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* Scott and Jimmy's "alliance", being a [[ReincarnationRomance carry-over]] from their "Flower Husbands" dynamic from [[WebVideo/LifeSMP 3rd Life]], is only ''slightly'' less subtle than Joey's unrequited romance. Which is to say, not at all.

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* Scott and Jimmy's "alliance", being a [[ReincarnationRomance carry-over]] from their "Flower Husbands" dynamic from [[WebVideo/LifeSMP 3rd Life]], the WebVideo/ThirdLifeSMP, is only ''slightly'' less subtle than Joey's unrequited romance. Which is to say, not at all.
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** fWhip, being fWhip, doesn't regard pranking people by ''sending them Wardens'' to have malicious intent, and is extremely upset about this -- he [[FootDraggingDivorcee refuses to hand in his Deputy badge]], accuses Jimmy of hypocrisy in terms of writing and following the Law-book (of which he's RightForTheWrongReasons), and his message rebuking the resignation includes the line "You can do better babes" in the context of Jimmy allegedly disrespecting himself (e.g. apparently not taking care of himself).

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** fWhip, being fWhip, doesn't regard pranking people by ''sending them Wardens'' to have malicious intent, intent (apparently, they're protectors in Goblin lore), and is extremely upset about this -- he [[FootDraggingDivorcee refuses to hand in his Deputy badge]], accuses Jimmy of hypocrisy in terms of writing and following the Law-book (of which he's RightForTheWrongReasons), and his message rebuking the resignation includes the line "You can do better babes" in the context of Jimmy allegedly disrespecting himself (e.g. apparently not taking care of himself).
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* fWhip stays ''very'' devoted to enforcing the Law as the Sheriff's Deputy, but his dedication takes him to rather odd places, such as purchasing Joel's entire stock of Sheriff toys to build a ''shrine'' to the Law (while [[ShoutOut dressed as one of the LGM]], no less). He has also, for whatever reason, [[https://www.tumblr.com/belovedgamers/693948341780955136/the-men-kissing-empiresjimmy-saga-continues-ft given Jimmy a kiss once]], and when he gets fired as the Deputy, that's when things ''really'' start to hit the fan:

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* fWhip stays ''very'' devoted to enforcing the Law as the Sheriff's Deputy, but his dedication takes him to rather odd places, such as purchasing Joel's entire stock of Sheriff toys to build a ''shrine'' to the Law (while [[ShoutOut dressed as one of the LGM]], no less). He has also, for whatever reason, [[https://www.tumblr.com/belovedgamers/693948341780955136/the-men-kissing-empiresjimmy-saga-continues-ft given Jimmy a kiss once]], and when he gets fired as the Deputy, Deputy for his "Thank You for Coming to My Wedding" (in real life) Warden prank, that's when things ''really'' start to hit the fan:

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** From another perspective, after [[HeelFaceTurn striking out on a path to redemption]], Sausage seeks Jimmy out and the two discuss their past issues and make mutual apologies... which somehow ends with Sausage giving Jimmy a kiss, loudly claiming [[JustFriends it was platonic]], and the parting message to ''not tell Scott because he'd get [[CrazyJealousGuy upset]]'' and Sausage did not want to get any antlers in his face.[[note]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_knrUVPtFZI&t=720s Jimmy's POV here]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rkI-d80vQ&t=340s Sausage's POV here]].[[/note]]
*** On the other end, while Scott never says anything ''in-character'', around the same time as the episode's release, his content creator counterpart adds BreakupSong[=s=] to his official Flower Husbands playlist on Spotify ''and'' changes the playlist cover to fanart of his character crying. Yes, this is apparently how Empires fans get their lore these days.



** From another perspective, after [[HeelFaceTurn striking out on a path to redemption]], Sausage seeks Jimmy out and the two discuss their past issues and make mutual apologies... which somehow ends with Sausage giving Jimmy a kiss, loudly claiming [[JustFriends it was platonic]], and the parting message to ''not tell Scott because he'd get [[CrazyJealousGuy upset]]'' and Sausage did not want to get any antlers in his face.[[note]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_knrUVPtFZI&t=720s Jimmy's POV here]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rkI-d80vQ&t=340s Sausage's POV here]].[[/note]]
*** On the other end, while Scott never says anything ''in-character'', around the same time as the episode's release, his content creator counterpart adds BreakupSong[=s=] to his official Flower Husbands playlist on Spotify ''and'' changes the playlist cover to fanart of his character crying. Yes, this is apparently how Empires fans get their lore these days.

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** From another perspective, after [[HeelFaceTurn striking out on a path to redemption]], Sausage seeks Jimmy out and the two discuss their past issues and make mutual apologies... which somehow ends with Sausage giving Jimmy a kiss, loudly claiming [[JustFriends it was platonic]], and the parting message to ''not tell Scott because he'd get [[CrazyJealousGuy upset]]'' and Sausage did not want to get any antlers in his face.[[note]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_knrUVPtFZI&t=720s Jimmy's POV here]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rkI-d80vQ&t=340s Sausage's POV here]].[[/note]]
*** On the other end, while Scott never says anything ''in-character'', around the same time as the episode's release, his content creator counterpart adds BreakupSong[=s=] to his official Flower Husbands playlist on Spotify ''and'' changes the playlist cover to fanart of his character crying. Yes, this is apparently how Empires fans get their lore these days.

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--->'''Jimmy:''' Run. Quick- run, quickly, run. I don't- I honestly- I don't know why I'm here. I don't- I- Chat, I- I- this ain't sus! I don't know why I'm here! I- I- CHAT! CHAT, IT'S NOT WHAT YOU THINK!\\

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--->'''Jimmy:''' Run. Quick- Quick– run, quickly, run. I don't- don't– I honestly- honestly– I don't know why I'm here. I don't- I- don't– I– Chat, I- I– I- this ain't sus! I don't know why I'm here! I- I- I– I– CHAT! CHAT, IT'S NOT WHAT YOU THINK!\\




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* At the start of the Princess Tea Party, after Pix is introduced to the party as the King of the server, Joel walks up to him to smooch him... which devolves into ''everyone kissing each other'' while Gem and Katherine can only stand and watch in confusion (and False isn't in attendance).
-->'''Jimmy:''' WHAT IS THIS SERIES? WHAT ARE WE?!
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* Scott and Jimmy's "alliance", being a [[ReincarnationRomance carry-over]] from their "Flower Husbands" dynamic from [[LetsPlay/LifeSMP 3rd Life]], is only ''slightly'' less subtle than Joey's unrequited romance. Which is to say, not at all.

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* Scott and Jimmy's "alliance", being a [[ReincarnationRomance carry-over]] from their "Flower Husbands" dynamic from [[LetsPlay/LifeSMP [[WebVideo/LifeSMP 3rd Life]], is only ''slightly'' less subtle than Joey's unrequited romance. Which is to say, not at all.
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*** In the sequel LetsPlay/WitchCraftSMP, ten years after the events of Empires Season 2, Shelby is known to have a partner at home awaiting her return from the tournament. While it's not confirmed who the partner is exactly, we know she uses she/her pronouns, and may suggest that the two eventually get together off-screen and spend several happy years together.

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*** In the sequel LetsPlay/WitchCraftSMP, WebVideo/WitchCraftSMP, ten years after the events of Empires Season 2, Shelby is known to have a partner at home awaiting her return from the tournament. While it's not confirmed who the partner is exactly, we know she uses she/her pronouns, and may suggest that the two eventually get together off-screen and spend several happy years together.
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* Joel and Sausage share "joint custody" of Hermes, their 'Shulker child', and both of them consider themself and the other the child's "parents". Oh, and a RunningGag throughout the series, at least in its early days, is Joel making [[InnocentInnuendo suggestively-worded messages]] relating to the nature of the gift he gets Hermes to deliver to Sausage, with Sausage doing the same ''back''. What doesn't help is that the two explain to Scar that Hermes was created over "a one-night armour stand". Yes, it's canonically PlatonicCoParenting and they're canonically JustFriends, but the point stands.

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* Joel and Sausage share "joint custody" of Hermes, their 'Shulker child', and both of them consider themself and the other the child's "parents". Oh, and a RunningGag throughout the series, at least in its early days, is Joel making [[InnocentInnuendo suggestively-worded messages]] relating to the nature of the gift he gets Hermes to deliver to Sausage, with Sausage doing the same ''back''. What doesn't help is that the two explain to Scar that Hermes was created over "a one-night armour stand". Yes, it's canonically PlatonicCoParenting and they're canonically JustFriends, but the point stands.
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** On Jimmy's end, virtually ''everything'' up to this point can be perceived as platonic (at least, from his perspective)... but then his 15th episode dealing with the situation is titled, of all things, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3zgafVOolc "MY EX IS TRYING TO FRAME ME.."]] Now, there is ''no'' heterosexual explanation for ''this''.

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** On Jimmy's end, virtually ''everything'' up to this point can be perceived as platonic (at least, from his perspective)... but then his 15th episode dealing with the situation is titled, of all things, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3zgafVOolc "MY EX IS TRYING TO FRAME ME.."]] Now, there There is ''no'' heterosexual explanation for ''this''.this.
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** From another perspective, after [[HeelFaceTurn striking out on a path to redemption]], Sausage seeks Jimmy out and the two discuss their past issues and make mutual apologies... which somehow ends with Sausage giving Jimmy a kiss, loudly claiming [[JustFriends it was platonic]], and the parting message to ''not tell Scott because he'd get [[CrazyJealousGuy upset]]''.[[note]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_knrUVPtFZI&t=720s Jimmy's POV here]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rkI-d80vQ&t=340s Sausage's POV here]].[[/note]]

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** From another perspective, after [[HeelFaceTurn striking out on a path to redemption]], Sausage seeks Jimmy out and the two discuss their past issues and make mutual apologies... which somehow ends with Sausage giving Jimmy a kiss, loudly claiming [[JustFriends it was platonic]], and the parting message to ''not tell Scott because he'd get [[CrazyJealousGuy upset]]''.upset]]'' and Sausage did not want to get any antlers in his face.[[note]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_knrUVPtFZI&t=720s Jimmy's POV here]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rkI-d80vQ&t=340s Sausage's POV here]].[[/note]]
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** fWhip, being fWhip, doesn't regard pranking people by ''sending them Wardens'' to have malicious intent, and is extremely upset about this--he [[FootDraggingDivorcee refuses to hand in his Deputy badge]], accuses Jimmy of hypocrisy in terms of writing and following the Law-book (of which he's RightForTheWrongReasons), and his message rebuking the resignation includes the line "You can do better babes" in the context of Jimmy allegedly disrespecting himself (e.g. apparently not taking care of himself).
** On Jimmy's end, while virtually ''everything'' up to this point can be perceived as platonic (at least, from his perspective), his 15th episode dealing with the situation is titled, of all things, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3zgafVOolc "MY EX IS TRYING TO FRAME ME.."]]

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** fWhip, being fWhip, doesn't regard pranking people by ''sending them Wardens'' to have malicious intent, and is extremely upset about this--he this -- he [[FootDraggingDivorcee refuses to hand in his Deputy badge]], accuses Jimmy of hypocrisy in terms of writing and following the Law-book (of which he's RightForTheWrongReasons), and his message rebuking the resignation includes the line "You can do better babes" in the context of Jimmy allegedly disrespecting himself (e.g. apparently not taking care of himself).
** On Jimmy's end, while virtually ''everything'' up to this point can be perceived as platonic (at least, from his perspective), perspective)... but then his 15th episode dealing with the situation is titled, of all things, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3zgafVOolc "MY EX IS TRYING TO FRAME ME.."]]"]] Now, there is ''no'' heterosexual explanation for ''this''.
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*** On the other end, while Scott never says anything ''in-character'', around that same time, his content creator counterpart adds BreakupSong[=s=] to his official Flower Husbands playlist on Spotify ''and'' changes the playlist cover to fanart of his character crying.

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*** On the other end, while Scott never says anything ''in-character'', around that the same time, time as the episode's release, his content creator counterpart adds BreakupSong[=s=] to his official Flower Husbands playlist on Spotify ''and'' changes the playlist cover to fanart of his character crying.
crying. Yes, this is apparently how Empires fans get their lore these days.



* Joel and Sausage share "joint custody" of Hermes, their 'Shulker child', and both of them consider themself and the other the child's "parents", though they consider themselves JustFriends. Oh, and a RunningGag throughout the series, at least in its early days, is Joel making [[InnocentInnuendo suggestively-worded messages]] relating to the nature of the gift he gets Hermes to deliver to Sausage, with Sausage doing the same ''back''. What doesn't help is that the two explain to Scar that Hermes was created over "a one-night armour stand".

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* Joel and Sausage share "joint custody" of Hermes, their 'Shulker child', and both of them consider themself and the other the child's "parents", though they consider themselves JustFriends."parents". Oh, and a RunningGag throughout the series, at least in its early days, is Joel making [[InnocentInnuendo suggestively-worded messages]] relating to the nature of the gift he gets Hermes to deliver to Sausage, with Sausage doing the same ''back''. What doesn't help is that the two explain to Scar that Hermes was created over "a one-night armour stand". Yes, it's canonically PlatonicCoParenting and they're canonically JustFriends, but the point stands.
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* Scott and Jimmy's "alliance", being a [[ReincarnationRomance carry-over]] from their "Flower Husbands" dynamic from [[LetsPlay/LifeSMP 3rd Life]], is only ''slightly'' less subtle than Joey's unrequited romance.

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* Scott and Jimmy's "alliance", being a [[ReincarnationRomance carry-over]] from their "Flower Husbands" dynamic from [[LetsPlay/LifeSMP 3rd Life]], is only ''slightly'' less subtle than Joey's unrequited romance. Which is to say, not at all.
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* Joel and Sausage share "joint custody" of Hermes, their 'Shulker child', and [[HasTwoDaddies both of them consider themself and the other the child's "parents"]], though they consider themselves JustFriends. Oh, and a RunningGag throughout the series, at least in its early days, is Joel making [[InnocentInnuendo suggestively-worded messages]] relating to the nature of the gift he gets Hermes to deliver to Sausage, with Sausage doing the same ''back''. What doesn't help is that the two explain to Scar that Hermes was created over "a one-night armour stand".

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* Joel and Sausage share "joint custody" of Hermes, their 'Shulker child', and [[HasTwoDaddies both of them consider themself and the other the child's "parents"]], "parents", though they consider themselves JustFriends. Oh, and a RunningGag throughout the series, at least in its early days, is Joel making [[InnocentInnuendo suggestively-worded messages]] relating to the nature of the gift he gets Hermes to deliver to Sausage, with Sausage doing the same ''back''. What doesn't help is that the two explain to Scar that Hermes was created over "a one-night armour stand".
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** In Shelby's finale, after she's uncorrupted from the Sculk, she seeks out Katherine in [=GlimmerGrove=] and apologizes for yelling at her while BrainwashedAndCrazy, and Katherine advises against Shelby re-dyeing her hair dark after she's LockedIntoStrangeness, saying that her white hair is "beautiful" and "the colour of moonlight". Shelby also asks Katherine out for coffee, an invitation that Katherine accepts, hinting at a MaybeEverAfter.
*** In the sequel LetsPlay/WitchCraftSMP, ten years after the events of Empires Season 2, Shelby is known to have a partner at home awaiting her return from the tournament. While it's not confirmed who the partner is exactly, we know she uses she/her pronouns, and may suggest that the two eventually get together off-screen and spend several happy years together.
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*** On the other end, while Scott never says anything ''in-character'', around that same time, his content creator counterpart adds BreakupSong[=s=] to his official Flower Husbands playlist on Spotify ''and'' changes the playlist cover to fanart of his character crying. Now add the fact that Sausage ''[[MurderTheHypotenuse doesn't exist]]'' in character-Scott's PersonalizedAfterlife for unknown reasons...

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*** On the other end, while Scott never says anything ''in-character'', around that same time, his content creator counterpart adds BreakupSong[=s=] to his official Flower Husbands playlist on Spotify ''and'' changes the playlist cover to fanart of his character crying. Now add the fact that Sausage ''[[MurderTheHypotenuse doesn't exist]]'' in character-Scott's PersonalizedAfterlife for unknown reasons...\n
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** From another perspective, after [[HeelFaceTurn striking out on a path to redemption]], Sausage seeks Jimmy out and the two discuss their past issues and make mutual apologies... which somehow ends with Sausage giving Jimmy a kiss, loudly clarifying [[JustFriends it was platonic]], and the parting message to ''not tell Scott because he'd get [[CrazyJealousGuy upset]]''.[[note]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_knrUVPtFZI&t=720s Jimmy's POV here]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rkI-d80vQ&t=340s Sausage's POV here]].[[/note]]

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** From another perspective, after [[HeelFaceTurn striking out on a path to redemption]], Sausage seeks Jimmy out and the two discuss their past issues and make mutual apologies... which somehow ends with Sausage giving Jimmy a kiss, loudly clarifying claiming [[JustFriends it was platonic]], and the parting message to ''not tell Scott because he'd get [[CrazyJealousGuy upset]]''.[[note]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_knrUVPtFZI&t=720s Jimmy's POV here]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rkI-d80vQ&t=340s Sausage's POV here]].[[/note]]
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** It shows up again in a very roundabout way during Sausage's Halloween surprise party, as Scott shows up dressed as ''Bo Peep'' of all ''Toy Story'' characters. For context, in the ''Toy Story'' franchise, Woody and Bo Peep are an OfficialCouple.

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** It shows up again in a very roundabout way during Sausage's Halloween surprise party, as Scott shows up dressed as ''Bo Peep'' of all ''Toy Story'' characters. For context, in the ''Toy Story'' franchise, Woody and Bo Peep are an OfficialCouple. For comparison, real-life married couple Lizzie and Joel show up dressed as Barbie and Ken.
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** It shows up again in a very roundabout way during Sausage's Halloween surprise party, as Scott shows up dressed as ''Bo Peep'' of all ''Toy Story'' characters. For context, in the ''Toy Story'' franchise, Woody and Bo Peep are an OfficialCouple.
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* Joel and Sausage share "joint custody" of Hermes, their 'Shulker child', and [[HasTwoDaddies both of them consider themself and the other the child's "parents"]], though they consider themselves JustFriends. Oh, and a RunningGag throughout the series, at least in its early days, is Joel making [[InnocentInnuendo suggestively-worded messages]] relating to the nature of the gift he gets Hermes to deliver to Sausage, with Sausage doing the same ''back''.

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* Joel and Sausage share "joint custody" of Hermes, their 'Shulker child', and [[HasTwoDaddies both of them consider themself and the other the child's "parents"]], though they consider themselves JustFriends. Oh, and a RunningGag throughout the series, at least in its early days, is Joel making [[InnocentInnuendo suggestively-worded messages]] relating to the nature of the gift he gets Hermes to deliver to Sausage, with Sausage doing the same ''back''. What doesn't help is that the two explain to Scar that Hermes was created over "a one-night armour stand".



*** Averted afterwards, as during a discussion with Joey and Shelby, Katherine admits that she's working on a lot of stuff right now - particularly rebuilding her kingdom - and doesn't really feel attracted to anyone, so the three part as friends.

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*** Averted afterwards, as during a discussion with Joey and Shelby, Katherine admits that she's working on a lot of stuff right now - -- particularly rebuilding her kingdom - -- and doesn't really feel attracted to anyone, so the three part as friends.
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*** Averted afterwards, as during a discussion with Joey and Shelby, Katherine admits that she's working on a lot of stuff right now - particularly rebuilding her kingdom - and doesn't really feel attracted to anyone, so the three part as friends.
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* During the Rift Festival, Pirate Joe challenges Shelby to a duel to the death for Princess Katherine's heart. Shelby wins the duel, ultimately killing Joe with a spell when he reveals he's on half a heart. When Pirate Joe tries to blackmail Shelby immediately afterward, Katherine steps in and calls Joe delusional for trying to win her over by attacking Shelby.

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* ** During the Rift Festival, Pirate Joe challenges Shelby to a duel to the death for Princess Katherine's heart. Shelby wins the duel, ultimately killing Joe with a spell when he reveals he's on half a heart. When Pirate Joe tries to blackmail Shelby immediately afterward, Katherine steps in and calls Joe delusional for trying to win her over by attacking Shelby.

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* When Shelby hears about Joey trying to woo Katherine, she's ''very'' worried about that, and is intensely relieved when she hears that Katherine finds him repulsive. She also later comments that she might need to duel Joey for Katherine's heart, and claims to be very inspired by Katherine's muscles and dreams about being able to watch the princess work out one day.
** In Katherine's Episode 10, when she finds the mangrove propagule given to her by Shelby, she says that out of all the gifts she's been given recently, the propagule is her favorite.

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* While their Season 1 counterparts weren't quite as close, Katherine and Shelby have a very interesting dynamic building up in Season 2.
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When Shelby hears about Joey trying to woo Katherine, she's ''very'' worried about that, and is intensely relieved when she hears that Katherine finds him repulsive. She also later comments that she might need to duel Joey for Katherine's heart, and claims to be [[AmazonChaser very inspired by Katherine's muscles muscles]] and dreams about being able to watch the princess work out one day.
** In Katherine's Episode 10, when she finds the mangrove propagule given to her by Shelby, she says that out of all the gifts she's been given recently, the propagule is her favorite. In turn, she gifts Shelby a pink tulip, which Shelby places in a flowerpot on a shelf above her bed.
* During the Rift Festival, Pirate Joe challenges Shelby to a duel to the death for Princess Katherine's heart. Shelby wins the duel, ultimately killing Joe with a spell when he reveals he's on half a heart. When Pirate Joe tries to blackmail Shelby immediately afterward, Katherine steps in and calls Joe delusional for trying to win her over by attacking Shelby.



* During the Rift Festival, Pirate Joe challenges Shelby to a duel to the death for Princess Katherine's heart. Shelby wins the duel, ultimately killing Joe with a spell when he reveals he's on half a heart. When Pirate Joe tries to blackmail Shelby immediately afterward, Katherine steps in and calls Joe delusional for trying to win her over by attacking Shelby.

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* During the Rift Festival, Pirate Joe challenges Shelby to a duel to the death for Princess Katherine's heart. Shelby wins the duel, ultimately killing Joe with a spell when he reveals he's on half a heart. When Pirate Joe tries to blackmail Shelby immediately afterward, Katherine steps in and calls Joe delusional for trying to win her over by attacking Shelby.

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