History JerkassWoobie / ComicBooks

7th Aug '16 10:09:52 AM nombretomado
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* Black Alice from TheDCU isn't a nice girl. At all. She's petty, cruel, ruthless, and she has a strong case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. Her moral compass isn't very good either -- she once sold out fellow magic users to demons in Hell in a bid to fix her own powers and she briefly teamed up with the Comicbook/SecretSix. On the Woobie side of things, her entire life has been one long TraumaCongaLine that started with discovering that her mother was a suicidal junkie after she found her body in their pool. Then she had to watch her father lose himself in alcohol and depression. Then her boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend. She was the victim of a particularly cruel scheme of Talia Al Ghul's. Her disastrous attempts to master the Helm of Fate nearly got her father killed. Her powers got nerfed when she got mind raped in Hell. Then [[spoiler: she accidentally gave her father cancer.]] The poor girl is a miserable person with an even more miserable life.

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* Black Alice from TheDCU Franchise/TheDCU isn't a nice girl. At all. She's petty, cruel, ruthless, and she has a strong case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. Her moral compass isn't very good either -- she once sold out fellow magic users to demons in Hell in a bid to fix her own powers and she briefly teamed up with the Comicbook/SecretSix. On the Woobie side of things, her entire life has been one long TraumaCongaLine that started with discovering that her mother was a suicidal junkie after she found her body in their pool. Then she had to watch her father lose himself in alcohol and depression. Then her boyfriend cheated on her with her best friend. She was the victim of a particularly cruel scheme of Talia Al Ghul's. Her disastrous attempts to master the Helm of Fate nearly got her father killed. Her powers got nerfed when she got mind raped in Hell. Then [[spoiler: she accidentally gave her father cancer.]] The poor girl is a miserable person with an even more miserable life.
9th Jul '16 10:39:20 PM Anddrix
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* Brian in Comic/KnightsOfTheDinnerTable. He's a ManipulativeBastard who regularly cheats, backstabs, and swindles his friends to get ahead. He's also a deeply insecure man who lost both his parents, has an unrequited crush on Sara, and tells people he has a 'beloved uncle' who takes him away on Thanksgiving when, in reality, he just goes down the the game store and plays in tournaments to pass the time. Whether he's a plain old JerkAss or a JerkWithAHeartOfGold is also possibly the single most [[BaseBreaker contentious subject among the fanbase.]]

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* Brian in Comic/KnightsOfTheDinnerTable. He's a ManipulativeBastard who regularly cheats, backstabs, and swindles his friends to get ahead. He's also a deeply insecure man who lost both his parents, has an unrequited crush on Sara, and tells people he has a 'beloved uncle' who takes him away on Thanksgiving when, in reality, he just goes down the the game store and plays in tournaments to pass the time. Whether he's a plain old JerkAss or a JerkWithAHeartOfGold is also possibly the single most [[BaseBreaker contentious subject among the fanbase.]]
18th Feb '16 10:35:59 AM Anddrix
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** Chrysalis appears so ragged and tired, not to mention edging against the DespairEventHorizon, that even the Mane Six feel sorry for her when they see her state. [[spoiler:We later learn that this was all a trap and it is one of her commanders disguised as her, but still, give the changelings credit for pulling off such a convincing ruse.]]

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** Chrysalis appears so ragged and tired, not to mention edging against the DespairEventHorizon, tired that even the Mane Six feel sorry for her when they see her state. [[spoiler:We later learn that this was all a trap and it is was really one of her commanders disguised as her, but still, one has to give the changelings credit for pulling off such a convincing ruse.]]ruse]].
23rd Jan '16 4:04:16 PM Manny20444
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31st Dec '15 6:09:45 PM Anddrix
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* DependingOnTheWriter but ''SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}}'' mostly qualifies. He's at best an untrustworthy jerk, at worst a villain bent on world domination, but has a lot of valid excuses like parental favouritism, mistreatment by the people of Asgard, and fate being a dick so feeling sorry for him is understandable.

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* DependingOnTheWriter but ''SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}}'' ''Loki'' mostly qualifies. He's at best an untrustworthy jerk, at worst a villain bent on world domination, but has a lot of valid excuses like parental favouritism, mistreatment by the people of Asgard, and fate being a dick so feeling sorry for him is understandable.
29th Dec '15 8:20:45 AM Anddrix
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* [[DependingOnTheWriter Sometimes]], [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Victor Von Doom]] falls in this trope. On the other hand, this is the guy who brought every bad thing that has ever happened to him down on his own head because he was too much of an arrogant prick to listen to Reed Richards' advice, opting instead to try to maliciously destroy the latter's life because he accidentally bruised Doom's ego by daring to be smarter than him. So he's crossed over the line to WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.

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* [[DependingOnTheWriter Sometimes]], [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Victor Von Doom]] Doom falls in this trope. On the other hand, this is the guy who brought every bad thing that has ever happened to him down on his own head because he was too much of an arrogant prick to listen to Reed Richards' advice, opting instead to try to maliciously destroy the latter's life because he accidentally bruised Doom's ego by daring to be smarter than him. So he's crossed over the line to WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.
29th Nov '15 7:02:00 AM mlsmithca
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** Rorschach. He's a disgusting psychopath who falls somewhere in between AntiHero and AntiVillain, but his backstory combined with the awfulness of his entire existence just makes you feel immense pity for the guy. It's perfectly intentional that people should feel sorry for him -- unfortunately, some ''admire'' him and consider his nihilistic, absolutist worldview to be correct. Of course, YourMileageMayVary here: he's so smug and so physically dominating (seriously, it takes a whole squad of cops to bring him down) that it might be easier to want to see him [[BreakTheHaughty taken down a peg]].

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** Rorschach. He's a disgusting psychopath who falls somewhere in between AntiHero and AntiVillain, but his backstory combined with the awfulness of his entire existence just makes you feel immense pity for the guy. It's perfectly intentional that people should feel sorry for him -- unfortunately, some ''admire'' him and consider his nihilistic, absolutist worldview to be correct. Of course, YourMileageMayVary here: he's so smug and so physically dominating (seriously, it takes a whole squad of cops to bring him down) that it might be easier to want to see him [[BreakTheHaughty taken down a peg]].
28th Nov '15 11:38:45 PM 10-13-2
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** Rorschach. He's a disgusting psychopath who falls somewhere in between AntiHero and AntiVillain, but his backstory combined with the awfulness of his entire existence just makes you feel immense pity for the guy. It's perfectly intentional that people should feel sorry for him -- unfortunately, some ''admire'' him and consider his nihilistic, absolutist worldview to be correct.

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** Rorschach. He's a disgusting psychopath who falls somewhere in between AntiHero and AntiVillain, but his backstory combined with the awfulness of his entire existence just makes you feel immense pity for the guy. It's perfectly intentional that people should feel sorry for him -- unfortunately, some ''admire'' him and consider his nihilistic, absolutist worldview to be correct. Of course, YourMileageMayVary here: he's so smug and so physically dominating (seriously, it takes a whole squad of cops to bring him down) that it might be easier to want to see him [[BreakTheHaughty taken down a peg]].
27th Nov '15 4:35:43 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': Chief Judge Thomas Silver ruthlessly crushed the Democracy movement, and made an appalling number of bad decisions that ended in Necropolis, a nightmare that cost the lives of 60 million people. ''Return of the King'' makes him rather pitiable when we see the sheer magnitude of the suffering he went through at the hands of Judge Death and his cohorts, who turned him into a zombie pet so they could torment and humiliate him indefinately, constantly reminding him about what they were doing to his city.

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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': Chief Judge Thomas Silver ruthlessly crushed the Democracy movement, and made an appalling number of bad decisions that ended in Necropolis, a nightmare that cost the lives of 60 million people. ''Return of the King'' makes him rather pitiable when we see the sheer magnitude of the suffering he went through at the hands of Judge Death and his cohorts, who turned him into a zombie pet so they could torment and humiliate him indefinately, indefinitely, constantly reminding him about what they were doing to his city.
27th Nov '15 4:33:36 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': Chief Judge Thomas Silver has been responsible for violently suppressing democratic marches, and made an appalling number of bad calls that ended in Necropolis, a nightmare that cost the lives of 60 million people. ''Return of the King'' makes him rather pitiable when we see the sheer magnitude of the suffering he went through at the hands of Judge Death and his cohorts. They turned him into a zombie so his torment would never end, made him crawl and lick like a dog, constantly whispered into his ear to thank him for handing the Big Meg over to them, and had the possessed Judge Kraken rip out Silver's heart in front of him. Every day.

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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': Chief Judge Thomas Silver has been responsible for violently suppressing democratic marches, ruthlessly crushed the Democracy movement, and made an appalling number of bad calls decisions that ended in Necropolis, a nightmare that cost the lives of 60 million people. ''Return of the King'' makes him rather pitiable when we see the sheer magnitude of the suffering he went through at the hands of Judge Death and his cohorts. They cohorts, who turned him into a zombie pet so his they could torment would never end, made and humiliate him crawl and lick like a dog, indefinately, constantly whispered into reminding him about what they were doing to his ear to thank him for handing the Big Meg over to them, and had the possessed Judge Kraken rip out Silver's heart in front of him. Every day.city.
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