dining."



* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Not completely unwitting, since Cassetti obviously meant to do great harm by his kidnapping of Daisy, but killing her (and pretending she was still alive to get the ransom money) led to a whole slew of FromBadToWorse occurrences in and around the family--the revelation that Daisy was already dead caused her mother to have a miscarriage and die, her father then killed himself, and the innocent family maid also killed herself when accused of the crime. Generally, the entire family and everyone connected to them had their lives ruined by this one act, and it is this as much as what happened to Daisy herself that motivated the murderers in their quest for justice.

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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Not completely unwitting, since Cassetti obviously meant to do great harm by his kidnapping of Daisy, but killing her (and pretending she was still alive to get the ransom money) led to a whole slew of FromBadToWorse occurrences in and around the family--the family -- the revelation that Daisy was already dead caused her mother to have a miscarriage and die, her father then killed himself, and the innocent family maid also killed herself when accused of the crime. Generally, the entire family and everyone connected to them had their lives ruined by this one act, and it is this as much as what happened to Daisy herself that motivated the murderers in their quest for justice.
17th May '17 8:15:55 AM loracarol
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** [[spoiler: Though not so much spontaneous, as they intentionally planned their stories so that pretty much everyone had an alibi with someone who would have no reason to lie about it (who would suspect Arbuthnot and MacQueen to be in it together, or Mrs. Hubbard and Greta, or Foscarelli and Masterman). And the stories ''do'' have flaws, just not immediately obvious ones.]]

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** [[spoiler: Though not so much spontaneous, as they intentionally planned their stories so that pretty much everyone had an alibi with someone who would have no reason to lie about it (who would suspect Arbuthnot and MacQueen [=MacQueen=] to be in it together, or Mrs. Hubbard and Greta, or Foscarelli and Masterman). And the stories ''do'' have flaws, just not immediately obvious ones.]]
4th May '17 8:44:04 PM danlansdowne
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** The Americans are also referred to as subjects rather than citizens. Of course, it is Poirot and Bouc doing this, and they might not consider the distinction to be important.

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** The Americans are also referred to as subjects rather than citizens. Of course, it is Poirot and Bouc doing this, and they might not consider be aware of the distinction or consider it to be important.
4th May '17 8:25:17 PM danlansdowne
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* CaliforniaDoubling: France in the 1974 adaptation, the UK in the 2001 adaptation, and Malta and Italy in the 2017 adaptations, replacing Yugoslavia (and Turkey in the 2017 adaptation).
4th May '17 8:24:55 PM danlansdowne
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* [[MultinationalTeam Multinational Cast]]: A French train crew, plus a few English, some Americans (one Italian-born), a Swede, a German, a Russian princess, and a Hungarian diplomatic couple, plus a Greek doctor and a Belgian detective. [[spoiler: And every nationality but the last two conspired in the killing.]]

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* [[MultinationalTeam Multinational Cast]]: A French train crew, plus a few English, some Americans (one Italian-born), a Swede, a German, a Russian princess, and a Hungarian diplomatic couple, plus a Greek doctor and a Belgian detective. detective and Wagon-Lits Company director. [[spoiler: And every nationality but the last two three conspired in the killing.]]



* {{Retcon}}: The late Colonel Armstrong's first name is alternately given as Toby, Robert, and John.

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* {{Retcon}}: The late Colonel Armstrong's first name is alternately given as Toby, Robert, and John.John depending on the adaptation.



** [[spoiler: Though not so much spontaneous, as they intentionally planned their stories so that pretty much everyone had an alibi with someone who would have no reason to lie about it (who would suspect Arbuthnot and Macqueen to be in it together, or Mrs. Hubbard and Greta, or Foscarelli and Masterman). And the stories ''do'' have flaws, just not immediately obvious ones. ]]

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** [[spoiler: Though not so much spontaneous, as they intentionally planned their stories so that pretty much everyone had an alibi with someone who would have no reason to lie about it (who would suspect Arbuthnot and Macqueen MacQueen to be in it together, or Mrs. Hubbard and Greta, or Foscarelli and Masterman). And the stories ''do'' have flaws, just not immediately obvious ones. ]]



* GodCreatedCanonForeigner: Played with. The 2017 movie renames [[Spoiler:Greta Ohlsson]] Pilar Estravados - the name of a character in the 1938 novel ''Hercule Poirot's Christmas''.

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* GodCreatedCanonForeigner: Played with. The AdaptedOut: Col. Arbuthnot and Dr. Constantine are merged into Dr. Arbuthnot in the 2017 movie renames [[Spoiler:Greta Ohlsson]] adaptation.
* AdaptationNameChange: M. Bouc becomes Signor Bianchi in the 1974 movie. In the 2017 movie, Greta Ohlsson becomes
Pilar Estravados - (hilariously, the name of a character in the 1938 novel ''Hercule Poirot's Christmas''.Christmas''), Foscarelli becomes Biniamino Marquez, and Cyrus Hardman becomes Gerhard. Played with in the case of Col. Arbuthnot, who becomes Dr. Arbuthnot.
* CaliforniaDoubling: France in the 1974 adaptation, the UK in the 2001 adaptation, and Malta and Italy in the 2017 adaptations, replacing Yugoslavia (and Turkey in the 2017 adaptation).



** The 1974 film commits a lesser offence by including a Wagon-Lits Pullman lounge car; one did operate in the Simplon-Orient-Express, but not on this part of the line.




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* RaceLift: In the 2017 film:
** Dr. (not Col.) Arbuthnot is played by a black actor.
** Pierre Michel is played by a Dutch-Tunisian actor.
** The Swedish Greta Ohlsson becomes Spanish or Hispanic.
** The Italian Foscarelli becomes a Cuban.
4th May '17 7:54:26 PM danlansdowne
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* GodCreatedCanonForeigner: Played with. The 2017 movie renames [[Spoiler:Greta Ohlsson]] Pilar Estravados - the name of a character in the 1938 novel ''Hercule Poirot's Christmas''.
3rd May '17 2:24:29 PM ProfessorGrimm
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A [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptation]] was made [[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress1974 in 1974]], directed by Creator/SidneyLumet and featuring an AllStarCast. It was adapted again as a MadeForTVMovie in 2001, and once more in 2010 for ''Series/{{Poirot}}''. [[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress2017 A new film adaption]] directed and starring Sir Creator/KennethBranagh is currently scheduled for a 2017 release by Creator/Fox.

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A [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptation]] was made [[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress1974 in 1974]], directed by Creator/SidneyLumet and featuring an AllStarCast. It was adapted again as a MadeForTVMovie in 2001, and once more in 2010 for ''Series/{{Poirot}}''. [[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress2017 A new film adaption]] directed and starring Sir Creator/KennethBranagh is currently scheduled for a 2017 release by Creator/Fox.
Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox.
3rd May '17 2:23:32 PM ProfessorGrimm
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A [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptation]] was made [[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress1974 in 1974]], directed by Creator/SidneyLumet and featuring an AllStarCast. It was adapted again as a MadeForTVMovie in 2001, and once more in 2010 for ''Series/{{Poirot}}''. [[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress2017 A new film adaption]] directed and starring Sir Creator/KennethBranagh is currently scheduled for a 2017 release by Creator/20thCenturyFox.

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A [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptation]] was made [[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress1974 in 1974]], directed by Creator/SidneyLumet and featuring an AllStarCast. It was adapted again as a MadeForTVMovie in 2001, and once more in 2010 for ''Series/{{Poirot}}''. [[Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress2017 A new film adaption]] directed and starring Sir Creator/KennethBranagh is currently scheduled for a 2017 release by Creator/20thCenturyFox.
Creator/Fox.
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