History JerkassWoobie / ComicBooks

27th Apr '17 12:03:58 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': Chief Judge Thomas Silver ruthlessly crushed the Democracy movement, and made an appalling number of bad decisions that ended in Necropolis, a nightmare that cost the lives of 60 million people. ''Return of the King'' makes him rather pitiable when we see the sheer magnitude of the suffering he went through at the hands of Judge Death and his cohorts, who turned him into a zombie pet so they could torment and humiliate him indefinitely, constantly reminding him about what they were doing to his city.

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Chief Judge Thomas Silver ruthlessly crushed the Democracy movement, and made an appalling number of bad decisions that ended in Necropolis, a nightmare that cost the lives of 60 million people. ''Return of the King'' makes him rather pitiable when we see the sheer magnitude of the suffering he went through at the hands of Judge Death and his cohorts, who turned him into a zombie pet so they could torment and humiliate him indefinitely, constantly reminding him about what they were doing to his city.city.
** ''Judge friggin' Fire'' actually managed to achieve this for a split second, who for the record is as much of a genocidal walking corpse as his brothers, who has actually burned alive hundreds of children in one day on the excuse of "noise pollution". In ''Dreams of Deadworld'' it's shown that he was in love/obsessed with a female Dark Judge who killed herself rather than submit to him. He just keeps staring at her skull for decades to relive the memory, [[MadnessMantra constantly reiterating]] that as a Dark Judge he shouldn't have feelings anymore.
4th Dec '16 11:30:29 AM troodos
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** David Cain is a tremendous asshole, whose treatment of his daughter easily crosses the MoralEventHorizon. Still, it's hard not to pity him when he tries so desperately to hold onto the only things he has left of her, the tapes he recorded of her training sessions, and spends most of his time when not being an assassin drinking and watching those tapes over and over, desperately trying to understand where he went wrong.
3rd Oct '16 8:16:01 PM BatmanKalEl
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* [[DependingOnTheWriter Sometimes]], Victor Von Doom falls in this trope. On the other hand, this is the guy who brought every bad thing that has ever happened to him down on his own head because he was too much of an arrogant prick to listen to Reed Richards' advice, opting instead to try to maliciously destroy the latter's life because he accidentally bruised Doom's ego by daring to be smarter than him. So he's crossed over the line to WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.

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* [[DependingOnTheWriter Sometimes]], [[ComicBook/DoctorDoom Victor Von Doom Doom]] falls in this trope. On the other hand, this is the guy who brought every bad thing that has ever happened to him down on his own head because he was too much of an arrogant prick to listen to Reed Richards' advice, opting instead to try to maliciously destroy the latter's life because he accidentally bruised Doom's ego by daring to be smarter than him. So he's crossed over the line to WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.
16th Sep '16 12:16:52 AM narm00
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* The Plutonian of ''ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}}''. Yes, he's an AxCrazy Franchise/{{Superman}} {{expy}} who [[EvilIsPetty takes as much enjoyment]] in his [[KickTheDog personal acts of evil]] as well as the [[MoralEventHorizon mass atrocities]]. But then you read through the flashbacks showing his ''deeply'' messed up childhood and the [[MyGreatestFailure incident that drove him]] to the edge and into villainy, and it's clear that even before he snapped he was '''very''' [[BrokenAce deeply broken inside]]. Not helping matters was the fact that [[FlyingBrick his powers]] made him [[[[BlessedWithSuck unable to really have a normal life]]. Not just that, but it's also shown that Plutonian, on some level, still wants to be a hero again and desperately wants to love and be loved, and yet his insanity makes him unable to really accept it.
** The spin-off series ''Incorruptable'' shows this to be the case for Max Damage, Plutonian's former ArchEnemy and [[HeelFaceTurn reformed supervillain]]. Much like Plutonian, his powers (which he'd gotten by paying a MadScientist to experiment on him because he realized being a low-level crook was useless with actual superheroes in the world) have made his life nearly unbearable, and his journey from bad guy to the BigGood is fraught with hardship and bumps that sometimes cause him to give up. And keeping with the 'jerkass' part, he's definitely not a nice guy at all, [[CharacterDevelopment though he does get better]].

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* The Plutonian of ''ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}}''. Yes, he's an AxCrazy Franchise/{{Superman}} {{expy}} who [[EvilIsPetty takes as much enjoyment]] in his [[KickTheDog personal acts of evil]] as well as the [[MoralEventHorizon mass atrocities]]. But then you read through the flashbacks showing his ''deeply'' messed up childhood and the [[MyGreatestFailure incident that drove him]] to the edge and into villainy, and it's clear that even before he snapped he was '''very''' [[BrokenAce deeply broken inside]]. Not helping matters was the fact that [[FlyingBrick his powers]] made him [[[[BlessedWithSuck [[BlessedWithSuck unable to really have a normal life]]. Not just that, but it's also shown that Plutonian, on some level, still wants to be a hero again and desperately wants to love and be loved, and yet his insanity makes him unable to really accept it.
** The spin-off series ''Incorruptable'' ''Incorruptible'' shows this to be the case for Max Damage, Plutonian's former ArchEnemy and [[HeelFaceTurn reformed supervillain]]. Much like Plutonian, his powers (which he'd gotten by paying a MadScientist to experiment on him because he realized being a low-level crook was useless with actual superheroes in the world) have made his life nearly unbearable, and his journey from bad guy to the BigGood is fraught with hardship and bumps that sometimes cause him to give up. And keeping with the 'jerkass' part, he's definitely not a nice guy at all, [[CharacterDevelopment though he does get better]].
7th Aug '16 10:09:52 AM nombretomado
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* Black Alice from TheDCU isn't a nice girl. At all. She's petty, cruel, ruthless, and she has a strong case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. Her moral compass isn't very good either -- she once sold out fellow magic users to demons in Hell in a bid to fix her own powers and she briefly teamed up with the Comicbook/SecretSix. On the Woobie side of things, her entire life has been one long TraumaCongaLine that started with discovering that her mother was a suicidal junkie after she found her body in their pool. Then she had to watch her father lose himself in alcohol and depression. Then her boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend. She was the victim of a particularly cruel scheme of Talia Al Ghul's. Her disastrous attempts to master the Helm of Fate nearly got her father killed. Her powers got nerfed when she got mind raped in Hell. Then [[spoiler: she accidentally gave her father cancer.]] The poor girl is a miserable person with an even more miserable life.

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* Black Alice from TheDCU Franchise/TheDCU isn't a nice girl. At all. She's petty, cruel, ruthless, and she has a strong case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. Her moral compass isn't very good either -- she once sold out fellow magic users to demons in Hell in a bid to fix her own powers and she briefly teamed up with the Comicbook/SecretSix. On the Woobie side of things, her entire life has been one long TraumaCongaLine that started with discovering that her mother was a suicidal junkie after she found her body in their pool. Then she had to watch her father lose himself in alcohol and depression. Then her boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend. She was the victim of a particularly cruel scheme of Talia Al Ghul's. Her disastrous attempts to master the Helm of Fate nearly got her father killed. Her powers got nerfed when she got mind raped in Hell. Then [[spoiler: she accidentally gave her father cancer.]] The poor girl is a miserable person with an even more miserable life.
9th Jul '16 10:39:20 PM Anddrix
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* Brian in Comic/KnightsOfTheDinnerTable. He's a ManipulativeBastard who regularly cheats, backstabs, and swindles his friends to get ahead. He's also a deeply insecure man who lost both his parents, has an unrequited crush on Sara, and tells people he has a 'beloved uncle' who takes him away on Thanksgiving when, in reality, he just goes down the the game store and plays in tournaments to pass the time. Whether he's a plain old JerkAss or a JerkWithAHeartOfGold is also possibly the single most [[BaseBreaker contentious subject among the fanbase.]]

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* Brian in Comic/KnightsOfTheDinnerTable. He's a ManipulativeBastard who regularly cheats, backstabs, and swindles his friends to get ahead. He's also a deeply insecure man who lost both his parents, has an unrequited crush on Sara, and tells people he has a 'beloved uncle' who takes him away on Thanksgiving when, in reality, he just goes down the the game store and plays in tournaments to pass the time. Whether he's a plain old JerkAss or a JerkWithAHeartOfGold is also possibly the single most [[BaseBreaker contentious subject among the fanbase.]]
18th Feb '16 10:35:59 AM Anddrix
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** Chrysalis appears so ragged and tired, not to mention edging against the DespairEventHorizon, that even the Mane Six feel sorry for her when they see her state. [[spoiler:We later learn that this was all a trap and it is one of her commanders disguised as her, but still, give the changelings credit for pulling off such a convincing ruse.]]

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** Chrysalis appears so ragged and tired, not to mention edging against the DespairEventHorizon, tired that even the Mane Six feel sorry for her when they see her state. [[spoiler:We later learn that this was all a trap and it is was really one of her commanders disguised as her, but still, one has to give the changelings credit for pulling off such a convincing ruse.]]ruse]].
23rd Jan '16 4:04:16 PM Manny20444
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31st Dec '15 6:09:45 PM Anddrix
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* DependingOnTheWriter but ''SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}}'' mostly qualifies. He's at best an untrustworthy jerk, at worst a villain bent on world domination, but has a lot of valid excuses like parental favouritism, mistreatment by the people of Asgard, and fate being a dick so feeling sorry for him is understandable.

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* DependingOnTheWriter but ''SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}}'' ''Loki'' mostly qualifies. He's at best an untrustworthy jerk, at worst a villain bent on world domination, but has a lot of valid excuses like parental favouritism, mistreatment by the people of Asgard, and fate being a dick so feeling sorry for him is understandable.
29th Dec '15 8:20:45 AM Anddrix
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* [[DependingOnTheWriter Sometimes]], [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Victor Von Doom]] falls in this trope. On the other hand, this is the guy who brought every bad thing that has ever happened to him down on his own head because he was too much of an arrogant prick to listen to Reed Richards' advice, opting instead to try to maliciously destroy the latter's life because he accidentally bruised Doom's ego by daring to be smarter than him. So he's crossed over the line to WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.

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* [[DependingOnTheWriter Sometimes]], [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Victor Von Doom]] Doom falls in this trope. On the other hand, this is the guy who brought every bad thing that has ever happened to him down on his own head because he was too much of an arrogant prick to listen to Reed Richards' advice, opting instead to try to maliciously destroy the latter's life because he accidentally bruised Doom's ego by daring to be smarter than him. So he's crossed over the line to WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.
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