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** It's not unusual for a real-world symbiont to be able to survive for a while between hosts, in some cases for days or longer, even if they need a host for long term survival. If breathing is the only issue for these symbiotes, it's worth noting that many creatures, including humans and fish, can go at least a few minutes without breathing if they need to. We don't see a symbiote survive outside of a host (or a container designed to keep them alive) for longer than that.
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** Riot may also have been waiting for one or more of the other symbiotes to contact ''him'' for orders. He's their commander, after all: it's probably beneath his dignity to immediately set about the donkey-work of chasing after his underlings.


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** The last thing Carlton Drake wants, at that point, is for Eddie to wind up in the hands of the police. Any proof that Eddie was there would've been wiped on Drake's orders, the better to ensure only ''his'' men will be hauling Brock back for interrogation and study.
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** They're symbiotes, the word "symbiosis" itself means they need to bind themselves with another lifeform.
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* Mass shifting is one of those abilities that comes with shape-shifting. Mystique changed into a dwarf in the Days of Future Past film.
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** Brock had a Deep-Throat-like reputation of being an idealist on a grass-root level, which brings all the dirty stuff to light. Presumably it was arranged by Carlton so it would de-fang the rumors about his abuses by association with Brock just giving him an interview.

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** Brock had a Deep-Throat-like reputation of being an idealist on a grass-root level, which brings all the dirty stuff to light. Presumably it was arranged by Carlton so it would de-fang the rumors about his abuses by association with Brock just giving him an interview.interview.
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** Nothing ever says it's FTL. The comet the symbiotes were found on could be passing through the solar system on its way elsewhere, or the symbiotes live on it specifically because it allows them to migrate to new worlds and consume the populations. The original intent of the flight (before the comet with lifeforms was found on it) could have just been either testing the feasibility of a new, super-efficient long-range spaceship engine, or using that new engine to survey worlds within the solar system. Colonizing beyond the solar system may have been Drake's ultimate goal, but even being able to make sustainable colonies on Mars would be a HUGE step forward. (And the main thing preventing manned space travel now is that our current engines are far to inefficient to make such trips feasible.)

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** Nothing ever says it's FTL. The comet the symbiotes were found on could be passing through the solar system on its way elsewhere, or the symbiotes live on it specifically because it allows them to migrate to new worlds and consume the populations. The original intent of the flight (before the comet with lifeforms was found on it) could have just been either testing the feasibility of a new, super-efficient long-range spaceship engine, or using that new engine to survey worlds within the solar system. Colonizing beyond the solar system may have been Drake's ultimate goal, but even being able to make sustainable colonies on Mars would be a HUGE step forward. (And the main thing preventing manned space travel now is that our current engines are far to too inefficient to make such trips feasible.)
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** Brock had a Deep-Throat-like reputation of being an idealist on a grass-root level, which brings all the dirty stuff to light. Presumably it was arranged by Carlton so it would de-fang the rumors about his abuses by association with Brock just giving him an interview.
* Carlton Drake is an idiot. By locking Dora Skirth in a room with a symbiote and not paying attention to what happens next, he either loses his last available symbiote on a woman he can kill in a far more cost-efficient way(this is before he bonds with Riot, so he's got no way of knowing he can acquire more) or if he's really unlucky, he accidently locks a hungry symbiote in a room with a perfect match, ending up with another pissed-off symbiote rampaging around his labs, tearing his security to pieces and eating the remains. It boggles the mind how a man this thick ever managed to build a billion-dollar industry.

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** Brock had a Deep-Throat-like reputation of being an idealist on a grass-root level, which brings all the dirty stuff to light. Presumably it was arranged by Carlton so it would de-fang the rumors about his abuses by association with Brock just giving him an interview.
* Carlton Drake is an idiot. By locking Dora Skirth in a room with a symbiote and not paying attention to what happens next, he either loses his last available symbiote on a woman he can kill in a far more cost-efficient way(this is before he bonds with Riot, so he's got no way of knowing he can acquire more) or if he's really unlucky, he accidently locks a hungry symbiote in a room with a perfect match, ending up with another pissed-off symbiote rampaging around his labs, tearing his security to pieces and eating the remains. It boggles the mind how a man this thick ever managed to build a billion-dollar industry.
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** Brock had a Deep-Throat-like reputation of being an idealist on a grass-root level, which brings all the dirty stuff to light. Presumably it was arranged by Carlton so it would de-fang the rumors about his abuses by association with Brock just giving him an interview.

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** Brock had a Deep-Throat-like reputation of being an idealist on a grass-root level, which brings all the dirty stuff to light. Presumably it was arranged by Carlton so it would de-fang the rumors about his abuses by association with Brock just giving him an interview.interview.
* Carlton Drake is an idiot. By locking Dora Skirth in a room with a symbiote and not paying attention to what happens next, he either loses his last available symbiote on a woman he can kill in a far more cost-efficient way(this is before he bonds with Riot, so he's got no way of knowing he can acquire more) or if he's really unlucky, he accidently locks a hungry symbiote in a room with a perfect match, ending up with another pissed-off symbiote rampaging around his labs, tearing his security to pieces and eating the remains. It boggles the mind how a man this thick ever managed to build a billion-dollar industry.
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** Brock had deep-throat like reputation of idealist on grass-root level, that brings out all the dirty stuff to light. Presumably it was arranged by Carlton so it would de-fang the rumors about his abuses by association with Brock just giving him an interview.

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** Brock had deep-throat like a Deep-Throat-like reputation of being an idealist on a grass-root level, that which brings out all the dirty stuff to light. Presumably it was arranged by Carlton so it would de-fang the rumors about his abuses by association with Brock just giving him an interview.

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** The drone was on track to hit Eddie directly, which, given the drone’s explosive payload, probably would have been like getting hit with a rocket. By doing the stoppie, Venom turns a probably fatal impact into “just” riding through flames. Even then, it was only a brief exposure due to their speed.



* The drone was on track to hit Eddie directly, which, given the drone’s explosive payload, probably would have been like getting hit with a rocket. By doing the stoppie, Venom turns a probably fatal impact into “just” riding through flames. Even then, it was only a brief exposure due to their speed.
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* The drone was on track to hit Eddie directly, which, given the drone’s explosive payload, probably would have been like getting hit with a rocket. By doing the stoppie, Venom turns a probably fatal impact into “just” riding through flames. Even then, it was only a brief exposure due to their speed.
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** I assume that Riot found the old lady a relatively good host: she had no family or friends as far as we know and being an old lady, she's less suspicious (less than the astronaut and EMT at least).

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** I assume that Riot found the old lady a relatively good host: she had no family or friends as far as we know and being an old lady, she's far less suspicious conspicuous (less than the astronaut and EMT at least).least) and can easily blend into a crowd.
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** Even when Drake managed to find compatible hosts, he was not providing for the symbiote's dietary needs, so the symbiotes still burned out their hosts. A technician notes that they're giving the subjects "enough liquid nutrition to feed an elephant," but their internal organs are still degrading, because this nutrition is useless to the symbiote and it has to eat its own host to stay alive. Riot likely has far better ability to blend with incompatible hosts, given his other impressive abilities, and Venom found a ''perfect'' match with Eddie, enough to sustain him with less-than-ideal matches with a dog and (possibly) Ann.
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** Nothing ever says it's FTL. The comet the symbiotes were found on could be passing through the solar system on its way elsewhere, or the symbiotes live on it specifically because it allows them to migrate to new worlds and consume the populations. The original intent of the flight (before the comet with lifeforms was found on it) could have just been either testing the feasibility of a new, super-efficient long-range spaceship engine, or using that new engine to survey worlds within the solar system. Colonizing beyond the solar system may have been Drake's ultimate goal, but even being able to make sustainable colonies on Mars would be a HUGE step forward. (And the main thing preventing manned space travel now is that our current engines are far to inefficient to make such trips feasible.)
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** Possibly it didn't know where to go. All it initially had was a patch with the Life logo on it. It spent those six months doing detective work in order to go from "here's a Life corporation logo" to "oh, I need to go to this specific location if I want to get a ride into space"
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** It's possible that the Venom symbiote ''was'' protecting Eddie from the blue flames despite the pain to itself, and it was just short enough contact that the flames didn't cause much more than a little easily healed damage to the symbiote. Also recall that the Venom symbiote ''does'' apparently survive the explosion from the rocket at the end and can regenerate Eddie's wounds; it's possible that so long as there's a piece of the symbiote left it can regrow back to its normal size eventually. This tracks with the comics, where symbiotes are shown to be able to split off pieces of themselves to create new symbiotes, similar to how amoeba reproduce. In fact, that's originally what Riot ''was'' - an offspring of Venom's.

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* Brock asks why he’s being sent to interview Carlton instead of someone else, and I don’t recall there being a good explanation. Even if Brock didn’t want to turn the interview into a "gotcha" grill-session, his style is totally unsuited for a Diane Sawyer-style puff piece with a business magnate. Why on earth would his boss choose him?

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* Brock asks why he’s being sent to interview Carlton instead of someone else, and I don’t recall there being a good explanation. Even if Brock didn’t want to turn the interview into a "gotcha" grill-session, his style is totally unsuited for a Diane Sawyer-style puff piece with a business magnate. Why on earth would his boss choose him?him?
** Brock had deep-throat like reputation of idealist on grass-root level, that brings out all the dirty stuff to light. Presumably it was arranged by Carlton so it would de-fang the rumors about his abuses by association with Brock just giving him an interview.

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