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31st Jan '16 5:31:21 PM tropower
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* Falken claims that, in all the years Joshua had been operational, it had never learned futility. Later, when Lightman asks Falken how to get the computer to play against itself in tic-tac-toe, Falken answers, "Type number of players: zero." If Falken knows how to make the computer play tic-tac-toe against itself, that implies he'd actually ''made'' Joshua play tic-tac-toe against itself in the past. So why didn't Joshua learn futility ''back then?''

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* Falken claims that, in all the years Joshua had been operational, it had never learned futility. Later, when Lightman asks Falken how if there is any way to get the computer to play against itself in tic-tac-toe, Falken answers, "Type number "Yes. Number of players: zero." If Falken knows how to make the computer play tic-tac-toe against itself, that implies he'd actually ''made'' Joshua play tic-tac-toe against itself in the past. So why didn't Joshua learn futility ''back then?''
31st Jan '16 5:21:00 PM tropower
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** Falken believed that an all-out nuclear war between the United States and the Soviet Union was inevitable in the long run, and that while he might delay that war by calling NORAD as per David's request, this would not really change anything. Hence the line that "that a phone call won't fix."

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** Falken believed that an all-out nuclear war between the United States and the Soviet Union was inevitable in the long run, and that while he might delay that war by calling NORAD as per David's request, this would not really change anything. Hence the line that "that "Humanity planning its own destruction; that a phone call won't fix.stop."
1st Nov '15 2:28:06 PM Sharlee
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*** Also, it's explicitly stated in the film that tensions between the US and USSR are ''not'' especially high at the moment, which is why the commanders at NORAD are persuaded to accept that it's [=WOPR=] that's to blame for the apparent "threat". So there's no reason to assume they'd kick off WWIII ''just'' because the US was temporarily caught with its guard down.

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*** Also, it's explicitly stated in the film that tensions between the US and USSR are ''not'' especially high at the moment, which is why the commanders at NORAD are persuaded to accept that it's [=WOPR=] that's to blame for the apparent "threat". So there's no reason to assume they'd kick off WWIII ''just'' because the US was temporarily caught with its guard down.down ... and that's assuming ''they'' believed [=WOPR=]'d gone rogue any more easily than the NORAD brass did.
1st Nov '15 2:26:32 PM Sharlee
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*** Also, it's explicitly stated in the film that tensions between the US and USSR are ''not'' especially high at the moment, which is why the commanders at NORAD are persuaded to accept that it's [=WOPR=] that's to blame for the apparent "threat". So there's no reason to assume they'd kick off WWIII ''just'' because the US was temporarily caught with its guard down.
17th Aug '15 6:49:04 PM Phrederic
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*** Because of the lack of the Gulf Stream, the water off of most of California is far colder than the water on the same latitude on the East Coast. Those in Southern (or Northern) California do tend to have access to swimming pools however (due to the extremely temperate climate allowing you to be in swimwear comfortably for over half the year). Especially upper middle-class suburban white kids. Proximity to a large body of water has nothing to do with it, because of the heavy tides, nobody sane would teach anybody how to swim in the Pacific Ocean.
8th Jan '15 5:24:49 PM maxwellsilver
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* Something that bugged me while watching WarGames 2: Dead Code. Why is the protagonist thought to be a terrorist just for knowing about Sarin? Hell, even I could get some infos on Sarin anytime on The Other Wiki.

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* Something that bugged me while watching WarGames [=WarGames=] 2: Dead Code. Why is the protagonist thought to be a terrorist just for knowing about Sarin? Hell, even I could get some infos on Sarin anytime on The Other Wiki.
8th Jan '15 5:12:48 PM maxwellsilver
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*** Except for the fact that there are over a dozen American SSBNs patrolling the seas, silently, waiting for the order to glass Russia. Taking out the land-based forces is easy; it's the submarines you really have to worry about, because a single one has as many nukes as China, and they can hide deep and quiet.

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*** Except for the fact that there are over a dozen American SSBNs [=SSBNs=] patrolling the seas, silently, waiting for the order to glass Russia. Taking out the land-based forces is easy; it's the submarines you really have to worry about, because a single one has as many nukes as China, and they can hide deep and quiet.
12th Mar '14 9:35:57 AM ElMickerino
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** At the end, Joshua doesn't learn futility from playing tic-tac-toe; tic-tac-toe is a game that's winnable thanks to a person making a dumb mistake. Global Thermonuclear War, on the other hand, ends with the world in ruins, with no side having any kind of strategic edge over the other. Aside from that, Joshua learns from playing out all the attack simulations, eventually having to draw more and more power just to run through them to find some kind of acceptable outcome, of which there's none. That's how it learns futility. Though, Falken really wasn't thinking outside the box; he probably could have gotten Joshua to learn it by running a program to "Add 2+2 in base 10 until it equals 5, quit when you want".
16th Dec '13 3:37:03 AM Souhiro
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*** Because before David, they didn't even knew about hackers. Remember that this movie didn't just popularice, but kickstarted the hacker's figure in hollywood! Would a roman centurion have any plan against aerial attack?
6th Dec '13 9:53:07 PM mythbuster
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*** Except for the fact that there are over a dozen American SSBNs patrolling the seas, silently, waiting for the order to glass Russia. Taking out the land-based forces is easy; it's the submarines you really have to worry about, because a single one has as many nukes as China, and they can hide deep and quiet.
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