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** Alberto's envy of Luca and Giulia's relationship in general is quite full of this. While his personal abandonment issues are clearly influencing his attitude, quite a few viewers note that Alberto's jealousy feels similar to a boy being annoyed [[FriendVersusLover that his crush is paying more attention to a new friend instead of him]] rather than a form of platonic jealousy. While the film likely intends it as a dilemma of NewFriendEnvy, it's also interesting that, in a trio with one girl and two boys, it's one of the ''boys'' being "fought" over, as neither Luca or Alberto show any romantic interest in Giulia or vice-versa (Giulia is notably either ignorant or naive about Alberto's initial jealousy).

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** Alberto's envy of Luca and Giulia's relationship in general is quite full of this. While his personal abandonment issues are clearly influencing his attitude, quite a few viewers note that Alberto's jealousy feels similar to a boy being annoyed [[FriendVersusLover that his crush is paying more attention to a new friend instead of him]] rather than a form of platonic jealousy. While the film likely intends it as a dilemma of NewFriendEnvy, it's also interesting that, in a trio with one girl and two boys, it's one of the ''boys'' being "fought" over, as neither Luca or Alberto show any shows no romantic interest in Giulia or vice-versa (Giulia is notably either ignorant or naive about Alberto's initial jealousy).
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Given the film's focus on Luca and Alberto's friendship, on top of the two in general being really touchy-feely with each other (though this was more common in platonic friendships during the time the movie takes place). The film has no shortage of HoYay, to the point it has been [[FanNickname nicknamed]] "The Gay Fish Movie" by fans.

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Given [[WesternAnimation/{{Luca}} the film's film]]'s focus on Luca and Alberto's friendship, on top of the two in general being really touchy-feely with each other (though this was more common in platonic friendships during the time the movie takes place). The place), the film has no shortage of HoYay, to the point it has been [[FanNickname nicknamed]] "The Gay Fish Movie" by fans.
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--->'''Alberto:''' Hey. My friend smells ''AMAZING!''

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--->'''Alberto:''' -->'''Alberto:''' Hey. My friend smells ''AMAZING!''
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--->'''Ercole:''' Something's fishy with you two - I mean, besides the smell. You're hiding something!"

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--->'''Ercole:''' [[{{Pun}} Something's fishy with you two - I mean, besides the smell. smell.]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything You're hiding something!"something!]]
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** Alberto's envy of Luca and Giulia's relationship in general is quite full of this. While his personal abandonment issues are clearly influencing his attitude, quite a few viewers note that Alberto's jealousy feels similar to a boy being annoyed [[FriendVersusLover that his crush is paying more attention to a new friend instead of him]] rather than a form of platonic jealousy. While the film likely intends it as a dilemma of FriendshipFavoritism, it's also interesting that, in a trio with one girl and two boys, it's one of the ''boys'' being "fought" over, as neither Luca or Alberto show any romantic interest in Giulia or vice-versa (Giulia is notably either ignorant or naive about Alberto's initial jealousy).

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** Alberto's envy of Luca and Giulia's relationship in general is quite full of this. While his personal abandonment issues are clearly influencing his attitude, quite a few viewers note that Alberto's jealousy feels similar to a boy being annoyed [[FriendVersusLover that his crush is paying more attention to a new friend instead of him]] rather than a form of platonic jealousy. While the film likely intends it as a dilemma of FriendshipFavoritism, NewFriendEnvy, it's also interesting that, in a trio with one girl and two boys, it's one of the ''boys'' being "fought" over, as neither Luca or Alberto show any romantic interest in Giulia or vice-versa (Giulia is notably either ignorant or naive about Alberto's initial jealousy).
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** Alberto's envy of Luca and Giulia's relationship in general is quite full of this. While his personal abandonment issues are clearly influencing his attitude, quite a few viewers note that Alberto's jealousy feels similar to a boy being annoyed [[FriendVersusLover that his crush is paying more attention to a new friend instead of him]] rather than a form of platonic jealousy. While the film likely intends it as a dilemma of FriendshipFavoritism, it's also interesting that, in a trio with one girl and two boys, it's one of the ''boys'' being "fought" over, as neither Luca or Alberto show any romantic interest in Giulia.

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** Alberto's envy of Luca and Giulia's relationship in general is quite full of this. While his personal abandonment issues are clearly influencing his attitude, quite a few viewers note that Alberto's jealousy feels similar to a boy being annoyed [[FriendVersusLover that his crush is paying more attention to a new friend instead of him]] rather than a form of platonic jealousy. While the film likely intends it as a dilemma of FriendshipFavoritism, it's also interesting that, in a trio with one girl and two boys, it's one of the ''boys'' being "fought" over, as neither Luca or Alberto show any romantic interest in Giulia.Giulia or vice-versa (Giulia is notably either ignorant or naive about Alberto's initial jealousy).
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* A darker example, but when Ercole's trio corners Alberto and Luca, [[GoThroughMe Alberto immediately shields Luca from them.]] Later in the same scene, Luca returns the favor by raising a ''harpoon'' at Ercole harming Alberto. It's the closest we ever see Luca come to potentially ''harming'' anyone in the film aside from his fight with Alberto later on, and it's possible that if Ercole hadn't stopped, Luca might have tried using it.
** Disturbingly, several queer viewers describe the scene feeling reminiscent of a hate crime, with Ercole's group cornering and hurting a pair of boys they find "suspicious". While InUniverse, Ercole is talking about them being "fishy" tourists, out of universe, it sounds almost like he suspects the two of having a relationship.
--->'''Ercole:''' Something's fishy with you two - I mean, besides the smell. You're hiding something!"
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** Hilariously, when they actually leave, it turns out that all Alberto just wanted to show Luca that he added flames to the drawing of their Vespa, which he explains in a very serious tone. It's quite clear that he only dragged Luca away from Giulia because he wanted his full attention on him.

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** Hilariously, when they actually leave, it turns out that all Alberto just wanted to show Luca is [[SeriousBusiness that he added flames to the drawing of their Vespa, which he explains in a very serious tone. tone.]] It's quite clear that he only dragged Luca away from Giulia because he wanted his full attention on him.

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--->'''Alberto (To Luca about running away):''' We don't need school, we don't need anybody.



** Alberto's envy of Luca and Giulia's relationship in general is quite full of this. While his personal abandonment issues clearly are influencing his attitude, quite few viewers note that Alberto's jealousy feels quite similar to a boy being annoyed [[FriendVersusLover that his crush is paying more attention to a new friend instead of him]] and not being able to express himself properly [[PuppyLove because of his young age.]] While the film likely intends it as a dilemma of FriendshipFavoritism, it's also interesting that, in a trio with one girl and two boys, it's one of the ''boys'' being "fought" over, as neither Luca or Alberto show any romantic interest in Giulia.

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** Alberto's envy of Luca and Giulia's relationship in general is quite full of this. While his personal abandonment issues are clearly are influencing his attitude, quite a few viewers note that Alberto's jealousy feels quite similar to a boy being annoyed [[FriendVersusLover that his crush is paying more attention to a new friend instead of him]] and not being able to express himself properly [[PuppyLove because rather than a form of his young age.]] platonic jealousy. While the film likely intends it as a dilemma of FriendshipFavoritism, it's also interesting that, in a trio with one girl and two boys, it's one of the ''boys'' being "fought" over, as neither Luca or Alberto show any romantic interest in Giulia.Giulia.
** When Giulia shows Luca her book about astronomy, Alberto is waiting ''very'' impatiently from the window for Luca to hurry up and is nearly acting like a possessive boyfriend rather than a jealous friend. As they eventually leave, he shoots Giulia a DeathGlare, which some fans joke practically screams "Back off, he's mine!"
** Hilariously, when they actually leave, it turns out that all Alberto just wanted to show Luca that he added flames to the drawing of their Vespa, which he explains in a very serious tone. It's quite clear that he only dragged Luca away from Giulia because he wanted his full attention on him.
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* There's the Italian love song sung during the credits, "An Empty City." The lyrics speak of a city bustling with activity, and full of life. But the singer hopes and pleads that the one they truly love will return soon, because the city feels empty without them. ''"Come back to me, my love. And the city will be empty no longer, and I will live with you all of my days."''

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* There's the Italian love song sung during the credits, "An Empty City." The lyrics speak of a city bustling with activity, and full of life. But the singer hopes and pleads that the one they truly love will return soon, because the city feels empty without them. ''"Come back to me, my love. And the city will be empty no longer, and I will live with you all of my days."''"'' The song reads as a love ballad pertaining to Luca and Alberto, with Luca in Genova and Alberto working in Portorosso, [[IWillWaitForYou waiting to finally see each other again.]]
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--->'''Alberto:'''I'm his friend, I know what he needs."

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--->'''Alberto:'''I'm --->'''Alberto:''' I'm his friend, I know what he needs."

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** Alberto's envy of Luca and Giulia's relationship in general is quite full of this. While his personal abandonment issues clearly are influencing his attitude, quite few viewers note that Alberto's jealousy feels quite similar to a boy being annoyed [[FriendVersusLover that his crush is paying more attention to a new friend instead of him]] and not being able to express himself properly [[PuppyLove because of his young age.]] While the film likely intends it as a dilemma of FriendshipFavoritism, it's also interesting that, in a trio with one girl and two boys, it's one of the boys being "fought" over, as neither Luca or Alberto show genuine romantic interest in Giulia.

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** This exchange doesn't help.
--->'''Alberto:'''I'm his friend, I know what he needs."
--->'''Giulia:''' Oh yeah? And what does he need?
--->'''Alberto:''' [[DoubleEntendre Me!]] We'll just ride it like we did on the island - together.
** Alberto's envy of Luca and Giulia's relationship in general is quite full of this. While his personal abandonment issues clearly are influencing his attitude, quite few viewers note that Alberto's jealousy feels quite similar to a boy being annoyed [[FriendVersusLover that his crush is paying more attention to a new friend instead of him]] and not being able to express himself properly [[PuppyLove because of his young age.]] While the film likely intends it as a dilemma of FriendshipFavoritism, it's also interesting that, in a trio with one girl and two boys, it's one of the boys ''boys'' being "fought" over, as neither Luca or Alberto show genuine any romantic interest in Giulia.
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** Alberto's envy of Luca and Giulia's relationship in general is quite full of this. While his personal abandonment issues clearly are influencing his attitude, quite few viewers note that Alberto's jealousy feels quite similar to a boy being annoyed [[FriendVersusLover that his crush is paying more attention to a new friend instead of him]] and not being able to express himself properly [[PuppyLove because of his young age.]] While the film likely intends it as a dilemma of FriendshipFavoritism, it's also interesting that, in a trio with one girl and two boys, it's one of the boys being "fought" over, as neither Luca or Alberto show genuine romantic interest in Giulia.
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Given the film's focus on Luca and Alberto's friendship, on top of the two in general being really touchy-feely with each other (though this was more common in platonic friendships during the time the movie takes place). The film has no shortage of HoYay, to the point it has been [[FanNickname nicknamed]] "The Gay Fish Movie" by fans.
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* Luca's ImagineSpot of riding across the country with Alberto on the Vespa is very similar to other explicitly romantic Imagine Spots. When the Wild Vespas join in, together they are the colors of Italian, Green, White and Red. Green represents freedom, White represents faith and purity, and Red represents love. The boys are riding the Vespa of Love together.
** The boys' entire motivation for getting the Vespa in the first place is loaded with this, given that their plan is to [[RidingIntoTheSunset drive far away together]] and [[StargazingScene sleep under the stars.]] Alberto's emphasis that it should be just the two of them doesn't help, either.
* Alberto gets up in Ercole's face when he insults Luca, saying he smells like a ''pescheria'' (Italian for "fish shop" per the sign on Massimo's house). It's the same kind of intensity a guy would show if someone insulted his girlfriend, especially when it comes to smell.
--->'''Alberto:''' Hey. My friend smells ''AMAZING!''
* The bicycle scene just before the PlotMandatedFriendshipFailure. It's a blink-and-miss thing, but Alberto looks down and notices Giulia placing her hand on Luca's which causes him to flip and tell Giulia to back off.
* During the race, Luca decides to expose his sea monster form if it means helping Alberto (whose true form is already exposed to the watching crowd of people and who tells Luca not to move so he doesn't get exposed as well). He races forward on his bike, [[TakeMyHand and the two boys reach their hands out towards each other]] in a very climactic fashion.
* Then there's the TrainStationGoodbye which has Alberto running alongside the train as Luca heads off to Genova.
* There's the Italian love song sung during the credits, "An Empty City." The lyrics speak of a city bustling with activity, and full of life. But the singer hopes and pleads that the one they truly love will return soon, because the city feels empty without them. ''"Come back to me, my love. And the city will be empty no longer, and I will live with you all of my days."''
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