History Literature / ForWantOfANail

1st Nov '15 10:35:52 AM nombretomado
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* QueenVicky: Shows up in the timeline briefly.
8th Jun '15 8:37:18 AM Morgenthaler
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''For Want of a Nail: If Burgoyne Had Won at Saratoga'' by economic historian Robert Sobel is a 1973 AlternateHistory textbook that details the counterfactual trials and tribulations of the North American continent from 1763 to 1971. It's considered a TropeCodifier, if not the TropeMaker, of more hard-nosed approaches to alternate history that move away from the outlandish geopolitical shenanigans in works like TheManInTheHighCastle [[note]]where Nazi Germany has filled in the Mediterranean and split the United States with Japan[[/note]] or ''Literature/BringTheJubilee'' [[note]]a book that features a Confederate States of America that took over all of the nations south of it[[/note]]. The book eschews any conventional fictional story, and embraces alternate history for its own sake, serving as an inspiration for writing communities like AlternateHistoryDotCom (which is especially evident from the [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010312172615/http://www.alternatehistory.com/gateway/reviews/FWOAN-review.html glowing review]] it received from Ian the Admin, the site's founder.) The book also won the Sidewise Award for Alternate History (Special Achievement category) in 1997.

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''For Want of a Nail: If Burgoyne Had Won at Saratoga'' by economic historian Robert Sobel is a 1973 AlternateHistory textbook that details the counterfactual trials and tribulations of the North American continent from 1763 to 1971. It's considered a TropeCodifier, if not the TropeMaker, of more hard-nosed approaches to alternate history that move away from the outlandish geopolitical shenanigans in works like TheManInTheHighCastle ''Literature/TheManInTheHighCastle'' [[note]]where Nazi Germany has filled in the Mediterranean and split the United States with Japan[[/note]] or ''Literature/BringTheJubilee'' [[note]]a book that features a Confederate States of America that took over all of the nations south of it[[/note]]. The book eschews any conventional fictional story, and embraces alternate history for its own sake, serving as an inspiration for writing communities like AlternateHistoryDotCom (which is especially evident from the [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010312172615/http://www.alternatehistory.com/gateway/reviews/FWOAN-review.html glowing review]] it received from Ian the Admin, the site's founder.) The book also won the Sidewise Award for Alternate History (Special Achievement category) in 1997.
30th Apr '15 11:33:28 AM LaStella
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''For Want of a Nail: If Burgoyne Had Won at Saratoga'' by economic historian Robert Sobel is a 1973 AlternateHistory textbook that details the counterfactual trials and tribulations of the North American continent from 1763 to 1971. It's considered a TropeCodifinier, if not the TropeMaker, of more hard-nosed approaches to alternate history that move away from the outlandish geopolitical shenanigans in works like TheManInTheHighCastle [[note]]where Nazi Germany has filled in the Mediterranean and split the United States with Japan[[/note]] or ''Literature/BringTheJubilee'' [[note]]a book that features a Confederate States of America that took over all of the nations south of it[[/note]]. The book eschews any conventional fictional story, and embraces alternate history for its own sake, serving as an inspiration for writing communities like AlternateHistoryDotCom (which is especially evident from the [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010312172615/http://www.alternatehistory.com/gateway/reviews/FWOAN-review.html glowing review]] it received from Ian the Admin, the site's founder.) The book also won the Sidewise Award for Alternate History (Special Achievement category) in 1997.

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''For Want of a Nail: If Burgoyne Had Won at Saratoga'' by economic historian Robert Sobel is a 1973 AlternateHistory textbook that details the counterfactual trials and tribulations of the North American continent from 1763 to 1971. It's considered a TropeCodifinier, TropeCodifier, if not the TropeMaker, of more hard-nosed approaches to alternate history that move away from the outlandish geopolitical shenanigans in works like TheManInTheHighCastle [[note]]where Nazi Germany has filled in the Mediterranean and split the United States with Japan[[/note]] or ''Literature/BringTheJubilee'' [[note]]a book that features a Confederate States of America that took over all of the nations south of it[[/note]]. The book eschews any conventional fictional story, and embraces alternate history for its own sake, serving as an inspiration for writing communities like AlternateHistoryDotCom (which is especially evident from the [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010312172615/http://www.alternatehistory.com/gateway/reviews/FWOAN-review.html glowing review]] it received from Ian the Admin, the site's founder.) The book also won the Sidewise Award for Alternate History (Special Achievement category) in 1997.
21st Apr '15 10:00:38 PM Emp
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''For Want of a Nail: If Burgoyne Had Won at Saratoga'' by economic historian Robert Sobel is a 1973 AlternateHistory textbook that details the counterfactual trials and tribulations of the North American continent from 1763 to 1971. It's considered a TropeCodifier, if not the TropeMaker, of more hard-nosed approaches to alternate history that move away from the outlandish geopolitical shenanigans in works like TheManInTheHighCastle [[note]]where Nazi Germany has filled in the Mediterranean and split the United States with Japan[[/note]] or ''Literature/BringTheJubilee'' [[note]]a book that features a Confederate States of America that took over all of the nations south of it[[/note]]. The book eschews any conventional fictional story, and embraces alternate history for its own sake, serving as an inspiration for writing communities like AlternateHistoryDotCom (which is especially evident from the [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010312172615/http://www.alternatehistory.com/gateway/reviews/FWOAN-review.html glowing review]] it received from Ian the Admin, the site's founder.) The book also won the Sidewise Award for Alternate History (Special Achievement category) in 1997.

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''For Want of a Nail: If Burgoyne Had Won at Saratoga'' by economic historian Robert Sobel is a 1973 AlternateHistory textbook that details the counterfactual trials and tribulations of the North American continent from 1763 to 1971. It's considered a TropeCodifier, TropeCodifinier, if not the TropeMaker, of more hard-nosed approaches to alternate history that move away from the outlandish geopolitical shenanigans in works like TheManInTheHighCastle [[note]]where Nazi Germany has filled in the Mediterranean and split the United States with Japan[[/note]] or ''Literature/BringTheJubilee'' [[note]]a book that features a Confederate States of America that took over all of the nations south of it[[/note]]. The book eschews any conventional fictional story, and embraces alternate history for its own sake, serving as an inspiration for writing communities like AlternateHistoryDotCom (which is especially evident from the [[http://web.archive.org/web/20010312172615/http://www.alternatehistory.com/gateway/reviews/FWOAN-review.html glowing review]] it received from Ian the Admin, the site's founder.) The book also won the Sidewise Award for Alternate History (Special Achievement category) in 1997.



* FictionalCounterpart: The United Workers of the World, compared to the RealLife International Workers of the World. The same also applies to the Confederation Bureau of Investigation.

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* FictionalCounterpart: The United Workers of the World, compared to the RealLife International Industrial Workers of the World. The same also applies to the Confederation Bureau of Investigation.
12th Feb '15 6:16:00 PM nitpickeryandsuch
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* FantasyWorldMap: There's a map in the frontispiece of the book, which makes it reminiscent in purpose and placement of this trope. (Seen here: [[http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130208010529/fwoan/images/b/b3/Sobel.jpg]].) Some fans regard it as dubious because a few details contradict those in the the book; at least one fan has gone to the trouble of making their own version ([[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OU9Nfqi6PdA/TPOsNYQRlxI/AAAAAAAAAPY/OQprzu_8eL0/s1600/FWOAN.png]].

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* FantasyWorldMap: There's a map in the frontispiece of the book, which makes it reminiscent in purpose and placement of this trope. (Seen here: [[http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130208010529/fwoan/images/b/b3/Sobel.jpg]].) jpg a map]] in the frontispiece of the book, which makes it reminiscent in purpose and placement of this trope. Some fans regard it as dubious because a few details contradict those in the the book; at least one fan has gone to the trouble of making their own version ([[http://1.[[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OU9Nfqi6PdA/TPOsNYQRlxI/AAAAAAAAAPY/OQprzu_8eL0/s1600/FWOAN.png]].png their own version]].
28th Oct '14 4:28:54 PM LongLiveHumour
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* MeaningfulName: [[spoiler: [[BenitoMussolini ''Benito'']] Hermíon.]]

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* MeaningfulName: [[spoiler: [[BenitoMussolini [[UsefulNotes/BenitoMussolini ''Benito'']] Hermíon.]]
17th Jul '14 10:45:49 PM Emp
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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: InUniverse accusations are lodged at the author for making the leaders of the United States of Mexico slightly more incompetent and immoral in comparison to the Confederation of North America.

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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: InUniverse accusations are lodged at the author for making the leaders of the United States of Mexico slightly more incompetent and immoral in comparison contrast to the Confederation of North America.


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** This is a case of RealityIsUnrealistic, as the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom ''can'' be impeached. Nonetheless, its [[BoringButPractical more practical and common to just hold a vote of no confidence.]]
10th May '14 10:53:58 AM LongLiveHumour
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* AmericaSavesTheDay: Subverted. Neither the Confederation of North America or the United States of Mexico does anything akin to the United States of America's entry into WorldWarI or WorldWarII, as the former mostly stays neutral and the latter is merely prone to opportunistic land grabs.
* AmericaTakesOverTheWorld: Although the book is centered on this region, it seems as though the equivalent of the ColdWar for this timeline takes place between two superpowers on the North American continent, perhaps even three if one counts [[MegaCorp Kramer Associates]] due to their Mexican origins.

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* AmericaSavesTheDay: Subverted. Neither the Confederation of North America or the United States of Mexico does anything akin to the United States of America's entry into WorldWarI UsefulNotes/WorldWarI or WorldWarII, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, as the former mostly stays neutral and the latter is merely prone to opportunistic land grabs.
* AmericaTakesOverTheWorld: Although the book is centered on this region, it seems as though the equivalent of the ColdWar UsefulNotes/ColdWar for this timeline takes place between two superpowers on the North American continent, perhaps even three if one counts [[MegaCorp Kramer Associates]] due to their Mexican origins.



* ColdWar: Has an analog in the "War Without War", which pits the CNA against the USM.

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* ColdWar: UsefulNotes/ColdWar: Has an analog in the "War Without War", which pits the CNA against the USM.



* FantasyConflictCounterpart: The Global War for WorldWarII and conditions similar to the Cold War are present in the rivalry between the CNA and the USM.

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* FantasyConflictCounterpart: The Global War for WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and conditions similar to the Cold War are present in the rivalry between the CNA and the USM.
28th Apr '14 3:14:30 PM LongLiveHumour
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* RebelLeader: GeorgeWashington is chief among them.

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* RebelLeader: GeorgeWashington UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington is chief among them.
16th Feb '14 9:52:44 AM Emp
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[[caption-width-right:335:The Confederacy of North America versus the United States of Mexico]]

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[[caption-width-right:335:The Confederacy Confederation of North America versus the United States of Mexico]]



The PointOfDivergence is the arrival of reinforcements for British General Horatio Gates during the Battle of Saratoga, which turns the tide of the American Revolutionary War to the favor of the United Kingdom, which then stamps out the rebellion. Afterward, the colonies are reorganized into the more centralized and autonomous Confederacy of North America (CNA), while thousands of revolutionaries that weren't executed or imprisoned sojourn westward, founding the nation of Jefferson in the place Texas would have been. Under the charismatic yet steady leadership of AndrewJackson, it unifies with the neighboring Republic of Mexico to create the United States of Mexico (USM) in 1820. The new republic is soon embroiled in a continental power struggle with the Confederacy of North America.

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The PointOfDivergence is the arrival of reinforcements for British General Horatio Gates during the Battle of Saratoga, which turns the tide of the American Revolutionary War to the favor of the United Kingdom, which then stamps out the rebellion. Afterward, the colonies are reorganized into the more centralized and autonomous Confederacy Confederation of North America (CNA), while thousands of revolutionaries that weren't executed or imprisoned sojourn westward, founding the nation of Jefferson in the place Texas would have been. Under the charismatic yet steady leadership of AndrewJackson, it unifies with the neighboring Republic of Mexico to create the United States of Mexico (USM) in 1820. The new republic is soon embroiled in a continental power struggle with the Confederacy Confederation of North America.



* AmericaSavesTheDay: Subverted. Neither the Confederacy of North America or the United States of Mexico does anything akin to the United States of America's entry into WorldWarI or WorldWarII, as the former mostly stays neutral and the latter is merely prone to opportunistic land grabs.

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* AmericaSavesTheDay: Subverted. Neither the Confederacy Confederation of North America or the United States of Mexico does anything akin to the United States of America's entry into WorldWarI or WorldWarII, as the former mostly stays neutral and the latter is merely prone to opportunistic land grabs.



* DividedStatesOfAmerica: The continental United States of America never comes to be, and thus what would have been its territory is divided between the Confederacy of North America and the United States of Mexico.

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* DividedStatesOfAmerica: The continental United States of America never comes to be, and thus what would have been its territory is divided between the Confederacy Confederation of North America and the United States of Mexico.



* {{Eagleland}}: The Confederacy of North America is mostly a Type 1, while the United States of Mexico falls hard into a Type 2.

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* {{Eagleland}}: The Confederacy Confederation of North America is mostly a Type 1, while the United States of Mexico falls hard into a Type 2.



* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: InUniverse accusations are lodged at the author for making the leaders of the United States of Mexico slightly more incompetent and immoral in comparison to the Confederacy of North America.

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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: InUniverse accusations are lodged at the author for making the leaders of the United States of Mexico slightly more incompetent and immoral in comparison to the Confederacy Confederation of North America.



* LiteraryAllusionTitle: In addition to the title of the RealLife book, the InUniverse name for it (''Scorpions in a Bottle'') is a reference to a speech made by Pedro Hermión about the continental rivalry between the Confederacy of North America and the United States of Mexico.

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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: In addition to the title of the RealLife book, the InUniverse name for it (''Scorpions in a Bottle'') is a reference to a speech made by Pedro Hermión about the continental rivalry between the Confederacy Confederation of North America and the United States of Mexico.



* OneFederationLimit: ''The Confederacy'' of North America and the ''United States'' of Mexico.

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* OneFederationLimit: ''The Confederacy'' Confederation'' of North America and the ''United States'' of Mexico.



* PerfectPacifistPeople: {{Downplayed}}, but the Confederacy of North America only fights one notable war in the two centuries of its existence.
* PleaseSelectNewCityName: Fort Pitt (and possibly all of Pittsburgh) is renamed Burgoyne, and becomes the capital of the Confederacy of North America.

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* PerfectPacifistPeople: {{Downplayed}}, but the Confederacy Confederation of North America only fights one notable war in the two centuries of its existence.
* PleaseSelectNewCityName: Fort Pitt (and possibly all of Pittsburgh) is renamed Burgoyne, and becomes the capital of the Confederacy Confederation of North America.



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: When they aren't being overly idealistic, the leaders of the Confederacy of North America tend to be this.

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: When they aren't being overly idealistic, the leaders of the Confederacy Confederation of North America tend to be this.



* TheFederation: The British Empire, primarily through the Confederacy of North America, is portrayed like this. It becomes only more so with the 1906 foundation of the United British Commonwealth of Nations.

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* TheFederation: The British Empire, primarily through the Confederacy Confederation of North America, is portrayed like this. It becomes only more so with the 1906 foundation of the United British Commonwealth of Nations.



* WrittenByTheWinners: The Confederacy of North America, as noted above, doesn't see the United States' founding fathers in a particularly favorable light.

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* WrittenByTheWinners: The Confederacy Confederation of North America, as noted above, doesn't see the United States' founding fathers in a particularly favorable light.
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