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20th Apr '17 9:26:55 PM intastiel
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Runescape}}'', [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Commander]] [[http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Zilyana Zilyana]], one of the bosses in [[http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Gwd God Wars Dungeon]] hands down stands out in a setting were many characters suffer from BeliefMakesYouStupid with her utter [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalism]] and her God, Saradomin, in spite of being the god of Order and Wisdom, is at his best an ambiguous WellIntentionedExtremist and at his worst a tyrant who can be ''very'' cruel to those who offend his sense of pride. On the other hand most of the gods are prideful beings. Most of the negativity he gets in and out of universe is from people fed up with his HolierThanThou attitude and well...DoNotTauntCthulhu.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Runescape}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Runescape}}'':
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[[OurAngelsAreDifferent Commander]] [[http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Zilyana Zilyana]], one of the bosses in [[http://runescape.the[[http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Gwd God Wars Dungeon]] Dungeon]], hands down stands out in a setting were many characters suffer from BeliefMakesYouStupid with her utter [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalism]] and her fundamentalism]]. Her God, Saradomin, in spite of being the god of Order and Wisdom, is at his best an ambiguous WellIntentionedExtremist and at his worst a tyrant who can be ''very'' cruel to those who offend his sense of pride. On the other hand most of the gods are prideful beings. Most of the negativity he gets in and out of universe is from people fed up with his HolierThanThou attitude and well...DoNotTauntCthulhu. DoNotTauntCthulhu.
** The goddess Seren, embodiment of Light energy, draws direct parallels between her and her estranged {{Dark|IsNotEvil}} brother Zaros. While he inspires slavish loyalty, her nature forces people to love her, and:
---> ''"Love is just as deadly as an emotion as it is a wondrous one. Just as it can bring people together, it can also lead to unbearable pain and a complete loss of self. I do not blame him for wanting to escape that."''
19th Apr '17 3:59:39 PM jtierney50
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* The Institute of ''{{Fallout4}}'' is quite possibly the cleanest place in the Wasteland (which isn't really saying much, but even isolated places like the Lucky 38 and Vault 101 still have signs of deterioration). They also create intelligent life to be used as tools, kidnap people from the surface to experiment on, and more. Even their leader, Father, who [[spoiler:''is your son'']] is at best TrueNeutral, and holds [[spoiler:no affections for you and only freed you from the Vault to see what would happen]].
** Similarly, the Sanctuary from before the war is shown as an idyllic, 1950s-esque community. However, other games and lore sources have implied that the life in Sanctuary is either a facade or an outlier, and most of the country was already suffering from resource shortages and succumbing to riots when the bombs dropped.
13th Apr '17 6:25:48 AM AmateurTroper
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** In Persona 5, when you get the true ending, you'll face off [[spoiler: Yaldabaoth,]] a god described as being the manifestation of humanity's subconscious desire for order, warped to the point where he no longer cares for the human cost or morality of said order; in his view, humans are little more than livestock and lemmings for him to rule over and command due to their stupidity. He initially takes the form of the [[spoiler: Holy Grail, which starts off as black before the flow of wishes for him to dominate the world revitalize him and turn the cup gold.]] After [[spoiler: the flow is cut off and the Grail defeated, the cup]] merges with his arena to become a giant version of his Shadows, [[spoiler: a robotic, faceless angel]] who can manifest a golden gun, a church bell, a holy sword, and a bible book in each of his four arms. Extra spoils,[[spoiler: BigBad Satanael, the protagonists' ultimate Persona, finishes him with a Sinful Shell to his head.]]

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** In Persona 5, ''VideoGame/Persona5'', when you get the true ending, you'll face off [[spoiler: Yaldabaoth,]] a god described as being the manifestation of humanity's subconscious desire for order, warped to the point where he no longer cares for the human cost or morality of said order; in his view, humans are little more than livestock and lemmings for him to rule over and command due to their stupidity. He initially takes the form of the [[spoiler: Holy Grail, which starts off as black before the flow of wishes for him to dominate the world revitalize him and turn the cup gold.]] After [[spoiler: the flow is cut off and the Grail defeated, the cup]] merges with his arena to become a giant version of his Shadows, [[spoiler: a robotic, faceless angel]] who can manifest a golden gun, a church bell, a holy sword, and a bible book in each of his four arms. Extra spoils,[[spoiler: BigBad Satanael, the protagonists' ultimate Persona, finishes him with a Sinful Shell to his head.]]
13th Apr '17 6:24:01 AM AmateurTroper
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** In Persona 5, when you get the true ending, you'll face off [[spoiler: Yaldabaoth,]] a god described as being the manifestation of humanity's subconscious desire for order, warped to the point where he no longer cares for the human cost or morality of said order; in his view, humans are little more than livestock and lemmings for him to rule over and command due to their stupidity. He initially takes the form of the [[spoiler: Holy Grail, which starts off as black before the flow of wishes for him to dominate the world revitalize him and turn the cup gold.]] After [[spoiler: the flow is cut off and the Grail defeated, the cup]] merges with his arena to become a giant version of his Shadows, [[spoiler: a robotic, faceless angel]] who can manifest a golden gun, a church bell, a holy sword, and a bible book in each of his four arms. Extra spoils,[[spoiler: BigBad Satanael, the protagonists' ultimate Persona, finishes him with a Sinful Shell to his head.]]
5th Apr '17 8:30:25 AM BeerBaron
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* 2 examples from the [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Daedra]] in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion''. The Aurorans in ''Knights of the Nine'' are the servants of Meridia, the Daedra Lord of life and energy; in the game they have allied with one of her servants, Umaril, who seeks the downfall of [[CrystalDragonJesus The Nine Divines]]. The Golden Saints (Aureal in their own language) are employed as enforcers by Sheogorath the Madgod; while they aren't outright evil, they [[{{Jerkass}} frown upon mortals as unworthy]] and are a lot less sympathetic than their counterparts, [[DarkIsNotEvil the Dark Seducers]].
** That said, the man who opposed the Aurorans and Umaril was Pelinal Whitestrake who is as insanely genocidal as Umaril was.
** The [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Thalmor]] soldiers in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' wear the standard golden Elven Armor. There's also the part of the Twilight Sepulcher dungeon where you have to maneuver through an area illuminated only be several braziers without actually getting too close to them, as they will burn you to death if you do.
** The [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] used a lot of shiny gold-like metal and glowing jewels in their technology, armour, weaponry, and architecture. They were also total psychopaths. AbusivePrecursors 101.

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* 2 examples from ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
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the [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Daedra]] {{backstory}}, the creations of the [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] used a lot of gold and bronze colors, along with glowing jewels and enchantments in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion''. their {{Magitek}} SteamPunk technology. They were also {{Naytheist}}s who would [[LoopholeAbuse bend the laws of nature and physics]] in order to [[RagnarokProofing make their creations last]], passed AbusivePrecursors 101 with flying colors, and caused their entire race to disappear without a trace by [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence attempting to tap into the power]] of the [[GodIsDead Heart of the "dead" god Lorkhan]].
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', [[PhysicalGod Tribunal deity]] Almalexia is frequently associated with light. Her CatchPhrase is "come, bask in the light of my mercy" and her home city of Mournhold is known as "the City of Light, City of Magic." [[spoiler:As the {{Face Heel Turn}}ed BigBad of the ''Tribunal'' expansion, she shows that she is definitely ''not'' good]].
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'':
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The Aurorans in the ''Knights of the Nine'' expansion are the servants of Meridia, the Daedra Lord Daedric Prince of life Life and energy; Energy; in the game they have allied with one of her servants, Umaril, who seeks the downfall of [[CrystalDragonJesus The Nine Divines]]. Divines]].
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The Golden Saints (Aureal in their own language) are employed as enforcers by Sheogorath Sheogorath, [[MadGod the Madgod; while Daedric Prince of Madness]]. While they aren't outright evil, they [[{{Jerkass}} frown upon mortals as unworthy]] and are a lot less sympathetic than their counterparts, [[DarkIsNotEvil the Dark Seducers]].
** That said, the man who opposed the Aurorans and Umaril was Pelinal Whitestrake who is as insanely genocidal as Umaril was.
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In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', The [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Thalmor]] soldiers in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' in wear the standard golden Elven Armor. There's also the part of the Twilight Sepulcher dungeon where you have to maneuver through an area illuminated only be several braziers without actually getting too close to them, as they will burn you to death if you do.
** The [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] used a lot of shiny gold-like metal and glowing jewels in their technology, armour, weaponry, and architecture. They were also total psychopaths. AbusivePrecursors 101.
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2nd Apr '17 4:19:01 PM nombretomado
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** A similar theme occurs in PhantasyStarUniverse, only taking the light from aloof to outright evil. The Ancients, who have represented the light element, and directly opposed to the darkness of SEED are eventually revealed to have been, with some exceptions, a race of tremendous jerkasses lead by a man so incredibly twisted it's implied he [[MoralEventHorizon raped and killed one of his (many) wives]] who view current humans as nothing more than vessels for their resurrection. To illustrate the point further, this leader styles himself as "the Sun King."

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** A similar theme occurs in PhantasyStarUniverse, ''VideoGame/PhantasyStarUniverse'', only taking the light from aloof to outright evil. The Ancients, who have represented the light element, and directly opposed to the darkness of SEED are eventually revealed to have been, with some exceptions, a race of tremendous jerkasses lead by a man so incredibly twisted it's implied he [[MoralEventHorizon raped and killed one of his (many) wives]] who view current humans as nothing more than vessels for their resurrection. To illustrate the point further, this leader styles himself as "the Sun King."
21st Mar '17 9:07:43 AM madammina
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** Master Eraqus from Birth By Sleep starts off with shades of KnightTemplar. It gets worse, but by the time 0.2 rolls around he MIGHT have become TheAtoner.
4th Mar '17 2:34:07 PM AetherMaster
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* ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'' has some enemies which are zombified priests, who use the same healing and support magic that the party's own priests can, too.
** Marcello, the half-brother of Angelo in ''VideoGame/DragonQuestVIII''' definitely exemplifies this trope when he fights against the party after obtaining Rhapthorne's sceptre. One of his attacks, Pearly Gates, even smites the party with holy light. There are also fallen priest monsters that are servants to the dark god Rhapthorne, some of whom can even fully heal and revive their fallen compatriots.
17th Feb '17 7:43:42 PM CyberController
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* In ''MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor'', it becomes very clear by the end that [[spoiler: the wraith Celebrimbor]] wanting to be the "Bright Lord" of Mordor(as opposed to Sauron's status as Dark Lord) is NOT a good thing. For all of his bright colors and intention of overthrowing Sauron, he's willing to mind control hundreds of Uruk-Hai (who scream in terror and despair as he does so), chastises Talion for his attachment to his murdered family and attempts to convince him to abandon his allies and love interest. Flashbacks reveal that he actually succeeded in [[spoiler: stealing the One Ring from Sauron]] and raised an army to fight him. He would have won except that the ring flew off his finger to return to its true master as he was about to strike the final blow. The finale reveals that he's going to try to [[spoiler: forge a new One Ring to destroy Sauron for good.]] He says this as [[spoiler: Talion's]] eyes turn orange with the reflection of the fires of Orodruin (Mount Doom), the same way that Sauron's eyes glowed orange in his elven body in the flashbacks.

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* In ''MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor'', ''VideoGame/MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor'', it becomes very clear by the end that [[spoiler: the wraith Celebrimbor]] wanting to be the "Bright Lord" of Mordor(as opposed to Sauron's status as Dark Lord) is NOT a good thing. For all of his bright colors and intention of overthrowing Sauron, he's willing to mind control hundreds of Uruk-Hai (who scream in terror and despair as he does so), chastises Talion for his attachment to his murdered family and attempts to convince him to abandon his allies and love interest. Flashbacks reveal that he actually succeeded in [[spoiler: stealing the One Ring from Sauron]] and raised an army to fight him. He would have won except that the ring flew off his finger to return to its true master as he was about to strike the final blow. The finale reveals that he's going to try to [[spoiler: forge a new One Ring to destroy Sauron for good.]] He says this as [[spoiler: Talion's]] eyes turn orange with the reflection of the fires of Orodruin (Mount Doom), the same way that Sauron's eyes glowed orange in his elven body in the flashbacks.
17th Feb '17 7:43:16 PM CyberController
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* Baten Kaitos Origins has an evil empire who tries to get rid of people's Wings of the Heart by attempting to build a glorious utopian artificial continent floating in the sky and destroying all the other natural floating continents. Thousands of years in the past, however, is an evil cultist who teaches his followers that their Wings of the Heart are the only things that truly matter. This eventually leads to a war where he can be seen draining energy from some corpses with his shadow dragon. You even fight him during the second phase of the final battle.
* In MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor, it becomes very clear by the end that [[spoiler: the wraith Celebrimbor]] wanting to be the "Bright Lord" of Mordor(as opposed to Sauron's status as Dark Lord) is NOT a good thing. For all of his bright colors and intention of overthrowing Sauron, he's willing to mind control hundreds of Uruk-Hai (who scream in terror and despair as he does so), chastises Talion for his attachment to his murdered family and attempts to convince him to abandon his allies and love interest. Flashbacks reveal that he actually succeeded in [[spoiler: stealing the One Ring from Sauron]] and raised an army to fight him. He would have won except that the ring flew off his finger to return to its true master as he was about to strike the final blow. The finale reveals that he's going to try to [[spoiler: forge a new One Ring to destroy Sauron for good.]] He says this as [[spoiler: Talion's]] eyes turn orange with the reflection of the fires of Orodruin (Mount Doom), the same way that Sauron's eyes glowed orange in his elven body in the flashbacks.

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* Baten Kaitos Origins ''VideoGame/BatenKaitosOrigins'' has an evil empire who tries to get rid of people's Wings of the Heart by attempting to build a glorious utopian artificial continent floating in the sky and destroying all the other natural floating continents. Thousands of years in the past, however, is an evil cultist who teaches his followers that their Wings of the Heart are the only things that truly matter. This eventually leads to a war where he can be seen draining energy from some corpses with his shadow dragon. You even fight him during the second phase of the final battle.
* In MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor, ''MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor'', it becomes very clear by the end that [[spoiler: the wraith Celebrimbor]] wanting to be the "Bright Lord" of Mordor(as opposed to Sauron's status as Dark Lord) is NOT a good thing. For all of his bright colors and intention of overthrowing Sauron, he's willing to mind control hundreds of Uruk-Hai (who scream in terror and despair as he does so), chastises Talion for his attachment to his murdered family and attempts to convince him to abandon his allies and love interest. Flashbacks reveal that he actually succeeded in [[spoiler: stealing the One Ring from Sauron]] and raised an army to fight him. He would have won except that the ring flew off his finger to return to its true master as he was about to strike the final blow. The finale reveals that he's going to try to [[spoiler: forge a new One Ring to destroy Sauron for good.]] He says this as [[spoiler: Talion's]] eyes turn orange with the reflection of the fires of Orodruin (Mount Doom), the same way that Sauron's eyes glowed orange in his elven body in the flashbacks.
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