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15th Nov '17 12:32:58 AM BlueFox02
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* ''VideoGame/{{Furcadia}}'''s "Light Primes" are generally not nice. For example, Viveravus, the good god of colors and the twilight, literally tore Tallus to itsy bitsy pieces with his own two hands [[spoiler: in public, at Mycrofts of all places, regardless of what the game cannon says. Tallus did not even fight back, he just kept trying to defend himself against an unprovoked attack against an angry drunk god. This happened in front of a bar full of horrified mortals. He also threatened to attack said mortals]]. Also, meeting many of the light primes in person can be a shock [[spoiler: most of them are jerks. Aristaya, the goddess of good dreams, is a regal ice queen, M'rill the sun goddess is full of herself and will rob you blind, and Chim will challenge you to games at which you will almost certainly always loose. The rest of the gods can be even worse...]].

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* ''VideoGame/{{Furcadia}}'''s "Light Primes" are generally not nice. For example, Viveravus, the good god of colors and the twilight, literally tore Tallus to itsy bitsy pieces with his own two hands [[spoiler: in public, at Mycrofts of all places, regardless of what the game cannon canon says. Tallus did not even fight back, he just kept trying to defend himself against an unprovoked attack against an angry drunk god. This happened in front of a bar full of horrified mortals. He also threatened to attack said mortals]]. Also, meeting many of the light primes in person can be a shock [[spoiler: most of them are jerks. Aristaya, the goddess of good dreams, is a regal ice queen, M'rill the sun goddess is full of herself and will rob you blind, and Chim will challenge you to games at which you will almost certainly always loose.lose. The rest of the gods can be even worse...]].
4th Oct '17 10:45:56 AM Reymma
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* The Scarlet Crusade from ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', another Blizzard game, is comprised of paladins, priests and other "goodie" classes... who exterminate anyone they find because they believe that everyone has the plague of undeath now. And that's if you're lucky. The only thing worse than being tortured to death is [[FateWorseThanDeath being healed back to full health only to be tortured again]].
** Well, the brain behind the Scarlet Crusade is Balnazzar, a Dread Lord working on behalf of the Burning Legion. And then there is the highlord of the Crusade, who is an undead himself.
** Another example of non-good paladins are the blood elven paladin (AKA the Blood Knights), who derive their powers from a kidnapped being made of pure light.
*** Although later advances of the plot of ''Burning Crusade'' have seen the blood elves' former leader, Kael'thas, who was then in league with the BigBad, forcibly take the captured Naaru from his people and use it for his own nefarious purposes. The leader of the Blood Knights later pledged her warriors to stopping their former leader and were blessed with the Light by another Naaru.
** Said Crusade may have taken inspiration from Prince Arthas, who slaughtered a town in the name of the Light. Granted, said town was already infected with a virus to turn the villagers into zombies, but praying for a cure or something might've been a better idea. And it only gets worse from there until he claims Frostmourne at the cost of his soul and turns evil.
** This is literally the case for Forsaken (and all other undead)- the Light is not only excruciatingly painful for them to be exposed to but prolonged use will degrade the necromantic magics keeping dead men walking. This causes them to regain their senses- [[WorseThanItSounds which means tasting their rotting flesh, smelling their purile stench and feeling the maggots burrowing inside them]].
** There's also the val'kyr, servants of the Lich King, who look like stereotypical angels, but are, according to official description, "fearsome creatures made of pure nightmare."
** Playing a Paladin or Priest can go in this direction, with a slight variation to a holy spec (which means normally healing) and the right equipment they become devastating powers. The Priest is in a holy spec in the early levels far stronger in offensive. But in the higher level this changed with the new skill trees in patch 3.0 for the ''Wrath'' extension: the Shockadin (Paladin dealing damage with Holy Shock) is pretty dead and the Priest version (the Smiter) lacks in raid support compared to the Shadow Priest counterpart.
*** The Shadow spec for the Priest class. You may follow the Light and have the power to heal others, but your ''real'' talent lies in MindRape.
** Sir Zeliek. He's a paladin with phenomenal Light powers. And he serves the Lich King. Granted, he's [[PeoplePuppets a prisoner of his own body and the Lich King controls him like a puppet]], in battle he constantly begs for you to run and [[ApologeticAttacker asks for forgiveness when killing a player]], so he's a subversion of this trope.

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* The Scarlet Crusade from In ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', another Blizzard game, the Light is worshipped by adherents of many races who believe it to represent all that is good. However it is not itself good but rather amoral, an aspect shown during ''Legion'' when Xe'ra, the Prime Naaru and perhaps greatest representative of the Light, [[spoiler:tried to forcibly "redeem" Illidan despite his protests.]] Even Velen's faith was shaken by this questionable action.
** To have a connection with the Light, practitioners need to be convinced they are doing the right thing. This allows for evil Light users to exist, as long as they think they are good. The Scarlet Crusade is an example of this. They are
comprised of paladins, priests and other "goodie" classes... who exterminate anyone they find because they believe that everyone has the plague of undeath now. And that's if you're lucky. The only thing worse than being tortured to death is [[FateWorseThanDeath being healed back to full health only to be tortured again]].
** Well,
again]]. They are in fact being manipulated by the brain behind the Scarlet Crusade is Balnazzar, a Dread Lord working on behalf of the Burning Legion. And then there is the highlord of the Crusade, who is an undead himself.
Dreadlord Balnazzar.
** Another example of non-good paladins are the blood elven paladin (AKA the (the Blood Knights), who derive derived their powers from a kidnapped being made of pure light.
*** Although later advances of
light. At the plot end of ''Burning Crusade'' have seen the blood elves' former leader, Kael'thas, who was then in league with the BigBad, forcibly take the captured Naaru from his people and use it for his own nefarious purposes. The Crusade'', their leader of renounced Prince Kael'thas and his evil ways and obtained the Blood Knights later pledged her warriors to stopping their former leader and were blessed with the Light by blessing of another Naaru.
** Said Crusade may have taken inspiration from Prince Arthas, who slaughtered a town in the name of the Light. Granted, said town was already infected with a virus to turn the villagers into zombies, but praying for a cure or something might've been a better idea. And it only gets worse from there until he claims Frostmourne at the cost of his soul and turns evil.
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** This trope is literally the case for Forsaken (and all other undead)- the Light is not only excruciatingly painful for them to be exposed to but prolonged use will degrade the necromantic magics keeping dead men walking. This causes them to regain their senses- [[WorseThanItSounds which means tasting their rotting flesh, smelling their purile stench and feeling the maggots burrowing inside them]].
** There's also the val'kyr, servants ''Wrath of the Lich King, King'' introduced the Val'kyr, who look like stereotypical classical angels, but are, according to official description, are described in-game "fearsome creatures made of pure nightmare."
nightmare" and help the Lich King to raise undead minions. ''Legion'' redeemed them in part, revealing that many still served their original role of guiding the spirits of the dead to the god Odyn.
** Playing a Paladin or Priest can go in this direction, with a slight variation to a direction. The holy spec (which means normally healing) of both classes focuses on healing, but at various points in the game could be played offensively. Such paladins are known as "Shockadins" and were viable in the ''Burning Crusade'' era. And whereas priests are expected to do damage in a spec that uses sinister shadow magic, paladins do damage using light-based powers and the right equipment game often suggests they become devastating powers. The Priest is in a holy spec in the early levels far stronger in offensive. But in the higher level this changed are deranged fanatics with the new skill trees in patch 3.0 no time for the ''Wrath'' extension: the Shockadin (Paladin dealing damage with Holy Shock) is pretty dead and the Priest version (the Smiter) lacks in raid support compared to the Shadow Priest counterpart.
*** The Shadow spec for the Priest class. You may follow the Light and have the power to heal others, but your ''real'' talent lies in MindRape.
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** Sir Zeliek. He's Zeliek is a paladin with phenomenal Light powers. And he powers who serves the Lich King. Granted, he's Though he is also [[PeoplePuppets a prisoner of his own body and the Lich King controls him like a puppet]], in battle he constantly begs for you to run and [[ApologeticAttacker asks for forgiveness when killing a player]], so he's he is not a subversion straight example of this trope.



** Rukhmar the Sun Goddess's powers are LightIsNotGood while her ''appearance'' is straight up DarkIsEvil.
** Xe'ra, the Prime Naaru and perhaps greatest representative of the Light, tried to forcibly "redeem" Illidan despite his protests. Even Velen found Xe'ra's actions to be questionable.
** The Light itself is not good but rather amoral in the Warcraft universe. To have a connection with the Light, practitioners need to be convinced they are doing the right thing. This allows for evil Light users to exist, as long as they think they are good. The aforementioned Scarlet Crusade is an example of this.

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** Rukhmar the Sun Goddess's powers are LightIsNotGood while her ''appearance'' is straight up DarkIsEvil.
** Xe'ra, the Prime Naaru and perhaps greatest representative of the Light, tried to forcibly "redeem" Illidan despite his protests. Even Velen found Xe'ra's actions to be questionable.
** The Light itself is not good but rather amoral in the Warcraft universe. To have a connection
associated with the Light, practitioners need to be convinced they are doing rays of the right thing. This allows for evil Light users to exist, as long as they think they are good. The aforementioned Scarlet Crusade sun, though her appearance is an example of this.much darker.
18th Sep '17 10:01:53 PM TSBasilisk
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** Xe'ra, the Prime Naaru and perhaps greatest representative of the Light, tried to forcibly "redeem" Illidan despite his protests. Even Velen found Xe'ra's actions to be questionable.
6th Sep '17 11:06:12 AM BeerBaron
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*** The Golden Saints (Aureal in their own language) are employed as enforcers by Sheogorath, [[MadGod the Daedric Prince of Madness]]. While they aren't outright evil, they [[{{Jerkass}} frown upon mortals as unworthy]] and are a lot less sympathetic than their counterparts, [[DarkIsNotEvil the Dark Seducers]].

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*** The Golden Saints (Aureal in their own language) are employed as enforcers by Sheogorath, [[MadGod the Daedric Prince of Madness]]. While they aren't outright evil, they [[{{Jerkass}} [[PunyEarthling frown upon mortals as unworthy]] and are a lot less sympathetic than their counterparts, [[DarkIsNotEvil the Dark Seducers]].Seducers]]. They also guard the bright and happy "Mania" side of the Shivering Isles.
24th Aug '17 10:25:29 AM BeerBaron
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*** The Aurorans in the ''Knights of the Nine'' expansion are the servants of Meridia, the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Prince]] of Life and Energy; in the game they have allied with one of her servants, Umaril, who seeks the downfall of [[SaintlyChurch The Nine Divines]].

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*** The Aurorans in In the ''Knights of the Nine'' expansion are the servants of expansion, Meridia, the a [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Prince]] of Life and Energy; in the game they have allied associated with one of her LifeEnergy, [[LightIsNotGood Light]], and [[ProudBeauty Beauty]], serves as the GreaterScopeVillain. Her [[OurDemonsAreDifferent lesser Daedra]] servants, Umaril, the Aurorans, act the muscle for [[BigBad Umaril the Unfeathered]], who seeks the downfall of [[SaintlyChurch The Nine Divines]].
21st Aug '17 7:27:57 AM BeerBaron
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*** The Aurorans in the ''Knights of the Nine'' expansion are the servants of Meridia, the Daedric Prince of Life and Energy; in the game they have allied with one of her servants, Umaril, who seeks the downfall of [[CrystalDragonJesus The Nine Divines]].

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*** The Aurorans in the ''Knights of the Nine'' expansion are the servants of Meridia, the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Prince Prince]] of Life and Energy; in the game they have allied with one of her servants, Umaril, who seeks the downfall of [[CrystalDragonJesus [[SaintlyChurch The Nine Divines]].


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*** Jyggalag, the Daedric Prince of [[ControlFreak Order]]. Despite his associations with order, light, and his [[TinTyrant shiny metal appearance]], he is a destructive deity who stops at nothing in an attempt to put the universe into his idea of "perfect order". In the backstory, he threatened the other ([[OrderVersusChaos chaotic-leaning]]) Daedric Princes so much that they [[IronicHell cursed him]] into [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis becoming his own antithesis]] - Sheogorath. At the end of every Era, Jyggalag is allowed to return to his true form in an [[EternalRecurrence event known as the Greymarch]]. During this time, he retakes and destroys the Shivering Isles (Sheogorath's and formerly his own [[EldritchLocation realm]]), only to return to the form of Sheogorath at the end. The main plot of the ''Shivering Isles'' expansion is about him trying to break this ViciousCycle once and for all.
5th Aug '17 5:50:45 PM TestyReindeer
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* In ''Videogame/{{Aragami}}'', In an Ancient Japan nation, Light Brotherhoods are evil, callous, merciless warriors, which light powers are forbidden. Light Adeptes killed parents from a girl named Yamiko which it lead her to anger, pain and vengence until she was trained by her adoptive father Hyu to use dark powers until she and partner friends were go to kill the murders until they killed her partners, which had led her used her powers with her anger and kill them and destroyed the city they lived. Which that lead her to became emperess of the shadow aligned Nisshoku and used her powers to destroy any Light Brotherhood and even any kind of Brotherhood and guild who aren't in their side, and used fear to ruled all over the land.

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* In ''Videogame/{{Aragami}}'', In an Ancient Japan nation, Light Brotherhoods are evil, callous, merciless warriors, which light powers are forbidden. Light Adeptes killed parents from a girl named Yamiko which it lead her to anger, pain and vengence until she was trained by her adoptive father Hyu Hyo to use dark powers until she and partner friends were go to kill the murders until they killed her partners, which had led her used her powers with her anger and kill them and destroyed the city they lived. Which that lead her to became emperess of the shadow aligned Nisshoku and used her powers to destroy any Light Brotherhood and even any kind of Brotherhood and guild who aren't in their side, and used fear to ruled all over the land.
5th Aug '17 5:25:02 PM TestyReindeer
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* In ''Videogame/{{Aragami}}'', In an Ancient Japan nation, Light Brotherhoods are evil, callous, merciless warriors, which light powers are forbidden. Light Adeptes killed parents from a girl named Yamiko which it lead her to anger, pain and vengence until she was trained by her adoptive father Hyu to use dark powers until she and partner friends were go to kill the murders until they killed her partners, which had led her used her powers with her anger and kill them and destroyed the city they lived. Which that lead her to became emperess of the shadow aligned Nisshoku and used her powers to destroy any Light Brotherhood and even any kind of Brotherhood and guild who aren't in their side, and used fear to ruled all over the lands.

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* In ''Videogame/{{Aragami}}'', In an Ancient Japan nation, Light Brotherhoods are evil, callous, merciless warriors, which light powers are forbidden. Light Adeptes killed parents from a girl named Yamiko which it lead her to anger, pain and vengence until she was trained by her adoptive father Hyu to use dark powers until she and partner friends were go to kill the murders until they killed her partners, which had led her used her powers with her anger and kill them and destroyed the city they lived. Which that lead her to became emperess of the shadow aligned Nisshoku and used her powers to destroy any Light Brotherhood and even any kind of Brotherhood and guild who aren't in their side, and used fear to ruled all over the lands.land.
5th Aug '17 5:22:44 PM TestyReindeer
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* In ''Videogame/{{Aragami}}'', In an Ancient Japan nation, Light Brotherhoods are evil, callous, merciless warriors, which light powers are forbidden. Light Adeptes killed parents from a girl named Yamiko which it lead her to anger, pain and vengance until she was trained by her adoptive father Hyu to use dark powers until she and partner friends were go to kill the murders until they killed her partners, which had led her used her powers with her anger and kill them and destroyed the city they lived. Which that lead her to became emperess of the shadow aligned Nisshoku and used her powers to destroy any Light Brotherhood and even any kind of Brotherhood and guild who aren't in their side, and used fear to ruled all over the lands.

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* In ''Videogame/{{Aragami}}'', In an Ancient Japan nation, Light Brotherhoods are evil, callous, merciless warriors, which light powers are forbidden. Light Adeptes killed parents from a girl named Yamiko which it lead her to anger, pain and vengance vengence until she was trained by her adoptive father Hyu to use dark powers until she and partner friends were go to kill the murders until they killed her partners, which had led her used her powers with her anger and kill them and destroyed the city they lived. Which that lead her to became emperess of the shadow aligned Nisshoku and used her powers to destroy any Light Brotherhood and even any kind of Brotherhood and guild who aren't in their side, and used fear to ruled all over the lands.
5th Aug '17 5:19:43 PM TestyReindeer
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* In ''Videogame/{{Aragami}}'', In Ancient Japon nation, Light Brotherhoods are evil, callous, merciless warriors, which light powers are forbidden. Light Adeptes killed parents from a girl named Yamiko which it lead her to anger, pain and vengance until she was trained by her adoptive father Hyu to use dark powers until she and partner friends were go to kill the murders until they killed her partners, which had led her used her powers with her anger and kill them and destroyed the city they lived. Which that lead her to became emperess of the shadow aligned Nisshoku and used her powers to destroy any Light Brotherhood and even any kind of Brotherhood and guild who aren't in their side, and used fear to ruled all over the lands.

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* In ''Videogame/{{Aragami}}'', In an Ancient Japon Japan nation, Light Brotherhoods are evil, callous, merciless warriors, which light powers are forbidden. Light Adeptes killed parents from a girl named Yamiko which it lead her to anger, pain and vengance until she was trained by her adoptive father Hyu to use dark powers until she and partner friends were go to kill the murders until they killed her partners, which had led her used her powers with her anger and kill them and destroyed the city they lived. Which that lead her to became emperess of the shadow aligned Nisshoku and used her powers to destroy any Light Brotherhood and even any kind of Brotherhood and guild who aren't in their side, and used fear to ruled all over the lands.
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