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7th Jun '16 8:14:32 AM DoctorTItanX
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** [[TheHero Ichigo]] believes in fighting his way. He won't let his hollow get in the way of that, even if disadvantages him to do so. His hollow taking over allowed him to not only survive Byakuya's killing blow, but to gain the upper hand and badly wound Byakuya. Upon regaining control, Ichigo apologised to Byakuya and asked if they could start the fight over. It was the first time Byakuya realised Ichigo had a lot more honour to him than he'd realised and, fortunately for Ichigo, he agreed.
** Ichigo displayed this trait again against Ulquiorra. Ichigo, at the verge of death, was so completely taken over by his [[SuperpoweredEvilSide hollow]] that he lost all reason and not only overwhelmed Ulquiorra with raw power, but even stabbed Uryuu for trying to calm him down. When Ichigo regains control, and sees what he's done to both Ulquiorra and Uryuu, he insists that the only way he'll continue fighting Ulquiorra is if he's given the same injuries in compensation. ''This means chopping off an arm and a leg''. [[spoiler: Ulquiorra's too far gone, however, and dies before Ichigo can carry through his vow.]] It's especially bad because Ulquiorra has very clearly displayed that he can easily regenerate limbs. The fight would be even again if Ichigo just stood by and allowed him to heal up a bit naturally so the offer to have his own limbs cut off is exceptionally irrational.

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** [[TheHero Ichigo]] believes in fighting his way. He won't let his hollow Hollow get in the way of that, even if disadvantages him to do so. His hollow Hollow taking over allowed him to not only survive Byakuya's killing blow, but to gain the upper hand and badly wound Byakuya. Upon regaining control, Ichigo apologised to Byakuya and asked if they could start the fight over. It was the first time Byakuya realised Ichigo had a lot more honour to him than he'd realised and, fortunately for Ichigo, he agreed.
** Ichigo displayed this trait again against Ulquiorra. Ichigo, at the verge of death, was so completely taken over by his [[SuperpoweredEvilSide hollow]] Hollow]] that he lost all reason and not only overwhelmed Ulquiorra with raw power, but even stabbed Uryuu for trying to calm him down. When Ichigo regains control, and sees what he's done to both Ulquiorra and Uryuu, he insists that the only way he'll continue fighting Ulquiorra is if he's given the same injuries in compensation. ''This means chopping off an arm and a leg''. [[spoiler: Ulquiorra's too far gone, however, and dies before Ichigo can carry through his vow.]] It's especially bad because Ulquiorra has very clearly displayed that he can easily regenerate limbs. The fight would be even again if Ichigo just stood by and allowed him to heal up a bit naturally so the offer to have his own limbs cut off is exceptionally irrational.



** Ukitake placed so much value on honour that he ignored his own misgivings and allowed Kaien to avenge his murdered wife. When Kaien requested Ukitake and Rukia stay out of the fight no matter way, Ukitake agreed and explained to Rukia that there was a difference between a fight for life and a fight for pride. Unfortunately, the culprit wasn't a normal hollow and had a special ability that proved Kaien's undoing.

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** Ukitake placed so much value on honour that he ignored his own misgivings and allowed Kaien to avenge his murdered wife. When Kaien requested Ukitake and Rukia stay out of the fight no matter way, Ukitake agreed and explained to Rukia that there was a difference between a fight for life and a fight for pride. Unfortunately, the culprit wasn't a normal hollow Hollow and had a special ability that proved Kaien's undoing.



** Yamamoto lost his left arm in the battle against Aizen. Afterwards, he chooses to leave it as it is, even though [[HealingHands Orihime]] would easily be able to restore it. He says he didn't think it would be right to ask a human for help in a matter that should have only involved shinigami. [[spoiler:Yhwach mocks him for this attitude, pointing out that if he still had both arms, he might have stood a chance against him, before killing Yamamoto.]]

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** Yamamoto lost his left arm in the battle against Aizen. Afterwards, he chooses to leave it as it is, even though [[HealingHands Orihime]] would easily be able to restore it. He says he didn't think it would be right to ask a human for help in a matter that should have only involved shinigami. [[spoiler:Yhwach completely mocks him for this attitude, pointing out that if he still had both arms, he might have stood a chance against him, before killing Yamamoto.]]



** Josuke Higashikata is the poster child of this trope. In a series where AnyoneCanDie he holds the distinction of having not killed a single human, despite the deaths of people around him, including his grandfather early on! Of course, that's just [[TechnicalPacifist not taking their life...]]
** In the Part 7, Steel Ball Run, Ringo Roadagain is determined to make sure that not only is he aware of everything that could play a role in a duel; he wants his opponent to be likewise aware. There's actually a good reason for this--those duels are to help purify his spirit of uncertainty. If neither side has an advantage (and before you ask, although Mandom's good at [[GroundhogDayLoop saving Ringo's neck,]] it gives his opponent the same capacity to avoid Ringo's attacks), then he can be sure that his victories were genuinely deserved.

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** Josuke Higashikata is the poster child of this trope. In a series where AnyoneCanDie AnyoneCanDie, he holds the distinction of having not killed a single human, despite the deaths of people around him, including his grandfather early on! Of course, that's just [[TechnicalPacifist not taking their life...]]
** In the Part 7, Steel Ball Run, Ringo Roadagain is determined to make sure that not only is he aware of everything that could play a role in a duel; he wants his opponent to be likewise aware. There's actually a good great reason for this--those duels are to help purify his spirit of uncertainty. If neither side has an advantage (and before you ask, although Mandom's good at [[GroundhogDayLoop saving Ringo's neck,]] it gives his opponent the same capacity to avoid Ringo's attacks), then he can be sure that his victories were genuinely deserved.
2nd Jun '16 10:23:43 AM Willbyr
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* Despite the carnage that inevitably occurs around him, and his superhuman skill with a gun, Vash the Stampede from ''{{Trigun}}'' is absolutely determined never to kill anyone. This puts him in increasingly tighter positions as the series progresses, [[spoiler:until he has to choose between killing a villain with his own gun or allowing his friends to be killed. He shoots. Or maybe the villain forced Vash to shoot him with his mind control powers. It's plausible that he would rather just force Vash to kill him than see Vash maintain his no killing rule (even though it would have caused Vash great suffering from guilt). Vash himself might not even know which happened.]] Fortunately, Vash is practically the platonic ideal of ImprobableAimingSkills, and even towards the end, there's very little death that could have been resolved by him shooting to kill, [[spoiler: unless you count him not killing Knives a long time ago.]]

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* Despite the carnage that inevitably occurs around him, and his superhuman skill with a gun, Vash the Stampede from ''{{Trigun}}'' ''Manga/{{Trigun}}'' is absolutely determined never to kill anyone. This puts him in increasingly tighter positions as the series progresses, [[spoiler:until he has to choose between killing a villain with his own gun or allowing his friends to be killed. He shoots. Or maybe the villain forced Vash to shoot him with his mind control powers. It's plausible that he would rather just force Vash to kill him than see Vash maintain his no killing rule (even though it would have caused Vash great suffering from guilt). Vash himself might not even know which happened.]] Fortunately, Vash is practically the platonic ideal of ImprobableAimingSkills, and even towards the end, there's very little death that could have been resolved by him shooting to kill, [[spoiler: unless you count him not killing Knives a long time ago.]]
1st Jun '16 7:27:22 AM Willbyr
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* ''Manga/{{InuYasha}}'':

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* ''Manga/{{InuYasha}}'': ''Manga/InuYasha'':



* LampshadeHanging: Both protagonist and antagonist fall victim to this line of thinking in ''{{Claymore}}''. An awakened being [[spoiler:Ophelia]] puts all of her vulnerable, human portions at her tail and challenges Claire to cut through the awakened being's body using her dangerous "Flash Sword" technique. As Claire begins the test of mettle, [[spoiler:Ophelia]] thinks to herself, "The fool, she could've just ignored me and aimed right for my tail." [[spoiler:Ophelia]] seems to slightly realize that she too is guilty of honor before reason since she agreed to put all of her vulnerable parts in one easy to target place. As she continues to berate Claire's foolishness, [[spoiler:Ophelia]] thinks to herself, "Wait, who am I talking about?"

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* LampshadeHanging: Both protagonist and antagonist fall victim to this line of thinking in ''{{Claymore}}''.''Manga/{{Claymore}}''. An awakened being [[spoiler:Ophelia]] puts all of her vulnerable, human portions at her tail and challenges Claire to cut through the awakened being's body using her dangerous "Flash Sword" technique. As Claire begins the test of mettle, [[spoiler:Ophelia]] thinks to herself, "The fool, she could've just ignored me and aimed right for my tail." [[spoiler:Ophelia]] seems to slightly realize that she too is guilty of honor before reason since she agreed to put all of her vulnerable parts in one easy to target place. As she continues to berate Claire's foolishness, [[spoiler:Ophelia]] thinks to herself, "Wait, who am I talking about?"
18th Apr '16 5:28:23 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* In the original version of episode 2 of ''Anime/YuGiOh'', Pegasus points out that Yugi could have won at one point. Yugi explains that he couldn't let the match end while his monster was under Pegasus' control. Pegasus calls him a fool.
** In the virtual world arc, Ooka/Johnson was caught cheating by Noa/Noah and Jonouchi/Joey would have won by default. However, Jonouchi insisted on finishing the duel. Never mind the fact that a. Jonouchi already had a huge disadvantage (no cards in his hand and no monsters on the field. And more importantly, they were dueling for their lifes as the loser would be trapped in the virtual world forever. [[LampshadeHanging Even Yugi and Anzu/Tea wondered what Jonouchi was thinking.]]

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In the original version of episode 2 of ''Anime/YuGiOh'', 2, Pegasus points out that Yugi could have won at one point. Yugi explains that he couldn't let the match end while his monster was under Pegasus' control. Pegasus calls him a fool.
** In the virtual world arc, Ooka/Johnson was caught cheating by Noa/Noah and Jonouchi/Joey would have won by default. However, Jonouchi insisted on finishing the duel. Never mind the fact that a. Jonouchi already had a huge disadvantage (no cards in his hand and no monsters on the field. And more field). Not to mention he had plenty of reasons to hate this guy anyway other than the cheating (Ooka was an AmoralAttorney who had admitted he had seen innocent men convicted, and had been insulting Jonouchi the whole time.) Most importantly, they were dueling for their lifes as the loser would be trapped in the virtual world forever. [[LampshadeHanging Even Yugi and Anzu/Tea wondered what Jonouchi was thinking.]]
3rd Apr '16 8:42:09 PM Gamermaster
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* Negi Springfield of ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima!'', in spite of being a talented young warrior, is so kind-hearted he even offered mercy to a Demon Lord ''who destroyed his village and crippled his sister.'' His kindness and merciful nature has almost cost him his life on more than one occasion.

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* Negi Springfield of ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima!'', in spite of being a talented young warrior, is so kind-hearted he even offered mercy to a Demon Lord ''who destroyed his village and crippled his sister.cousin.'' His kindness and merciful nature has almost cost him his life on more than one occasion.
13th Mar '16 10:14:45 PM ultimomant
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* When Train confronts Shiki near the end of ''Anime/BlackCat'', just before his final battle with Creed, he has, depending on whether it's the manga or the anime, either the ability to fire one last nanomachine-powered railgun shot for the day or an [[AppliedPhlebotinum Orichalcum bullet]] that can pierce any object. Just before the fight actually starts, he ends up firing it into the sky instead, just to show that he doesn't need it to beat Shiki ''or'' Creed.

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* When Train confronts Shiki near the end of ''Anime/BlackCat'', just before his final battle with Creed, he has, depending on whether it's the manga or the anime, either the ability to fire one last nanomachine-powered railgun shot for the day or an [[AppliedPhlebotinum Orichalcum bullet]] that can pierce any object. Just before the fight actually starts, he ends up firing it into the sky instead, just to show that he doesn't need it to beat Shiki ''or'' Creed.Creed.
* In ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', Sayaka refuses to replenish her strength with Grief Seeds, just because Homura uses them and Sayaka doesn't want to be anything like her. This was a very poor decision.
1st Feb '16 9:56:02 PM Willbyr
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* Subverted in (of all shows) ''TransformersArmada''. Faced with the choice of leaving his friend, Wheeljack, trapped in an inferno and going for help, or staying with him to the end, Hot Shot goes with the former, but is forced to abandon Wheeljack because his commander believed in TheNeedsOfTheMany over the principle of NoOneGetsLeftBehind, and refused to risk any more of his troops in the fire. Hot Shot defied his commander and tried to go back for Wheeljack, but by then the flames were too much for him to overcome. The decision is later regretted, out of both reasonable, genuine guilt, and the fact that Wheeljack survived, and did not...[[BestServedCold take abandonment very well]].

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* Subverted in (of all shows) ''TransformersArmada''.''Anime/TransformersArmada''. Faced with the choice of leaving his friend, Wheeljack, trapped in an inferno and going for help, or staying with him to the end, Hot Shot goes with the former, but is forced to abandon Wheeljack because his commander believed in TheNeedsOfTheMany over the principle of NoOneGetsLeftBehind, and refused to risk any more of his troops in the fire. Hot Shot defied his commander and tried to go back for Wheeljack, but by then the flames were too much for him to overcome. The decision is later regretted, out of both reasonable, genuine guilt, and the fact that Wheeljack survived, and did not...[[BestServedCold take abandonment very well]].



* In ''VinlandSaga'' it's more of a case of vengeance over reason, with Thorfinn risking life and limb to protect the man he wants to kill.

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* In ''VinlandSaga'' ''Manga/VinlandSaga'' it's more of a case of vengeance over reason, with Thorfinn risking life and limb to protect the man he wants to kill.



* Fate of ''Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', who, despite the insistence of her superiors, stayed inside the BigBad's CollapsingLair to try and stop the SelfDestructMechanism during the third season finale because there were innocent people trapped inside. Not to mention the time she freed her WorthyOpponent from the clutches of a monster out of instinct... which promptly got her berated by MissionControl because she was supposed to capture her.

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* Fate of ''Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', who, despite the insistence of her superiors, stayed inside the BigBad's CollapsingLair to try and stop the SelfDestructMechanism during the third season finale because there were innocent people trapped inside. Not to mention the time she freed her WorthyOpponent from the clutches of a monster out of instinct... which promptly got her berated by MissionControl because she was supposed to capture her.
22nd Jan '16 9:09:16 PM Willbyr
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* Theoretically this can be applied to the Dai-Gurren team in ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' because they tend to put ''[[HotBlooded everything]]'' before reason. Viral especially which is why he can [[BeyondTheImpossible break physical laws and do the impossible.]]

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* Theoretically this can be applied to the Dai-Gurren team in ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' because they tend to put ''[[HotBlooded everything]]'' before reason. Viral especially which is why he can [[BeyondTheImpossible break physical laws and do the impossible.]]
16th Jan '16 5:06:24 AM Nintendoman01
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** While generally a CombatPragmatist, Future Trunks falls into this at least once during the Cell Saga. After Cell becomes perfect, Trunks deliberately stands back and watches while Vegeta is getting his ass kicked because he knows Vegeta is too prideful to want his help, despite Krillin literally ''begging'' him to do something. He only steps in to fight after Vegeta is beaten unconscious.

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** While generally a CombatPragmatist, Future Trunks falls into this at least once during the Cell Saga. After Cell becomes perfect, Trunks deliberately stands back and watches while Vegeta is getting his ass kicked because he knows Vegeta is too prideful to want his help, despite Krillin literally ''begging'' him to do something.something, as well as the fact that Vegeta's pride is ''exactly'' why Cell was able to become perfect in the first place. He only steps in to fight after Vegeta is beaten unconscious.



* Hikaru from ''Manga/MagicKnightRayearth'' invokes this directly in the first season during her fight with [[BrainwashedandCrazy Lafarga]]. When Umi implores her to use her magic to save her life, Hikaru replies that ''The opponent is a swordsman. I won't use magic either'' despite the fact that using her fire magic would have done the job in an instant.

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* Hikaru from ''Manga/MagicKnightRayearth'' invokes this directly in the first season during her fight with [[BrainwashedandCrazy Lafarga]]. When Umi implores her to use her magic to save her life, Hikaru replies that ''The "The opponent is a swordsman. I won't use magic either'' either," despite the fact that using her fire magic would have done the job in an instant.
9th Jan '16 10:19:05 PM Gamermaster
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* Fate of ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', who, despite the insistence of her superiors, stayed inside the BigBad's CollapsingLair to try and stop the SelfDestructMechanism during the third season finale because there were innocent people trapped inside. Not to mention the time she freed her WorthyOpponent from the clutches of a monster out of instinct... which promptly got her berated by MissionControl because she was supposed to capture her.

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* Fate of ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', ''Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', who, despite the insistence of her superiors, stayed inside the BigBad's CollapsingLair to try and stop the SelfDestructMechanism during the third season finale because there were innocent people trapped inside. Not to mention the time she freed her WorthyOpponent from the clutches of a monster out of instinct... which promptly got her berated by MissionControl because she was supposed to capture her.
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