History IdiotBall / VideoGames

12th Aug '17 10:09:05 AM nombretomado
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* ''{{Freelancer}}'' does a great job in having an elaborate background of the universe. Even the puniest pirate gangs have solid reasons for their actions, effectively averting AlwaysChaoticEvil except one or two factions. When you read some of their backstories, you will eventually find that many outlaws have actually quite good or at least justified reasons for their struggles. Freedom Fighters, Ecologists, Dissidents... However, what is their way to manifest their beliefs and achieve their goals? Shoot at everyone who passes nearby, no matter if s/he is completely innocent, while stealing and smuggling? [[SarcasmMode That's definitely a way how to make people support your cause]]...

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* ''{{Freelancer}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Freelancer}}'' does a great job in having an elaborate background of the universe. Even the puniest pirate gangs have solid reasons for their actions, effectively averting AlwaysChaoticEvil except one or two factions. When you read some of their backstories, you will eventually find that many outlaws have actually quite good or at least justified reasons for their struggles. Freedom Fighters, Ecologists, Dissidents... However, what is their way to manifest their beliefs and achieve their goals? Shoot at everyone who passes nearby, no matter if s/he is completely innocent, while stealing and smuggling? [[SarcasmMode That's definitely a way how to make people support your cause]]...
10th Jun '17 5:07:11 PM ShiningwingX
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** [[VideoGame/DarkSouls3 Unbreakable Patches]] attempts to impersonate a Knight of Catarina, and once again hints at the existance of treasure on the other side of the bridge he stands near, though the deception is still easy to spot due to Patches' BadBadActing. Walking out to the center of the bridge will have him lower it, forcing the player to fight or flee from the giants at the bottom. In this case the Ball can be volleyed back to Patches himself. Should the player have already ventured down below and killed the giants beforehand, Patches fails to notice their absense and simply lowers the player into a harmless, empty tar pit, only realzing his error after the fact.

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** [[VideoGame/DarkSouls3 Unbreakable Patches]] attempts to impersonate a Knight of Catarina, and once again hints at the existance of treasure on the other side of the bridge he stands near, though the deception is still easy to spot due to Patches' BadBadActing. Walking out to the center of the bridge will have him lower it, forcing the player to fight or flee from the giants at the bottom. In this case the Ball can be volleyed back to Patches himself. Should the player have already ventured down below and killed the giants beforehand, Patches fails to notice their absense and simply lowers the player into a harmless, empty tar pit, only realzing realizing his error after the fact.
10th Jun '17 5:06:01 PM ShiningwingX
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** [[VideoGame/DemonsSouls Patches the Hyena]] is found in multiple locations, and each time tries some new scheme to get the player killed so he can steal their belongings. A couple of examples include giving the player a "tip" that a [[ShmuckBait glorious treasure]] can be found just beyond a exploding [[DamageSpongeBoss Damage Sponge]] {{Mook}}, hoping for them to die in the blast, and later telling them the same can be found at the bottom of the pit near him, and suggests they take a look. The results are... less than ideal if you choose to trust him.

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** [[VideoGame/DemonsSouls Patches the Hyena]] is found in multiple locations, and each time tries some new scheme to get the player killed so he can steal their belongings. A couple of examples include giving the player a "tip" that a [[ShmuckBait glorious treasure]] can be found just beyond a an exploding [[DamageSpongeBoss Damage Sponge]] {{Mook}}, hoping for them to die in the blast, and later telling them the same can be found at the bottom of the pit near him, and suggests they take a look. The results are... less than ideal if you choose to trust him.



** [[VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}} Patches the Spider]] is a little more subtle but still relies on this. He creates a TrailOfBreadCrumbs using Shining Coins which inevitably leads to sheer drop into a poisoned swamp. Bad enough, but at least this time he has the sense to stay away from the pit himself and only rush you after you follow the trail. In other games, he's just a terrible actor but in this one he's literally a bald man's head on an arachnid body, which would probably raise a number of red flags even if WAS fairly convincing.

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** [[VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}} Patches the Spider]] is a little more subtle but still relies on this. He creates a TrailOfBreadCrumbs using Shining Coins which inevitably leads to sheer drop into a poisoned swamp. Bad enough, but at least this time he has the sense to stay away from the pit himself and only rush you after you follow the trail. In other games, he's just a terrible actor but in this one he's literally a bald man's head on an arachnid body, which would probably raise a number of red flags even if he WAS fairly convincing.
10th Jun '17 5:03:43 PM ShiningwingX
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* The idiot ball lands squarely in the lap of the player for the climax of ''Videogame/FinalFantasyXIII''. The BigBad tells you that [[spoiler: you - as l'cie - are the only ones who can destroy Orphan, thus destroying Cocoon and wiping out humanity, which was precisely his plan for you all along. You tell him that you won't have any part of it, and that you and humanity are through with being his pawns. His backup plan? Manipulate the human army into attacking Orphan. But wait, human weapons can't hurt fal'cie, only l'cie magic can. So what exactly is the humans attack supposed to accomplish? Why, force you to go through with his master plan to prevent the human army from doing nothing but tickle it, of course. You could have just killed him instead of Orphan, but no...]] NiceJobBreakingItHero.

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* The idiot ball lands squarely in the lap of the player for the climax of ''Videogame/FinalFantasyXIII''. The BigBad tells you that [[spoiler: you - as l'cie - are the only ones who can destroy Orphan, thus destroying Cocoon and wiping out humanity, which was precisely his plan for you all along. You tell him that you won't have any part of it, and that you and humanity are through with being his pawns. His backup plan? Manipulate the human army into attacking Orphan. But wait, human weapons can't hurt fal'cie, only l'cie magic can. So what exactly is the humans attack supposed to accomplish? Why, force you to go through with his master plan to prevent the human army from doing nothing but tickle it, of course. You could have just killed him instead of Orphan, but no...]] NiceJobBreakingItHero.NiceJobBreakingItHero.
* The recurring character, Patches in ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls'', ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'', and ''VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}}'' relies on his victims falling prey to this trope.
** [[VideoGame/DemonsSouls Patches the Hyena]] is found in multiple locations, and each time tries some new scheme to get the player killed so he can steal their belongings. A couple of examples include giving the player a "tip" that a [[ShmuckBait glorious treasure]] can be found just beyond a exploding [[DamageSpongeBoss Damage Sponge]] {{Mook}}, hoping for them to die in the blast, and later telling them the same can be found at the bottom of the pit near him, and suggests they take a look. The results are... less than ideal if you choose to trust him.
** [[BlatantLies "Trusty"]] [[VideoGame/DarkSouls Patches]] pulls the pit-kick stunt again in Tomb of the Giants, whereupon you can discover the hollowed remnants (and one still-sane priestess) of some of his previous victims. Should you choose to let him live, he'll set up shop in the Firelink Shrine... right next to a conveniently located cliffside.
** [[VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}} Patches the Spider]] is a little more subtle but still relies on this. He creates a TrailOfBreadCrumbs using Shining Coins which inevitably leads to sheer drop into a poisoned swamp. Bad enough, but at least this time he has the sense to stay away from the pit himself and only rush you after you follow the trail. In other games, he's just a terrible actor but in this one he's literally a bald man's head on an arachnid body, which would probably raise a number of red flags even if WAS fairly convincing.
** [[VideoGame/DarkSouls3 Unbreakable Patches]] attempts to impersonate a Knight of Catarina, and once again hints at the existance of treasure on the other side of the bridge he stands near, though the deception is still easy to spot due to Patches' BadBadActing. Walking out to the center of the bridge will have him lower it, forcing the player to fight or flee from the giants at the bottom. In this case the Ball can be volleyed back to Patches himself. Should the player have already ventured down below and killed the giants beforehand, Patches fails to notice their absense and simply lowers the player into a harmless, empty tar pit, only realzing his error after the fact.
17th Apr '17 1:28:16 PM Morgenthaler
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* While ''{{Shadowgate}}'' usually allows the player to force the ball on the hero by actively doing stupid things, there are a few cases where the hero is downright stupid. One example is the player can command the hero to go down a well. The in-game text states the hero ''leaps in head-first'' into what ends up being a dry well and the hero dies. This is a castle of an evil wizard filled with [[EverythingTryingToKillYou deadly traps and monsters]]. Why would the guy dive into a well without checking if there's water in it first?!

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* While ''{{Shadowgate}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Shadowgate}}'' usually allows the player to force the ball on the hero by actively doing stupid things, there are a few cases where the hero is downright stupid. One example is the player can command the hero to go down a well. The in-game text states the hero ''leaps in head-first'' into what ends up being a dry well and the hero dies. This is a castle of an evil wizard filled with [[EverythingTryingToKillYou deadly traps and monsters]]. Why would the guy dive into a well without checking if there's water in it first?!
11th Apr '17 4:23:32 PM Yalsaris63
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* The ''VideoGame/XBeyondTheFrontier'' game as well as the ''X3'' trilogy and ''X: Rebirth'' sequels (''X2: The Threat'' is a completely different story altogether) would have never happened in the first place had the developers not written [[AllThereInTheManual the backstory]] that made responsible the existence of an IdiotPlot. Had the Terrans had the common sense to take their time to meticulously and thoroughly fix that one buggy software update meant for the Terraformers, there would be no rampant genocidal self-replicating robots out there to menace the galaxy, if not, the universe, and there also would not have been made possible the birth of an offshoot faction of the Terrans who would end up becoming a LostColony and then get locked into a GuiltFreeExterminationWar with their parent faction over seven centuries later because of paranoiac xenophobia of Artificial General Intelligence ships. It's not like there was some sort of deadline to test it out on the Terraformers or something (although we may never know if there was a something like that). However, [[HumansAreMorons since the virtue of patience isn't found on the Terrans]], [[AIIsACrapshoot we all knew what happened next]]. It seems the developers decided to make an IdiotPlot [[EnforcedTrope the driving force]] of the X-Universe games as we know today.
26th Mar '17 5:11:59 PM HyperEmerson
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* A literal, just for visual pun example: In ''Vattroller X'', the only way to beat opponents is to turn them into balls and then knock them into a pit. A special attack lets characters turn into ball monsters which are vulnerable to falling. [[ArtificialStupidity The CPU kills itself frequently while using the more powerful version of it.]]
8th Mar '17 12:14:31 PM nombretomado
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* Dear god, [[spoiler: Luna's DisneyDeath]] in ''[[MegamanStarForce Star Force 3]]'' could have been completely avoided if she didn't casually walk up to Megaman, stick around long enough to point out two of the characters hanging around are [[TheMole people she knows]], and not notice [[spoiler: [[ScaryBlackMan Joker]]]] until he was in front of her and not just threatening, but outright saying he was going to destroy her. And Megaman/Geo is no better, chasing after [[spoiler: Joker]] when he TELEPORTS AWAY, leaving [[spoiler:Luna]] a sitting duck to his attack from behind. This wouldn't be so stupid if he didn't just witnessed him teleporting in front of [[spoiler:Luna]] in the first place.

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* Dear god, [[spoiler: Luna's DisneyDeath]] in ''[[MegamanStarForce ''[[VideoGame/MegamanStarForce Star Force 3]]'' could have been completely avoided if she didn't casually walk up to Megaman, stick around long enough to point out two of the characters hanging around are [[TheMole people she knows]], and not notice [[spoiler: [[ScaryBlackMan Joker]]]] until he was in front of her and not just threatening, but outright saying he was going to destroy her. And Megaman/Geo is no better, chasing after [[spoiler: Joker]] when he TELEPORTS AWAY, leaving [[spoiler:Luna]] a sitting duck to his attack from behind. This wouldn't be so stupid if he didn't just witnessed him teleporting in front of [[spoiler:Luna]] in the first place.
28th Feb '17 4:59:48 AM DLMaximum1
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* In "VideoGame/DeadToRights", Jack Slate has a vice grip on the idiot ball. When he escapes Iron Point, he is about to get ran down by Marvin Silt, and just stands there looking like a deer in the headlights until his dog, Shadow, pushes him out of the way. Silt crashes his car into a tree and is knocked unconscious. Jack drags him out the car, takes his wallet and keys, and drives off, leaving Silt behind. He has to find him all over again in order to get some answers out of him. Jack does find him again, [[spoiler: but Eve shoots him before he can give Jack any info.]] Jack originally had him where he wanted him and could have kept him in the car while unconscious, and interrogated him once Jack found a safe place to hide out.

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* In "VideoGame/DeadToRights", ''VideoGame/DeadToRights'', Jack Slate has a vice grip on the idiot ball. When he escapes Iron Point, he is about to get ran down by Marvin Silt, and just stands there looking like a deer in the headlights until his dog, Shadow, pushes him out of the way. Silt crashes his car into a tree and is knocked unconscious. Jack drags him out the car, takes his wallet and keys, and drives off, leaving Silt behind. He has to find him all over again in order to get some answers out of him. Jack does find him again, [[spoiler: but Eve shoots him before he can give Jack any info.]] Jack originally had him where he wanted him and could have kept him in the car while unconscious, and interrogated him once Jack found a safe place to hide out.
28th Feb '17 4:57:43 AM DLMaximum1
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* Steve Burnside in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'' is idiot ball incarnate. In a hidden room, there's a pair of golden pistols that trigger a deathtrap if they're removed from the display case. When the player removes the weapons as Claire, they can quickly deduce that the trap will deactivate and the door opens again if they put the guns back. Steve doesn't get the same idea and refuses to let go of the pistols until Claire comes by to deactivate the trap from the outside (and then to top it off, Steve refuses to give Claire the pistols she needs to clear a puzzle and will only give them to her if she finds him a fully automatic weapon). In another moment, Steve shoots Alexa (who is really Alfred disguised as Alexa) and saves Claire and the two of them follow her into a secret room. Inside, they find Alfred instead and he attempts to attack them. Steve easily throws him to the ground and instead of shooting him or restraining him since he and Claire both know how dangerous he is, Steve just watches Alfred have a freakout moment over his disguise being found out and runs away to trigger the base's self destruct system. And just to keep the ball rolling, Steve has another idiot moment where he's [[DistractedByTheSexy too busy staring at Claire's ass]] while moving a crane, causing it to rupture a gas line and fill the room with toxic gas.

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* Steve Burnside in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'' is idiot ball incarnate. In a hidden room, there's a pair of golden pistols that trigger a deathtrap if they're removed from the display case. When the player removes the weapons as Claire, they can quickly deduce that the trap will deactivate and the door opens again if they put the guns back. Steve doesn't get the same idea and refuses to let go of the pistols until Claire comes by to deactivate the trap from the outside (and then to top it off, Steve refuses to give Claire the pistols she needs to clear a puzzle and will only give them to her if she finds him a fully automatic weapon). In another moment, Steve shoots Alexa Alexia (who is really Alfred disguised as Alexa) Alexia) and saves Claire and the two of them follow her into a secret room. Inside, they find Alfred instead and he attempts to attack them. Steve easily throws him to the ground and instead of shooting him or restraining him since he and Claire both know how dangerous he is, Steve just watches Alfred have a freakout moment over his disguise being found out and runs away to trigger the base's self destruct system. And just to keep the ball rolling, Steve has another idiot moment where he's [[DistractedByTheSexy too busy staring at Claire's ass]] while moving a crane, causing it to rupture a gas line and fill the room with toxic gas.
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