History HumansAreTheRealMonsters / VideoGames

21st May '16 7:39:39 AM Materioptikon
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** Though there is also Philemon, The Crawling Chaos' rival, who incarnates humans' positive, constructive aspects, and who may embody this trope even better than Nyarlathotep, in his own way - you kinda expect the personified essence of humanity's evil to be a total asshole, but you don't expect his opposite to be as colossal a dick as Phil.

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** Though there is also Philemon, The Crawling Chaos' rival, who incarnates humans' positive, constructive positive aspects, and who may embody this trope even better than Nyarlathotep, in his own way - you kinda expect the personified essence of humanity's evil to be a total asshole, but you don't expect his opposite to be as colossal a dick as Phil.
21st May '16 7:39:22 AM Materioptikon
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** Though there is also Philemon, The Crawling Chaos' rival who believes humanity can become enlightened, and who may embody this trope even better than Nyarlathotep, in his own way -- you kinda expect the personified essence of humanity's evil to be a total asshole, but you don't quite expect his opposite to be as colossal a dick as Phil.

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** Though there is also Philemon, The Crawling Chaos' rival rival, who believes humanity can become enlightened, incarnates humans' positive, constructive aspects, and who may embody this trope even better than Nyarlathotep, in his own way -- - you kinda expect the personified essence of humanity's evil to be a total asshole, but you don't quite expect his opposite to be as colossal a dick as Phil.
21st May '16 7:37:59 AM Materioptikon
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** Though there is also Philemon, The Crawling Chaos' rival who believes humanity can become enlightened, and who may embody this trope even better than Nyarlathotep, in his own way -- you kinda expect the personified essence of humanity's evil to be a total asshole, but you don't quite expect his opposite to be the dick Philemon acts like.

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** Though there is also Philemon, The Crawling Chaos' rival who believes humanity can become enlightened, and who may embody this trope even better than Nyarlathotep, in his own way -- you kinda expect the personified essence of humanity's evil to be a total asshole, but you don't quite expect his opposite to be the as colossal a dick Philemon acts like.as Phil.
21st May '16 7:37:18 AM Materioptikon
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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona}}'' games gave us the AnthropomorphicPersonification of this trope in Nyarlathotep - an entity literally created as [[TheHeartless the dark, destructive side of the collective unconscious]], [[MadeOfEvil a monstrous entity born of Humanity's hatred, fear and despair]]. [[AsLongAsThereIsEvil He will exist as long as Humanity does]]. He has been known to [[OmnicidalManiac indulge in omnicidal plans]]... [[VideoGame/{{Persona2}} and he has been]] [[TheBadGuyWins known to win]].
** Of course, He of the Thousand Masks takes his name from a Lovecraftian EldritchAbomination who just likes to mess with sapient life.
** Though there is also Philemon, The Crawling Chaos' rival who believes humanity can become enlightened.
*** Although Philemon himself may embody this trope even better than Nyarlathotep, in his own way -- you kinda expect the personified essence of humanity's evil to be a total asshole, but you don't quite expect his opposite to be the dick Philemon acts like.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona}}'' games gave us the AnthropomorphicPersonification of this trope in Nyarlathotep - an entity literally created as [[TheHeartless the dark, destructive side of the collective unconscious]], [[MadeOfEvil a monstrous entity born of Humanity's hatred, fear and despair]]. [[AsLongAsThereIsEvil He will exist as long as Humanity does]]. He has been known to [[OmnicidalManiac indulge in omnicidal plans]]... [[VideoGame/{{Persona2}} and he has been]] [[TheBadGuyWins known to win]].
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win]]. Of course, He of the Thousand Masks takes his name from a Lovecraftian EldritchAbomination who just likes to mess with sapient life.
** Though there is also Philemon, The Crawling Chaos' rival who believes humanity can become enlightened.
*** Although Philemon himself
enlightened, and who may embody this trope even better than Nyarlathotep, in his own way -- you kinda expect the personified essence of humanity's evil to be a total asshole, but you don't quite expect his opposite to be the dick Philemon acts like.
17th Apr '16 11:28:08 PM Jokubas
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* Most of the sentient races in ''VideoGame/GuildWars'' are pretty bastard-y in their own ways, but the Charr see the humans as this for driving them out of Ascalon more than a thousand years ago.
15th Mar '16 1:27:21 AM dasuberkaiser
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** ''VideoGame/TalesOfLegendia'' uses something like this as a plot twist. There are two types of people on that world, Ferines, the people of the sea, and Oerines, the people of the land. The game highly drops a lot of hints that one of them wasn't exactly native to the world. Naturally, you assume after seeing the technology in The Legacy that [[spoiler:the Ferines weren't native]]. However, it's revealed in a surprise twist that [[spoiler:It's actually the ''Oerines'' who are the aliens who came to the world in The Legacy, not the Ferines! They don't need land - they live in the water after all.]] Despite that in the past, one of the Human Groups Were Bastards, but so were the other to get revenge, and in that only ''some'' were bastards. (Quite a bit of the [[spoiler:Ferines]] even want to start opening up peace talks again, once the Raging Nerifes was calmed down and replaced with the alter ego, the Quiet Nerifes, later called the Great Nerifes.)

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** ''VideoGame/TalesOfLegendia'' uses something like this as a plot twist. There are two types of people on that world, Ferines, the people of the sea, and Oerines, the people of the land. The game highly drops a lot of hints that one of them wasn't exactly native to the world. Naturally, you assume after seeing the technology in The Legacy that [[spoiler:the Ferines weren't native]]. However, it's revealed in a surprise twist that [[spoiler:It's [[spoiler:it's actually the ''Oerines'' who are the aliens who came to the world in The Legacy, not the Ferines! They don't need land - they live in the water after all.]] Despite that in the past, one of the Human Groups Were Bastards, but so were the other to get revenge, and in that only ''some'' were bastards. (Quite a bit of the [[spoiler:Ferines]] even want to start opening up peace talks again, once the Raging Nerifes was calmed down and replaced with the alter ego, the Quiet Nerifes, later called the Great Nerifes.)
17th Jan '16 6:09:21 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''StarControl'' universe humans are hardly one of the evil races, but they have had their... poor moments. They designed a race of super-intelligent clones, the Androsynth, then declared them inferior and put them into manual labor. This backfired rather spectacularly when the Androsynth, being more intelligent than your average Joe, still invented hyperspace travel before the humans, escaped, and eventually joined the Ur-Quan Hierarchy, hoping for some sweet revenge.

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* In the ''StarControl'' ''VideoGame/StarControl'' universe humans are hardly one of the evil races, but they have had their... poor moments. They designed a race of super-intelligent clones, the Androsynth, then declared them inferior and put them into manual labor. This backfired rather spectacularly when the Androsynth, being more intelligent than your average Joe, still invented hyperspace travel before the humans, escaped, and eventually joined the Ur-Quan Hierarchy, hoping for some sweet revenge.
14th Jan '16 4:30:07 PM PurrElise
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** But on subsequent playthroughs, you learn that [[spoiler:the Fallen Human [[HelloInsertNameHere you named at the beginning of the game]], who is not the character you play as,]] felt this way for unstated reasons and sought to wipe out humanity -- and their failed attempt at doing so led to the creation of the game's only true villain. On the other hand, [[that doesn't really change the human/monster dynamic, since the only villainous character who doesn't straight-up lack a soul is still human]]. Either way, the message seems to be that cynicism, and turning one's back on an entire species, will only make things worse for everyone.

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** But on subsequent playthroughs, you learn that [[spoiler:the Fallen Human [[HelloInsertNameHere you named at the beginning of the game]], who is not the character you play as,]] felt this way for unstated reasons and sought to wipe out humanity -- and their failed attempt at doing so led to the creation of the game's only true villain. On the other hand, [[that [[spoiler:that doesn't really change the human/monster dynamic, since the only villainous character who doesn't straight-up lack a soul is still human]]. Either way, the message seems to be that cynicism, and turning one's back on an entire species, will only make things worse for everyone.
14th Dec '15 5:23:12 PM ThePocket
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* ''{{Undertale}}'' purposely dances around this trope. For a while, it seems to be played straight. The monsters who initially try to fight you are easily won over by kindness, and even the ones determined to kill you and use your soul to free themselves from their imprisonment underground can't bring themselves to harm you if you refuse to fight back. Plaques fleshing out the details of the ancient war between humans and monsters give the impression that the war was a lot more one-sided than initially let on. Then there's this zinger from one of the books in the Snowdin Library, which could practically be the page quote for this trope:
-->Love, hope, compassion... This is what people say monster [=SOULs=] are made of. But the absolute nature of "SOUL" is unknown. After all, humans have proven their [=SOULs=] don't need these things to exist.
** But on subsequent playthroughs, you learn that [[spoiler:the Fallen Human [[HelloInsertNameHere you named at the beginning of the game]], who is not the character you play as,]] felt this way for unstated reasons and sought to wipe out humanity -- and their failed attempt at doing so led to the creation of the game's only true villain. On the other hand, [[that doesn't really change the human/monster dynamic, since the only villainous character who doesn't straight-up lack a soul is still human]]. Either way, the message seems to be that cynicism, and turning one's back on an entire species, will only make things worse for everyone.
25th Oct '15 3:24:23 AM SuperLlama
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** There's also the fact that [[spoiler: Weil, the single most vile villain in Mega Man canon, is a human.]]
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