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*** When the Eorzean Alliance decides to go to Garlemald to help, the Garleans aren't as willing to listen and react with fear when they attempt to use healing magicks. It very much seems like a case of HonorBeforeReason, except the Eorzean Alliance ''is'' flat out invading and by [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything saying they want to save the people]], are [[NotHelpingYourCase not exactly helping their case]]. And while they ''do'' want to help and acknowledge that the citizens and individual people ''of'' Garlemald aren't to blame, [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome the Champion of Light is called out on having killed hundreds of Garlean citizens]] [[YouBastard without batting an eyelash]]. Thus, their mistrust of the Eorzeans if not flat out ''fear'' of the Warrior of Light is fairly understandable.
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*** When the Eorzean Alliance decides to go to Garlemald to help, the Garleans aren't as willing to listen and react with fear when they attempt to use healing magicks. It very much seems like a case of HonorBeforeReason, except the Eorzean Alliance ''is'' flat out invading and by [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything saying they want to save the people]], are [[NotHelpingYourCase not exactly helping their case]]. And while they ''do'' want to help and acknowledge that the citizens and individual people ''of'' Garlemald aren't to blame, [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome the Champion of Light is called out on having killed hundreds of Garlean citizens]] citizens [[YouBastard without batting an eyelash]]. Thus, their mistrust of the Eorzeans if not flat out ''fear'' of the Warrior of Light is fairly understandable.
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** In ''VideoGame/GodOfWarRagnarok'', [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Brok]] has a moment late in the game. Tyr reveals to the rest of the heroes that he knows a way to get to Asgard, resulting in Brok becoming immediately skeptical, harshly asking why Tyr never mentioned this until now, which Mimir says is a "fair question." Kratos then asks why Tyr withheld this information when Atreus was in Asgard, and Tyr explains that they needed to give "Loki"(Atreus' other name) time to figure out his destiny. The rest of the group appears to accept this explanation, but Brok continues to demand answers from Tyr, such as the particulars of how he plans to get to Asgard and why he's calling Atreus "Loki." [[spoiler:"Tyr" then snaps, stabs Brok and reveals himself as [[BigBad Odin]] in disguise.]]
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** In ''VideoGame/GodOfWarRagnarok'', ''VideoGame/GodOfWarRagnarok''
*** Shortly after Atreus meets Heimdall, the latter wastes no time in establishing that he's the biggest jerk in the game, who cannot resist insulting virtually anyone he talks with. During an elevator ride, Heimdall gives Atreus a scarily accurate TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, calling him out on [[WellDoneSonGuy desperately wanting to live up to his father Kratos]], being impulsive and arrogant, and coming to Asgard for his own selfish ulterior motives. Atreus can hardly defend himself, and has to admit that Heimdall had him figured out.
*** [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Brok]] has a moment late in the game. Tyr reveals to the rest of the heroes that he knows a way to get to Asgard, resulting in Brok becoming immediately skeptical, harshly asking why Tyr never mentioned this until now, which Mimir says is a "fair question." Kratos then asks why Tyr withheld this information when Atreus was in Asgard, and Tyr explains that they needed to give "Loki"(Atreus' other name) time to figure out his destiny. The rest of the group appears to accept this explanation, but Brok continues to demand answers from Tyr, such as the particulars of how he plans to get to Asgard and why he's calling Atreus "Loki." [[spoiler:"Tyr" then snaps, stabs Brok and reveals himself as [[BigBad Odin]] in disguise.]]
*** Shortly after Atreus meets Heimdall, the latter wastes no time in establishing that he's the biggest jerk in the game, who cannot resist insulting virtually anyone he talks with. During an elevator ride, Heimdall gives Atreus a scarily accurate TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, calling him out on [[WellDoneSonGuy desperately wanting to live up to his father Kratos]], being impulsive and arrogant, and coming to Asgard for his own selfish ulterior motives. Atreus can hardly defend himself, and has to admit that Heimdall had him figured out.
*** [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Brok]] has a moment late in the game. Tyr reveals to the rest of the heroes that he knows a way to get to Asgard, resulting in Brok becoming immediately skeptical, harshly asking why Tyr never mentioned this until now, which Mimir says is a "fair question." Kratos then asks why Tyr withheld this information when Atreus was in Asgard, and Tyr explains that they needed to give "Loki"(Atreus' other name) time to figure out his destiny. The rest of the group appears to accept this explanation, but Brok continues to demand answers from Tyr, such as the particulars of how he plans to get to Asgard and why he's calling Atreus "Loki." [[spoiler:"Tyr" then snaps, stabs Brok and reveals himself as [[BigBad Odin]] in disguise.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/ArmoredCoreVIFiresOfRubicon'', there is V.II Snail, a complete HateSink of a man who nonetheless does dish out some harsh truths throughout the game:
** While Snail’s [[InsufferableGenius attitude]] was awful towards Handler Walter during their first talk about 621, Snail did have a point that 621 had only destroyed Rubicon Liberation Front bases that were poorly guarded up to that point, thus Snail had no reason to believe 621 was capable of taking the heavily fortified base called “The Wall” from the RLF.
** During the “Hunt the Ice Worm” mission briefing, Snail decides to be one of the combatants to distract the Ice Worm, pointing out that “a rag tag team needs leadership.” Despite his snotty attitude like telling Chatty to his face that “because he’s an AI, he won’t fear death,” he does give solid advice like telling everyone to spread out so the Ice Worm would have greater difficulty attacking them. Furthermore, when G5 Iguazu acts astonished after 621 manages to temporarily knock out the Ice Worm for the first time, Snail reminds Iguazu that they “only jumped the first hurdle” and to remain focused, plus you’d be forgiven for agreeing with Snail upon Iguazu’s defeat that [[ButtMonkey he was pathetic]], mainly because of his whiny attitude the entire mission. Even G1 Michigan, Iguazu’s commander, only retorted that “Arquebus apparently sent someone to provide running commentary” rather than back up Iguazu.
** In the “Liberator of Rubicon” route, [[spoiler:Snail hates how Arquebus command told him to spare 621 after subduing them with a stun needle launcher, instead sending them to be [[BrainwashedAndCrazy “re-educated”]] by Arquebus rather than be [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim executed on the spot]]. As a result, upon being attacked by 621 on the Xylem colony ship, Snail realizes that the whole battle could’ve been avoided if he had executed 621 when he had the chance, thus Snail rants during the fight about “the dolts at command” having failed once again.]]
** While Snail’s [[InsufferableGenius attitude]] was awful towards Handler Walter during their first talk about 621, Snail did have a point that 621 had only destroyed Rubicon Liberation Front bases that were poorly guarded up to that point, thus Snail had no reason to believe 621 was capable of taking the heavily fortified base called “The Wall” from the RLF.
** During the “Hunt the Ice Worm” mission briefing, Snail decides to be one of the combatants to distract the Ice Worm, pointing out that “a rag tag team needs leadership.” Despite his snotty attitude like telling Chatty to his face that “because he’s an AI, he won’t fear death,” he does give solid advice like telling everyone to spread out so the Ice Worm would have greater difficulty attacking them. Furthermore, when G5 Iguazu acts astonished after 621 manages to temporarily knock out the Ice Worm for the first time, Snail reminds Iguazu that they “only jumped the first hurdle” and to remain focused, plus you’d be forgiven for agreeing with Snail upon Iguazu’s defeat that [[ButtMonkey he was pathetic]], mainly because of his whiny attitude the entire mission. Even G1 Michigan, Iguazu’s commander, only retorted that “Arquebus apparently sent someone to provide running commentary” rather than back up Iguazu.
** In the “Liberator of Rubicon” route, [[spoiler:Snail hates how Arquebus command told him to spare 621 after subduing them with a stun needle launcher, instead sending them to be [[BrainwashedAndCrazy “re-educated”]] by Arquebus rather than be [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim executed on the spot]]. As a result, upon being attacked by 621 on the Xylem colony ship, Snail realizes that the whole battle could’ve been avoided if he had executed 621 when he had the chance, thus Snail rants during the fight about “the dolts at command” having failed once again.]]
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* Unintentional example at the beginning of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'': Mido refuses to let Link see the Great Deku Tree until Link gets a sword and shield. While Mido was doing it just to be a pest to Link and bar his way like a schoolyard bully, the sword and shield do turn out to be necessary both to kill the Deku Babas on the way to the Great Deku Tree and to kill the enemies inside of the Great Deku Tree. This "point" is so good that even [[NiceGirl Saria]] agrees with it.
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** Unintentional example at the beginning of''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'': the game: Mido refuses to let Link see the Great Deku Tree until Link gets a sword and shield. While Mido was doing it just to be a pest to Link and bar his way like a schoolyard bully, the sword and shield do turn out to be necessary both to kill the Deku Babas on the way to the Great Deku Tree and to kill the enemies inside of the Great Deku Tree. This "point" is so good that even [[NiceGirl Saria]] agrees with it.
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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'': When Link reaches the end of the Earth Temple, Impa [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech chastises him]] for [[YouAreTooLate being so late to save a captive Zelda]] that she had to personally intervene, and tells him that he won't be able to meet her unless he picks up the slack. Link is not happy to hear any of this, but he doesn't argue either. Instead, he makes Impa eat her words at the Temple of Time when he [[spoiler:arrives just in time to save her from being killed by [[BigBad Ghirahim]], [[YouShallNotPass allowing her and Zelda to escape]] through the [[PortalToThePast Gate of Time]]]].
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** Still in the first game, Ashley Williams makes no secret that she distrusts aliens and, when pressed on it, clarifies that she doesn't hate them per se, but that each specie will ultimately prioritize their own survival over others' (likening to letting your beloved dog die to save your own skin when you both are chased by a predator: you may like your dog and hate doing it, but the dog ultimately isn't human), and that as such, relying on non-humans is risky and foolish. Comes the third game, and the Reapers invasion causes the galatic community to nearly collapse as every single specie focus on saving their worlds before others', and the entire game is spent trying to convince the races to work together for a common goal.
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** Still in the first game, Ashley Williams makes no secret that she distrusts aliens and, when pressed on it, clarifies that she doesn't hate them per se, but that each specie species will ultimately prioritize their own survival over others' (likening to letting your beloved dog die to save your own skin when you both are chased by a predator: you may like your dog and hate doing it, but the dog ultimately isn't human), and that as such, relying on non-humans is risky and foolish. Comes the third game, and the Reapers invasion causes the galatic community to nearly collapse as every single specie focus on saving their worlds before others', and the entire game is spent trying to convince the races to work together for a common goal.
