History IdiotBall / VideoGames

26th Mar '17 5:11:59 PM HyperEmerson
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* A literal, just for visual pun example: In ''Vattroller X'', the only way to beat opponents is to turn them into balls and then knock them into a pit. A special attack lets characters turn into ball monsters which are vulnerable to falling. [[ArtificialStupidity The CPU kills itself frequently while using the more powerful version of it.]]
8th Mar '17 12:14:31 PM nombretomado
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* Dear god, [[spoiler: Luna's DisneyDeath]] in ''[[MegamanStarForce Star Force 3]]'' could have been completely avoided if she didn't casually walk up to Megaman, stick around long enough to point out two of the characters hanging around are [[TheMole people she knows]], and not notice [[spoiler: [[ScaryBlackMan Joker]]]] until he was in front of her and not just threatening, but outright saying he was going to destroy her. And Megaman/Geo is no better, chasing after [[spoiler: Joker]] when he TELEPORTS AWAY, leaving [[spoiler:Luna]] a sitting duck to his attack from behind. This wouldn't be so stupid if he didn't just witnessed him teleporting in front of [[spoiler:Luna]] in the first place.

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* Dear god, [[spoiler: Luna's DisneyDeath]] in ''[[MegamanStarForce ''[[VideoGame/MegamanStarForce Star Force 3]]'' could have been completely avoided if she didn't casually walk up to Megaman, stick around long enough to point out two of the characters hanging around are [[TheMole people she knows]], and not notice [[spoiler: [[ScaryBlackMan Joker]]]] until he was in front of her and not just threatening, but outright saying he was going to destroy her. And Megaman/Geo is no better, chasing after [[spoiler: Joker]] when he TELEPORTS AWAY, leaving [[spoiler:Luna]] a sitting duck to his attack from behind. This wouldn't be so stupid if he didn't just witnessed him teleporting in front of [[spoiler:Luna]] in the first place.
28th Feb '17 4:59:48 AM DLMaximum1
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* In "VideoGame/DeadToRights", Jack Slate has a vice grip on the idiot ball. When he escapes Iron Point, he is about to get ran down by Marvin Silt, and just stands there looking like a deer in the headlights until his dog, Shadow, pushes him out of the way. Silt crashes his car into a tree and is knocked unconscious. Jack drags him out the car, takes his wallet and keys, and drives off, leaving Silt behind. He has to find him all over again in order to get some answers out of him. Jack does find him again, [[spoiler: but Eve shoots him before he can give Jack any info.]] Jack originally had him where he wanted him and could have kept him in the car while unconscious, and interrogated him once Jack found a safe place to hide out.

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* In "VideoGame/DeadToRights", ''VideoGame/DeadToRights'', Jack Slate has a vice grip on the idiot ball. When he escapes Iron Point, he is about to get ran down by Marvin Silt, and just stands there looking like a deer in the headlights until his dog, Shadow, pushes him out of the way. Silt crashes his car into a tree and is knocked unconscious. Jack drags him out the car, takes his wallet and keys, and drives off, leaving Silt behind. He has to find him all over again in order to get some answers out of him. Jack does find him again, [[spoiler: but Eve shoots him before he can give Jack any info.]] Jack originally had him where he wanted him and could have kept him in the car while unconscious, and interrogated him once Jack found a safe place to hide out.
28th Feb '17 4:57:43 AM DLMaximum1
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* Steve Burnside in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'' is idiot ball incarnate. In a hidden room, there's a pair of golden pistols that trigger a deathtrap if they're removed from the display case. When the player removes the weapons as Claire, they can quickly deduce that the trap will deactivate and the door opens again if they put the guns back. Steve doesn't get the same idea and refuses to let go of the pistols until Claire comes by to deactivate the trap from the outside (and then to top it off, Steve refuses to give Claire the pistols she needs to clear a puzzle and will only give them to her if she finds him a fully automatic weapon). In another moment, Steve shoots Alexa (who is really Alfred disguised as Alexa) and saves Claire and the two of them follow her into a secret room. Inside, they find Alfred instead and he attempts to attack them. Steve easily throws him to the ground and instead of shooting him or restraining him since he and Claire both know how dangerous he is, Steve just watches Alfred have a freakout moment over his disguise being found out and runs away to trigger the base's self destruct system. And just to keep the ball rolling, Steve has another idiot moment where he's [[DistractedByTheSexy too busy staring at Claire's ass]] while moving a crane, causing it to rupture a gas line and fill the room with toxic gas.

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* Steve Burnside in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'' is idiot ball incarnate. In a hidden room, there's a pair of golden pistols that trigger a deathtrap if they're removed from the display case. When the player removes the weapons as Claire, they can quickly deduce that the trap will deactivate and the door opens again if they put the guns back. Steve doesn't get the same idea and refuses to let go of the pistols until Claire comes by to deactivate the trap from the outside (and then to top it off, Steve refuses to give Claire the pistols she needs to clear a puzzle and will only give them to her if she finds him a fully automatic weapon). In another moment, Steve shoots Alexa Alexia (who is really Alfred disguised as Alexa) Alexia) and saves Claire and the two of them follow her into a secret room. Inside, they find Alfred instead and he attempts to attack them. Steve easily throws him to the ground and instead of shooting him or restraining him since he and Claire both know how dangerous he is, Steve just watches Alfred have a freakout moment over his disguise being found out and runs away to trigger the base's self destruct system. And just to keep the ball rolling, Steve has another idiot moment where he's [[DistractedByTheSexy too busy staring at Claire's ass]] while moving a crane, causing it to rupture a gas line and fill the room with toxic gas.
28th Feb '17 4:36:12 AM DLMaximum1
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* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' the villains need TheHero (and specifically TheHero, mind you) to take out TheHeartless to restore the titular {{MacGuffin}}. Thing is, he was already ''doing'' that. They completely shot themselves in the foot by even exposing their existence to him, let alone pushing his BerserkButton to try and blackmail him. If they'd just quietly let him do his hero thing, or even ''asked'' for his help (since their grand goal wasn't all that villainous to begin with), they probably could have gotten out of the game with at least half of the members still alive. (The ones in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainofMemories'', not so much.) This is especially annoying, because them showing up and taunting him convinces him right away that they're evil, and considers specifically ''not'' killing TheHeartless to prevent them from getting what they want.

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* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', the villains need TheHero (and specifically TheHero, mind you) to take out TheHeartless to restore the titular {{MacGuffin}}. Thing is, he was already ''doing'' that. They completely shot themselves in the foot by even exposing their existence to him, let alone pushing his BerserkButton to try and blackmail him. If they'd just quietly let him do his hero thing, or even ''asked'' for his help (since their grand goal wasn't all that villainous to begin with), they probably could have gotten out of the game with at least half of the members still alive. (The ones in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainofMemories'', not so much.) This is especially annoying, because them showing up and taunting him convinces him right away that they're evil, and considers specifically ''not'' killing TheHeartless to prevent them from getting what they want.



* ''Videogame/MassEffect2'' with an event near the endame. [[spoiler: In this event, the Collectors board the Normandy SR-2 and kidnap all the crew members, forcing the player to rescue them quickly before they die]]. How does this occur? Shepard, along with all 12 squadmates, decide to go 'complete a mission' altogether, with Shepard choosing the customary two upon arrival. This instance could've been entirely averted had Shepard chosen his two partners aboard the Normandy. Oh, and this happens regardless of whether you have any missions left in the Journal or not, resulting in the event making even less sense.

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* ''Videogame/MassEffect2'' with an event near the endame.endgame. [[spoiler: In this event, the Collectors board the Normandy SR-2 and kidnap all the crew members, forcing the player to rescue them quickly before they die]]. How does this occur? Shepard, along with all 12 squadmates, decide to go 'complete a mission' altogether, with Shepard choosing the customary two upon arrival. This instance could've been entirely averted had Shepard chosen his two partners aboard the Normandy. Oh, and this happens regardless of whether you have any missions left in the Journal or not, resulting in the event making even less sense.
28th Feb '17 4:33:29 AM DLMaximum1
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* In ''[[VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird]]'', Senator Monica Hughes seems to be almost completely encased in an idiot ball, given that she handed over her constituents to the trigger-happy morons at STAG in order to stop a gang war, and didn't even consider the possibility that introducing a large military organization armed with incendiary and explosive weapons into the already-violent city might make things worse. [[spoiler:And if the Daedelus is unleashed at the end, the "Butcher of Steelport' ends up becoming the de facto ''Mayor'' of Steelport. Then again, since both Killbane and Temple are both dead by that point, thus leaving the Saints in power, one could argue that the Daedalus ''does'', in fact, play a role in ending Steelport's gang problem.]]

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* In ''[[VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird]]'', ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'', Senator Monica Hughes seems to be almost completely encased in an idiot ball, given that she handed over her constituents to the trigger-happy morons at STAG in order to stop a gang war, and didn't even consider the possibility that introducing a large military organization armed with incendiary and explosive weapons into the already-violent city might make things worse. [[spoiler:And if the Daedelus is unleashed at the end, the "Butcher of Steelport' ends up becoming the de facto ''Mayor'' of Steelport. Then again, since both Killbane and Temple are both dead by that point, thus leaving the Saints in power, one could argue that the Daedalus ''does'', in fact, play a role in ending Steelport's gang problem.]]
28th Feb '17 4:31:52 AM DLMaximum1
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28th Feb '17 4:30:14 AM DLMaximum1
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** Similarly, in ''God of War III," Helios seemed to have [[VillainProtagonist Kratos]] legitimately interested in sparing his life. So what does Helios do? He insults Kratos and tells him he'll never defeat Zeus. Kratos promptly [[{{Gorn}} replies in kind]].

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** Similarly, in ''God of War III," III'', Helios seemed to have [[VillainProtagonist Kratos]] legitimately interested in sparing his life. So what does Helios do? He insults Kratos and tells him he'll never defeat Zeus. Kratos promptly [[{{Gorn}} replies in kind]].



** In Videogame/SuperPaperMario, there's a shapeshifter named Mimi who often pulls tricks on the cast, to make them fall into traps. During those moments, the cast is forced to act like complete idiots. Their ally who never leaves the Hub World is in the final dungeon to tell them something important? No way it can't be him, this must be Mi- what do you mean, we HAVE to fall for that trap?

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** In Videogame/SuperPaperMario, ''Videogame/SuperPaperMario'', there's a shapeshifter named Mimi who often pulls tricks on the cast, to make them fall into traps. During those moments, the cast is forced to act like complete idiots. Their ally who never leaves the Hub World is in the final dungeon to tell them something important? No way it can't be him, this must be Mi- what do you mean, we HAVE to fall for that trap?



* In [[VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird Saint's Row The Third]], Senator Monica Hughes seems to be almost completely encased in an idiot ball, given that she handed over her constituents to the trigger-happy morons at STAG in order to stop a gang war, and didn't even consider the possibility that introducing a large military organization armed with incendiary and explosive weapons into the already-violent city might make things worse. [[spoiler:And if the Daedelus is unleashed at the end, the "Butcher of Steelport' ends up becoming the de facto ''Mayor'' of Steelport. Then again, since both Killbane and Temple are both dead by that point, thus leaving the Saints in power, one could argue that the Daedalus ''does'', in fact, play a role in ending Steelport's gang problem.]]

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* In [[VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird Saint's Row The Third]], ''[[VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird]]'', Senator Monica Hughes seems to be almost completely encased in an idiot ball, given that she handed over her constituents to the trigger-happy morons at STAG in order to stop a gang war, and didn't even consider the possibility that introducing a large military organization armed with incendiary and explosive weapons into the already-violent city might make things worse. [[spoiler:And if the Daedelus is unleashed at the end, the "Butcher of Steelport' ends up becoming the de facto ''Mayor'' of Steelport. Then again, since both Killbane and Temple are both dead by that point, thus leaving the Saints in power, one could argue that the Daedalus ''does'', in fact, play a role in ending Steelport's gang problem.]]



** "Great Chase through time" has some almost hilarious ones. Carmen orders her {{Mook}} to steal something and then gives them hints to hide some place. Some of these places make a bit of sense (Baron hiding over the edge of a ship, Jacquelyn Hyde hiding inside a cave), others are soemtimes a bit funny (General Mayhem managing to hide inside a tapestry) but other times, they're ''hilariously'' obvious and they're hiding in ''plain sight''. Adventure-Game/FetchQuest aside, some cases could ahve been over in a few minutes if people simply looked around a bit. (Julius Caesar apparently never thought to look ''behind'' the column that was ''right next to him'', the servant holding the camel that Bugg Zapper was hiding behind never noticed it was a cardboard cutout, Isabella somehow didn't notice a chart in her room that detailed landmasses that at the time were unknown to her, Beethoven doesn't immediately identify the foreign instrument in his orchestra, and Thomas Edison doesn't even think to look at the battery that is ''right in front of him''.)

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** "Great Chase through time" Through Time" has some almost hilarious ones. Carmen orders her {{Mook}} to steal something and then gives them hints to hide some place. Some of these places make a bit of sense (Baron hiding over the edge of a ship, Jacquelyn Hyde hiding inside a cave), others are soemtimes a bit funny (General Mayhem managing to hide inside a tapestry) but other times, they're ''hilariously'' obvious and they're hiding in ''plain sight''. Adventure-Game/FetchQuest aside, some cases could ahve been over in a few minutes if people simply looked around a bit. (Julius Caesar apparently never thought to look ''behind'' the column that was ''right next to him'', the servant holding the camel that Bugg Zapper was hiding behind never noticed it was a cardboard cutout, Isabella somehow didn't notice a chart in her room that detailed landmasses that at the time were unknown to her, Beethoven doesn't immediately identify the foreign instrument in his orchestra, and Thomas Edison doesn't even think to look at the battery that is ''right in front of him''.)



* In "VideoGame/TheLongestJourney" you, as the player, are forced to pick up the idiot ball in order to move the plot. At one point you meet a thinly disguised monster pretending to be an old lady who needs help to get home. If you don't voluntarily walk into the monster's home then you can't move on. It's made all the more ridiculous when the "old lady" keeps saying things like "Oh, I'm nobody, nobody at all, just a frail old woman picking bonesss-- Berries! Picking berries for her stew so she can feed her pris-- Guests! Feed her guestsss, and fatten them up for the...long winter."

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* In "VideoGame/TheLongestJourney" ''VideoGame/TheLongestJourney'' you, as the player, are forced to pick up the idiot ball in order to move the plot. At one point point, you meet a thinly disguised monster pretending to be an old lady who needs help to get home. If you don't voluntarily walk into the monster's home home, then you can't move on. It's made all the more ridiculous when the "old lady" keeps saying things like "Oh, I'm nobody, nobody at all, just a frail old woman picking bonesss-- Berries! Picking berries for her stew so she can feed her pris-- Guests! Feed her guestsss, and fatten them up for the... long winter."



* ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' with the Leviathan DLC reveals the origin of the Reapers to be a galactic-scale Idiot Ball. The Leviathans ruled the galaxy. They had a problem: Lesser species kept creating AIs, which kept rebelling and wiping out their creators. The Leviathans didn't want their thralls being wiped out. Their solution? Create an AI to solve the problem for them... Shepard even points this out to them, and they respond by telling him/her that their dominion over the galaxy caused them to believe that they were above the problems of the "lesser races" and that from their POV the Catalyst/AI was no different than the thrall races they controlled. Whoops...

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* ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' with the Leviathan DLC reveals the origin of the Reapers to be a galactic-scale Idiot Ball. The Leviathans ruled the galaxy. They had a problem: Lesser species kept creating AIs, which kept rebelling and wiping out their creators. The Leviathans didn't want their thralls being wiped out. Their solution? Create an AI to solve the problem for them... Shepard even points this out to them, and they respond by telling him/her that their dominion over the galaxy caused them to believe that they were above the problems of the "lesser races" and that from their POV POV, the Catalyst/AI was no different than the thrall races they controlled. Whoops...
31st Jan '17 7:40:29 PM Amahn
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* In "VideoGame/DeadToRights", Jack Slate has a vice grip on the idiot ball. When he escapes Iron Point, he is about to get ran down by Marvin Silt, and just stands there looking like a deer in the headlights until his dog, Shadow, pushes him out of the way. Silt crashes his car into a tree and is knocked unconscious. Jack drags him out the car, takes his wallet and keys, and drives off, leaving Silt behind. He has to find him all over again in order to get some answers out of him. Jack does find him again, [[spoiler: but Eve shoots him before he can give Jack any info.]] Jack originally had him where he wanted him and could have kept him in the car while unconscious, and interrogated him once Jack found a safe place to hide out.

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* In "VideoGame/DeadToRights", Jack Slate has a vice grip on the idiot ball. When he escapes Iron Point, he is about to get ran down by Marvin Silt, and just stands there looking like a deer in the headlights until his dog, Shadow, pushes him out of the way. Silt crashes his car into a tree and is knocked unconscious. Jack drags him out the car, takes his wallet and keys, and drives off, leaving Silt behind. He has to find him all over again in order to get some answers out of him. Jack does find him again, [[spoiler: but Eve shoots him before he can give Jack any info.]] Jack originally had him where he wanted him and could have kept him in the car while unconscious, and interrogated him once Jack found a safe place to hide out.out.
* The idiot ball lands squarely in the lap of the player for the climax of ''Videogame/FinalFantasyXIII''. The BigBad tells you that [[spoiler: you - as l'cie - are the only ones who can destroy Orphan, thus destroying Cocoon and wiping out humanity, which was precisely his plan for you all along. You tell him that you won't have any part of it, and that you and humanity are through with being his pawns. His backup plan? Manipulate the human army into attacking Orphan. But wait, human weapons can't hurt fal'cie, only l'cie magic can. So what exactly is the humans attack supposed to accomplish? Why, force you to go through with his master plan to prevent the human army from doing nothing but tickle it, of course. You could have just killed him instead of Orphan, but no...]] NiceJobBreakingItHero.
8th Jan '17 9:06:10 PM Yalsaris63
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* The ''VideoGame/XBeyondTheFrontier'' game as well as the ''X3'' trilogy and ''X: Rebirth'' sequels (''X2: The Threat'' is a completely different story altogether) would have never happened in the first place had the developers not written [[AllThereInTheManual the backstory]] that made responsible the existence of an IdiotPlot. Had the Terrans had the common sense to take their time to meticulously and thoroughly fix that one buggy software update meant for the Terraformers, there would be no rampant genocidal self-replicating robots out there to menace the galaxy, if not, the universe, and there also would not have been made possible the birth of an offshoot faction of the Terrans who would end up becoming a LostColony and then get locked into a GuiltFreeExterminationWar with their parent faction over seven centuries later because of paranoiac xenophobia of Artificial General Intelligence ships. It's not like there was some sort of deadline to test it out on the Terraformers or something (although we may never know if there was a something like that). However, since the virtue of patience isn't found on the Terrans, [[AIIsACrapshoot we all knew what happened next]]. It seems the developers decided to make an IdiotPlot [[EnforcedTrope the driving force]] of the X-Universe games as we know today.

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* The ''VideoGame/XBeyondTheFrontier'' game as well as the ''X3'' trilogy and ''X: Rebirth'' sequels (''X2: The Threat'' is a completely different story altogether) would have never happened in the first place had the developers not written [[AllThereInTheManual the backstory]] that made responsible the existence of an IdiotPlot. Had the Terrans had the common sense to take their time to meticulously and thoroughly fix that one buggy software update meant for the Terraformers, there would be no rampant genocidal self-replicating robots out there to menace the galaxy, if not, the universe, and there also would not have been made possible the birth of an offshoot faction of the Terrans who would end up becoming a LostColony and then get locked into a GuiltFreeExterminationWar with their parent faction over seven centuries later because of paranoiac xenophobia of Artificial General Intelligence ships. It's not like there was some sort of deadline to test it out on the Terraformers or something (although we may never know if there was a something like that). However, [[HumansAreMorons since the virtue of patience isn't found on the Terrans, Terrans]], [[AIIsACrapshoot we all knew what happened next]]. It seems the developers decided to make an IdiotPlot [[EnforcedTrope the driving force]] of the X-Universe games as we know today.
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