History KilledOffForReal / VideoGames

30th May '18 1:19:01 PM AlmasUnidas
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** ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' ties up the Solid story arc with ''lots'' of this. Big Boss, who was [[HesJustHiding just hiding]], is finally Killed Off for Real, as is Solidus. The same might safely be said for Ocelot but he's... [[MagnificentBastard well, you know]].

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** ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' ties up the Solid story arc with ''lots'' of this. Big Boss, who was [[HesJustHiding just hiding]], is finally Killed Off for Real, as is Solidus. The same might safely be said for Ocelot but he's... [[MagnificentBastard well, you know]].are Solidus and Ocelot.
15th May '18 12:31:00 PM ZoeyPosthuman
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* ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa'' has flip-flopped on this repeatedly. The first game almost everyone dead stays dead. The second game undoes the deaths of [[spoiler: Junko (via her AI) and Alter Ego (Chihiro's AI), only for them to both die for real again soon after.]] Meanwhile [[spoiler: none of the students that die in the second game are actually dead.]]

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* ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa'' ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' has flip-flopped on this repeatedly. The first game almost everyone dead stays dead. The second game undoes the deaths of [[spoiler: Junko (via her AI) and Alter Ego (Chihiro's AI), only for them to both die for real again soon after.]] Meanwhile [[spoiler: none of the students that die in the second game are actually dead.]]
15th May '18 12:30:42 PM ZoeyPosthuman
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* ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa'' has flip-flopped on this repeatedly. The first game almost everyone dead stays dead. The second game undoes the deaths of [[spoiler: Junko (via her AI) and Alter Ego (Chihiro's AI), only for them to both die for real again soon after.]] Meanwhile [[spoiler: none of the students that die in the second game are actually dead.]]
28th Mar '18 6:32:30 AM BeerBaron
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*** In the ''Knights of the Nine'' expansion, killing off Umaril the Unfeathered for real is a plot point. Due to a blessing by the Daedric Prince Meridia, he cannot truly be killed. (Even the legendary hero of mankind, [[EternalHero Pelinal]] [[GodInHumanForm Whitestrake]], was unable to truly kill him when they found during the 1st Era Alessian Revolt.) The Champion must recover and sanctify the Crusader's equipment (originally worn by Whitestrake) in order to have a chance to defeat him. Ultimately, it is the blessing of [[DeityOfHumanOrigin Talos]], which Whitestrake could note have gotten, that allows the Champion to kill off Umaril for real.

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*** In the ''Knights of the Nine'' expansion, killing off Umaril the Unfeathered for real is a plot point. Due to a blessing by the Daedric Prince Meridia, he cannot truly be killed. (Even the legendary hero of mankind, [[EternalHero Pelinal]] [[GodInHumanForm Whitestrake]], was unable to truly kill him when they found fought during the 1st Era Alessian Revolt.) The Champion must recover and sanctify the Crusader's equipment (originally worn by Whitestrake) in order to have a chance to defeat him. Ultimately, it is the blessing of [[DeityOfHumanOrigin Talos]], which Whitestrake could note not have gotten, that allows the Champion to kill off Umaril for real.
27th Mar '18 8:37:16 AM BeerBaron
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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series provides several examples of this. We won't be seeing much of the [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Tribunal]], [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Mankar Camoran]], or [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim the loser of the civil war questline]] ever again, for instance. Daedra avert this (they cannot be truly killed), as do "essential" [=NPCs=] from ''Oblivion'' onwards. It should also be noted that any NPC (save aforementioned "essential" [=NPCs=], who are merely knocked out by lethal force) killed by the player is this, and ''Morrowind'' will warn you that "The chain of prophecy has been broken" (translation: [[UnwinnableByDesign "Good luck completing the main quest now!"]]) should you manage to kill off, say, Caius Cosades, Vivec, or another important Main Quest figure.

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'':
** A notable exception throughout the
series provides several examples of this. We won't be seeing much of are the [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Tribunal]], [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Mankar Camoran]], or [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim the loser of the civil war questline]] ever again, for instance. Daedra avert this (they Daedra, who possess CompleteImmortality and cannot be truly killed), as die. While their physical manifestations can be slain, their spirits simply return to Oblivion to reform. In fact, in-universe scholars do "essential" [=NPCs=] from ''Oblivion'' onwards. It should also be noted that any NPC (save aforementioned "essential" [=NPCs=], who are merely knocked out by lethal force) killed by the player is this, and ''Morrowind'' will warn you that "The chain of prophecy not even like to use terms like "killed" or "slain" when referring to defeated Daedra, preferring "banished" instead. For example, [[DestroyerDeity Mehrunes Dagon]] has been broken" (translation: [[UnwinnableByDesign "Good luck completing banished at least three times (by [[PhysicalGod Almalexia]] in the backstory, by the Hero of Battlespire in ''Battlespire'', and by Martin/Akatosh in ''Oblivion'').
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'':
*** The end of
the main quest now!"]]) should you manage sees [[BigBad Dagoth Ur]] killed off for real. It's actually a plot point, as he's been defeated/slain before, but due to his connection to the [[CosmicKeystone Heart of Lorkhan]], he always comes back. Since he has cut the [[PhysicalGod Tribunal]] off from recharging their own divinity with the Heart, his power has waxed while their's has waned. By severing the enchantments on the Heart using the [[ArtifactOfDoom Tools of Kagrenac]], the [[PlayerCharacter Nerevarine]] cuts off both Dagoth Ur and the Tribunal from its power, allowing them to be permanently killed.
*** The ''Tribunal'' expansion sees Almalexia, one of the members of the Tribunal who has [[GoMadFromTheRevelation gone mad due to the loss of her divine power]], killed off for real. Before being killed herself, she has seemingly done this to fellow Tribune Sotha Sil as well. However, as later revealed in the prequel ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsOnline'', it is possible that Sotha Sil has [[BrainUploading uploaded his mind]] into his Clockwork City, so he may not truly be dead.
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'':
*** Within the first five minutes of the game, Emperor Uriel Septim VII (who has served as a BigGood and all around [[TheGoodKing Good King]] since the first game in the series) is assassinated by the [[ApocalypseCult Mythic Dawn]]. This act kicks off the Oblivion Crisis, the central conflict of the game's plot.
*** Near the end of the main quest, [[TheDragon Mankar]] [[TheHeavy Camoran]] is killed by the [[PlayerCharacter Champion of Cyrodiil]] and then his realm of Oblivion, Paradise, collapses in.
*** In the ''Knights of the Nine'' expansion, killing off Umaril the Unfeathered for real is a plot point. Due to a blessing by the Daedric Prince Meridia, he cannot truly be killed. (Even the legendary hero of mankind, [[EternalHero Pelinal]] [[GodInHumanForm Whitestrake]], was unable to truly kill him when they found during the 1st Era Alessian Revolt.) The Champion must recover and sanctify the Crusader's equipment (originally worn by Whitestrake) in order to have a chance to defeat him. Ultimately, it is the blessing of [[DeityOfHumanOrigin Talos]], which Whitestrake could note have gotten, that allows the Champion
to kill off, say, Caius Cosades, Vivec, or another important Main Quest figure.off Umaril for real.
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'':
*** The leader and chief lieutenant of the losing side in the CivilWar questline are killed off for real. For Ulfric, Galmar, and Rikke, their spirits can be encountered in [[WarriorHeaven Sovngarde]], confirming their deaths.
*** Emperor Titus Mede II is killed at the conclusion of the [[MurderInc Dark Brotherhood]] questline.
10th Mar '18 7:04:52 PM KingLyger
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* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'' concludes with the death of The Joker. Yes, even despite having JokerImmunity. Even Commissioner Gordon is stunned by the news. Creator/MarkHamill has since tweeted that he had a great time playing the Joker, but he won't be doing so anymore.

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* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'' concludes with the death of The Joker. Yes, even despite having JokerImmunity. Even Commissioner Gordon is stunned by the news. Creator/MarkHamill has since tweeted that he had a great time playing the Joker, but he won't be doing so anymore. ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' did bring the Joker back, but made it clear that Joker was just a hallucination inside of Batman's mind, and was canonically still dead.
4th Mar '18 2:00:58 PM Sammettik
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** Likewise in the ''Zero'' series, Phantom kicks the bucket in the first game yet no other Guardians, who always escape to lick their wounds and taunt you. Until Omega's [[AllThereInTheManual boss]] [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome explosion]] at the end of the third game wiped them out. Naturally, the ending is ambiguous about this and the fourth game doesn't even mention any of this once, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse or even the Guardians at all.]]



* Shandra Jerro in ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights2''.

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* %%* Shandra Jerro in ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights2''.



* ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClankFutureACrackInTime'' features an impressive deathcount of important characters: Alister Azimuth, Lord Vorselon, Cassiopeia, Carina and Libra. Orvus might be this case as well, but it is not officially stated.

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* ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClankFutureACrackInTime'' features an impressive deathcount of important characters: Alister Azimuth, Lord Vorselon, Cassiopeia, Carina and Libra. Orvus might be this case as well, but it is not officially stated.



* This happens to Harry Mason in ''VideoGame/SilentHill3''.

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* %%* This happens to Harry Mason in ''VideoGame/SilentHill3''.
16th Dec '17 6:33:57 PM DustSnitch
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** As of Cataclysm, still ''more'' {{N|onPlayerCharacter}}PCs have been Killed Off for Real. The one most likely to hit home? The Grimtotem clan took advantage of a duel to assassinate [[BadassGrandpa Cairne]] [[ALoadOfBull Bloodhoof]] and try to pin it on [[CreatorsPet Garrosh Hellscream]].

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** As of Cataclysm, still ''more'' {{N|onPlayerCharacter}}PCs have been Killed Off for Real. The one most likely to hit home? The Grimtotem clan took advantage of a duel to assassinate [[BadassGrandpa Cairne]] [[ALoadOfBull Cairne Bloodhoof]] and try to pin it on [[CreatorsPet Garrosh Hellscream]].
4th Dec '17 12:31:24 AM Anufenrir
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* While a few characters in the ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}}'' series have cheated death such as Medivh, many others have been Killed Off for Real. King Llane, Blackhand, Gul'dan, Anduin Lothar, Ogrim Doomhammer, King Terenas, Uther the Lightbringer, Grom Hellscream, Tichondrius, Mannoroth, and Archimonde from the RTS games have all died in ways to show that they likely won't be coming back, even with all the resurrection and necromancy present in the series. Llane had his heart ripped out, Blackhand had his head cut off, Gul'dan was torn apart by demons, Lothar and Doomhammer both died on the battlefield (not the same battle), Terenas and Uther were both slain by Arthas with Frostmourne, Hellscream died in a HeroicSacrifice, Tichondrius was(presumably though he ''is'' a Dread Lord) permanently killed by Illidan after Illidan absorbed the Skull of Gul'dan's power, Mannoroth was killed by Hellscream's aforementioned HeroicSacrifice (and his ''skeleton'' has been made into a memorial dedicated to Hellscream), and Archimonde was ''disintegrated'' by the released power of the World Tree. And that's not even covering the characters permanently killed by the players in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''. Although Gul'dan's soul "lived on" within his skull.

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* While a few characters in the ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}}'' series have cheated death such as Medivh, many others have been Killed Off for Real. King Llane, Blackhand, Gul'dan, Anduin Lothar, Ogrim Doomhammer, King Terenas, Uther the Lightbringer, and Grom Hellscream, Tichondrius, Mannoroth, and Archimonde Hellscream from the RTS games have all died in ways to show that they likely won't be coming back, even with all the resurrection and necromancy present in the series. Llane had his heart ripped out, Blackhand had his head cut off, Gul'dan was torn apart by demons, Lothar and Doomhammer both died on the battlefield (not the same battle), Terenas and Uther were both slain by Arthas with Frostmourne, and Hellscream died in a HeroicSacrifice, Tichondrius was(presumably though he ''is'' a Dread Lord) permanently killed by Illidan after Illidan absorbed the Skull of Gul'dan's power, Mannoroth was killed by Hellscream's aforementioned HeroicSacrifice (and his ''skeleton'' has been made into a memorial dedicated to Hellscream), and Archimonde was ''disintegrated'' by the released power of the World Tree.HeroicSacrifice. And that's not even covering the characters permanently killed by the players in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''. Although Gul'dan's soul "lived on" within his skull.



** Spoke too soon on Arcchemonde. Since he wasn't killed in the Twisting Nether, he returns as the final boss of Warlords. He is then killed off for real when he is in fact fought in the nether.
** This trope gets played with in general with demons. It is stated outright that Demons can not truly die unless they are killed in the twisting nether, otherwise their soul returns to the nether (More specifically, Antorus the Burning Throne on Argus) to recuperate and wait for their body to reform. This law holds true until the player discovers that the Legion has been using the world soul of Argus to subvert this for any demon killed on the planet.

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** Spoke too soon on Arcchemonde. Since he Many demonic characters seemingly die off for good in the RTS, but we learn later that since their death wasn't killed in the Twisting Nether, he returns as the final boss of Warlords. He is then killed off for real when he is in fact fought in the nether.
** This trope gets played with in general with demons. It is stated outright that Demons can not truly die unless they are killed
in the twisting nether, otherwise their soul they can return. Manaroth, who was previously killed by Grom, returns in the Warlords of Dreanor opening, but gets killed by taking an iron star to the face. His skeleton is later revived and acts as the second to last boss of Hell Fire Citadel. As he is not killed off for good in the twisting nether, there is a chance at his return. The last boss, Archemonde, was thought to have been vaporized by wisps at the end of WCIII, is ultimately killed in the twisting nether (More specifically, Antorus (though this part of the Burning Throne fight only appears on Argus) to recuperate and wait Mythic difficulty), ending him for their body to reform. This law holds true until good.
** Legion sees
the player discovers death of Kil'jaden, Sargeras's right hand man. He is killed in the Nether right over Argus, making his death permanent.
** While it is stated many times before hand
that any demon that dies on Argus is gone for good as it is in the nether, we learn the Legion has been using subverting this with the planet's world soul of Argus soul, twisting and tormenting it to subvert this for any demon killed bring back demons into Antorus if they die on the planet.Argus.
4th Dec '17 12:21:16 AM Anufenrir
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** Spoke too soon on Arcchemonde. Since he wasn't killed in the Twisting Nether, he returns as the final boss of Warlords. He is then killed off for real when he is in fact fought in the nether.
** This trope gets played with in general with demons. It is stated outright that Demons can not truly die unless they are killed in the twisting nether, otherwise their soul returns to the nether (More specifically, Antorus the Burning Throne on Argus) to recuperate and wait for their body to reform. This law holds true until the player discovers that the Legion has been using the world soul of Argus to subvert this for any demon killed on the planet.
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