History IdiotBall / WesternAnimation

9th Jul '16 2:21:23 AM Morgenthaler
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** Tygra in particular has no excuse since he's the second-oldest member of the team[[note]]Panthro's the oldest[[/note]] and he's supposed to be TheObiWan for Lion-O.
7th Jul '16 6:17:37 AM Morgenthaler
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** Iroh, usually TheObiWan, RetiredBadass and TheCaretaker in one, once almost killed himself by drinking tea made of the leaves of a perceived delicious tea plant that wasn't (well, he and Zuko desperate for food at the time). Followed by a small {{Find the Cure}} plot. (Though this may have been a bit of character exposition, meant to demonstrate exactly how much Iroh enjoys his tea.) However, this also could have been a BatmanGambit on his part. As up until then Zuko refused to go to a village for help, and Iroh did this to make him decide to go.

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** Iroh, usually TheObiWan, RetiredBadass and TheCaretaker in one, once almost killed himself by drinking tea made of the leaves of a perceived delicious tea plant that wasn't (well, he and Zuko desperate for food at the time). Followed by a small {{Find the Cure}} plot. (Though this may have been a bit of character exposition, meant to demonstrate exactly how much Iroh enjoys his tea.) However, this also could have been a BatmanGambit on his part. As up until then Zuko refused to go to a village for help, and Iroh did this to make him decide to go.
30th May '16 8:38:49 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Thrust is actually pretty smart in ''TransformersArmada'' when he first shows up. After several DeusExMachina-induced failures he starts spending a lot more time around the Idiot Ball, culminating in getting his rear kicked by ''human children''.

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* Thrust is actually pretty smart in ''TransformersArmada'' ''Anime/TransformersArmada'' when he first shows up. After several DeusExMachina-induced failures he starts spending a lot more time around the Idiot Ball, culminating in getting his rear kicked by ''human children''.
2nd May '16 9:16:46 PM KoopaKid17
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** The Cutie Mark Crusaders appeared to have held it when they were on the lookout for their cutie marks. Their talents hinted at by Twilight Sparkle in Season 1's "The Show Stoppers" but they tried for another four seasons to get them by doing other things. However, this turns out to be subverted when they finally get them in "Crusaders of the Lost Mark" since their symbols turned out to be different than what they expected.

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** The Cutie Mark Crusaders appeared to have held it when they were on the lookout for their cutie marks. Their talents were hinted at by Twilight Sparkle in Season 1's "The Show Stoppers" but they tried for another four seasons to get them by doing other things. However, this turns out to be subverted when they finally get them in the Season 5 episode "Crusaders of the Lost Mark" since their symbols turned out to be different than what they expected.
2nd May '16 9:15:06 PM KoopaKid17
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** The Cutie Mark Crusaders appeared to have held it when they were on the lookout for their cutie marks. Their talents hinted at by Twilight Sparkle in Season 1's "The Show Stoppers" but they tried for another four seasons to get them by doing other things. However, this turns out to be subverted when they finally get them in "Crusaders of the Lost Mark" since their symbols turned out to be different than what they expected.
9th Apr '16 2:29:04 AM Vir
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* In the ''{{WesternAnimation/Gargoyles}}'' episode "Vows", Demona gains possession of an artifact known as the Phoenix Gate, which allows the holder to travel to any place at any time at will. She travels back in time and informs her past self (also in possession of the past version of the Gate) that SHE should use the Gate to change history, instead of just doing it herself with the Gate she already possesses. The ultimate lesson is that history is immutable, though the reason for this apart from a large, conspicuous Idiot Ball is unclear.

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* In the ''{{WesternAnimation/Gargoyles}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' episode "Vows", Demona gains possession of an artifact known as the Phoenix Gate, which allows the holder to travel to any place at any time at will. She travels back in time and informs her past self (also in possession of the past version of the Gate) that SHE should use the Gate to change history, instead of just doing it herself with the Gate she already possesses. The ultimate lesson is that history is immutable, though the reason for this apart from a large, conspicuous Idiot Ball is unclear.



** The aforementioned PALES in comparison with the sheer idiocy Demona displays in "Hunter's Moon". Goliath and Co. break in when she's about to deliver the fatal blow against humankind and unleash the enchanted virus lethal to all sentient beings (Gargoyles will be protected by a magical figurine she has on her table). Not only does Demona start monologuing, in the worst Bond Villainesque manner possible, but she actually POINTS at the figurine as if asking Goliath to smash the thing. He obliges.

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** The aforementioned PALES ''pales'' in comparison with the sheer idiocy Demona displays in "Hunter's Moon". Goliath and Co. break in when she's about to deliver the fatal blow against humankind and unleash the enchanted virus lethal to all sentient beings (Gargoyles will be protected by a magical figurine she has on her table). Not only does Demona start monologuing, in the worst Bond Villainesque manner possible, but she actually POINTS at the figurine as if asking Goliath to smash the thing. He obliges.



** In ''Deadly Force'' Elisa Maza, an experienced police officer, is apparently stupid enough to leave her gun lying around her apartment loaded, which leads to [[spoiler:Broadway accidentally shooting her when he starts playing with it.]]
* in ''GIJoe'', the creation of Serpentor was likely the biggest mistake in Cobra's history, but one part of it stands out as especially idiotic. After Dr. Mindbender fails to obtain the DNA of Sun Tsu (meant to give Serpentor wisdom and patience), he thinks that replacing it with Sergeant Slaughter's DNA would be a good idea. (Sun Tzu, Sgt. Slaughter. Same thing, really) Ironically, Cobra Commander (whose incompetence is the whole ''reason'' for the plan) is the sole voice of reason when this suggestion is made, ranting about how ludicrous it is to put the DNA of an enemy into someone who is meant to lead them. [[spoiler: The point is eventually rendered moot, as Slaughter himself destroys his own DNA sample just as the experiment is happening, and Serpentor is born without it; without either Sun Tzu or Slaughter's DNA, he proves to be impatient, impulsive and little better than Cobra Commander.]]

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** In ''Deadly Force'' "Deadly Force" Elisa Maza, an experienced police officer, is apparently stupid enough to leave her gun lying around her apartment loaded, which leads to [[spoiler:Broadway accidentally shooting her when he starts playing with it.]]
* in ''GIJoe'', ''WesternAnimation/GIJoe'', the creation of Serpentor was likely the biggest mistake in Cobra's history, but one part of it stands out as especially idiotic. After Dr. Mindbender fails to obtain the DNA of Sun Tsu (meant to give Serpentor wisdom and patience), he thinks that replacing it with Sergeant Slaughter's DNA would be a good idea. (Sun Tzu, Sgt. Slaughter. Same thing, really) Ironically, Cobra Commander (whose incompetence is the whole ''reason'' for the plan) is the sole voice of reason when this suggestion is made, ranting about how ludicrous it is to put the DNA of an enemy into someone who is meant to lead them. [[spoiler: The point is eventually rendered moot, as Slaughter himself destroys his own DNA sample just as the experiment is happening, and Serpentor is born without it; without either Sun Tzu or Slaughter's DNA, he proves to be impatient, impulsive and little better than Cobra Commander.]]



** The trope applies to several episodes, with varying results - [[TheFool SpongeBob]], [[MoneyFetish Mr. Krabs]], and/or [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Plankton]] will be saddled with the idiot ball at any time whatsoever. The only ones safe are [[GadgeteerGenius Sandy]] and [[PerpetualFrowner Squidward]]... and even then...
** The episode where SpongeBob lost his name-tag had a big one. Normally, retracing your steps is a smart way to find something you lost. The idiot part is how [=SpongeBob=] thinks he has perfectly recreate everything he did that morning, no matter how unpleasant, and having to redo the whole thing if even the tiniest detail is missed.
** Squidward has been known to hold the Idiot Ball. In "The Snowball Effect", Squidward tells Patrick to think of him as [=SpongeBob=], to teach him how to have a {{snowball fight}} (while Spongebob [[ComicallyMissingThePoint asks to be Mr Krabs]]). Squidward throws a snowball at Patrick and says, "Now, what are you going to do?" Patrick throws a snowball back at Squidward, who had said not five seconds ago to think of him as [=SpongeBob=]. Squidward asks why Patrick didn't throw it at [=SpongeBob=].
-->'''Patrick''': [[LampshadeHanging You said you were Spongebob, Spongebob.]]
-->'''Spongebob''': [[ItMakesSenseInContext *Impersonating Mr Krabs.*]] [[DumbassHasAPoint Argh, it's true, Mr. Squidward.]] Now get back to work!
*** The other time his stubborn, outspoken nature came back to bite him was in the Movie, where he brags to Plankton that he's going to expose him, and doesn't get very far.
* The same goes for ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'', where in most episodes it's Timmy's idiocy that gets the plot moving. And very often keeps it moving, as Timmy could easily resolve most of the plots with wishing, and on the occasion that there is a reason why he can't, it's usually pretty flimsy.

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** The trope applies to several episodes, with varying results - [[TheFool SpongeBob]], [[MoneyFetish Mr. Krabs]], and/or [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Plankton]] will be saddled with the idiot ball Idiot Ball at any time whatsoever. The only ones safe are [[GadgeteerGenius Sandy]] and [[PerpetualFrowner Squidward]]... and even then...
** The episode where SpongeBob lost his name-tag name tag had a big one. Normally, retracing your steps is a smart way to find something you lost. The idiot part is how [=SpongeBob=] thinks he has to perfectly recreate everything he did that morning, no matter how unpleasant, and having to redo the whole thing if even the tiniest detail is missed.
** Squidward has been known to hold the Idiot Ball. In "The Snowball Effect", Squidward tells Patrick to think of him as [=SpongeBob=], to teach him how to have a {{snowball fight}} (while Spongebob [[ComicallyMissingThePoint asks to be Mr Mr. Krabs]]). Squidward throws a snowball at Patrick and says, "Now, what are you going to do?" Patrick throws a snowball back at Squidward, who had said not five seconds ago to think of him as [=SpongeBob=]. Squidward asks why Patrick didn't throw it at [=SpongeBob=].
-->'''Patrick''': [[LampshadeHanging You said you were Spongebob, Spongebob.SpongeBob, SpongeBob.]]
-->'''Spongebob''': -->'''[=SpongeBob=]''': [[ItMakesSenseInContext *Impersonating Mr Mr. Krabs.*]] [[DumbassHasAPoint Argh, it's true, Mr. Squidward.]] Now get back to work!
*** The other time his stubborn, outspoken nature came back to bite him was in [[WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobSquarePantsMovie the Movie, first movie]], where he brags to Plankton that he's going to expose him, and doesn't get very far.
* The same goes for ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'', ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'', where in most episodes it's Timmy's idiocy that gets the plot moving. And very often keeps it moving, as Timmy could easily resolve most of the plots with wishing, and on the occasion that there is a reason why he can't, it's usually pretty flimsy.flimsy.
** In "Man's Worst Friend", Timmy doesn't seem to immediately notice that Sparky has been replaced with his anti-fairy counterpart. Keep in mind that the main distinguishing feature separating anti-fairies from fairies is that anti-fairies are entirely blue.



* In the ''TheFlintstones'' {{sequel series}} ''WesternAnimation/ThePebblesAndBammBammShow'', Pebbles is very prone to this.

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* %%* In the ''TheFlintstones'' ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones'' {{sequel series}} ''WesternAnimation/ThePebblesAndBammBammShow'', Pebbles is very prone to this.



* Despite being relatively sane, [[HypercompetentSidekick Slinkman]] of ''CampLazlo'' likes to carry the Idiot Ball around a lot.

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* %%* Despite being relatively sane, [[HypercompetentSidekick Slinkman]] of ''CampLazlo'' ''WesternAnimation/CampLazlo'' likes to carry the Idiot Ball around a lot.



** The placement of said IdiotBall in that case may have been a slight homage : 86 also being the Agent number of the CloudCuckoolander lead in ''Series/GetSmart''.

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** The placement of said IdiotBall Idiot Ball in that case may have been a slight homage : homage: 86 also being the Agent number of the CloudCuckoolander lead in ''Series/GetSmart''.
30th Jan '16 1:25:52 PM StFan
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* ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'': Ms. Marvel picks one up when she sees what appears to be the rest of the Avengers walk out of a Skrull spaceship. Despite being well aware of the Skrulls' ability to shapeshift, she's only suspicious for as long as it takes for "Tony" to give a made up alibi. She only starts to show signs of knowing once they start ''invading Wakanda'' for no reason, and even then she needs to see "Thor" die and revert to his green alien form to be 100% sure.
** [[NebulousEvilOrganization HYDRA]] and [[ScienceIsBad AIM]] are fighting and destroying New York in the ensuing battle. What does Maria Hill do with her army of [[EliteMooks highly trained soldiers]] and [[AirborneAircraftCarrier flying aircraft carrier]]? [[WhatAnIdiot Go after the Avengers]] [[SkewedPriorities and make them join SHIELD by force, naturally.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'': ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'':
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Ms. Marvel picks one up when she sees what appears to be the rest of the Avengers walk out of a Skrull spaceship. Despite being well aware of the Skrulls' ability to shapeshift, she's only suspicious for as long as it takes for "Tony" to give a made up made-up alibi. She only starts to show signs of knowing once they start ''invading Wakanda'' for no reason, and even then she needs to see "Thor" die and revert to his green alien form to be 100% sure.
** [[NebulousEvilOrganization HYDRA]] and [[ScienceIsBad AIM]] are fighting and destroying New York in the ensuing battle. What does Maria Hill do with her army of [[EliteMooks highly trained soldiers]] and [[AirborneAircraftCarrier flying aircraft carrier]]? [[WhatAnIdiot Go after the Avengers]] [[SkewedPriorities and make them join SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. by force, naturally.]]
28th Nov '15 1:48:41 PM FF32
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* ''SpongebobSquarepants''

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* ''SpongebobSquarepants''''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants''



** The episode where SpongeBob lost his name-tag had a big one. Normally, retracing your steps is a smart way to find something you lost. The idiot part is how SpongeBob thinks he has perfectly recreate everything he did that morning, no matter how unpleasant, and having to redo the whole thing if even the tiniest detail is missed.
** Squidward has been known to hold the Idiot Ball. In "The Snowball Effect", Squidward tells Patrick to think of him as SpongeBob, to teach him how to have a {{snowball fight}} (while Spongebob [[ComicallyMissingThePoint asks to be Mr Krabs]]). Squidward throws a snowball at Patrick and says, "Now, what are you going to do?" Patrick throws a snowball back at Squidward, who had said not five seconds ago to think of him as SpongeBob. Squidward asks why Patrick didn't throw it at SpongeBob.

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** The episode where SpongeBob lost his name-tag had a big one. Normally, retracing your steps is a smart way to find something you lost. The idiot part is how SpongeBob [=SpongeBob=] thinks he has perfectly recreate everything he did that morning, no matter how unpleasant, and having to redo the whole thing if even the tiniest detail is missed.
** Squidward has been known to hold the Idiot Ball. In "The Snowball Effect", Squidward tells Patrick to think of him as SpongeBob, [=SpongeBob=], to teach him how to have a {{snowball fight}} (while Spongebob [[ComicallyMissingThePoint asks to be Mr Krabs]]). Squidward throws a snowball at Patrick and says, "Now, what are you going to do?" Patrick throws a snowball back at Squidward, who had said not five seconds ago to think of him as SpongeBob. [=SpongeBob=]. Squidward asks why Patrick didn't throw it at SpongeBob.[=SpongeBob=].
22nd Nov '15 6:35:41 PM nombretomado
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** [[SamuelLJackson Mace]] [[ThisIsTVTropesBitch Mother Fucking]] [[SamuelLJackson Windu]] starts off with the idiot ball in the Zillo Beast arc of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. A giant beast that eats the inhabitants of the planet the Jedi are negotiating with is found, and Mace Windu turns into Captain Picard, demanding that the rights of the creature be respected, and it not be killed. The native Dugs aren't too thrilled by this, as this thing is the equivalent of Godzilla on their world, and demand that the Jedi help kill it, under threat of ceasing negotiations with them. Mace Windu explains this to Senator Palpatine, and asks to be allowed to take the beast off world. Senator Palpatine says to defer to the locals if the creature's death is a sticking point. So now we have a conflict between killing this innocent creature and signing a necessary treaty, or letting it live and losing out on valuable resources. Only, it's completely unnecessary: let's overlook the observation that the [[StarWars Knights of the Jedi Order]] are not members of the [[StarTrek United Federation of Planets]], and while not bloodthirsty, have never shown an aversion to attacking creatures, innocent or not, who were trying to kill them. Windu presents the issue of the creature's survival to the Dugs as one of just "letting it live and putting up with it", while he presents the option of having the creature taken off world to Palpatine. The Dugs have a perfectly legitimate reason for not wanting a creature that could destroy a large part of their population to be allowed to live on their planet. However they might be more apt to let it live if Windu were to actively present the removal option to the Dugs. Since "dead" and "on the other side of the galaxy" have the same end result from the Dugs's point of view, there's no reason why this couldn't have been even floated as a solution, thus ending about half an episode's worth of [[ConflictBall needless conflict]].

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** [[SamuelLJackson [[Creator/SamuelLJackson Mace]] [[ThisIsTVTropesBitch Mother Fucking]] [[SamuelLJackson [[Creator/SamuelLJackson Windu]] starts off with the idiot ball in the Zillo Beast arc of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. A giant beast that eats the inhabitants of the planet the Jedi are negotiating with is found, and Mace Windu turns into Captain Picard, demanding that the rights of the creature be respected, and it not be killed. The native Dugs aren't too thrilled by this, as this thing is the equivalent of Godzilla on their world, and demand that the Jedi help kill it, under threat of ceasing negotiations with them. Mace Windu explains this to Senator Palpatine, and asks to be allowed to take the beast off world. Senator Palpatine says to defer to the locals if the creature's death is a sticking point. So now we have a conflict between killing this innocent creature and signing a necessary treaty, or letting it live and losing out on valuable resources. Only, it's completely unnecessary: let's overlook the observation that the [[StarWars Knights of the Jedi Order]] are not members of the [[StarTrek United Federation of Planets]], and while not bloodthirsty, have never shown an aversion to attacking creatures, innocent or not, who were trying to kill them. Windu presents the issue of the creature's survival to the Dugs as one of just "letting it live and putting up with it", while he presents the option of having the creature taken off world to Palpatine. The Dugs have a perfectly legitimate reason for not wanting a creature that could destroy a large part of their population to be allowed to live on their planet. However they might be more apt to let it live if Windu were to actively present the removal option to the Dugs. Since "dead" and "on the other side of the galaxy" have the same end result from the Dugs's point of view, there's no reason why this couldn't have been even floated as a solution, thus ending about half an episode's worth of [[ConflictBall needless conflict]].
27th Sep '15 7:16:33 AM Steven
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* ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' has nearly the entire cast written as idiots and most episodes involve an IdiotPlot. Certain characters like Brian and Joe Swanson tend to be used as the voice of reason, but they are sometimes given the idiot ball to help advance the plot or assist in the random gag of the day.
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