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21st Sep '16 10:16:50 AM erforce
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-->--'''Music/DaveGrohl''' [[http://timeoutchicago.com/music-nightlife/14873935/dave-grohl-of-foo-fighters-extended-interview-lollapalooza-2011 on]] ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocketwatch_(album) Pocketwatch]]''

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-->--'''Music/DaveGrohl''' -->-- '''Music/DaveGrohl''' [[http://timeoutchicago.com/music-nightlife/14873935/dave-grohl-of-foo-fighters-extended-interview-lollapalooza-2011 on]] ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocketwatch_(album) Pocketwatch]]''



* ''PN03'' never had an official OST release, and the one widely available soundtrack rip is missing the Mission 9 EscapeSequence music, which is [[WastedSong difficult to hear in-game]] due to the blaring klaxons.

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* ''PN03'' ''VideoGame/PN03'' never had an official OST release, and the one widely available soundtrack rip is missing the Mission 9 EscapeSequence music, which is [[WastedSong difficult to hear in-game]] due to the blaring klaxons.
16th Sep '16 8:45:18 AM OnGreenDolphinStreet
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* ''Sinatra Jobim'', the second collaboration between Music/FrankSinatra and Antonio Carlos Jobim, produced only a vinyl test pressing and 3,500 8-track tapes. When the release was cancelled (due to Sinatra having second doubts about the album's sales potential), Warner Bros. issued a recall to retailers. At least five tapes escaped the recall and are still out there, but [[http://www.8trackheaven.com/archive/sinatra.html they're ridiculously expensive.]] However, the complete track order of ''Sinatra Jobim'' was reproduced on 2010's ''Sinatra/Jobim: The Complete Reprise Recordings'' as tracks 11 through 20.

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* ''Sinatra Jobim'', the second collaboration between Music/FrankSinatra and Antonio Carlos Jobim, produced only a vinyl test pressing and 3,500 8-track tapes. When the release was cancelled (due to Sinatra having second doubts about the album's sales potential), Warner Bros. issued a recall to retailers. At least five tapes escaped the recall and are still out there, but [[http://www.8trackheaven.com/archive/sinatra.html they're ridiculously expensive.]] expensive]]. However, 7 of the 10 tracks were included on ''Sinatra & Company'' the next year and the complete track order of ''Sinatra Jobim'' was reproduced on 2010's ''Sinatra/Jobim: The Complete Reprise Recordings'' as tracks 11 through 20.
16th Sep '16 8:42:03 AM OnGreenDolphinStreet
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* ''Sinatra Jobim'', the second collaboration between Music/FrankSinatra and Antonio Carlos Jobim, produced only a vinyl test pressing and 3,500 8-track tapes. When the collaboration fell apart, Warner Bros. issued a recall to retailers. At least five tapes escaped the recall and are still out there, but [[http://www.8trackheaven.com/archive/sinatra.html they're ridiculously expensive.]] However, the complete track order of ''Sinatra Jobim'' was reproduced on 2010's ''Sinatra/Jobim: The Complete Reprise Recordings'' as tracks 11 through 20.

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* ''Sinatra Jobim'', the second collaboration between Music/FrankSinatra and Antonio Carlos Jobim, produced only a vinyl test pressing and 3,500 8-track tapes. When the collaboration fell apart, release was cancelled (due to Sinatra having second doubts about the album's sales potential), Warner Bros. issued a recall to retailers. At least five tapes escaped the recall and are still out there, but [[http://www.8trackheaven.com/archive/sinatra.html they're ridiculously expensive.]] However, the complete track order of ''Sinatra Jobim'' was reproduced on 2010's ''Sinatra/Jobim: The Complete Reprise Recordings'' as tracks 11 through 20.
15th Sep '16 7:13:52 PM thelivingtoad
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* Most {{Shoegazing}} bands suffered this after the end of the fad. With the exception of Music/MyBloodyValentine, Music/CatherineWheel, Music/{{Ride}} and Music/{{Slowdive}}, many of the bands' albums went out of print. This wouldn't be so bad if the CultClassic status of the craze didn't raise new interest in this music. While some bands are relatively easy to find in used record stores (i.e. Music/{{Lush}}, Music/KitchensOfDistinction, Music/TheBooRadleys), some other artists (i.e. Lilys, Moose, Majesty Crush) are damn near impossible to find without paying an arm and a leg. Sometimes even ''when'' the recording is available via audio cassette or CD, it's in terrible condition and isn't even worth paying so much for.

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* Most {{Shoegazing}} bands suffered this after the end of the fad. With the exception of Music/MyBloodyValentine, Music/CatherineWheel, Music/{{Ride}} and Music/{{Slowdive}}, many of the bands' albums went out of print. This wouldn't be so bad if the CultClassic status of the craze didn't raise new interest in this music. While some bands like Music/{{Lush}} eventually got their albums reissued, and others are relatively easy to find in used record stores (i.e. Music/{{Lush}}, Music/KitchensOfDistinction, Music/TheBooRadleys), some other artists (i.e. Lilys, Moose, Majesty Crush) are damn near impossible to find without paying an arm and a leg. Sometimes even ''when'' the recording is available via audio cassette or CD, it's in terrible condition and isn't even worth paying so much for.
15th Sep '16 7:11:56 PM thelivingtoad
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* {{Pavement}}'s debut EP "Slay Tracks: 1933-1969" is looong out of print and is limited to 1000 self-released 7" records. Copies can fetch upwards of $300.

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* {{Pavement}}'s debut EP "Slay Tracks: 1933-1969" is looong out of print and is limited to 1000 self-released 7" records. Copies can fetch upwards of $300. Thankfully, every song on the EP is available on their compilation ''Westing (By Musket and Sextent)''.
15th Sep '16 7:10:05 PM thelivingtoad
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** The analog masters for their debut album were also lost for a time, with the singles that appear on their ''Absolute Garbage'' compilation being painstakingly remastered from a backup safety DAT recording. The masters were relocated in time for the album's 2015 reissue.



* Amy Dalley put out singles for Curb Records between 2003 and 2007. Even though three of them ("Love's Got an Attitude", "Men Don't Change", and "I Would Cry") made the mid-20s on the country charts which nearly any other label would consider reasonable enough for a debut single Curb Records never put out her album.

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* Amy Dalley put out singles for Curb Records between 2003 and 2007. Even though three of them ("Love's Got an Attitude", "Men Don't Change", and "I Would Cry") made the mid-20s on the country charts which nearly any other label would consider reasonable enough for a debut single Curb Records never put out her album.


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** Young finally reissued ''Time Fades Away'' in the mid-2010s: First exclusively through his Pono music service, and then a [[http://pitchfork.com/news/67560-neil-young-reissuing-time-fades-away-tonights-the-night-on-the-beach-zuma/ full fledged vinyl reissue]]
10th Sep '16 11:08:20 PM Furienna
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* Technical Death Metal Fans will forever scorn the day Music/{{Gorguts}} decided to release ''Obscura'' on an extremely limited run. After it's acclaim and success, the band ''never'' rereleased it on CD. In 2012, the band surprised everyone when they decided to reissue the album... ''on vinyl''. There aren't any rights issues, issues with the label, or even the band themselves, they just like the idea of one of their works being considered a priceless treasure. Copies from the album's printing cost anywhere from 73 dollars for a semi-damaged copy all the way up to 500 or 600-ish dollars for one in good condition. Your best bet is to look in really run-down record stores where many metal fans have found the album in a discount bin, the vendors usually unaware of the album's rarity and value. It is also available on iTunes, though only in 256 bit-rate. This is one of those albums where in order to really appreciate its complexity, you have to be able to hear it in either FLAC or 320.

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* Technical Death Metal Fans will forever scorn the day Music/{{Gorguts}} decided to release ''Obscura'' on an extremely limited run. After it's acclaim and success, the band ''never'' rereleased it on CD. In 2012, the band surprised everyone when they decided to reissue the album... ''on vinyl''. There aren't any rights issues, issues with the label, or even the band themselves, they just like the idea of one of their works being considered a priceless ml treasure. Copies from the album's printing cost anywhere from 73 dollars for a semi-damaged copy all the way up to 500 or 600-ish dollars for one in good condition. Your best bet is to look in really run-down record stores where many metal fans have found the album in a discount bin, the vendors usually unaware of the album's rarity and value. It is also available on iTunes, though only in 256 bit-rate. This is one of those albums where in order to really appreciate its complexity, you have to be able to hear it in either FLAC or 320.



** The biggest one was the ShortFilm ''[[Film/MichaelJacksonsGhosts Ghosts]]'' (1997) -- only VHS and Video CD releases exist, and those didn't even make it to North America (the best one could do was tape it from Creator/{{MTV}} or Creator/VH1 over 2001-02). The DVD box set ''does'' include the condensed version used to promote its title song. (It's possible that Jackson's estate is uncomfortable with the content, as the short is a blatant {{Allegory}} for the child molestation charges leveled at him in TheNineties, and such issues are the kind they and Jackson's fans would rather people forget about.)

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** The biggest one was the ShortFilm ''[[Film/MichaelJacksonsGhosts Ghosts]]'' (1997) -- only VHS and Video CD releases exist, and those didn't even make it to North America (the best one could do was tape it from Creator/{{MTV}} or Creator/VH1 over 2001-02). The DVD box set ''does'' include the condensed version used to promote its title song. (It's possible that Jackson's estate is uncomfortable with the content, as the short is a blatant {{Allegory}} for the child molestation charges leveled at him in TheNineties, and such issues are the kind they and Jackson's fans would rather people forget about.)
23rd Aug '16 5:02:54 PM gewunomox
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* As shown on the page quote, in 1992 a small label called Simple Machines issued a tape called ''Pocketwatch'', by Late! - who was actually DaveGrohl [[IAmTheBand on all instruments]] with a PunnyName ("because Im an idiot and I thought it would be funny to say to everybody, 'Sorry, were Late!"). As Music/{{Nirvana}} grew in popularity, the label became flooded with orders and the master cassettes started to deteriorate. Grohl also refused a request for a CD conversion to keep up with demand. Thus Simple Machines had to discontinue their project of music on cassettes... and ''Pocketwatch'' receives many bootlegs and highly priced auctions.

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* As shown on the page quote, in 1992 a small label called Simple Machines issued a tape called ''Pocketwatch'', by Late! - who was actually DaveGrohl Music/DaveGrohl [[IAmTheBand on all instruments]] with a PunnyName ("because Im an idiot and I thought it would be funny to say to everybody, 'Sorry, were Late!"). As Music/{{Nirvana}} grew in popularity, the label became flooded with orders and the master cassettes started to deteriorate. Grohl also refused a request for a CD conversion to keep up with demand. Thus Simple Machines had to discontinue their project of music on cassettes... and ''Pocketwatch'' receives many bootlegs and highly priced auctions.
8th Aug '16 5:53:54 PM tonagamu
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* Vinyl collectors often find this to be a massive annoyance. There's several factors that can make an album difficult to obtain on vinyl.
** First off is the obvious small-print run. When an album was released by a small-time artist that only released a limited number of copies, you can bet fans will scour as many resources they can just to find anyone who has a copy.
** Modern albums are usually not that difficult to get on vinyl... provided they were released before the resurgance of their popularity in the early to mid 2000s. If you're looking for an album during the height of CD popularity (circa 1992 to 2003) when vinyl was considered a dead medium, you'd be lucky if you can get a copy of an album if it even got a vinyl pressing to begin with. Sellers are aware of this and will often sell these records for nearly quadruple (or more) of the price that they originally purchased them for. Even worse is when buyers on Discogs find a gem for real cheap just to find that it may not even be fully playable based off of the item description.
** Older albums aren't much better. Buyers will find that many famous albums will get ample re-issues, but the downside is that they sometimes have remastered, sometimes inferior mixes. This leaves original pressings of albums by Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles and many others fetching prices of upwards of 30 dollars when in good condition, regardless of how common they are in the market.
** Sometimes an album that never got a vinyl release will finally get one... only for it to be a limited edition that will never again become available.
15th Jul '16 7:40:52 PM wolftickets1969
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* In Death It Ends' ''Gnosis'' was released exclusively via pre-order for 48 hours from March 14 to March 16, 2016, and the band has stated that it will never be available again. Likewise, the free digital single ''Obsculta'' was only available for two days in April 2016.
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