History Literature / HowGreenWasMyValley

4th Jul '16 6:23:59 AM JamesAustin
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The film was a great financial success and later won five [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]], including one of the most famous examples of the AwardSnub backlash: While it was well-received at its time, and still maintains a good reputation among film buffs, it won Best Picture of 1941. The problem? Also up for Best Picture in 1942 was a little picture by a [[Creator/OrsonWelles novice director]] called ''Film/CitizenKane'', widely regarded as one of, if not the, greatest films ever made; and another little ditty named ''Film/TheMalteseFalcon''. As a result, ''Valley'' is best known today as "[[AwardSnub that movie that won Best Picture over]] ''Film/CitizenKane''". In 1990, it was selected for inclusion in the UsefulNotes/NationalFilmRegistry of the Library of Congress.

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The film was a great financial success and later won five [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]], including one of the most famous examples of the AwardSnub backlash: While Winning Best Picture in 1942, which doesn't seem that much of a surpirse, since it was well-received at its time, and still maintains a good reputation among film buffs, it won Best Picture of 1941.buffs. The problem? Also up for Best Picture in 1942 was a little picture by a [[Creator/OrsonWelles novice director]] called ''Film/CitizenKane'', widely regarded as one of, if not the, greatest films ever made; and another little ditty named ''Film/TheMalteseFalcon''. As a result, ''Valley'' is best known today as "[[AwardSnub that movie that won Best Picture over]] ''Film/CitizenKane''". In 1990, it was selected for inclusion in the UsefulNotes/NationalFilmRegistry of the Library of Congress.



** Beating out ''[[RunningGag Citizen Kane]]''.
3rd Jul '16 7:27:03 PM Doug86
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* CaliforniaDoubling: The film was originally intended to be made in the UK, but WorldWarII made that idea all but impossible. So, it was filmed on the 20th Century Fox backlot. According to movie lore, the move to California meant that the movie would have to be filmed in black and white, rather than color as originally intended, because the colors of the flowers and other vegetation in California would not match the colors in Wales.

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* CaliforniaDoubling: The film was originally intended to be made in the UK, but WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII made that idea all but impossible. So, it was filmed on the 20th Century Fox backlot. According to movie lore, the move to California meant that the movie would have to be filmed in black and white, rather than color as originally intended, because the colors of the flowers and other vegetation in California would not match the colors in Wales.
3rd Jul '16 12:38:07 PM JamesAustin
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->Memory... Strange that the mind will forget so much of what only this moment has passed, and yet hold clear and bright the memory of what happened years ago; of men and women long since dead.
-->'''Huw Morgan'''

->[[TitleDrop How green was my valley]] then, and the valley of them that have gone.
-->Last line of the novel.

A 1939 novel by Richard Llewellyn, ''How Green Was My Valley'' was adapted into a 1941 TwentiethCenturyFox film directed by Creator/JohnFord and starring Walter Pidgeon, Donald Crisp, Creator/MaureenOHara, and Roddy [=McDowell=], with a score by Creator/AlfredNewman. It tells the story of Huw Morgan, the youngest son of a mining family in the Welsh village of Cwm Rhondda. Through his eyes, we see such events as his brother Ivor's wedding, the consequences of his sister Angharad's chaste romance with preacher Mr. Gruffydd (as well as her loveless and failed marriage into the mine owner's family), and a miner's strike in his town.

The film was a great financial success and later won five [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]], including [[AwardSnub a now-controversial win as Best Picture of 1941]], over a little picture by a [[Creator/OrsonWelles novice director]] called ''Film/CitizenKane'', and another little ditty by name of ''Film/TheMalteseFalcon''. Some only talk about it as the film that shouldn't have won those Oscars, which is somewhat unfair, since it is an excellent movie in its own right. In 1990, it was selected for inclusion in the UsefulNotes/NationalFilmRegistry of the LibraryOfCongress.

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->Memory... Strange that the mind will forget so much of what only this moment has passed, and yet hold clear and bright the memory of what happened years ago; of men and women long since dead.
-->'''Huw Morgan'''

->[[TitleDrop How
org/pmwiki/pub/images/how_green_was_my_valley.jpg]]

->''"How
green was my valley]] valley then, and the valley of them that have gone.
-->Last
gone."''
-->--'''Last
line of the novel.

A 1939 novel by Richard Llewellyn,
novel'''

''How Green Was My Valley'' is a 1939 novel by Richard Llewellyn, which was adapted into a 1941 TwentiethCenturyFox Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox film directed by Creator/JohnFord and starring Walter Pidgeon, Donald Crisp, Creator/MaureenOHara, and Roddy [=McDowell=], with a score by Creator/AlfredNewman. It tells the story of Huw Morgan, the youngest son of a mining family in the Welsh village of Cwm Rhondda. Through his eyes, we see such events as his brother Ivor's wedding, the consequences of his sister Angharad's chaste romance with preacher Mr. Gruffydd (as well as her loveless and failed marriage into the mine owner's family), and a miner's strike in his town.

The film was a great financial success and later won five [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]], including [[AwardSnub one of the most famous examples of the AwardSnub backlash: While it was well-received at its time, and still maintains a now-controversial win as good reputation among film buffs, it won Best Picture of 1941]], over 1941. The problem? Also up for Best Picture in 1942 was a little picture by a [[Creator/OrsonWelles novice director]] called ''Film/CitizenKane'', widely regarded as one of, if not the, greatest films ever made; and another little ditty by name of named ''Film/TheMalteseFalcon''. Some only talk about it As a result, ''Valley'' is best known today as the film "[[AwardSnub that shouldn't have won those Oscars, which is somewhat unfair, since it is an excellent movie in its own right. that won Best Picture over]] ''Film/CitizenKane''". In 1990, it was selected for inclusion in the UsefulNotes/NationalFilmRegistry of the LibraryOfCongress.Library of Congress.



* BookEnds: The scenes in the film both following mine accidents, where Gwillym cradles his son Ivor's dead body on the elevator, and where Huw similarly cradles his father's dead body on the same elevator.

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* BookEnds: {{Bookends}}: The scenes in the film both following mine accidents, where Gwillym cradles his son Ivor's dead body on the elevator, and where Huw similarly cradles his father's dead body on the same elevator.
13th Mar '16 7:59:21 PM jamespolk
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* BittersweetEnding: And that's an understatement. One could make a case that it's actually a DownerEnding.
* BookEnds: The scenes in the film [[spoiler: both following mine accidents, where Gwillym cradles his son Ivor's dead body on the elevator, and where Huw similarly cradles his father's dead body on the same elevator.]]

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* BittersweetEnding: And that's an understatement. One could make a case that it's actually a DownerEnding.
AsYouKnow: "Mr. Evans! The mine owner himself!"
* BookEnds: The scenes in the film [[spoiler: both following mine accidents, where Gwillym cradles his son Ivor's dead body on the elevator, and where Huw similarly cradles his father's dead body on the same elevator.]]



* ComingOfAge

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* ComingOfAgeComingOfAge: Huw grows up quite a bit over the course of the movie.



* DiedInYourArmsTonight: [[spoiler:when the rescuers bring up Huw's father on the shaft elevator.]] Maybe a PietaPlagiarism.

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* DiedInYourArmsTonight: [[spoiler:when When the rescuers bring up Huw's father on the shaft elevator.]] elevator. Maybe a PietaPlagiarism.PietaPlagiarism.
* DownerEnding: An ending that was unusually bleak for Hollywood films of the day. Huw's father is killed in the mine. His brothers have scattered off around the world due to the lack of good jobs in Wales. Mr. Gruffyd and Angharad don't get together--in fact, Mr. Gruffyd leaves the town, disgusted with the small-minded people in his congregation. And in the FramingDevice, when Huw is leaving the valley as an old man, it's been spoiled and befouled by the pollution of coal mining. The last line is "How green was my valley ''then''."



* GrowingUpSucks

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* GrowingUpSucksGrowingUpSucks: In that you have to leave school behind and take up adult responsibilities.



* InnocenceLost: Huw's growing up includes half his family driven away for their pro-union activities, his sister marrying a man she doesn't love, being forced by circumstances to take a job with coal mine, his town elders driving away the good priest who mentored Huw, and [[spoiler:the death of his father in a mining accident.]] By the end of the movie and novel, his green valley is no more. [[BittersweetEnding All that remains are the memories of his loved ones]].

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* InnocenceLost: Huw's growing up includes half his family driven away for their pro-union activities, his sister marrying a man she doesn't love, being forced by circumstances to take a job with coal mine, his town elders driving away the good priest who mentored Huw, and [[spoiler:the the death of his father in a mining accident.]] accident. By the end of the movie and novel, his green valley is no more. [[BittersweetEnding All that remains are the memories of his loved ones]].



* ParentalAbandonment: [[spoiler: Mr. Morgan dies at the end in a mining explosion.]]
* PrecisionFStrike: Beth Morgan has a couple of 1941-style moments. First, she begins her ReasonYouSuckSpeech to the striking miners with, "I am Beth Morgan, as you damn well know!" Later, [[spoiler: after Ivor is killed just before his child's birth]] she questions God's will. When Gwillym warns her about incurring God's wrath, she answers, "To Hell with the wrath!"

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* ParentalAbandonment: [[spoiler: Mr. Morgan dies at the end in a mining explosion.]]
* PrecisionFStrike: Beth Morgan has a couple of 1941-style moments. First, she begins her ReasonYouSuckSpeech to the striking miners with, "I am Beth Morgan, as you damn well know!" Later, [[spoiler: after Ivor is killed just before his child's birth]] birth she questions God's will. When Gwillym warns her about incurring God's wrath, she answers, "To Hell with the wrath!"



* SliceOfLife
* TemptingFate: Gwillym declares that if the congregation goes ahead with their condemnation of Angharad and Mr. Gruffydd, he'd never set foot in the church again. They do, [[spoiler: and he doesn't. He's mortally injured in a mine explosion that night.]]

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* SliceOfLife
SliceOfLife: A portrait of life in a small Welsh mining town and how poverty breaks families apart.
* TemptingFate: Gwillym declares that if the congregation goes ahead with their condemnation of Angharad and Mr. Gruffydd, he'd never set foot in the church again. They do, [[spoiler: and he doesn't. He's mortally injured in a mine explosion that night.]]
26th Feb '16 2:50:50 PM ProfessorGrimm
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* EvilIsPetty: The Evans's housekeeper Mrs. Nicholas starts the malicious rumors about Angarhad and Mr. Gruffyd, simply because she doesn't like serving the lower-class Angarhad.


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* YourCheatingHeart: Averted. Despite her unhappy marriage to Mr. Evans's son - Angharad keeps her distance away from her real love Mr. Gruffyd. This doesn't stop Mrs. Nicholas from spreading malicious rumors about a divorce however.
20th Dec '15 6:06:53 PM eowynjedi
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* AsTheGoodBookSays: Angarhad uses Jesus' words to the sinful women when she protests the elders' condemnation of an unwed mother: "Go now and sin no more."



* CaliforniaDoubling: The film was originally intended to be made in the UK, but WorldWarII made that idea all but impossible. So, it was filmed on the 20th Century Fox backlot.
** According to movie lore, the move to California meant that the movie would have to be filmed in black and white, rather than color as originally intended, because the colors of the flowers and other vegetation in California would not match the colors in Wales.

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* CaliforniaDoubling: The film was originally intended to be made in the UK, but WorldWarII made that idea all but impossible. So, it was filmed on the 20th Century Fox backlot.
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backlot. According to movie lore, the move to California meant that the movie would have to be filmed in black and white, rather than color as originally intended, because the colors of the flowers and other vegetation in California would not match the colors in Wales.



* GossipyHens: The old ladies, starting with the maid, who spread rumors of Angarhad's love for Mr. Gruffyd throughout the town.



* HolierThanThou: The deacons, led by Parry, seem far more interested in rooting out sinners to publicly condemn than shepherding the flock.



* LaserGuidedKarma: After Mr. Jonas canes Huw to the point of fainting for boxing in the schoolyard, Dai Bando drops into the school to demonstrate proper technique.



* OffhandBackhand: Dai Bando renders Mr. Jonas unconscious with some "innocent" gesticulating as he lectures about Marquis of Queensbury rules.



* PrecociousCrush: Huw is instantly smitten with Bronwyn.



* SadistTeacher: Mr. Jonas
** Then Dai Bando doles out some LaserGuidedKarma to him.

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* SadistTeacher: Mr. Jonas
** Then Dai Bando doles out some LaserGuidedKarma to him.
Jonas, who looks down on Huw as a miner's son and beats him unconscious.


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* UnableToSupportAWife: Mr. Gruffyd is allowed to marry as a Presbyterian, but has resolved not to because he doesn't want to subject someone he loves to a life of poverty.
21st Oct '15 7:40:31 PM SvartiKotturinn
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* DefeatMeansFriendship: Once Huw proves himself to be a decent fighter against one of the boys who picked on him before, he earns his classmates’ deep respect.


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* HotForPreacher: Angharad and Mr. Grufydd.


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* ServileSnarker: The Evans’ housekeeper, who doesn’t even try to conceal her contempt for her employers.
5th Sep '15 6:57:51 PM nombretomado
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The film was a great financial success and later won five [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]], including [[AwardSnub a now-controversial win as Best Picture of 1941]], over a little picture by a [[Creator/OrsonWelles novice director]] called ''Film/CitizenKane'', and another little ditty by name of ''Film/TheMalteseFalcon''. Some only talk about it as the film that shouldn't have won those Oscars, which is somewhat unfair, since it is an excellent movie in its own right. In 1990, it was selected for inclusion in the NationalFilmRegistry of the LibraryOfCongress.

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The film was a great financial success and later won five [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]], including [[AwardSnub a now-controversial win as Best Picture of 1941]], over a little picture by a [[Creator/OrsonWelles novice director]] called ''Film/CitizenKane'', and another little ditty by name of ''Film/TheMalteseFalcon''. Some only talk about it as the film that shouldn't have won those Oscars, which is somewhat unfair, since it is an excellent movie in its own right. In 1990, it was selected for inclusion in the NationalFilmRegistry UsefulNotes/NationalFilmRegistry of the LibraryOfCongress.
20th May '15 3:58:45 PM nombretomado
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The film was a great financial success and later won five [[AcademyAward Oscars]], including [[AwardSnub a now-controversial win as Best Picture of 1941]], over a little picture by a [[Creator/OrsonWelles novice director]] called ''Film/CitizenKane'', and another little ditty by name of ''Film/TheMalteseFalcon''. Some only talk about it as the film that shouldn't have won those Oscars, which is somewhat unfair, since it is an excellent movie in its own right. In 1990, it was selected for inclusion in the NationalFilmRegistry of the LibraryOfCongress.

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The film was a great financial success and later won five [[AcademyAward [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]], including [[AwardSnub a now-controversial win as Best Picture of 1941]], over a little picture by a [[Creator/OrsonWelles novice director]] called ''Film/CitizenKane'', and another little ditty by name of ''Film/TheMalteseFalcon''. Some only talk about it as the film that shouldn't have won those Oscars, which is somewhat unfair, since it is an excellent movie in its own right. In 1990, it was selected for inclusion in the NationalFilmRegistry of the LibraryOfCongress.
5th Sep '14 5:14:15 PM gallium
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The film was a great financial success and later won five [[AcademyAward Oscars]], including [[AwardSnub a now-controversial win as Best Picture of 1941]], over a little picture by a [[OrsonWelles novice director]] called ''Film/CitizenKane'', and another little ditty by name of ''Film/TheMalteseFalcon''. Some only talk about it as the film that shouldn't have won those Oscars, which is somewhat unfair, since it is an excellent movie in its own right. In 1990, it was selected for inclusion in the NationalFilmRegistry of the LibraryOfCongress.

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The film was a great financial success and later won five [[AcademyAward Oscars]], including [[AwardSnub a now-controversial win as Best Picture of 1941]], over a little picture by a [[OrsonWelles [[Creator/OrsonWelles novice director]] called ''Film/CitizenKane'', and another little ditty by name of ''Film/TheMalteseFalcon''. Some only talk about it as the film that shouldn't have won those Oscars, which is somewhat unfair, since it is an excellent movie in its own right. In 1990, it was selected for inclusion in the NationalFilmRegistry of the LibraryOfCongress.
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