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* CanonDiscontinuity: While Norma Cenva and Aurelius Venport are mentioned in the original novels, they are portrayed very differently in the prequels. Aurelius is described as an egotistical man in the original novels, who claimed Norma's invention as his own and demanded that she bear him five children, eventually being destroyed by his own realization that his accomplishments would never match his ego. In the prequels, Aurelius is a kind man, who cares deeply for Norma long before they begin a romantic relationship, while being her mother Zufa Cenva's lover. Eventually, Aurelius and Norma begin a relationship, and he finances her scientific work on the Holtzman field. He and Norma only have one child (although he may have produced more with Zufa), and Aurelius is killed shortly after, not by his own sense of inadequacy but as a result of a fatal misunderstanding, when he and Zufa are rescued from cymek captivity by a Titan named Hecate. Zufa assumes that Hecate is one of the evil Titans and unleashes a deadly [[PsychicPowers psychic]] blast that kills herself, Aurelius, and Hecate.
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* CanonDiscontinuity: While Norma Cenva and Aurelius Venport are mentioned in the original novels, they are portrayed very differently in the prequels. Aurelius is described as an egotistical man in the original novels, who claimed Norma's invention as his own and demanded that she bear him five children, eventually being destroyed by his own realization that his accomplishments would never match his ego. In the prequels, Aurelius is a kind man, who cares deeply for Norma long before they begin a romantic relationship, while being her mother Zufa Cenva's lover. Eventually, Aurelius and Norma begin a relationship, and he finances her scientific work on the Holtzman field. He and Norma only have one child (although he may have produced more with Zufa), and Aurelius [[spoiler:Aurelius is killed shortly after, not by his own sense of inadequacy but as a result of a fatal misunderstanding, when he and Zufa are rescued from cymek captivity by a Titan named Hecate. Zufa assumes that Hecate is one of the evil Titans and unleashes a deadly [[PsychicPowers psychic]] blast that kills herself, Aurelius, and Hecate.Hecate]].
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* CanonDiscontinuity: While Norma Cenva and Aurelius Venport are mentioned in the original novels, they are portrayed very differently in the prequels. Aurelius is described as an egotistical man in the original novels, who claimed Norma's invention as his own and demanded that she bear him five children, eventually being destroyed by his own realization that his accomplishments would never match his ego. In the prequels, Aurelius is a kind man, who cares deeply for Norma long before they begin a romantic relationship, while being her mother Zufa Cenva's lover. Eventually, Aurelius and Norma begin a relationship, and he finances her scientific work on the Holtzman field. He and Norma only have one child (although he may have produced more with Zufa), and Aurelius is killed shortly after, not by his own sense of inadequacy but as a result of a fatal misunderstanding, when he and Zufa are rescued from cymek captivity by a Titan named Hecate. Zufa assumes that Hecate is one of the evil Titans and unleashes a deadly [[PsychicPowers psychic]] blast that kills herself, Aurelius, and Hecate.
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* SuperPrototype: Norma Cenva to every subsequent Navigator. However, this has less to do with her being first and more to do with her being a Sorceress of Rossak. Her prescience is greater than any other Navigator's, and she is able to fold space without a Holtzman engine.
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* HyperspeedEscape: Happens a few times in the prequels. Not so much in the main novels due to the Guild's monopoly on interstellar travel.
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* HyperspeedEscape: Happens a few times in the prequels. Not so much in the main novels due to the Guild's monopoly on interstellar travel. Notably, Norma Cenva is able to do this even without a ship, as her powerful PsychicPowers allow her to fold space at will, unlike every other Navigator.
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* ShoutOut: Butlerian fanatics bring down a HumongousMecha by using steel cables to trip the legs in a clear parallel of the second ''Franchise/StarWars'' film.
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* MoralMyopia: Manford Torondo doesn't understand why Prince Roderick blames him for the death of his daughter during one the rampages of Manford's Butlerian fanatics. After all, she was simply an accidental casualty of the mob blowing off some steam, all for the good of humanity. Manford wasn't the one who killed her, right? So what if he was the one who unleashed the mob?
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* HumongousMecha: Cymeks used large mechanical bodies with multiple limbs and devastating weaponry, with their BrainInAJar plugging into special sockets, allowing them to control the bodies as easily as if they were their own. [[spoiler:80 years after the end of the Jihad, Venport Holding scientists recreate the technology and start making more cymeks using the brains of failed Navigators in order to counter the mindless hordes of the Butlerian fanatics]].
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* [[invoked]] TechnologyMarchesOn: While ''Ballista''-class battleships were the top-of-the-line human warships during the Jihad, 80 years later, they're largely obsolete. The modern Imperial fleet has powerful destroyers and fighters, although none of those are FTL-capable, as it's simpler to employ the services of a foldspace transportation company. Also, Venhold warships are even more advanced than Imperial ones and use technology that could be branded as illegal. During a space battle between several dozen Venhold warships and nearly 200 ''Ballista''e operated by Butlerian fanatics, over half of the obsolete ships are wiped out by the far more advanced Venhold ships despite being outnumbered.
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* TeleFrag: Traveling faster-than-light with a Holtzmann engine requires either extremely precise calculations of the kind that only forbidden computers can do or the use of a prescient Navigator, the secret of whose manufacture is kept by Venport Holdings, the only transportation company that provides safe FTL travel. As an example, [[spoiler:a sizable portion of the Imperial forces is wiped out, when they use an [=EsconTran=] carrier to jump to Kolhar to punish Josef Venport for assassinating Emperor Salvador, only for the carrier to come out of the jump in the star's corona, vaporizing instantly]].
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* RobotWar: The "Butlerian Jihad," which is referenced in the very first book but wasn't fleshed out in any detail, until this series. Led to a core tenet of civilization: "[[AIIsACrapshoot thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind]]"-- by which we mean, No Computers Allowed. Various schools of mental training, such as the Mentats and the Bene Gesserit, were founded to produce humans who can do what Pentiums did (and eventually went far beyond that).
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* RobotWar: The "Butlerian Jihad," which is referenced in the very first book but wasn't fleshed out in any detail, until this series. Led to a core tenet of civilization: "[[AIIsACrapshoot thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind]]"-- by which we mean, No Computers Allowed. Various schools of mental training, such as the Mentats and the Bene Gesserit, were founded to produce humans who can do what Pentiums did (and eventually went far beyond that).that).
* TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening: Norma Cenva, a small, misshapen daughter of Zufa Cenva, the leader of the Sorceresses of Rossak, is thought to have inherited no PsychicPowers of her own, but has genius-level intelligence. At one point, she is kidnapped by the cymeks and subjected to torture. The torture awakens her latent (and quite considerable) powers, and she emits a deadly [[MindOverMatter telekinetic]] blast that kills any cymek in the vicinity and disintegrates her own body. However, with her new-found powers, her consciousness survives, and she gains access to her ancestral memory. She then reconstructs her body molecule-by-molecule based on the template of her female ancestors and returns as the most powerful Sorceress in existence.
* TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening: Norma Cenva, a small, misshapen daughter of Zufa Cenva, the leader of the Sorceresses of Rossak, is thought to have inherited no PsychicPowers of her own, but has genius-level intelligence. At one point, she is kidnapped by the cymeks and subjected to torture. The torture awakens her latent (and quite considerable) powers, and she emits a deadly [[MindOverMatter telekinetic]] blast that kills any cymek in the vicinity and disintegrates her own body. However, with her new-found powers, her consciousness survives, and she gains access to her ancestral memory. She then reconstructs her body molecule-by-molecule based on the template of her female ancestors and returns as the most powerful Sorceress in existence.
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* LongLived: Vorian Atreides, the founder of what would be later known as House Atreides, and Gilbertus Albans, the first Mentat. Both of them used to work for the machines and underwent the LongevityTreatment created during the time of the Old Imperium (now forgotten), giving them potentially centuries of healthy living. The same is implied for the [[BrainInAJar Cogitors and the Titans]], given that their brains survive for far longer than normal human lifespan.
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* AwefulTruth:/ShockingSwerve: [[spoiler: the prequel timeline has the jihad proper launched by the Cold-blooded Murder of Serena Buttler By her trusted,supposedly personally loyal Bodyguard, followed by the galaxy-wide dissemination of a faked video of Omnius torturing her to death in a Cynical attempt to manipulate a rallying Humanity into a war of extermination, vs a slave rebellion . she had actually ATTEMPTED to bring about a ceasefire and potential end to the war, which was the direct trigger for her betrayal....]]
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* AwefulTruth:/ShockingSwerve: AwfulTruth:/ShockingSwerve: [[spoiler: the prequel timeline has the jihad proper launched by the Cold-blooded Murder of Serena Buttler By her trusted,supposedly personally loyal Bodyguard, followed by the galaxy-wide dissemination of a faked video of Omnius torturing her to death in a Cynical attempt to manipulate a rallying Humanity into a war of extermination, vs a slave rebellion . she had actually ATTEMPTED to bring about a ceasefire and potential end to the war, which was the direct trigger for her betrayal....]]
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* RobotWar: The "Butlerian Jihad," which is referenced in the very first book but wasn't fleshed out in any detail, until this series. Led to a core tenet of civilization: "[[AIIsACrapshoot thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind]]"-- by which we mean, No Computers Allowed. Various schools of mental training, such as the Mentats and the Bene Gesserit, were founded to produce humans who can do what Pentiums did (and eventually went far beyond that).
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The ''Legends of Dune'' trilogy is a set of prequels set in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' universe, set during the Butlerian Jihad that was mentioned frequently in the original series, mostly in the context of a prohibition on technology. The story follows a [[RobotWar human-machine conflict]] with humans as part of a 'League of Nobles' versus a sapient computer Omnius that has control of a machine empire. The story also establishes the major families that we come to know in Creator/FrankHerbert's original ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' series, including the Atreides, Harkonnens and Corrinos (the Butler family, which later changes its name). The trilogy also plants the seeds regarding the great schools of the ''Dune'' universe, including sub-plots that lead to the formation of the Bene Gesserit sisterhood, Spacing Guild, Suk School of Medicine and the Order of Mentats, the great schools are the focus of a subsequent sequel trilogy ''Great Schools of Dune''. The events in this trilogy also setup for the author's attempt at a conclusion to the original series, ''Literature/HuntersSandwormsOfDune''.
This differs somewhat from the implied portrayal of the conflict in the original works, and from the portrayal of the Frank Herbert endorsed ''Literature/DuneEncyclopedia'' (see write-up on that page regarding canonicity), but the authors claim it is based on Creator/FrankHerbert's notes prior to his [[AuthorExistenceFailure death]] (something not all fans believe).
The ''Legends of Dune'' series is written by Frank Herbert's son Brian Herbert (Managing Partner of Creator/HerbertPropertiesLLC, the holder of Frank Herbert's intellectual property) and Creator/KevinJAnderson.
This differs somewhat from the implied portrayal of the conflict in the original works, and from the portrayal of the Frank Herbert endorsed ''Literature/DuneEncyclopedia'' (see write-up on that page regarding canonicity), but the authors claim it is based on Creator/FrankHerbert's notes prior to his [[AuthorExistenceFailure death]] (something not all fans believe).
The ''Legends of Dune'' series is written by Frank Herbert's son Brian Herbert (Managing Partner of Creator/HerbertPropertiesLLC, the holder of Frank Herbert's intellectual property) and Creator/KevinJAnderson.
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The ''Legends of Dune'' trilogy is a set of prequels set in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' universe, set during the Butlerian Jihad that was mentioned frequently in the original series, mostly in the context of a prohibition on technology. The story follows a [[RobotWar human-machine conflict]] with humans as part of a 'League of Nobles' versus a sapient computer Omnius that has control of a machine empire. The ''Legends of Dune'' series is written by Frank Herbert's son Brian Herbert (Managing Partner of Creator/HerbertPropertiesLLC, the holder of Frank Herbert's intellectual property) and Creator/KevinJAnderson.
The story also establishes the major families that we come to know in Creator/FrankHerbert's original ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' series, including the Atreides, Harkonnens and Corrinos (the Butler family, which later changes itsname). The trilogy also plants the seeds regarding the great schools of the ''Dune'' universe, including sub-plots that lead to the formation of the Bene Gesserit sisterhood, Spacing Guild, Suk School of Medicine and the Order of Mentats, the great schools are the focus of a subsequent sequel trilogy ''Great Schools of Dune''.name). The events in this trilogy also setup for the author's attempt at a conclusion to the original series, ''Literature/HuntersSandwormsOfDune''.
The trilogy also plants the seeds regarding the great schools of the ''Dune'' universe, including sub-plots that lead to the formation of the Bene Gesserit sisterhood, Spacing Guild, Suk Institute and the Order of Mentats, the great schools are the focus of a subsequent sequel trilogy ''Great Schools of Dune'' set after an eighty year TimeSkip from the Legends series.
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The ''Legends of Dune'' series is written by Frank Herbert's son Brian Herbert (Managing Partner of Creator/HerbertPropertiesLLC, the holder of Frank Herbert's intellectual property) and Creator/KevinJAnderson.
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The ''Legends of Dune'' trilogy is a set of prequels set in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' universe, set during the Butlerian Jihad that was mentioned frequently in the original series, mostly in the context of a prohibition on technology. The story follows a [[RobotWar human-machine conflict]] with humans as part of a 'League of Nobles' versus a sapient computer Omnius that has control of a machine empire. The story also establishes the major families that we come to know in Creator/FrankHerbert's original ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' series, including the Atreides, Harkonnens and Corrinos (the Butler family, which later changes its name). The trilogy also plants the seeds regarding the great schools of the ''Dune'' universe, including sub-plots that lead to the formation of the Bene Gesserit sisterhood, Spacing Guild, Suk School of Medicine and the Order of Mentats, the great schools are the focus of a subsequent sequel trilogy ''Great Schools of Dune''. The events in this trilogy also setup for the author's attempt at a conclusion to the original series, ''Literature/HuntersSandwormsOfDune''.
This differs somewhat from the implied portrayal of the conflict in the original works, and from the portrayal of the Frank Herbert endorsed ''Literature/DuneEncyclopedia'' (see write-up on that page regarding canonicity), but the authors claim it is based on Creator/FrankHerbert's notes prior to his [[AuthorExistenceFailure death]] (something not all fans believe).
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The sequel ''Great Schools of Dune'' series consists of:
* ''Sisterhood of Dune'' (2012)
* ''Mentats of Dune'' (2014)
* ''Navigators of Dune'' (pending publication)
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The ''Legends of Dune'' trilogy is a set of prequels set in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' universe, set during the Butlerian Jihad that was mentioned frequently in the original series, mostly in the context of a prohibition on technology. The story follows a [[RobotWar human-machine conflict]] with humans as part of a 'League of Nobles' versus a sapient computer Omnius that has control of a machine empire. This differs somewhat from the implied portrayal of the conflict in the original works, and in from the portrayal or of the Frank Herbert endorsed ''Literature/DuneEncyclopedia'', ''Literature/DuneEncyclopedia'' (see write-up on that page regarding canonicity), but the authors claim it is based on Creator/FrankHerbert's notes prior to his [[AuthorExistenceFailure death]] (something not all fans believe).
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** The name calling doesn't help, with the Creator/HerbertPropertiesLLC referring to those who don't like the prequels as 'talifans' (not too long after 9/11 no less) and those critical fans calling prequel fans 'preaks''preaks'.
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* AbsentAliens: Unless you count the Sandworms, which also may even be human in origin.
* AIIsACrapshoot
** In the original books, it was not that the computers were inherently bad, it was that humanity chose to destroy them because they were making humans lazy and limiting humanity's potential, effectively making them dependent on sentient machines for survival. Computer AI was later demonized.
** In the prequels, Omnius was actually doing what he was programmed to do (the conquest and enslavement of humanity), he just decided to work for himself, and not his Titan masters.
* TheBattlestar: The ''Ballista''-class battleships are the main warships used by the League Armada in the prequels. Besides formidable weaponry, they carry 20 troop transports, 15 shuttles, 50 patrol craft, and 200 ''Kindjal'' {{Space Fighter}}s. Each one also has a crew of 1500. They are later equipped with DeflectorShields and Holtzmann drives.
* BrainInAJar: The prequels have brain-jar villains riding around in [[HumongousMecha giant war machines]] ([[RuleOfCool just because they can]]), who cause the [[RobotWar Butlerian Jihad]] through poor programming of their [[AIIsACrapshoot computerized inside "man"]] and wind up as minions/slaves themselves. Besides the Titans ([[HumongousMecha giant war machines]] ), are the Cogitors, humans who gave up their bodies to spend millennia contemplating the mysteries of the universe. As a group they have declared themselves neutral in the war where humanity is being exterminated like rats.
* CloningBodyParts: In the prequels the early Tleilaxu were known as suppliers of transplantable organs that they grew on trees. However, while they did do that it didn't provide enough organs to meet demand during the Butlerian Jihad so most of their products were a side of their slaving business.
* CocaPepsiInc: Zensunni and the prequel-only Zenshiites.
* DeusEstMachina: The backstory suggests humanity once created machines so advanced that life became incredibly easy and comfortable. It is implied that humans (or at least a large number of [[WellIntentionedExtremist fanatics]]) became so abhorred by their perceived over-reliance on intelligent machines (and advanced computer technology in general) that they initiated the Butlerian Jihad, a violent purge of all Artificial Intelligence and advanced computers. When the Jihad ended, it became a crime by religious and secular law to create advanced computers (the chief commandment resulting from this war is that "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of the human mind"), with all of their functions in calculation and space travel adopted by specialized humans (who arguably become a human form of this trope). The prequel novels which detail the Butlerian Jihad as a more straightforward RobotWar against oppressive ruler AIs did, of course, piss off the fans most mightily.
* EmperorScientist: The [[BrainInAJar cymek]] [[HumongousMecha titans]], who were philosopher kings and scientists, particularly ones that dealt with robotics, cybernetics, and artificial intelligence.
* FanonDiscontinuity: Some fans do not consider this series as canonical, either preferring the interpretation of the ''Literature/DuneEncyclopedia'' which follows more closely what's implied in the original series; or not accepting anything at all not written by Creator/FrankHerbert.
** The name calling doesn't help, with the Creator/HerbertPropertiesLLC referring to those who don't like the prequels as 'talifans' and those fans calling prequel fans 'preaks'
* FasterThanLightTravel: Achieved via the use of the Holtzman generators, folding space nearly-instantaneously to the destination. However, in order to avoid getting atomized on the way, Spacing Guild Navigators are required to envision the safe passage (since computers aren't allowed). The prequel novels show that a more conventional means of FTL travel was used before the invention of space folding, which took weeks-to-month to get from star to star. It was largely phased out after space folding became common, although it's mentioned in ''Sisterhood of Dune'' that non-critical cargo is still sent by (relatively) slow ships (i.e. using conventional FTL drives) in order to cut costs (this is before they start building the enormous Heighliners).
* HyperspeedEscape: Happens a few times in the prequels. Not so much in the main novels due to the Guild's monopoly on interstellar travel.
PrequelInTheLostAge: The novels cover the ancient history where machines ruled the galaxy.
* ReallyGetsAround: Vorian Atreides in the prequels. Of course, living for centuries gets lonely. After his first wife's (natural) death, he goes to track down any other descendants he may have from many encounters over the decades. Apparently, he has never heard of contraceptives or just doesn't care. Later on, he re-marries and has another family. After his second wife's death (not natural), he is once again free to do whatever (and whomever) he wants.
* RobotWar: The "Butlerian Jihad," which is referenced in the very first book but wasn't fleshed out in any detail, until this series. Led to a core tenet of civilization: "[[AIIsACrapshoot thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind]]"-- by which we mean, No Computers Allowed. Various schools of mental training, such as the Mentats and the Bene Gesserit, were founded to produce humans who can do what Pentiums did (and eventually went far beyond that).
* ''Dune: The Machine
* ''Dune: The Battle of
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!! The ''Legends of Dune'' trilogy contains examples of:
* AbsentAliens: Unless you count the Sandworms, which also may even be human in origin.
* AIIsACrapshoot
** In the original books, it was not that the computers were inherently bad, it was that humanity chose to destroy them because they were making humans lazy and limiting humanity's potential, effectively making them dependent on sentient machines for survival. Computer AI was later demonized.
** In the prequels, Omnius was actually doing what he was programmed to do (the conquest and enslavement of humanity), he just decided to work for himself, and not his Titan masters.
* TheBattlestar: The ''Ballista''-class battleships are the main warships used by the League Armada in the prequels. Besides formidable weaponry, they carry 20 troop transports, 15 shuttles, 50 patrol craft, and 200 ''Kindjal'' {{Space Fighter}}s. Each one also has a crew of 1500. They are later equipped with DeflectorShields and Holtzmann drives.
* BrainInAJar: The prequels have brain-jar villains riding around in [[HumongousMecha giant war machines]] ([[RuleOfCool just because they can]]), who cause the [[RobotWar Butlerian Jihad]] through poor programming of their [[AIIsACrapshoot computerized inside "man"]] and wind up as minions/slaves themselves. Besides the Titans ([[HumongousMecha giant war machines]] ), are the Cogitors, humans who gave up their bodies to spend millennia contemplating the mysteries of the universe. As a group they have declared themselves neutral in the war where humanity is being exterminated like rats.
* CloningBodyParts: In the prequels the early Tleilaxu were known as suppliers of transplantable organs that they grew on trees. However, while they did do that it didn't provide enough organs to meet demand during the Butlerian Jihad so most of their products were a side of their slaving business.
* CocaPepsiInc: Zensunni and the prequel-only Zenshiites.
* DeusEstMachina: The backstory suggests humanity once created machines so advanced that life became incredibly easy and comfortable. It is implied that humans (or at least a large number of [[WellIntentionedExtremist fanatics]]) became so abhorred by their perceived over-reliance on intelligent machines (and advanced computer technology in general) that they initiated the Butlerian Jihad, a violent purge of all Artificial Intelligence and advanced computers. When the Jihad ended, it became a crime by religious and secular law to create advanced computers (the chief commandment resulting from this war is that "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of the human mind"), with all of their functions in calculation and space travel adopted by specialized humans (who arguably become a human form of this trope). The prequel novels which detail the Butlerian Jihad as a more straightforward RobotWar against oppressive ruler AIs did, of course, piss off the fans most mightily.
* EmperorScientist: The [[BrainInAJar cymek]] [[HumongousMecha titans]], who were philosopher kings and scientists, particularly ones that dealt with robotics, cybernetics, and artificial intelligence.
* FanonDiscontinuity: Some fans do not consider this series as canonical, either preferring the interpretation of the ''Literature/DuneEncyclopedia'' which follows more closely what's implied in the original series; or not accepting anything at all not written by Creator/FrankHerbert.
** The name calling doesn't help, with the Creator/HerbertPropertiesLLC referring to those who don't like the prequels as 'talifans' and those fans calling prequel fans 'preaks'
* FasterThanLightTravel: Achieved via the use of the Holtzman generators, folding space nearly-instantaneously to the destination. However, in order to avoid getting atomized on the way, Spacing Guild Navigators are required to envision the safe passage (since computers aren't allowed). The prequel novels show that a more conventional means of FTL travel was used before the invention of space folding, which took weeks-to-month to get from star to star. It was largely phased out after space folding became common, although it's mentioned in ''Sisterhood of Dune'' that non-critical cargo is still sent by (relatively) slow ships (i.e. using conventional FTL drives) in order to cut costs (this is before they start building the enormous Heighliners).
* HyperspeedEscape: Happens a few times in the prequels. Not so much in the main novels due to the Guild's monopoly on interstellar travel.
PrequelInTheLostAge: The novels cover the ancient history where machines ruled the galaxy.
* ReallyGetsAround: Vorian Atreides in the prequels. Of course, living for centuries gets lonely. After his first wife's (natural) death, he goes to track down any other descendants he may have from many encounters over the decades. Apparently, he has never heard of contraceptives or just doesn't care. Later on, he re-marries and has another family. After his second wife's death (not natural), he is once again free to do whatever (and whomever) he wants.
* RobotWar: The "Butlerian Jihad," which is referenced in the very first book but wasn't fleshed out in any detail, until this series. Led to a core tenet of civilization: "[[AIIsACrapshoot thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind]]"-- by which we mean, No Computers Allowed. Various schools of mental training, such as the Mentats and the Bene Gesserit, were founded to produce humans who can do what Pentiums did (and eventually went far beyond that).
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The ''Legends of Dune'' trilogy is a set of prequels set in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' universe, set during the Butlerian Jihad that was mentioned frequently in the original series, mostly in the context of a prohibition on technology. The story follows a [[RobotWar human-machine conflict]] with humans as part of a 'League of Nobles' versus a sapient computer Omnius that has control of a machine empire. This differs somewhat from the implied portrayal of the conflict in the original works, but the authors claim it is based on Creator/FrankHerbert's notes prior to his [[AuthorExistenceFailure death]].
The ''Legends of Dune'' series is written by Frank Herbert's son Brian Herbert (Managingpartner Partner of Creator/HerbertPropertiesLLC, the holder of Frank Herbert's intellectual property) and Creator/KevinJAnderson.
The ''Legends of Dune'' series is written by Frank Herbert's son Brian Herbert (Managing
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The ''Legends of Dune'' trilogy is a set of prequels set in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' universe, set during the Butlerian Jihad that was mentioned frequently in the original series, mostly in the context of a prohibition on technology. The ''Legends of Dune'' series is written by Frank Herbert's son Brian Herbert (Managing partner of Creator/HerbertPropertiesLLC, the holder of Frank Herbert's intellectual property) and Creator/KevinJAnderson.
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The ''Legends of Dune'' trilogy is a set of prequels set in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' universe, set during the Butlerian Jihad that was mentioned frequently in the original series, mostly in the context of a prohibition on technology.
The ''Legends of Dune'' series consists of:
* ''Dune: The Butlerian Jihad''
* ''Dune: The Machine Crusade''
* ''Dune: The Battle of Corrin''
The ''Legends of Dune'' trilogy is a set of prequels set in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' universe, set during the Butlerian Jihad that was mentioned frequently in the original series, mostly in the context of a prohibition on technology.
The ''Legends of Dune'' series consists of:
* ''Dune: The Butlerian Jihad''
* ''Dune: The Machine Crusade''
* ''Dune: The Battle of Corrin''
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--> ''Everything in the universe contains flaws, ourselves included. Even God does not attempt perfection in His creations. Only humankind has such foolish arrogance.''
-->-- '''Cogitor Kwyna''' Dune: The Butlerian Jihad
