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21st Jun '16 10:02:13 PM CharlesPhipps
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*** Lupus are wolfweres. They have as much in common with regular wolves as Harkon Lukas.
21st Jun '16 10:01:31 PM CharlesPhipps
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** They are and it's why the Silver Fangs are failing. The only reason they've lasted as long as they have is Kinfolk marry regular humans all the time.

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** They are and it's why the Silver Fangs are failing. Indeed, all of the tribes are failing but the Black Spiral Dancers due to the excessive amount of in-breeding, stupid practices, and constant violence. The only reason they've lasted as long as they have is Kinfolk marry regular humans all the time.
21st Jun '16 10:00:12 PM CharlesPhipps
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** They are and it's why the Silver Fangs are failing. The only reason they've lasted as long as they have is Kinfolk marry regular humans all the time.
30th May '16 9:08:35 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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** The whole mess of Lupus Garou not to mention tons of psychological knowledge in the real world about how children raised as feral or by animals fit into human society (spoilers:not very damn well) is probably why this aspect was rightfully excised in the New World of Darkness. They could have side-stepped this issue, I think, by simply stating that wolves in the TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness were actually sentient and linguistic creatures who had been hiding their nature from humans (think WolfsRain) but they didn't.

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** The whole mess of Lupus Garou not to mention tons of psychological knowledge in the real world about how children raised as feral or by animals fit into human society (spoilers:not very damn well) is probably why this aspect was rightfully excised in the New World of Darkness. They could have side-stepped this issue, I think, by simply stating that wolves in the TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness were actually sentient and linguistic creatures who had been hiding their nature from humans (think WolfsRain) Anime/WolfsRain) but they didn't.
23rd Feb '16 3:28:06 PM Nopperabo
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Some tribes have extremely small gene pools of Garou. The Stargazers only have a few hundred Garou members worldwide. The Red Talons are a small tribe due to habitat and kinfolk loss. Other tribes have small gene pools because they are very selective about which Garou stay in the tribe. For example, the Get of Fenris exclude members who aren't strong enough to meet their standards (and, they send cubs through brutal Rites of Passage that result in high numbers of cub deaths). The Black Furies send their Garou sons to other tribes.

How on earth do these tribes remain genetically viable? The lack of genetic diversity in these tribes should create biological bottlenecks and concentrate genetic defects in their offspring. Shouldn't the aforementioned tribes be ''massively'' inbred by now?

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Some tribes have extremely small gene pools of Garou.Garou and kinfolk. The Stargazers only have a few hundred Garou members worldwide. The Red Talons are a small tribe due to habitat loss and kinfolk loss.an ever-shrinking pool of wolves with whom they can breed. Other tribes have small gene pools because they are very selective about which Garou stay in the tribe. For example, the Get of Fenris exclude members who aren't strong enough to meet their standards (and, they send cubs through brutal Rites of Passage that result in high numbers of cub deaths). The Black Furies send their Garou sons to other tribes.

How on earth do these tribes remain genetically viable? The lack of genetic diversity in these tribes should create biological bottlenecks [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founder_effect founder effects]] and concentrate genetic defects in their offspring. Shouldn't the aforementioned tribes be ''massively'' inbred by now?
18th Feb '16 7:53:20 AM Nopperabo
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* Several Garou tribes are picky about their breeding partners, choosing mates from very small pools of humans. For example, the Silver Fangs only breed with humans of royal blood. The Get of Fenris, Uktena, and Wendigo only breed with people from certain racial and ethnic groups.

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* Several Garou tribes are picky about their breeding partners, choosing mates from very small pools of humans. For example, the Silver Fangs only breed with humans of royal blood. The Get of Fenris, Uktena, and Wendigo only breed with people from certain racial and ethnic groups.
18th Feb '16 7:52:56 AM Nopperabo
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* Several Garou tribes are picky about their breeding partners, choosing mates from very small pools of humans. For example, the Silver Fangs only breed with humans of royal blood. The Get of Fenris, Uktena, and Wendigo only breed with people from certain racial and ethnic groups.

Some tribes have extremely small gene pools of Garou. The Stargazers only have a few hundred Garou members worldwide. The Red Talons are a small tribe due to habitat and kinfolk loss. Other tribes have small gene pools because they are very selective about which Garou stay in the tribe. For example, the Get of Fenris exclude members who aren't strong enough to meet their standards (and, they send cubs through brutal Rites of Passage that result in high numbers of cub deaths). The Black Furies send their Garou sons to other tribes.

How on earth do these tribes remain genetically viable? The lack of genetic diversity in these tribes should create biological bottlenecks and concentrate genetic defects in their offspring. Shouldn't the aforementioned tribes be ''massively'' inbred by now?
31st Jan '16 12:26:02 PM StanLemon
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***The thing about The Red Talons is that they are basically the KKK of the werewolves. Just substitute non-whites with non-wolves so yeah they would be like that.
7th Jul '15 5:38:35 PM DesertDragon
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** I dare say they are. Humans are the only creatures that destroy by choice. Animals simply act based on their nature.
12th May '15 2:28:57 PM Nopperabo
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[[folder:Why does the Wyrm prefer human lieutenants?]]

* The upper echelon of Malfeas is dominated by former humans. With the exception of Number Two (a former Black Spiral Dancer) and the Elemental Maeljin (evil spirits), nearly all of the Maeljin Incarna are former humans. In the physical realm, most fomori are bane-possessed humans. Black Spirals notwithstanding, why does the Wyrm recruit so many human servants? Is it because humans are the most plentiful sentient beings? Are humans uniquely vulnerable to Wyrm corruption?
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