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*** Sometimes orcs will mount rescue missions of their own accord to save kidnapped followers. Saving they're own, even when not directly ordered is certainly nice for a race that is typically [[AlwaysChaoticEvil]]
*** Even better [[spoiler: It is now possible for Orcs under your control to [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated Return from being cut down]] as well.]]

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*** Sometimes orcs will mount rescue missions of their own accord to save kidnapped followers. Saving they're own, even when not directly ordered is certainly nice for a race that is typically [[AlwaysChaoticEvil]]
AlwaysChaoticEvil.
*** Even better better, [[spoiler: It it is now possible for Orcs under your control to [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated Return from being cut down]] as well.]]
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* A somewhat twisted example. Orcs who have the title of the Obsessed, their bit being MadLove towards Talion, will be very, very happy if you successfully brand them.

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* A somewhat twisted example. Orcs who have the title of the Obsessed, their bit being MadLove towards Talion, will be very, very happy if you successfully brand them. If they have the Humiliator trait, they'll tell Talion they simply can't kill their beloved before walking away. Awww.
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** If you shame enough orcs, you'll eventually be ambushed by one called "the Bitter", who angrily states he will not let you shame anymore of his brothers. This comes off equal parts heartwarming and awesome, especially if the orc speaking is one you've previously shamed or encountered.
** The Wraith-Touched/Specter is an orc you killed with your wraith fire or purification, who's skin has turned white,veins have turned blue and eyes now glow. He's trying to kill you to stop you from spreading the curse to other orcs and disfiguring them to.
** On occasion, you will get a follower who died to come back calling himself "The Nameless", "Forsaken",or "Abandoned", representing every follower who you let die. It isn't until you think about it. The orc is essentially becoming a masked vigilante taking out who he sees as a super-villain. In short, he's Bat-orc.
* Unlike in Shadow of Mordor, Friendly orcs, aren't a perverted weirdos but are legitimately nice orcs. They are typically commanders FatherToHisMen and are willing to talk things out with you as opposed to brawling. Even their greeting line isn't something like "Gravewalker" or "Pinkskin", but "Lend me your ear". After killing you they explicitly state they would have rather reconciled peacefully. It's implied that you are the aggressor in this situation, unwilling to have a dialogue and resolve things due to orcish prejudice.

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** If you shame enough orcs, you'll eventually be ambushed by one called "the Bitter", who angrily states he will not let you shame anymore any more of his brothers. This comes off equal parts heartwarming and awesome, especially if the orc speaking is one you've previously shamed or encountered.
** The Wraith-Touched/Specter is an orc you killed with your wraith fire or purification, who's skin has turned white,veins white, veins have turned blue and eyes now glow. He's trying to kill you to stop you from spreading the curse to other orcs and disfiguring them to.
** On occasion, you will get a follower who died to come back calling himself "The Nameless", "Forsaken",or "Forsaken", or "Abandoned", representing every follower who you let die. It isn't until you think about it. The orc is essentially becoming a masked vigilante taking out who he sees as a super-villain. In short, he's Bat-orc.
* Unlike in Shadow of Mordor, Friendly orcs, friendly orcs aren't a perverted weirdos but are legitimately nice orcs. They are typically commanders FatherToHisMen [[AFatherToHisMen who genuinely care about their troops]] and are willing to talk things out with you as opposed to brawling. Even their greeting line isn't something like "Gravewalker" or "Pinkskin", but "Lend me your ear". After killing you they explicitly state they would have rather reconciled peacefully. It's implied that you are the aggressor in this situation, unwilling to have a dialogue and resolve things due to orcish prejudice.



* Whilst a lot of orcs tend to talk down to or threaten there followers into submission others are less cruel. Some olog captains will admit to being impressed with the speed of their work. Some orc captains go as far as to express a good deal of emotion, saying that while he may not show it he truly treasures his crew.

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* Whilst a lot of orcs tend to talk down to or threaten there their followers into submission others are less cruel. Some olog captains will admit to being impressed with the speed of their work. Some orc captains go as far as to express a good deal of emotion, saying that while he may not show it he truly treasures his crew.crew.



* [[spoiler:None of the good guys die, with the possible exception of hired mercs. After some very dark stuff we've seen in this game, the DLC's outright good ending is a breath of fresh air.]]

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* [[spoiler:None [[spoiler:[[EverybodyLives None of the good guys die, die]], with the possible exception of hired mercs. After some very dark stuff we've seen in this game, the DLC's outright good ending is a breath of fresh air.]]
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* Unlike in Shadow of Mordor, The Friendly Orc, isn't a perverted weirdo but is legitimately a nice orc. They are typically commanders [[FatherToHisMen]] and is willing to talk things out with you as opposed to brawling. Even his greeting line isn't something like "Gravewalker" or "Pinkskin", but "Lend me your ear". Olog versions even talk about how they'll be making a new friend. After killing you they explicitly state they would have rather reconciled there differences. It's implied that you are the aggressor in this situation, unwilling to have a dialogue and resolve things peacefully.

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* Unlike in Shadow of Mordor, The Friendly Orc, isn't orcs, aren't a perverted weirdo weirdos but is are legitimately a nice orc. orcs. They are typically commanders [[FatherToHisMen]] FatherToHisMen and is are willing to talk things out with you as opposed to brawling. Even his their greeting line isn't something like "Gravewalker" or "Pinkskin", but "Lend me your ear". Olog versions even talk about how they'll be making a new friend. ear". After killing you they explicitly state they would have rather reconciled there differences. peacefully. It's implied that you are the aggressor in this situation, unwilling to have a dialogue and resolve things peacefully.due to orcish prejudice.
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** Under normal circumstances there is no way for an orc you have personally resurrected to turn against you. No matter how badly you beat them or even if you kill them before bringing them back they can't betray you. At first this would seem to imply that they no longer possess any free will, however there is one circumstance where they will break from your control; if you start hurting their blood brother in front of them. Undead orcs also possess the unbreakable trait, meaning that once this happens you can't rebrand them. Somehow an Orcish zombie can still has[[ThePowerOfFriendship enough of a soul]] to fight off the super powered necromancer animating him.

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** Under normal circumstances there is no way for an orc you have personally resurrected to turn against you. No matter how badly you beat them or even if you kill them before bringing them back they can't betray you. At first this would seem to imply that they no longer possess any free will, however there is one circumstance where they will break from your control; if you start hurting their blood brother in front of them. Undead orcs also possess the unbreakable trait, meaning that once this happens you can't rebrand them. Somehow an Orcish zombie can still has[[ThePowerOfFriendship has [[ThePowerOfFriendship enough of a soul]] to fight off the super powered necromancer animating him.
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** Under normal circumstances there is no way for an orc you have personally resurrected to turn against you. No matter how badly you beat them or even if you kill them before bringing them back they can't betray you. At first this would seem to imply that they no longer possess any free will, however there is one circumstance where they will break from your control; if you start hurting their blood brother in front of them. Undead orcs also possess the unbreakable trait, meaning that once this happens you can't rebrand them. Somehow an Orcish zombie can still has[[ThePowerOfFriendship enough of a soul]] to fight off the super powered necromancer animating him.

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* Unlike in Shadow of Mordor, The Friendly Orc, isn't a perverted weirdo but is legitimately a nice orc. They are typically commanders {{FatherToHisMen}} and is willing to talk things out with you as opposed to brawling. Even his greeting line isn't something like "Gravewalker" or "Pinkskin", but "Lend me your ear". Olog versions even talk about how they'll be making a new friend. After killing you they explicitly state they would have rather reconciled there differences. It's implied that you are the aggressor in this situation, unwilling to have a dialogue and resolve things peacefully.

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* Unlike in Shadow of Mordor, The Friendly Orc, isn't a perverted weirdo but is legitimately a nice orc. They are typically commanders {{FatherToHisMen}} [[FatherToHisMen]] and is willing to talk things out with you as opposed to brawling. Even his greeting line isn't something like "Gravewalker" or "Pinkskin", but "Lend me your ear". Olog versions even talk about how they'll be making a new friend. After killing you they explicitly state they would have rather reconciled there differences. It's implied that you are the aggressor in this situation, unwilling to have a dialogue and resolve things peacefully.
* If a bodyguard is summoned, but nothing happens for a while, they'll start talking to you about their pasts and secret opinions. Some of these are surprisingly sweet.
** The Bard, an already fun orc to have has an interesting backstory. He was an ordinary orc captain, who would slay his allies mercilessly, until eventually he had to kill his blood brother, the previous bard. He killed him, but felt so remorseful he took up his weapon and title, fighting in his name.
** While most orcs are xenophobic, looking down on other races, occasionally you get a follower who thinks that the orcs should learn what they can from them.
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*** Occasionally a captain will shout your name or a complimentary title such as 'Bright One' or 'Talion' and appear behind you with holding a mook at knifepoint. They actually are giving you a gift (either a jewel or intel) as a sign of loyalty.

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* Whilst a lot of orcs tend to talk down to or threaten there followers into submission others are less cruel. Some olog captains will admit to being impressed with the speed of their work. Some orc captains go as far as to express a good deal of emotion, saying that while he may not show it he truly treasures his crew.



* Whilst a lot of orcs tend to talk down to or threaten there followers into submission others are less cruel. Some olog captains will admit to being impressed with the speed of their work. Some orc captains go as far as to express a good deal of emotion, saying that while he may not show it he truly treasures his crew.

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* Unlike in Shadow of Mordor, The Friendly Orc, isn't a perverted weirdo but is legitimately a nice orc. They are typically commanders {{FatherToHisMen}} and is willing to talk things out with you as opposed to brawling. Even his greeting line isn't something like "Gravewalker" or "Pinkskin", but "I'll have words with ya". Even the olog version talks about how he'll be making a new friend. It's implied that you are the aggressor in this situation, unwilling to have a dialogue and resolve things peacefully.

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* Unlike in Shadow of Mordor, The Friendly Orc, isn't a perverted weirdo but is legitimately a nice orc. They are typically commanders {{FatherToHisMen}} and is willing to talk things out with you as opposed to brawling. Even his greeting line isn't something like "Gravewalker" or "Pinkskin", but "I'll have words with ya". Even the olog version talks "Lend me your ear". Olog versions even talk about how he'll they'll be making a new friend.friend. After killing you they explicitly state they would have rather reconciled there differences. It's implied that you are the aggressor in this situation, unwilling to have a dialogue and resolve things peacefully.


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* Whilst a lot of orcs tend to talk down to or threaten there followers into submission others are less cruel. Some olog captains will admit to being impressed with the speed of their work. Some orc captains go as far as to express a good deal of emotion, saying that while he may not show it he truly treasures his crew.
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* Unlike in Shadow of Mordor, The Friendly Orc, isn't a perverted weirdo but is legitimately a nice orc. They are typically commanders {{FatherToHisMen}} and is willing to talk things out with you as opposed to brawling. Even his greeting line isn't something like "Gravewalker" or "Pinkskin", but "I'll have words with ya". Even the olog version talks about how he'll be making a new friend. It's implied that you are the aggressor in this situation, unwilling to have a dialogue and resolve things peacefully.
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* On occasion, you will get a follower who died to come back calling himself "The Nameless", "Forsaken",or "Abandoned", representing every follower who you let die. It isn't until you think about it. The orc is essentially becoming a masked vigilante taking out who he sees as a super-villain. In short, he's Bat-orc.

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* ** On occasion, you will get a follower who died to come back calling himself "The Nameless", "Forsaken",or "Abandoned", representing every follower who you let die. It isn't until you think about it. The orc is essentially becoming a masked vigilante taking out who he sees as a super-villain. In short, he's Bat-orc.

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* If you shame enough orcs, you'll eventually be ambushed by one called "the Bitter", who angrily states he will not let you shame anymore of his brothers. This comes off equal parts heartwarming and awesome, especially if the orc speaking is one you've previously shamed or encountered.
** There's actually a good few orc fighting not out of blood lust but to save other orcs from your curses. The Wraith-Touched is trying to kill you so you can't use your magic to disfigure anyone else, since now his skin is pale and his veins have turned blue.
* On occasion, you will get a follower who died to come back calling himself "The Nameless", representing every follower who you let die. It isn't until you think about it. The orc is essentially becoming a masked vigilante taking out who he sees as a super-villain. In short, he's Bat-orc.

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* A lot of orcs aren't fighting for blood lust or thrills, but to stop you from hurting their fellow Orcs.
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If you shame enough orcs, you'll eventually be ambushed by one called "the Bitter", who angrily states he will not let you shame anymore of his brothers. This comes off equal parts heartwarming and awesome, especially if the orc speaking is one you've previously shamed or encountered.
** There's actually a good few The Wraith-Touched/Specter is an orc fighting not out of blood lust but to save other orcs from you killed with your curses. The Wraith-Touched is wraith fire or purification, who's skin has turned white,veins have turned blue and eyes now glow. He's trying to kill you so to stop you can't use your magic from spreading the curse to disfigure anyone else, since now his skin is pale other orcs and his veins have turned blue.
disfiguring them to.
* On occasion, you will get a follower who died to come back calling himself "The Nameless", "Forsaken",or "Abandoned", representing every follower who you let die. It isn't until you think about it. The orc is essentially becoming a masked vigilante taking out who he sees as a super-villain. In short, he's Bat-orc.
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** There's actually a good few orc fighting not out of blood lust but to save other orcs from your curses. The Wraith-Touched is trying to kill you so you can't use your magic to disfigure anyone else, since now his skin is pale and his veins have turned blue.
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* When [[spoiler:Ratbag]] runs off to rescue his friend, "Let's go find Ranger!", watch Talion. He actually smiles at his loyalty to his friend, showing he's beginning to sincerely like the little glob.
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* The Interactive Trailer allows viewers to choose whether to rescue one of Talion's Captains, or instead seek vengeance against their Nemesis. From the current statistics on the official website, an overwhelming majority of viewers have chosen to save their captain rather than seek vengeance. Bodes well for Talion's soul, does it not ?

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* The Interactive Trailer allows viewers to choose whether to rescue one of Talion's Captains, or instead seek vengeance against their Nemesis. From the current statistics on the official website, an overwhelming majority of viewers have chosen to save their captain rather than seek vengeance. Bodes well for Talion's soul, does it not ?not?



* After a fierce battle in defense of the oasis base of the Vanishing Sons, Serka lets out an enthusiastic cry of victory. Baranor , tired and concerned for their future with the oasis raided and many of their men dead questions Serka's enthusiasm. In response Serka gives this surprisingly sincere speech.
--> '''Serka''' You're right , there is no end to it.This isn't the first time I've lost everything. They don't call me the Unkillable because I don't lose. It's because I never stop fighting.If I did that would be the end of me.
** Following this the two bond over how utterly insane their lives have become , and walk off together to conquer Shindrum.

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* After a fierce battle in defense of the oasis base of the Vanishing Sons, Serka lets out an enthusiastic cry of victory. Baranor , Baranor, tired and concerned for their future with the oasis raided and many of their men dead questions Serka's enthusiasm. In response Serka gives this surprisingly sincere speech.
--> '''Serka''' You're right , right, there is no end to it.This isn't the first time I've lost everything. They don't call me the Unkillable because I don't lose. It's because I never stop fighting.If I did that would be the end of me.
** Following this the two bond over how utterly insane their lives have become , become, and walk off together to conquer Shindrum.
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** Later in the game during seiges, branded captains can fall in battle, bleeding out but not yet dead. Talion can [[VideogameCaringPotential heal them]]. The orcs have a variety of responses to this, usually thanking Talion or celebrating the fact hat they can fight more, but one line in particular is pretty heartwarming:

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** Later in the game during seiges, branded captains can fall in battle, bleeding out but not yet dead. Talion can [[VideogameCaringPotential heal them]]. The orcs have a variety of responses to this, usually thanking Talion or celebrating the fact hat that they can fight more, but one line in particular is pretty heartwarming:
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** Later in the game during seiges, branded captains can fall in battle, bleeding out but not yet dead. Talion can [[VideogameCaringPotential heal them]]. The orcs have a variety of responses to this, usually thanking Talion or celebrating the fact hat they can fight more, but one line in particular is pretty heartwarming:
--->'''Fallen Captain''': You saved me! You ''do'' care!

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* On occasion, you will get a follower who died to come back calling himself "The Nameless", representing every follower who you let die. It isn't until you think about it. The orc is essentially becoming a masked vigilante taking out who he sees as a super-villain. In short, he's Bat-orc.
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** The Enchanted, who adores anything related to elven culture [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOn1Y0NsJpU becomes infatuated with Eltariel the second he sees her]]. He gives up all previous allegiances to serve the elf assassin as her bodyguard. And he's not like other orcs. When around Eltariel, he's polite, civilized, and dedicated entirely to make her happy. Just being near his mistress is enough to make him happy.

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** The Enchanted, who adores anything related to elven culture [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOn1Y0NsJpU becomes infatuated with Eltariel the second he sees her]]. He gives up all previous allegiances to serve the elf assassin as her bodyguard. And he's not like other orcs. When around Eltariel, he's polite, civilized, and dedicated entirely to make her happy. Just being near his mistress is enough to make him happy.
happy. (Sharp eyes will notice he wears an iron tiara in the style of Galadriel.)
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** The Enchanted, who adores anything related to elven culture becomes infatuated with Eltariel the second he sees her. He gives up all previous allegiances to serve the elf assasin as her bodyguard. And he's not like other orcs. When around Eltariel, he's polite, civilized, and dedicated entirely to make her happy. Just being near his mistress is enough to make him happy.

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** The Enchanted, who adores anything related to elven culture [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOn1Y0NsJpU becomes infatuated with Eltariel the second he sees her. her]]. He gives up all previous allegiances to serve the elf assasin assassin as her bodyguard. And he's not like other orcs. When around Eltariel, he's polite, civilized, and dedicated entirely to make her happy. Just being near his mistress is enough to make him happy.
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** It does, however, lead to [[NoOneGetsLeftBehind rescue missions for captured orcs]]. The best part? They'll often brag to their captor that they'll fully confident Talion will save them and turn their captor into dog chow.

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** It does, however, lead to [[NoOneGetsLeftBehind rescue missions for captured orcs]]. The best part? They'll often brag to their captor that they'll they're fully confident Talion will save them and turn their captor into dog chow.
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** It does, however, lead to [[NoOneGetsLeftBehind rescue missions for captured orcs]].

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** It does, however, lead to [[NoOneGetsLeftBehind rescue missions for captured orcs]]. The best part? They'll often brag to their captor that they'll fully confident Talion will save them and turn their captor into dog chow.
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* In general, everything out of Forthog's mouth.
-->'''Forthog:''' I see you fall many times, Ranger. [[{{Determinator}} Keep getting up.]]

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-->'''Orc:''' That's my blood brother, he is off limits!

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-->'''Orc:''' --->'''Orc:''' That's my blood brother, he is off limits!limits!
** It drifts into Heartwarming if the Blood Brother is killed and he sighs that at least he'll be joining his Brother in death.
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* After a fierce battle in defense of the oasis base of the Vanishing Sons, Serka lets out an enthusiastic cry of victory. Baranor , tired and concerned for their future with the oasis raided and many of their men dead questions Serka's enthusiasm. In response Serka gives this surprisingly sincere speech.
--> '''Serka''' You're right , there is no end to it.This isn't the first time I've lost everything. They don't call me the Unkillable because I don't lose. It's because I never stop fighting.If I did that would be the end of me.
**Following this the two bond over how utterly insane their lives have become , and walk off together to conquer Shindrum.
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* Baranor meets up with the leader of a mercenary group in an attempt to get help for capturing Lithlad's fortress. Their leader turns out to be his brother, whom Baranor hasn't seen in years.

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* Baranor meets up with the leader of a mercenary group in an attempt to get help for capturing Lithlad's fortress. Their leader turns out to be his brother, whom Baranor hasn't seen in years.years.
* [[spoiler:None of the good guys die, with the possible exception of hired mercs. After some very dark stuff we've seen in this game, the DLC's outright good ending is a breath of fresh air.]]
* Idril's bio confirms that her relationship with Baranor is romantic in nature. She may have lost her dad, but she still has him.
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* Speaking of The Obsessed, Krimp the Enchanted is similar, except he's not perverse. He's not a StalkerWithACrush. He genuinely loves Eltariel, and treats her with respect and honor.

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