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12th Apr '17 11:54:34 AM mouschilight
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* Downplayed and a bit Justified in in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' whose eponymous main character is primarily BookDumb. Despite the fact that he is recognized at the bottom of his class, Naruto was capable of sneaking into the home of his village's leader, a wise and skilled ninja, and stealing a forbidden scroll, and learning a forbidden technique written on said scroll. He is capable, or "learns through his body" as Kakashi puts it. On the other hand, he is practically incapable of learning the basic techniques early on that all of his classmates learn. At one point, [[SealedEvilInACan it is inferred that the Tailed Beast inside of him]] is disrupting his anatomy, resulting in at least a few of his academic failings. Regardless, as to his personality, Naruto is still an overly spirited and loud-mouthed individual throughout the first half of the series.

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* Downplayed and a bit Justified in in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' whose eponymous main character is primarily BookDumb. Despite the fact that he is recognized at the bottom of his class, Naruto was capable of sneaking into the home of his village's leader, a wise and skilled ninja, and stealing a forbidden scroll, and learning a forbidden technique written on said scroll. He is capable, or "learns through his body" as Kakashi puts it. On the other hand, he is practically incapable of learning the basic techniques early on that all of his classmates learn. At one point, [[SealedEvilInACan it is inferred that the Tailed Beast inside of him]] is disrupting his anatomy, resulting in at least a few of his academic failings. Regardless, as to his personality, Naruto is still an overly spirited and loud-mouthed individual throughout the first half of the series.



* America from ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'' is the poster boy—er, nation—for this trope. He's a BigEater who is loud (occasionally considered annoying by the other characters and/or fans) and comes up with plans like "building a giant superhero to stop global warming." He is repeatedly told to "read the atmosphere," upon which he looks for it in a bookstore. A quote from the dub:

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* America from ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'' is the poster boy—er, nation—for nation—for this trope. He's a BigEater who is loud (occasionally considered annoying by the other characters and/or fans) and comes up with plans like "building a giant superhero to stop global warming." He is repeatedly told to "read the atmosphere," upon which he looks for it in a bookstore. A quote from the dub:
7th Apr '17 3:36:47 PM mouschilight
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* Downplayed and a bit justified in in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' whose eponymous main character is primarily BookDumb. Despite the fact that he is recognized at the bottom of his class, Naruto was capable of sneaking into the home of his village's leader, a wise and skilled ninja, and stealing a forbidden scroll, and learning a forbidden technique written on said scroll. He is capable, or "learns through his body" as Kakashi puts it. On the other hand, he is practically incapable of learning the basic techniques early on that all of his classmates learn. At one point, [[SealedEvilInACan it is inferred that the Tailed Beast inside of him]] is disrupting his anatomy, resulting in at least a few of his academic failings. Regardless, as to his personality, Naruto is still an overly spirited and loud-mouthed individual throughout the first half of the series.
** In ''Shippuden'', he gets a bit better at making strategies, to the point where his own sensei was surprised at getting caught off-guard by him. Naruto's newfound tactics cause most of his acquaintances and allies to marvel at how he's grown. Sakura, however, berates him from holding onto a perverted technique and believes that he still hasn't really matured. Due to this particularly unhappy childhood, Naruto is also rather good at relating or identifying with people who grew up in similarly negative ways ([[RivalTurnedEvil Sasuke]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Gaara]], and [[BirdsOfAFeather Hinata]] being the most notable examples), so something in his brain is definitely churning. He's also darn good at ShutUpHannibal speeches.

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* Downplayed and a bit justified Justified in in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' whose eponymous main character is primarily BookDumb. Despite the fact that he is recognized at the bottom of his class, Naruto was capable of sneaking into the home of his village's leader, a wise and skilled ninja, and stealing a forbidden scroll, and learning a forbidden technique written on said scroll. He is capable, or "learns through his body" as Kakashi puts it. On the other hand, he is practically incapable of learning the basic techniques early on that all of his classmates learn. At one point, [[SealedEvilInACan it is inferred that the Tailed Beast inside of him]] is disrupting his anatomy, resulting in at least a few of his academic failings. Regardless, as to his personality, Naruto is still an overly spirited and loud-mouthed individual throughout the first half of the series.
** In ''Shippuden'', he gets a bit better at making strategies, to the point where his own sensei was surprised at getting caught off-guard by him. Naruto's newfound tactics cause most of his acquaintances and allies to marvel at how he's grown. Sakura, however, berates him from holding onto a perverted technique and believes that he still hasn't really matured. Due to this particularly unhappy childhood, Naruto is also rather good at relating or identifying with people who grew up in similarly negative ways ([[RivalTurnedEvil Sasuke]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds ([[NotSoDifferent Sasuke, Gaara]], and [[BirdsOfAFeather Hinata]] being the most notable examples), so something in his brain is definitely churning. He's also darn good at ShutUpHannibal speeches.
7th Apr '17 3:19:50 PM mouschilight
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7th Apr '17 3:12:32 PM mouschilight
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** In ''Shippuden'', he gets a bit better at making strategies, to the point where his own sensei was surprised at getting caught off-guard by him. Naruto's newfound tactics cause most of his acquaintances and allies to marvel at how he's grown. Sakura, however, berates him from holding onto a perverted technique and believes that he still hasn't really matured. Due to this particularly unhappy childhood, Naruto is also rather good at relating or identifying with people who grew up in similarly negative ways, so something in his brain is definitely churning. He's also darn good at ShutUpHannibal speeches.

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** In ''Shippuden'', he gets a bit better at making strategies, to the point where his own sensei was surprised at getting caught off-guard by him. Naruto's newfound tactics cause most of his acquaintances and allies to marvel at how he's grown. Sakura, however, berates him from holding onto a perverted technique and believes that he still hasn't really matured. Due to this particularly unhappy childhood, Naruto is also rather good at relating or identifying with people who grew up in similarly negative ways, ways ([[RivalTurnedEvil Sasuke]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Gaara]], and [[BirdsOfAFeather Hinata]] being the most notable examples), so something in his brain is definitely churning. He's also darn good at ShutUpHannibal speeches.
21st Feb '17 10:26:31 PM SenorCornholio
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* Ash Ketchum from the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime, though how idiotic varied over the years. He arguably got smarter in regards to being a Pokémon Trainer, but dumber when it came to everything else. It doesn't help that the anime frequently seems to reset Ash's intelligence upon entering a new region. One supporting example of this is in the episode "Gotta Get a Gible!", where he and Pikachu attempt to make a jump from one side of a cliff to the other without noticing a bridge that Brock and Dawn use to make it across. To summarize: Ash was a total idiot when he started his journey, and then gradually matured over the course of the Original Series and Advanced generation series. During the Diamond and Pearl series he gets even better at Pokémon battling, but, as mentioned above, he gets less intelligent in all other regards. During the Best Wishes series, however, he hits the ResetButton very hard and actually becomes MORE of an idiot than when he started out. During the XY series, however, he regains his former maturity and intelligence with interest, and almost averts this trope completely.

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* Ash Ketchum from the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime, though how idiotic varied over the years. He arguably got smarter in regards to being a Pokémon Trainer, but dumber when it came to everything else. It doesn't help that the anime frequently seems to reset Ash's intelligence upon entering a new region. One supporting example of this is in the episode "Gotta Get a Gible!", where he and Pikachu attempt to make a jump from one side of a cliff to the other without noticing a bridge that Brock and Dawn use to make it across. To summarize: Ash was a total idiot when he started his journey, and then gradually matured over the course of the Original Series and Advanced generation series. During the Diamond and Pearl series he gets even better at Pokémon battling, but, as mentioned above, he gets less intelligent in all other regards. During the Best Wishes series, however, he hits the ResetButton very hard and actually becomes MORE of an idiot than when he started out. During the XY series, however, he regains his former maturity and intelligence with interest, and almost averts this trope completely. In Sun and Moon, he seems to hearken back do the Diamond and Pearl characterization of being amazing at Pokémon related matters, and dumb when it comes to everything else, however he's also more prone to AmusingInjuries.
6th Jan '17 9:12:52 AM flodoris
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** Obito is another example [[spoiler:before becoming [[BigBad Tobi]]]].
** Chapter 619 reveals that [[spoiler:First Hokage Senju Hashirama]] belongs here, perhaps more so than all the others mentioned earlier.

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** Obito is another example [[spoiler:before becoming [[BigBad [[spoiler:well, that is, [[DumbassNoMore before he became]] [[TheChessmaster Tobi]]]].
** Chapter 619 reveals that [[spoiler:First First Hokage Senju Hashirama]] Hashirama belongs here, perhaps more so than all the others mentioned earlier. earlier although his brother considers that Naruto still surpasses it in this.
30th Dec '16 2:39:00 AM BlacKat
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* This is how Yogi from ''Manga/{{Karneval}}'' can act before he starts battle. He's usually rather sunshiny and cheery as well.
18th Dec '16 11:22:52 AM Morgenthaler
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** His successor [[spoiler:and adoptive brother]] Tetsuya from ''Anime/GreatMazinger'' is another [[TheDeterminator determinator]] {{Badass}} and he is slightly more mature and less sexist than Kouji, but some of the stunts he pulls due to his pride, hardheadness, jealousy, obsessivity and unability to listen to good advice are mind-baffling. And then you have he can be a tactless jerk when he gets angry or upset, and it is not wonder how often he has been on the end of several Jun's {{Armor Piercing Slap}}s.

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** His successor [[spoiler:and adoptive brother]] Tetsuya from ''Anime/GreatMazinger'' is another [[TheDeterminator determinator]] {{Badass}} and he is slightly more mature and less sexist than Kouji, but some of the stunts he pulls due to his pride, hardheadness, jealousy, obsessivity and unability to listen to good advice are mind-baffling. And then you have he can be a tactless jerk when he gets angry or upset, and it is not wonder how often he has been on the end of several Jun's {{Armor Piercing Slap}}s.
10th Dec '16 6:18:11 AM Phoenixion
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* And before Toriyama has Goku, he has Arale of ''Manga/DoctorSlump'', since she's basically DistaffCounterpart to Kid Goku.
1st Aug '16 2:16:39 PM Willbyr
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* Kinniku Mantaro/Kid Muscle from ''Anime/KinnikumanNisei''.

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* Kinniku Mantaro/Kid Muscle from ''Anime/KinnikumanNisei''.''Anime/UltimateMuscle''.
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