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** This conversation was preceded by the Master scrambling for his phone (he'd had it in his pocket and on speaker) when he hears the Doctor's voice, holding it to his ear with an expression that looks somewhat like relief. Of course, he gets straight into setting off his next plot, but not before swallowing and quietly asking about Gallifrey.
1st Jun '17 11:06:48 AM narm00
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* On two separate occasions ("[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E6TheKeeperOfTraken The Keeper of Traken]]" and [[Recap/DoctorWhoTVMTheTVMovie]]), the Master tries to [[GrandTheftMe steal the Doctor's body]]; he literally wants to be inside the Doctor. The former plays this very sexually, with the Master at one point toying with the ends of the Doctor's long curly hair, while the latter has this line "This body will soon decay. I NEED THE DOCTOR'S BODY!"

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* On two separate occasions ("[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E6TheKeeperOfTraken The Keeper of Traken]]" and [[Recap/DoctorWhoTVMTheTVMovie]]), [[Recap/DoctorWhoTVMTheTVMovie the TV movie]]), the Master tries to [[GrandTheftMe steal the Doctor's body]]; he literally wants to be inside the Doctor. The former plays this very sexually, with the Master at one point toying with the ends of the Doctor's long curly hair, while the latter has this the line "This body will soon decay. I NEED THE DOCTOR'S BODY!"



* The Alex MacQueen incarnation of the Master, also in Creator/BigFinish, is ''by far'' the campest one of them all -- while still being very, very sinister. His plans for Seven involve merging the both of them into a single being, with Seven's mind as a slave to his own, so they can rule the galaxy together for all of eternity. (He fails, of course.) When he finally meets Eight, he spends a while simply admiring the Doctor's beauty, making appreciative noises and commenting on his hair.

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* The Alex MacQueen [=MacQueen=] incarnation of the Master, also in Creator/BigFinish, is ''by far'' the campest one of them all -- while still being very, very sinister. His plans for Seven involve merging the both of them into a single being, with Seven's mind as a slave to his own, so they can rule the galaxy together for all of eternity. (He fails, of course.) When he finally meets Eight, he spends a while simply admiring the Doctor's beauty, making appreciative noises and commenting on his hair.



--> "... still surprised that fans, on the whole, think Karl was in wuv with the Doctor but the Doctor didn't reciprocate. This is not unreasonable in light of canon, but, oh me oh my, I must be more subtle than I thought." [...] "The Doctor and Karl are at it like rabbits every time the reader isnít looking. However, the precise nature of their relationship is deliberately left ambiguous, so that the reader can interpret it as A) a passionate but platonic friendship or B) unrequited love on the part of Karl. However, I know the location of all the missing sex scenes." [...] "Well, there's the weight of 40 years of apparently sexless Doctor on their side; plus the relationship is *meant* to ambiguous, so people can interpret it to their comfort level. What surprises me is so few readers *do* think that Karl and the Doctor have to do some fast buttoning and zipping every time I cut back to them." [...] "I wanted to let readers decide for themselves what was happening between the [[strike:sheets]] pages, as a way of showing that you could do a love story for the Doctor with a bit of subtlety and gentleness."

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--> "... still surprised that fans, on the whole, think Karl was in wuv with the Doctor but the Doctor didn't reciprocate. This is not unreasonable in light of canon, but, oh me oh my, I must be more subtle than I thought." [...] "The Doctor and Karl are at it like rabbits every time the reader isnít looking. However, the precise nature of their relationship is deliberately left ambiguous, so that the reader can interpret it as A) a passionate but platonic friendship or B) unrequited love on the part of Karl. However, I know the location of all the missing sex scenes." [...] "Well, there's the weight of 40 years of apparently sexless Doctor on their side; plus the relationship is *meant* to be ambiguous, so people can interpret it to their comfort level. What surprises me is so few readers *do* think that Karl and the Doctor have to do some fast buttoning and zipping every time I cut back to them." [...] "I wanted to let readers decide for themselves what was happening between the [[strike:sheets]] pages, as a way of showing that you could do a love story for the Doctor with a bit of subtlety and gentleness."



* Jean and Phyllis in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E2TheCurseOfFenric The Curse of Fenric]]", who also seem rather determined to get Ace to join them early on, and after [[spoiler:they become [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Haemovores]]]] they tell her, "You should have come into the water with us. Then we'd have been together." This is another case where the novelisation goes a bit... deeper with things. Not only is there implied to be a past relationship between Millington and Judson as mentioned below, but it's pretty clear in the book that Jean and Phyllis were probably a couple as well, even before [[spoiler:their [[LesbianVampire transformation]]]].

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* Jean and Phyllis in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E2TheCurseOfFenric "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric The Curse of Fenric]]", who also seem rather determined to get Ace to join them early on, and after [[spoiler:they become [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Haemovores]]]] they tell her, "You should have come into the water with us. Then we'd have been together." This is another case where the novelisation goes a bit... deeper with things. Not only is there implied to be a past relationship between Millington and Judson as mentioned below, but it's pretty clear in the book that Jean and Phyllis were probably a couple as well, even before [[spoiler:their [[LesbianVampire transformation]]]].



* In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E5RiseOfTheCybermen Rise of the Cybermen]]" / "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E6TheAgeOfSteel The Age of Steel]]" there was [[spoiler:Rickey/Alternate Mickey]] and his boyfriend Jake. The [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MzNvT5q6E actual expository scene]] was cut for one reason or another, making their canon relationship into simply oodles of hoyay.

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* In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E5RiseOfTheCybermen "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E5RiseOfTheCybermen Rise of the Cybermen]]" / "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E6TheAgeOfSteel The Age of Steel]]" there was [[spoiler:Rickey/Alternate Mickey]] and his boyfriend Jake. The [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MzNvT5q6E actual expository scene]] was cut for one reason or another, making their canon relationship into simply oodles of hoyay.



* In "[[Recap/DoctorWho6E3TheInvasion The Invasion]]", Isobel is quite clear that she only wants to photograph Zoe, not Jamie. And then she gets Zoe to wear a miniskirt, and [[PantyShot photographs her from floor level]].

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* In "[[Recap/DoctorWho6E3TheInvasion "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E3TheInvasion The Invasion]]", Isobel is quite clear that she only wants to photograph Zoe, not Jamie. And then she gets Zoe to wear a miniskirt, and [[PantyShot photographs her from floor level]].



* Speaking of Ian Chesterton, "[[Recap/DoctorS1E8TheChase The Chase]]" gives us a classic moment:

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* Speaking of Ian Chesterton, "[[Recap/DoctorS1E8TheChase "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E8TheChase The Chase]]" gives us a classic moment:



* The BOSS and Stevens in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS10E6TheGreenDeath The Green Death]]" are very homoerotic. The BOSS calls Stevens things like 'my little Superman' and Stevens' subplot is played very much like him dumping an abusive husband. The novelisation ramps up the subtext by having The BOSS quote Oscar Wilde and sing the Wedding March before asking Stevens, "Do you, Stevens, take this computer..."

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* The BOSS and Stevens in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS10E6TheGreenDeath "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS10E5TheGreenDeath The Green Death]]" are very homoerotic. The BOSS calls Stevens things like 'my little Superman' and Stevens' subplot is played very much like him dumping an abusive husband. The novelisation ramps up the subtext by having The BOSS quote Oscar Wilde and sing the Wedding March before asking Stevens, "Do you, Stevens, take this computer..."
24th May '17 9:22:45 PM Stormchaser23
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** Then there's "Clara and the TARDIS," wherein Clara gives [[ScrewYourself herself]]... long story, and declares that they have to share a bed.

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** Then there's "Clara and the TARDIS," wherein Clara gives [[ScrewYourself herself]]... long story, a lascivious look, and declares that they have to share a bed.
24th May '17 9:19:59 PM Stormchaser23
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** Then there's "Clara and the TARDIS," wherein Clara gives [[ScrewYourself herself]]... long story, and declares that they have to share a bed.
7th Apr '17 10:03:45 PM Solle
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* One script draft of ''The End Of Time'' had the following scene which, tragically, didn't make it to the screen:

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* One script draft of ''The "The End Of Time'' Time" had the following scene which, tragically, didn't make it to the screen:
7th Apr '17 9:53:16 PM Solle
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* One script draft of ''The End Of Time'' had the following scene which, tragically, didn't make it to the screen:
-->'''The Master:''' Yeah, as much as I like looking at myself, I think you can get out of that dress.
-->'''The Master:''' Is that an invitation?
-->'''The Master:''' Now that would be different. And brilliant. But later!
-->'''The Master:''' [[ScrewYourself I'm a psychological minefield.]]
6th Apr '17 1:31:51 AM Solle
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* George Litefoot in Big Finish is AmbiguouslyGay. At one point he talks fondly of a lost love, without specifying the person's gender, in a way that rather strongly hints at his love having been male. In a later audio, in which everyone is talking about very personal and emotional moments, he recounts a story of trying in vain to impress a classmate named Ralph while at university. He's the first to recognise that one of the villains they encounter is gay, and explains to Jago that this is a case of the love that dare not speak its name -- as well as stating that he hopes the love may one day not be a taboo. He's quick to acknowledge when young men who cross their path are handsome, but doesn't seem to notice the women at all. He shelters Ellie in his house without even considering the social implications of an unmarried woman living with him. And his encounter with Music/MauriceRavel (as well as the... more complicated situation between Ravel and the villain of the week) is really, blatantly romantic.

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* George Litefoot in Big Finish is AmbiguouslyGay. At one point he talks fondly of a lost love, without specifying the person's gender, in a way that rather strongly hints at his love having been male. In a later audio, in which everyone is talking about very personal and emotional moments, he recounts a story of trying in vain to impress a classmate named Ralph while at university. He's the first to recognise that one of the villains they encounter is gay, and explains to Jago that this is a case of the love that dare not speak its name -- as well as stating that he hopes the love may one day not be a taboo. He's quick to acknowledge when young men who cross their path are handsome, but doesn't seem to notice the women at all. He shelters Ellie in his house without even considering the social implications of an unmarried woman living with him. And his encounter with [[spoiler:fake]] Music/MauriceRavel (as well as the... more complicated situation between Ravel and the villain of the week) is really, blatantly romantic. Additionally, his description of the Doctor in "The Jago & Litefoot Revival", complete with emotional music in the background, speaks volumes.
5th Apr '17 3:22:19 AM Solle
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Where to begin with Fitz Kreiner and the Eighth Doctor from the Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures... Over the course of their fifty-something books together, they become [[BiTheWay Not-So-]][[HeterosexualLifePartners Heterosexual Life Partners]]. [=EDAs=] can be divided up into "Fitz and the Doctor are rather gay for each other" books and "Fitz and the Doctor are ''really'' gay for each other" books. This is all massively confusing for Fitz, who sort of identifies as straight and has a ''number'' of issues with suddenly being in love with an alien bloke. A ''few'' examples:

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Where to begin with Fitz Kreiner and the Eighth Doctor from the Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures... Over the course of their fifty-something books together, they become [[BiTheWay Not-So-]][[HeterosexualLifePartners Heterosexual Life Partners]]. [=EDAs=] can be divided up into "Fitz and the Doctor are rather gay for each other" books and "Fitz and the Doctor are ''really'' gay for each other" books. This is all massively confusing for Fitz, who sort of identifies as straight and has a ''number'' of issues with suddenly being in love with an alien bloke. A ''few'' examples:
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