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** It's not that they're prepared to wipe out humanity. It goes like this: They're initially designed to wipe out mutants. Then, the detection is refined so that it includes wiping out humans who ''have'' the mutant gene and can pass it on, but don't necessarily express it, and those humans are added to the list. Some other humans object to this, so ''they're'' on the list, too. This leaves those humans who ''don't'' have and ''can't'' pass on the mutant gene as safe and in charge.

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** It's not that they're prepared to wipe out humanity. It goes like this: They're initially designed to wipe out mutants. Then, the detection is refined so that it includes wiping out humans who ''have'' the mutant gene and can pass it on, but don't necessarily express it, and those humans are added to the list. Some other humans object to this, so ''they're'' on the list, too. This leaves those humans who ''don't'' have and ''can't'' pass on the mutant gene gene, and who don't mind that all the ''other'' non-gene-bearing humans are being exterminated, as safe and in charge.
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** The reason why Quicksilver doesn't stay is because they asked him to help with breaking Erik out, which he does. Asking him to do more would be like MovingTheGoalposts. Besides, it's not like they could ''keep'' him if they wanted him to stay, anyways. He's so powerful that the only way you could keep him on the team is if he decides that's what he ''wants'' to do. He's a teenager with SuperSpeed, and until he sees the threat the Sentinels and Magneto pose with his own eyes, all he's really going to care about is screwing around and stealing things.

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** The reason why Quicksilver doesn't stay is because they asked him to help with breaking Erik out, which he does. Asking him to do more would be like MovingTheGoalposts. Besides, it's not like they could ''keep'' him if they wanted him to stay, anyways. He's so powerful that the only way you could keep him on the team is if he decides that's what he ''wants'' to do. He's a teenager with SuperSpeed, and until he sees the threat the Sentinels and Magneto pose with his own eyes, all he's really going to care about is screwing dicking around and stealing things.



** I suspect the whole rescuing Logan thing was done by Charles and Mystique together. Basically to save the man that saved them all, both from what happened to him in the fight and from what Stryker would have done to him. And, remember, Stryker was working with Trask, very knowingly, including being there to assist him in selling the tech to the Vietnamese. Real Stryker, in this timeline, is in deep kimchi.

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** I suspect the whole rescuing Logan thing was done by Charles and Mystique together. Basically to save the man that saved them all, both from what happened to him in the fight and from what Stryker would have done to him. And, remember, Stryker was working with Trask, very knowingly, including being there to assist him in selling the tech to the Vietnamese. Real Stryker, in this timeline, is in deep kimchi.shit.
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** The reason why Quicksilver doesn't stay is because they asked him to help with breaking Erik out, which he does. Asking him to do more would be like MovingTheGoalposts. Besides, it's not like they could ''keep'' him if they wanted him to stay, anyways. He's so powerful that the only way you could keep him on the team is if he decides that's what he ''wants'' to do. He's a teenager with SuperSpeed, and until he sees the threat the Sentinels and Magneto pose with his own eyes, all he's really going to care about is dicking around and stealing things.

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** The reason why Quicksilver doesn't stay is because they asked him to help with breaking Erik out, which he does. Asking him to do more would be like MovingTheGoalposts. Besides, it's not like they could ''keep'' him if they wanted him to stay, anyways. He's so powerful that the only way you could keep him on the team is if he decides that's what he ''wants'' to do. He's a teenager with SuperSpeed, and until he sees the threat the Sentinels and Magneto pose with his own eyes, all he's really going to care about is dicking screwing around and stealing things.



** I suspect the whole rescuing Logan thing was done by Charles and Mystique together. Basically to save the man that saved them all, both from what happened to him in the fight and from what Stryker would have done to him. And, remember, Stryker was working with Trask, very knowingly, including being there to assist him in selling the tech to the Vietnamese. Real Stryker, in this timeline, is in deep shit.

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** I suspect the whole rescuing Logan thing was done by Charles and Mystique together. Basically to save the man that saved them all, both from what happened to him in the fight and from what Stryker would have done to him. And, remember, Stryker was working with Trask, very knowingly, including being there to assist him in selling the tech to the Vietnamese. Real Stryker, in this timeline, is in deep shit.kimchi.
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*** You're kidding, right? Ever heard of ''non''-cell phones? Or radios, for that matter?
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** The Goverment does have a Task Force Designed to handle any Major Mutant Problems by the Time of "Dark Phoenix"

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** The Goverment does have a Task Force Designed to handle any Major Mutant Problems by the Time of "Dark Phoenix"''Film/DarkPhoenix''.
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** The Goverment does have a Task Force Designed to handle any Major Mutant Problems by the Time of "Dark Phoenix"
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** The Sentinels are not seen as going beyond their programming anywhere in the film. But that's only part of their danger; their main trouble is being a tool for genocide and oppression, something that dooms all of mankind and not just mutantkind. As a fleet of killer robots they were so terrible a creation that time travel needed to be done to neutralize them. It looks like their creators - the described "worst of humanity" - just let them run amok rather than try to shut them down, contributing to the dystopian future seen.
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** He really hasn't. And this takes place after, presumably, a lot of character growth has happened. Remember that in the original story, Magneto was an ally to the future surviving mutants, and that was written ''before'' he had been given sympathetic motives like being a Holocaust survivor.
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** He may not have had any kind of plan or specific agenda to pursue for after escaping, or at least one that was really all time sensitive. That, and/or he was really repentant, or at least regretful for his actions (or the consequences of them), as he failed to prevent (or maybe even ''caused'') the death of the mutant president. At any rate, Erik really didn't come off as all that eager to escape; he was been held against his will, yes, but unlike his older counterpart in ''FilmX2XMenUnited'', he seemed to have been treated well, as opposed to the frequent brutality he suffered at the hands of William Stryker and his goons.

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** He may not have had any kind of plan or specific agenda to pursue for after escaping, or at least one that was really all time sensitive. That, and/or he was really repentant, or at least regretful for his actions (or the consequences of them), as he failed to prevent (or maybe even ''caused'') the death of the mutant president. At any rate, Erik really didn't come off as all that eager to escape; he was been held against his will, yes, but unlike his older counterpart in ''FilmX2XMenUnited'', ''Film/X2XMenUnited'', he seemed to have been treated well, as opposed to the frequent brutality he suffered at the hands of William Stryker and his goons.
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** He may not have had any kind of plan or specific agenda to pursue for after escaping, or at least one that was really all time sensitive. That, and/or he was really repentant, or at least regretful for his actions (or the consequences of them), as he failed to prevent (or maybe even ''caused'') the death of the mutant president. At any rate, Erik really didn't come off as all that eager to escape; he was been held against his will, yes, but unlike his older counterpart in FilmX2XMenUnited, he seemed to have been treated well, as opposed to the frequent brutality he suffered at the hands of William Stryker and his goons.

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** He may not have had any kind of plan or specific agenda to pursue for after escaping, or at least one that was really all time sensitive. That, and/or he was really repentant, or at least regretful for his actions (or the consequences of them), as he failed to prevent (or maybe even ''caused'') the death of the mutant president. At any rate, Erik really didn't come off as all that eager to escape; he was been held against his will, yes, but unlike his older counterpart in FilmX2XMenUnited, ''FilmX2XMenUnited'', he seemed to have been treated well, as opposed to the frequent brutality he suffered at the hands of William Stryker and his goons.

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** I don't buy it. Magneto has always had a NeverMyFault attitude towards human-mutant relations, so it'd be far more in character to blame the X-men for not allowing him to win the war before the Sentinels were ever invented. Plus, his philosophy was never "no human will ever care for their mutant child or friend" but rather "humans are able and, under the right circumstances, willing to exterminate or subjugate us, so we should exterminate or subjugate them first," and from that perspective, he was right. That said, he didn't have much of a choice but to team up with the X-men once the sentinels were deployed, and he could have been only faking agreeing with Charles and hoping he wouldn't read his mind, or perhaps being around the X-men, and presumably their brief human allies, changed him eventually.

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** I don't buy it. Magneto has always had a NeverMyFault attitude towards human-mutant relations, so it'd be far more in character to blame the X-men X-Men for not allowing him to win the war before the Sentinels were ever invented. Plus, his philosophy was never "no human will ever care for their mutant child or friend" but rather "humans are able and, under the right circumstances, willing to exterminate or subjugate us, so we should exterminate or subjugate them first," and from that perspective, he was right. That said, he didn't have much of a choice but to team up with the X-men X-Men once the sentinels were deployed, and he could have been only faking agreeing with Charles and hoping he wouldn't read his mind, or perhaps being around the X-men, X-Men, and presumably their brief human allies, changed him eventually.



** Who says they didn't and Eric didn't particularly care? A hardened revolutionary like him is not going to anti-climactically lay down all grievances because of sappy story from the future that he has not experienced first hand. What Wolverine saw was humans laying down there lives to defend helpless mutants. What Eric imagines is a butch of arrogant humans getting what was coming to them for inventing a weapon to literally wipe out his race, and then only intervening in the genocide when their death machines turned on them or the people THEY cared about. Wow I'm sure Eric is just going to cry me a river.

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** Who says they didn't and Eric didn't particularly care? A hardened revolutionary like him is not going to anti-climactically lay down all grievances because of sappy story from the future that he has not experienced first hand. What Wolverine saw was humans laying down there lives to defend helpless mutants. What Eric imagines is a butch bunch of arrogant humans getting what was coming to them for inventing a weapon to literally wipe out his race, and then only intervening in the genocide when their death machines turned on them or the people THEY cared about. Wow I'm sure Eric is just going to cry me a river.



* If Erik was already in control of the 70s Sentinel prototypes (by putting metal in them), why didn't he just stop his demonstration of power after making the sentinels shoot into the crowd, causing mass hysteria? Why bother bringing a stadium to the White House and making a speech when, had he just shot someone using a Sentinel, people would have deemed them unsafe and discredited Trask. Even if Mystique had saved Nixon and his cabinet, that could in no way guarantee mutant acceptance in the same way an anonymous strike using mutant-targeted weapons could.

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* If Erik was already in control of the 70s Sentinel prototypes (by putting metal in them), why didn't he just stop his demonstration of power after making the sentinels Sentinels shoot into the crowd, causing mass hysteria? Why bother bringing a stadium to the White House and making a speech when, had he just shot someone using a Sentinel, people would have deemed them unsafe and discredited Trask. Even if Mystique had saved Nixon and his cabinet, that could in no way guarantee mutant acceptance in the same way an anonymous strike using mutant-targeted weapons could.


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** He may not have had any kind of plan or specific agenda to pursue for after escaping, or at least one that was really all time sensitive. That, and/or he was really repentant, or at least regretful for his actions (or the consequences of them), as he failed to prevent (or maybe even ''caused'') the death of the mutant president. At any rate, Erik really didn't come off as all that eager to escape; he was been held against his will, yes, but unlike his older counterpart in FilmX2XMenUnited, he seemed to have been treated well, as opposed to the frequent brutality he suffered at the hands of William Stryker and his goons.
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** Added to that, he has direct knowledge that the reason the sentinels came about is directly and explicitly because of his attitude and the actions that result from it. Humanity wants the sentinels because of things like trying to start a nuclear war, or hurling hundreds of missiles at American soldiers, or shapeshifting assassins killing political and economic figures. Erik realizes Charles' path was the right one because he's now seen the direct result of his own.
** I don't buy it. Magneto has always had a NeverMyFault attitude towards human-mutant relations, so it'd be far more in character to blame the X-men for not allowing him to win the war before the sentinels were ever invented. Plus, his philosophy was never "no human will ever care for their mutant child or friend" but rather "humans are able and, under the right circumstances, willing to exterminate or subjugate us, so we should exterminate or subjugate them first," and from that perspective, he was right. That said, he didn't have much of a choice but to team up with the X-men once the sentinels were deployed, and he could have been only faking agreeing with Charles and hoping he wouldn't read his mind, or perhaps being around the X-men, and presumably their brief human allies, changed him eventually.

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** Added to that, he has direct knowledge that the reason the sentinels Sentinels came about is directly and explicitly because of his attitude and the actions that result from it. Humanity wants the sentinels Sentinels because of things like trying to start a nuclear war, or hurling hundreds of missiles at American soldiers, or shapeshifting assassins killing political and economic figures. Erik realizes Charles' path was the right one because he's now seen the direct result of his own.
** I don't buy it. Magneto has always had a NeverMyFault attitude towards human-mutant relations, so it'd be far more in character to blame the X-men for not allowing him to win the war before the sentinels Sentinels were ever invented. Plus, his philosophy was never "no human will ever care for their mutant child or friend" but rather "humans are able and, under the right circumstances, willing to exterminate or subjugate us, so we should exterminate or subjugate them first," and from that perspective, he was right. That said, he didn't have much of a choice but to team up with the X-men once the sentinels were deployed, and he could have been only faking agreeing with Charles and hoping he wouldn't read his mind, or perhaps being around the X-men, and presumably their brief human allies, changed him eventually.
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** He doesn't have to re-coat his entire skeleton. In ''The Wolverine'', he '''only''' loses the claws.


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** It's not that they're prepared to wipe out humanity. It goes like this: They're initially designed to wipe out mutants. Then, the detection is refined so that it includes wiping out humans who ''have'' the mutant gene and can pass it on, but don't necessarily express it, and those humans are added to the list. Some other humans object to this, so ''they're'' on the list, too. This leaves those humans who ''don't'' have and ''can't'' pass on the mutant gene as safe and in charge.

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* If you going to have sentinels in this movie, why not include the big guy himself? Would the idea of a self aware robot going rogue be cartoonish for the movie? Ultron is appearing in Avengers 2, so Master Mold could be possible in the future. It makes me wonder who is controlling the sentinels in 2023 if the humans are slaves.

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* If you going to have sentinels Sentinels in this movie, why not include the big guy himself? Would the idea of a self aware robot going rogue be cartoonish for the movie? Ultron is appearing in Avengers 2, so Master Mold could be possible in the future. It makes me wonder who is controlling the sentinels in 2023 if the humans are slaves.


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** But the above explanation just beggars another question: if Magneto re-coated Wolverine's claws with the adamantium, did he stop there, or re-coat the rest of his skeletal structure as well? Because the original process of injecting the liquid metal into Logan's system was an unbelievably painful procedure, and even with Magneto's skill (and presumed, if sketchy concern for Wolverine's discomfort), would Wolverine willingly go through that ordeal again, even for the obvious benefits?

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* How on earth did Trask manage to CAPTURE Azazel, let alone kill the man? This is the same guy who took down a CIA base, basically by himself, so I have no doubt he couldn't have handled some of Trask's thugs. Even if they tricked him or drugged him, when Mystique goes through his file, his eyes are shown as being open and he looks to be in pain so it stands to reason that, at one point, when Trask was experimenting on him, he was conscious so it stands to reason that he could have teleported himself out of there.

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* How on earth Earth did Trask manage to CAPTURE Azazel, let alone kill the man? This is the same guy who took down a CIA base, basically by himself, so I have no doubt he couldn't have handled some of Trask's thugs. Even if they tricked him or drugged him, when Mystique goes through his file, his eyes are shown as being open and he looks to be in pain so it stands to reason that, at one point, when Trask was experimenting on him, he was conscious so it stands to reason that he could have teleported himself out of there.


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** They could have drugged him, gassed him, encased him in an area from which he could not safely teleport out without seeing where he'd end up, or simply captured his comrades and forced him to surrender. Azazel's capture would be problematic, but by no means impossible to accomplish.
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** Yeah, the guys who barge into the room are pretty clearly intending to at the very least beat up, if not just kill, Logan from the second they see him, so the original confrontation probably ended much the same way.
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** If he had just had the Sentinels shoot into the crowd and not revealed himself, Trask could have easily spun it as, "Well, the people they shot must have really been mutants! See, my tech works!" which doesn't solve the problem.
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** If all else failed, she could simply change back -- even if Magneto is willing to kill her earlier, the surprise of realizing it's her and not the president will give her a couple seconds to act before he can react.

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** I doubt even Tricky Dicky would have someone publicaly executed iln front of the White House as part of a product demonstration.

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** Music/JamesBrown was a '''mutant'''. Duh!
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** But it should have, that's the point. Wolverine nearly sleep-stabbed Kayla so many times that she knew to get the hell out the bed if he started getting ansy. He sleep stabbed Rogue, which would have been fatal if she didn't absorb his healing. He nearly sleep-stabbed Mariko in the face and he did unkowningly sleep-stab Dream Jean, who was a figment of his own imagination. Kitty clearly knows that it will be intensely painful for him because she tells him so; presumably, this is also the reason why she previously used Bishop, who had his high resilience and energy absorbing powers. Wolverine has indestructible adamantium claws that come out reflexively when he is in pain and turned what may have otherwise been a minor cut into a fatal injury for Kitty, which jeopardized the mission even if the Sentinels didn't find them. Then, you have Magneto, who didn't immobilize him straight away but let him flail about for a few seconds and stab Kitty before acting. They were all holding the Idiot Ball on this one.
** If anyone can be overconfident around Wolverine, it's Kitty.

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** But it should have, that's the point. Wolverine nearly sleep-stabbed Kayla so many times that she knew to get the hell out the bed if he started getting ansy. He sleep stabbed Rogue, which would have been fatal if she didn't absorb his healing. He nearly sleep-stabbed Mariko in the face and he did unkowningly sleep-stab Dream Jean, who was a figment of his own imagination. Kitty clearly knows that it will be intensely painful for him because she tells him so; presumably, this is also the reason why she previously used Bishop, who had his high resilience and energy absorbing powers. Wolverine has indestructible adamantium claws that come out reflexively when he is in pain and turned what may have otherwise been a minor cut into a fatal injury for Kitty, which jeopardized the mission even if the Sentinels didn't find them. Then, you have Magneto, who didn't immobilize him straight away but let him flail about for a few seconds and stab Kitty before acting. They were all holding the Idiot Ball IdiotBall on this one.
** If anyone can be overconfident around Wolverine, it's Kitty.[[{{Intangibility}} Kitty]].

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** I doubt even Tricky Dicky would have someone publically executed in front of the White House as part of a product demonstration.

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** ''Film/RoboCop1987'' hadn't been released yet, so Trask and co. wouldn't have been able to learn from the [[DisastrousDemonstration first 10 minutes of that film]].
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** Mutant powers aren't necessarily passed on by blood. It all depends on what the X-gene grants in terms of powers. Why is Pietro a super-fast mutant and his twin a RealityWarper when their father simply has control over magnetism? Sure, in some cases you get similar powers from father to son(like Wolverine and Daken), but you can also get instances of mutants fathering or mothering children with ''wildly'' different powers(my earlier example of Magneto's children, for example.).

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** Mutant powers aren't necessarily passed on by blood. It all depends on what the X-gene grants in terms of powers. Why is Pietro a super-fast mutant and his twin a RealityWarper when their father simply has control over magnetism? Sure, in some cases you get similar powers from father to son(like son (like Wolverine and Daken), but you can also get instances of mutants fathering or mothering children with ''wildly'' different powers(my earlier example of Magneto's children, for example.).
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** Mutant powers aren't necessarily passed on by blood. It all depends on what the X-gene grants in terms of powers. Why is Pietro a super-fast mutant and his twin a RealityWarper when their father simply has control over magnetism? Sure, in some cases you get similar powers from father to son(like Havok and Cyclops or Wolverine and Daken), but you can also get instances of mutants fathering or mothering children with ''wildly'' different powers(my earlier example of Magneto's children, for example.).
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** Mutant powers aren't necessarily passed on by blood. It all depends on what the X-gene grants in terms of powers. Why is Pietro a super-fast mutant and his twin a RealityWarper when their father simply has control over magnetism? Sure, in some cases you get similar powers from father to son(like Havok and Cyclops or Wolverine and Daken), but you can also get instances of mutants fathering or mothering children with ''wildly'' different powers(my earlier example of Magneto's children, for example.).
* As for the original point, ''Apocalypse'' confirms that Magnetos is Magneto ''is'' Quicksilver's father.
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** JFK faced an extremely uphill road to the presidency, due to his relative inexperience, youth and Catholic background. His considerable charisma is often cited as the main reason he got elected. So it definitely works InUniverse, as to helping affirm Erik's claim that Kennedy had mutant powers of some type. And he ''did'' nail Creator/MarilynMonroe at the ''height'' of her 200 watt sexiness...
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** "Apocalypse" clearly states that Alex and Scott are ''brothers'', so that settles that.
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* If you shoot Trask, then the sentinel program is dead. Also, Mystique isn't persecuted and her DNA isn't stolen.

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** [[DisastrousDemonstration There's a trope for this.]]


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* Simplest explanation? Hank eventually realizes that the serum has some ugly long-term side effects, like plenty of real-life drugs do.
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*** Girls inherit their father's X-chromosome, so if that's where the X-gene resides, ''every'' daughter of a mutant daddy should be a mutant.

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*** Girls Not plausible, if Quicksilver got his powers from Magneto. It's girls who inherit their father's X-chromosome, so if X-chromosome - that's what makes them biologically female - so if that was where the X-gene resides, ''every'' daughter of a mutant daddy should be a mutant.mutant, and ''none'' of their sons would. Conversely, half the children of a mutant mother, sons or daughters, would be mutants. Unless Peter's genetics don't match his apparent gender, his mom ''must'' have passed on the trait to him if that's where the X-gene lies.
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*** Girls inherit their father's X-chromosome, so if that's where the X-gene resides, ''every'' daughter of a mutant daddy should be a mutant.
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** Or it could be an obscure historical in-joke. JFK ''really did'' have a medical secret he scrupulously concealed from the public, but it was Addison's Disease, not some secret mutant power. Possibly Magneto and/or Raven uncovered that Kennedy was hiding ''something'' related to his health and jumped to the wrong conclusion.

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