History Literature / ForWantOfANail

3rd Nov '17 9:39:48 PM TheGreatUnknown
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* AllohistoricalAllusion: [[spoiler: Benito Hermíon, the first Mexican dictator, share a first name with Benito Mussolini.]]

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* AllohistoricalAllusion: [[spoiler: Benito Hermíon, the first Mexican dictator, share shares a first name with Benito Mussolini.]] ]]
** After conquering a country--New Granada--and making it a puppet state, a brilliant military mind and emperor ([[spoiler:the aforementioned Benito]]) sends his brother to be a PuppetKing, but the brother winds up being a benevolent ruler who adopts that country's culture. This directly parallels UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte sending his brother Louis to the Netherlands.
28th Sep '17 9:09:56 PM Angeldeb82
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: InUniverse the American "rebels", George Washington especially, who has his character and competency lambasted by the unsympathetic (alternate persona) of the author.



* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: InUniverse, the American "rebels", George Washington especially, who has his character and competency lambasted by the unsympathetic (alternate persona) of the author.



* AmericaSavesTheDay: Subverted. Neither the Confederation of North America or the United States of Mexico does anything akin to the United States of America's entry into UsefulNotes/WorldWarI or UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, as the former mostly stays neutral and the latter is merely prone to opportunistic land grabs.

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* AmericaSavesTheDay: Subverted. Neither the Confederation of North America or nor the United States of Mexico does anything akin to the United States of America's entry into UsefulNotes/WorldWarI or UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, as the former mostly stays neutral and the latter is merely prone to opportunistic land grabs.



* AnyOneCanDie: And not just because it covers so much history. [[spoiler: Among them Governor of the North Confederation Daniel Webster, Indianan Grand Council member Dudley Graves, and two Mexican presidents: Pedro Hermión and Omar Kinkaid.]]

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* AnyOneCanDie: AnyoneCanDie: And not just because it covers so much history. [[spoiler: Among them Governor of the North Confederation Daniel Webster, Indianan Grand Council member Dudley Graves, and two Mexican presidents: Pedro Hermión and Omar Kinkaid.]]



* {{Climax}}: The Rocky Mountain War is one of sorts, as it occurs about midway in the book and is the only time in the story where [[spoiler: the CNA and USM are in an actual shooting war between each other.]]

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* {{Climax}}: The Rocky Mountain War is one of sorts, as it occurs about midway in the book and is the only time in the story where [[spoiler: the CNA and USM are in an actual shooting war between each other.]]other]].



* CommieLand: {{Averted}} entirely as far as we know, which implies that in our timeline, the United States indirectly contributed to the creation of [[CreateYourOwnVillain the Soviet Union.]]

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* CommieLand: {{Averted}} {{Averted|Trope}} entirely as far as we know, which implies that in our timeline, the United States indirectly contributed to the creation of [[CreateYourOwnVillain the Soviet Union.]]Union]].



* {{Dystopia}}: The United States of Mexico has shades of it. For instance, slavery doesn't get abolished there until 1920 and [[spoiler: it was a PoliceState with the backing of a MegaCorp in the intervening years.]]



* CultOfPersonality: One springs up around [[spoiler: Pedro Hermíon following his death.]]

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* CultOfPersonality: One springs up around [[spoiler: Pedro Hermíon following his death.]] death]].



* {{Dystopia}}: The United States of Mexico has shades of it. For instance, slavery doesn't get abolished there until 1920 and [[spoiler: it was a PoliceState with the backing of a MegaCorp in the intervening years.]]



* EqualOpportunityEvil: It's subtle, but [[spoiler: the Mexican dictatorship is led by Benito Hermíon, a part of the Hispano minority, and Bernard Kramer, a German immigrant.]]

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* EqualOpportunityEvil: It's subtle, but [[spoiler: the Mexican dictatorship is led by Benito Hermíon, a part of the Hispano minority, and Bernard Kramer, a German immigrant.]]immigrant]].



* FlyoverCountry: In the CNA, the Confederations of Indiana, Northern and Southern Vandalia ([[AndZoidberg and Manitoba]]) all qualify as this.

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* FlyoverCountry: In the CNA, the Confederations of Indiana, Northern and Southern Vandalia ([[AndZoidberg ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Manitoba]]) all qualify as this.



* FromNobodyToNightmare: Bernard Kramer went from an immigrant miner to a CorruptCorporateExecutive who is responsible for [[spoiler: installing a dictator in Mexico.]]

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* FromNobodyToNightmare: Bernard Kramer went from an immigrant miner to a CorruptCorporateExecutive who is responsible for [[spoiler: installing a dictator in Mexico.]]Mexico]].



* [[Creator/KarlMarx Karl Marx]]: Appears with a largely identical worldview, but with less influence in comparison to other philosophers.

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* [[Creator/KarlMarx Karl Marx]]: Creator/KarlMarx: Appears with a largely identical worldview, but with less influence in comparison to other philosophers.



* ManBehindTheMan: Bernard Kramer, who [[spoiler: set up Benito Hermíon as dictator.]] and his successor, Diego Cortez y Catalán, who [[spoiler: has the real power during Benito Hermíon's reign, and later ousts him.]]
* MeaningfulName: [[spoiler: [[UsefulNotes/BenitoMussolini ''Benito'']] Hermíon.]]

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* ManBehindTheMan: TheManBehindTheMan: Bernard Kramer, who [[spoiler: set up Benito Hermíon as dictator.]] dictator]], and his successor, Diego Cortez y Catalán, who [[spoiler: has the real power during Benito Hermíon's reign, and later ousts him.]]
him]].
* MeaningfulName: [[spoiler: [[UsefulNotes/BenitoMussolini ''Benito'']] ''UsefulNotes/{{Benito|Mussolini}}'' Hermíon.]]



* SlidingScaleofAlternateHistoryPlausibility: A Type 1, with no obvious AlternateHistoryWank or clear instances of AlienSpaceBats.

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* SlidingScaleofAlternateHistoryPlausibility: SlidingScaleOfAlternateHistoryPlausibility: A Type 1, with no obvious AlternateHistoryWank or clear instances of AlienSpaceBats.
16th Sep '17 4:14:13 PM nombretomado
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Although historical figures factor heavily in the beginning, such as ThomasEdison essentially inventing most modern technology, there are also new faces in the CNA and the USM, such as the idealistic automobile mogul Owen Galloway and the histrionic liberal governor Richard Mason, the nepotistic narcissist Benito Hermíon, as well as the [[MagnificentBastard bastardy]] CorruptCorporateExecutive Bernard Kramer who leads his company Kramer Associates in attaining dizzying heights of power. Throughout this entire book, one finds that two hundred years of history becomes a lot more interesting when you don't know what happens next.

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Although historical figures factor heavily in the beginning, such as ThomasEdison UsefulNotes/ThomasEdison essentially inventing most modern technology, there are also new faces in the CNA and the USM, such as the idealistic automobile mogul Owen Galloway and the histrionic liberal governor Richard Mason, the nepotistic narcissist Benito Hermíon, as well as the [[MagnificentBastard bastardy]] CorruptCorporateExecutive Bernard Kramer who leads his company Kramer Associates in attaining dizzying heights of power. Throughout this entire book, one finds that two hundred years of history becomes a lot more interesting when you don't know what happens next.
16th Sep '17 4:10:51 PM nombretomado
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* ThomasEdison: A more prolific inventor in this universe.
6th Nov '16 10:20:26 AM Xtifr
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Added DiffLines:

* AmericaIsStillAColony: The point of divergence is the Battle of Saratoga, which ends in a British victory. Shortly thereafter a peace faction gets control of Congress and ends the war with Great Britain. Some revolutionaries escape to form a new nation in Texas, while Britain's North American colonies are given dominion status in the 1830s.
12th Aug '16 8:11:55 PM nombretomado
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* InsistentTerminology: It's the "North American Rebellion", not the AmericanRevolution.

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* InsistentTerminology: It's the "North American Rebellion", not the AmericanRevolution.UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution.
15th Jul '16 7:06:15 PM ZimFan89
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* FictionalPoliticalParty: For the CNA there was or is the (Unified) Liberals, the (National) Conservatives, and the People's Coalition. Meanwhile the USM has the Continentalist, Liberty, United Mexican and Progressive parties, with divergent periods of mainstream establishment due to the chaotic politics of the country.

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* FictionalPoliticalParty: For the CNA there was or is the (Unified) Liberals, the (National) Conservatives, and the People's Coalition. Coalition, and the Peace and Justice Party. Meanwhile the USM has the Continentalist, Liberty, United Mexican and Progressive parties, parties (and very briefly, the Worker's Coalition, which turned guerrilla), with divergent periods of mainstream establishment due to the chaotic politics of the country.
5th Jul '16 5:04:36 PM nombretomado
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The PointOfDivergence is the arrival of reinforcements for British General Horatio Gates during the Battle of Saratoga, which turns the tide of the American Revolutionary War to the favor of the United Kingdom, which then stamps out the rebellion. Afterward, the colonies are reorganized into the more centralized and autonomous Confederation of North America (CNA), while thousands of revolutionaries that weren't executed or imprisoned sojourn westward, founding the nation of Jefferson in the place Texas would have been. Under the charismatic yet steady leadership of AndrewJackson, it unifies with the neighboring Republic of Mexico to create the United States of Mexico (USM) in 1820. The new republic is soon embroiled in a continental power struggle with the Confederation of North America.

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The PointOfDivergence is the arrival of reinforcements for British General Horatio Gates during the Battle of Saratoga, which turns the tide of the American Revolutionary War to the favor of the United Kingdom, which then stamps out the rebellion. Afterward, the colonies are reorganized into the more centralized and autonomous Confederation of North America (CNA), while thousands of revolutionaries that weren't executed or imprisoned sojourn westward, founding the nation of Jefferson in the place Texas would have been. Under the charismatic yet steady leadership of AndrewJackson, UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson, it unifies with the neighboring Republic of Mexico to create the United States of Mexico (USM) in 1820. The new republic is soon embroiled in a continental power struggle with the Confederation of North America.



* AndrewJackson: The first president of the United States of Mexico.
21st May '16 3:49:14 PM Doug86
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''For Want of a Nail: If Burgoyne Had Won at Saratoga'' by economic historian Robert Sobel is a 1973 AlternateHistory textbook that details the counterfactual trials and tribulations of the North American continent from 1763 to 1971. It's considered a TropeCodifier, if not the TropeMaker, of more hard-nosed approaches to alternate history that move away from the outlandish geopolitical shenanigans in works like ''Literature/TheManInTheHighCastle'' [[note]]where Nazi Germany has filled in the Mediterranean and split the United States with Japan[[/note]] or ''Literature/BringTheJubilee'' [[note]]a book that features a Confederate States of America that took over all of the nations south of it[[/note]]. The book eschews any conventional fictional story, and embraces alternate history for its own sake, serving as an inspiration for writing communities like AlternateHistoryDotCom (which is especially evident from the [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010312172615/http://www.alternatehistory.com/gateway/reviews/FWOAN-review.html glowing review]] it received from Ian the Admin, the site's founder.) The book also won the Sidewise Award for Alternate History (Special Achievement category) in 1997.

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''For Want of a Nail: If Burgoyne Had Won at Saratoga'' by economic historian Robert Sobel is a 1973 AlternateHistory textbook that details the counterfactual trials and tribulations of the North American continent from 1763 to 1971. It's considered a TropeCodifier, if not the TropeMaker, of more hard-nosed approaches to alternate history that move away from the outlandish geopolitical shenanigans in works like ''Literature/TheManInTheHighCastle'' [[note]]where Nazi Germany has filled in the Mediterranean and split the United States with Japan[[/note]] or ''Literature/BringTheJubilee'' [[note]]a book that features a Confederate States of America that took over all of the nations south of it[[/note]]. The book eschews any conventional fictional story, and embraces alternate history for its own sake, serving as an inspiration for writing communities like AlternateHistoryDotCom Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom (which is especially evident from the [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010312172615/http://www.alternatehistory.com/gateway/reviews/FWOAN-review.html glowing review]] it received from Ian the Admin, the site's founder.) The book also won the Sidewise Award for Alternate History (Special Achievement category) in 1997.
1st Nov '15 10:35:52 AM nombretomado
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* QueenVicky: Shows up in the timeline briefly.
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