History HypercompetentSidekick / RealLife

31st May '16 2:36:11 AM Doug86
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* A frequent occurrence in Prussia/the German Empire from 1812-1918. Field commands were traditionally given to high-ranking nobles, who were raised for the task but nevertheless had varying levels of competence. After Prussia's crushing defeat to Napoleon at the Battle of Jena (1806), [[TheChessmaster Gerhard von Scharnhorst]] was put in charge of reforming the Prussian military, and came up with the idea of retaining the contemporary social structure, while cleverly undermining it by forcing the Field Marshals to co-operate with their Chiefs of Staff, who were appointed on Scharnhorst's advice. The most notable example of this was [[AccidentalHero Field Marshall Paul von Hindenburg]], who became a national hero and public icon during WorldWarOne, even though most of his decisions were made by the obscure no-name [[ManBehindTheMan Erich Ludendorff]].

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* A frequent occurrence in Prussia/the German Empire from 1812-1918. Field commands were traditionally given to high-ranking nobles, who were raised for the task but nevertheless had varying levels of competence. After Prussia's crushing defeat to Napoleon at the Battle of Jena (1806), [[TheChessmaster Gerhard von Scharnhorst]] was put in charge of reforming the Prussian military, and came up with the idea of retaining the contemporary social structure, while cleverly undermining it by forcing the Field Marshals to co-operate with their Chiefs of Staff, who were appointed on Scharnhorst's advice. The most notable example of this was [[AccidentalHero Field Marshall Paul von Hindenburg]], who became a national hero and public icon during WorldWarOne, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, even though most of his decisions were made by the obscure no-name [[ManBehindTheMan Erich Ludendorff]].
17th Oct '15 8:57:48 AM RyanW
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* To a degree, Stonewall Jackson, James Longstreet, and J. E. B. Stuart were this to Robert E. Lee. Lee was certainly no slouch, but at Gettysburg, with Jackson dead and Longstreet at odds with him, Lee made some major tactical blunders that are often interpreted as his having become dependent on a team of {{Hyper Competent Sidekick}}s he could trust with the details of carrying out his orders.
13th Oct '15 9:59:02 AM CompletelyNormalGuy
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*** As the chief if staff in the Eastern Front, Hoffmann would pull off another one, masterminding the defeat (and collapse) of the Russian Empire while Prince Leopold of Bavaria was nominally in charge.

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*** As the chief if of staff in the Eastern Front, Hoffmann would pull off another one, masterminding the defeat (and collapse) of the Russian Empire while Prince Leopold of Bavaria was nominally in charge.
6th Dec '14 9:17:10 AM h27kim
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*** As the chief if staff in the Eastern Front, Hoffmann would pull off another one, masterminding the defeat (and collapse) of the Russian Empire while Prince Leopold of Bavaria was nominally in charge.
1st Nov '14 2:58:41 PM Patachou
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* Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa was this for Octavian, later EmperorAugustus. While Octavian was a highly competent administrator, he needed someone who could match wits with Mark Antony on the battlefield and come out on top. That was Agrippa. He managed to absolutely crush not only the remnants of the conservative resistance to the Second Triumvirate, but also obliterate Antony's forces both at sea and on land. It is widely accepted that Octavian may never have become emperor if he did not have Agrippa handling the military side of things.

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* Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa was this for Octavian, later EmperorAugustus.Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Augustus}}. While Octavian was a highly competent administrator, he needed someone who could match wits with Mark Antony on the battlefield and come out on top. That was Agrippa. He managed to absolutely crush not only the remnants of the conservative resistance to the Second Triumvirate, but also obliterate Antony's forces both at sea and on land. It is widely accepted that Octavian may never have become emperor if he did not have Agrippa handling the military side of things.



* Vice President Walter Mondale was this to JimmyCarter, serving as Carter's troubleshooter (particularly in foreign affairs).[[note]]Mondale's foreign affairs experience later earned him an appointment as ambassador to Japan under the Clinton administration.[[/note]] RichardNixon filled the same role for Eisenhower. Prior to Mondale and Nixon the vice-presidency was little more than a ceremonial posting, and usually a dead end for a political career.
* Vice President Dick Cheney was widely lampooned as TheManBehindTheMan to President GeorgeWBush and is thought to have been the architect of a lot of his foreign policy.

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* Vice President Walter Mondale was this to JimmyCarter, UsefulNotes/JimmyCarter, serving as Carter's troubleshooter (particularly in foreign affairs).[[note]]Mondale's foreign affairs experience later earned him an appointment as ambassador to Japan under the Clinton administration.[[/note]] RichardNixon UsefulNotes/RichardNixon filled the same role for Eisenhower. Prior to Mondale and Nixon the vice-presidency was little more than a ceremonial posting, and usually a dead end for a political career.
* Vice President Dick Cheney was widely lampooned as TheManBehindTheMan to President GeorgeWBush UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush and is thought to have been the architect of a lot of his foreign policy.



* Nixon had his Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

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* Nixon had his Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.UsefulNotes/HenryKissinger.
25th Mar '14 2:12:20 AM almightyblue
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* Stunt doubles, in general. They often work harder than the star they're standing in for, and are on screen during most of the best parts. In a particularly action-heavy movie, it could be said that the stuntman is the real star, and the other guy is just his "face double."
** This claim has very little merit though. The stuntmen usually cant act well themselves and thus couldnt replace the actor in the first place. They are only chosen and paid for their ability to avoid damaging themselves. And because nobody knows their face, they can be easily replaced, a very important property for a movie set for which every day of not shooting is most extremely expensive. So this really not a good example.

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* Stunt doubles, in general. They often work harder than the star they're standing in for, and are on screen during most of the best parts. In a particularly action-heavy movie, it could be said that the stuntman is the real star, and the other guy is just his "face double."
** This claim has very little merit though. The stuntmen usually cant act well themselves and thus couldnt replace the actor in the first place. They are only chosen and paid for their ability to avoid damaging themselves. And because nobody knows their face, they can be easily replaced, a very important property for a movie set for which every day of not shooting is most extremely expensive. So this really not a good example.
11th Feb '14 5:42:04 AM Baratsoss
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** This claim has very little merit though. The stuntmen usually cant act well themselves and thus couldnt replace the actor in the first place. They are only chosen and paid for their ability to avoid damaging themselves. And because nobody knows their face, they can be easily replaced, a very important property for a movie set for which every day of not shooting is most extremely expensive. So this really not a good example.
26th Aug '13 2:06:04 PM Snarf
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*** Ivan Konev was in turn Zhukov's HypercompetentSidekick, being just as talented and more intimately involved with the actual fighting.
12th Aug '13 8:26:04 PM freemanp
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** It was even common among Americans who did not think well of the Bush Administration to insinuate that it was, in fact, the Cheney Administration.
27th Jun '13 12:56:34 AM Snarf
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** Pretty much the entire civil service in the United States operates this way: agencies and departments are nominally run by political appointees but the day-to-day work is done by career professionals, some of whom have served through multiple administrations and even more appointees.
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